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(originally posted by @blank666man on 2022-12-23 12:08:31)
livurz
Universe expanding is currently in question due to recent findings. F*ck yeah , Science! https://www.space.com/universe-expansion-could-be-a-mirage
MachineInterface
(Maths is not a language, and it's only "universal" in a very narrow sense)
SleepyHollowAppleTree
IknowWhoYouAre
Science does not give a FUCK if you believe
Minneapple23
Ironferrox
And let’s add to this, the 2020 election was not stolen; despite Trumps best efforts to. Trump was found guilty of sedition and Insurrection per a Colorado court and thus legally is barred from running for president in the state. Fetuses are not people. Trans rights are human rights. And advocating for human rights is not “being political” any more than supporting the status quo is.
ICannotSanctionURBuffoonery
And kick religion out of education. No religion in anything that perports to be a "school". Not just public schools. Allowing these brainwashed morons to opt their kids out of legitimate education, and dumping anti-science propaganda on them under the guise of "religious education" is cult indoctrination, and twisting the definition of education to encompass theist propaganda.
DrNick
imagine getting upset at a repost bot
CardeasIV
For real tho, if math is universal languange, why the fuck nobody can speak it
therealalansmithee
And Elvis and JFK are dead … along with Marilyn and Jim Morrison. And birds are real
tarataqa
You almost had me, mate. But birds are just CGI.
SleepingTide
I don't know, RHCP said: "space is the final frontier, but it's made in a Hollywood basement."
briham86
Yeah, but they also said "Give it away, give it away, give it away now" and I don't hold with socialism!
DJOldguy
Well, no evolution is not a "fact" it is still a theory. That it is the ONLY scientific theory that has withstood every challenge so far is a fair indicator it is factual, but even Darwin would acknowledge it is still only a theory. And as Arthur C Clarke said, "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
WeaponizedJerk
Comparing science to magic is doing it a disservice.
Almaadin
But chemtrails ARE a thing. If the chemicals you think are in them are condensed water vapor and jet engine exhaust. THOSE ARE CHEMICALS!
SillySnowFox
Trans people are people.
johnvictor
Wasn't there instances of the government actually using chem trails in the 50's for some insane scientific experiment thing that produced and uptick in cancer?
w3sentry
Many times there is a small hints of truth in "conspiracy" to something else, but it's not the government trying to control minds and it was not cloudseeding. In the late 40's and 50's the government did in fact experiment in Geoengineering a.k.a. "Terraforming" within the earth's atmosphere but the experiments where canceled as farmers in the southwest complained of extreme weather phenomenon. The plan was to use the plane delivered Geoengineering for war to control weather on the battlefield.
w3sentry
Before the experiments where conducted in the Southwest local farmers where given yellow flyers notifying the farmers effected of when and where the weather would change. I meet a local farmer that still has the original 50's flyers that was given to them by the military and an address to write for filing weather related damages during the experiments. It vaugly explains how its plane based, releasing gases and chemicals that are harmless to livestock and how it is different from cloud seeding.
w3sentry
Many years after the experiments where canceled the military took the lessons learned, adapted the techniques, equipment and concept of operations to instead move forward with the Agent Organge program in the Vietnam War for supply routes from Cambodia as a jungle defoliant. As time past the two projects Agent Organge and its forgotten ancestor project became military lore and picked up by uninformed civilians as "conspiracy" in the anti-military sentiment from the Vietnam War. Resulting in now.
LetMeSeeMyKids
What is 'star dust'? Oxygen atoms? Carbon atoms? Wow, how sensational. We are just star dust. Or is it stars are made up of human dust?
HeresYourSauce
No star is made up of any real amount of human dust, humans are nearly 100% star dust. Under current theories effectively no heavy elements formed in the big bang. Just Hydrogen and Helium. Everything denser was made through fission in a star.
LetMeSeeMyKids
Using that logic, a human is created by another human. All the atomic material was made through the biological process conducted by a human. Human is human dust?
briham86
Well, yeah, humans make more humans. Stellar fission creates the atoms of various elements, chemical and biological processes make the molecules, sexual reproduction produces the amalgamated DNA strand and initial cell, consumption provides additional molecules for growth and energy.
LetMeSeeMyKids
Assuming that matter cannot be created or destroyed, giving birth (the entire process from conception) is converting nutrients consumed by the mother into the matter making up the child. If all matter/energy always existed in one form or another, why do we choose star dust as the baseline/starting point. Other than to romanticize our being. If we are stardust then all matter (expect stars themselves, I guess) are categorized as stardust. Not so special anymore, huh? 😁
briham86
I don’t understand why you’re so proud about spotting obviously poetic language. No one is claiming we were directly created by stars. This is a really weird flex.
Sheldonian
I mean, stars have existed for way more time than humans, so it goes in that order, but hey maybe in a few billions of years there might be a star made up of human dust
grettah35
OK, but Jeffrey Epstein still didn't kill himself.
MidlifecrisisDad
I think my Maga brother disagrees with more than half of these statements.
Youhavinagiraffe
Just out of curiosity which ones would he agree with
MidlifecrisisDad
Evolution, stardust and science being real. Anything that is contradictory to his version of the bible.
maqp2
Well if the science is real to them, there's hope. The scientific method creates a base for logical thought. 'The Republican War on Science' by Chris Mooney might be a good read for them. "Why are my cult leaders trying to kill something I believe in?" Perhaps that creates enough cognitive dissonance to make them distance themselves from the MAGA cult.
MidlifecrisisDad
That's a great recommendation. It's too bad he claims to have a third grade reading level.
maqp2
Perhaps this slightly dumbed down version -- a lecture by the author could help them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhzf9bXm96U
oplekv2
Evolution is an observable phenomena. The Theory of Evolution is everything we know about it. Like there's the physical area we call Texas, then there's a map of Texas. Saying "evolution is just a theory, it hasn't been proven yet" is like saying "Texas is just a map. It hasn't been proven yet." It's kind of backwards - we wouldn't have the map if Texas didn't exist, even if the map is imperfect.
FistingWithJalapenoDoritoFingers
Recent evidence has come up that the universe might actually go through periods of expansion and contraction
MarkusAwesomesauce
This is the Big Crunch theory. It states that the universe goes through phases of expansion until it shrinks back down into a singularity only to "bang" again.
maqp2
This would contradict with the widely accepted notion that things are expanding at accelerating at increasing speed. A source could definitely be useful for such radical claim.
FistingWithJalapenoDoritoFingers
Unfortunately i dont have one, take what i said with a very large grain of salt because its just a rumor i heard
maqp2
Well it's not at least on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model and https://big">odel">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclic_model and https://bigthink.com/starts-with-a-bang/no-universe-before-big-bang/ is quite recent
kc2syk
Citation please?
kirmokum
chemtrails are real, they're toxic, and they're everywhere. generally we just call it "engine exhaust" though.
AgnosticPaladin
What those people call chemtrails, and what most of us see in the sky after a plane passed, are water vapor. Air is heated and compressed in the turbine engines, then it cools and decompresses leaving water mist.
AHundredBillionBottles
Thank you, yes. And times 100,000 flights/day, that high-altitude condensation is a powerful global-warming emission :/
kirmokum
yes. i am making a joke.
AgnosticPaladin
Well, you should talk with some "chemtrail" people. They're definitely not funny.
kirmokum
i have. they are the worst.
duffman3335
The 2020 election was NOT stolen.
briham86
But Trump and his cult did try.
TheGiantIdiotTeddyBear
These are all true, but if Math is considered a language, then I just have to say... square root of -16.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Math is the fundamental language. By virtue of describing reality, it contains all other languages (and everything else) within itself.
VioletCatastrophe
What? +-4i? I don't get the point/joke?
VInTheSkyWithElephants
4i (aka four eyes...calling them a nerd... that's what I think it the joke is anyway)
wishiwasafish
Invalid argument.
DrNick
yeah okay four eyes
ThisUserNameIsReallyLoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
So 9x-(2^e + 2dx) man.
oldguyexlurker
There is no man-shaped, omniscient, omnipotent, omni-beneficent being residing in the clouds, getting angry when you masturbate and making sure you send money to Joel Osteen.
midrealmknight
You’re probably right about that. It seems unlikely.
mfcrogue
Finland still isn't real though
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ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
That sign can't stop me because I can't read!
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zylokun
Epstein didn't kill himself
TwoNineSix
Look, all the not-subjective statements are true and sure, the scientific method is great and all but, man, this substance-less "science, fuck yeah!" kinda shit always makes me roll my eyes. It's so masturbatory.
maqp2
But it's also a way to show how many things would have to be BS at the same time. You don't have to go further than this thread to see there are people who believe only in some of this. Seeing the whole picture of pseudo science can still help some people recognize danger, before they get the chance to dive into each cash-grab roach motel of BS.
DigitalDecay
It also leaves out that there is also *bad* science - studies funded by third parties, researchers with their own biases, eminent authorities in fields who don't like being questioned and so on and so forth. Never mind that popular reporting may distort findings further. I really like science but I greatly dislike how some try to make it into the secular man's religion where it's always correct and provides easy answers.
TheSongofRiver
DrKonrad
For my child I'll have that second option over the first one, every time
TheZommie
wow, this devil fellow sounds like a stand up guy, just educating folks in his spare time
TheSongofRiver
I know right? And it sounds like he's doing it for free!
Kalmbach
He says that like he thinks it's a bad thing.
egoAristippos
Iycelium
Sticklebrickk
Yeah, psychology. Wouldn't want to do any thinking, now.
JorgeLourenco
Woot!!!
JohnnyLawlessEsq
I think we need to bring back Christian sectarian violence. Get Christians killing each other over abstruse questions of theology.
Ironferrox
Honestly I’d be down to rid Christianity of some heretics that won’t support Christ’s message to be kind to your fellow man. In against going out and trying to change another’s religion but I’m all down for purging the church of the poison that is greedy charlatans preaching a gospel of hate. Bring back the preaching of the beatitudes and the great commandment. DEUS VULT!
RIxspacexCK
Then all those priests, who have been taught Jesus, who have molested children must have studied what part of Jesus's teachings?
maqp2
They've studied all the relevant parts that can be used to shame anyone going after them. Also: "You tell I raped that altar boy and I'll reveal every sin you confessed me over the past three decades. Yes, I've kept a record of them."
TheSongofRiver
They dont study Jesus' teaching. Study might lead to knowledge, and knowledge is a fast track to accepting science, and that is the devil's tool.
BluePlanet514
Witchcraft you say? Sign me up!!
Bubblewrapiscool
Probably just means chemistry
SleepyHollowAppleTree
Detacheddavid
What does this even mean? Unborn babies don't have equal rights? Women/black/LGTB? are like Satan? Only bad girls go to heaven?
Dondarian
Who is this church rooting for here?
alcaray
My guess is the Republicans.
SleepyHollowAppleTree
Not the good guy.
3rdoption
I obey Jesus. I do everything he tells me. So far, he hasn't told me anything because he's fucking dead.
Couchwarrior1337
By that logic I'm still obeying God as well. Thankfully I'm not schizophrenic and don't have any sons or nearby hills with sacrificial altars on them so I should be in the clear.
NATA5
I do everything Jesus tells me to because he’s my boss. But I don’t do anything hector tells me because he ain’t my boss even though he acts like it. Pendejo
TheSongofRiver
I always thought they had to obey god and follow jesus.. but hey, we all know they dont do that either.
Deonan
OR imaginary?
maqp2
There's actual evidence that Jesus existed. He's mentioned in multiple writing of Jewish and Roman historians not later than 300..400 years after his lifetime. He had good ideas about how to treat the poor, and the rest is your basic mysticism turned into commercialized, organized, value extraction and population control cult.
SavageDrums
300 years is a long time.
MasterMookie
What you mention is not evidence.
gilliamv
sort of like a low res video of bigfoot. :)
MasterMookie
Well, not reliable evidence.
maqp2
You mean I should've provided sources, or that the existing sources are not reliable enough? The alternative is, there was a bunch of greedy people who decided to start their own religion, they came up with story about Jesus, tracked down historians, forced their story into all those independent records etc. Could of course be 400 years of stories, but given the secular nature of modern historians, why would they not be critical about quality of their sources?