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JACKTheHECK
Shoutout to the women who in her first 5 days, saw racism, secured and leaked evidence and then quit.
MrsGogol
Txernobog
Poor Pitbull and Julio Iglesias...
trippingthelightfantastic
Omni21
Not at all shocked. People of color rarely get a fair deal. Too many racists from the top down.
Jamesstin
Discrimination occurs the second someone has the means & desire to do so. This doesnt require being a part of the majority either.
ryzynforce
I bet he goes to church on sunday's too. So christian of him
CalladoBob
The religion that helped enslave and genocide millions? Yeah, so out of character.
macboorex
This is literally what "Critical Race Theory" is talking about. Normally, it's at least coded, but this ... well, it's honest.
DriverIRQnotlessOrEqual
Republicans: Nuh uh, CRT is just what I hate, even though I don’t know what it stands for
Mehtoes
Gaglactus
Fucker should be immediately disbarred
AmZero85
And governor meatball will instruct the legislature to make it legal and will arrest the leaker of the document by tomorrow.
TheOldSchoolisBack
Nah, the prosecutor is a Democrat, so the Republicans will have a field day with it.
DrKenAdams
The "and/OR" makes this even worse
Idownvotegunnuts
Florida really is a grade A shithouse.
Rodltwo
GravyEducation
ilovedogknots
Seems like a easy lawsuit when they’ve put the racist policy in writing
Moolicious
Requires someone to actually bring the lawsuit to court, which means until it was publicwlly reported everyone involved agreed with it
GloveFullaVaseline
There's been so many seemingly easy lawsuits that we are drowning in them the last, I dunno, 50 years now? Nothing. Fucking. Changes.
DukePhelan
'Target the state of Florida and fire when ready'
TurduckenMcNugget
turkeydonkey
sauce if you really want to get angry https://ourtallahassee.com/florida-prosecutors-racism-policy-leaked/
retrostone21
His last comment in the article is, "I don't know what their history is." But the document states extensive criminal history.... what's happening here?
HandoB4Javert
VitaminBeaPositive
The real point of the GOP is to be shitty, awful, garbage humans.
invisibulman
Hang on maybe this is out of conte... Oh shit, that's racist AF!
kodiak931155
In canada we literally have the opposite on the books. Native = mitigating circumstance. Im not sure im 100% on board with that but this here is almost comically bad.
spengler
Nah, I'm fine.
MasterMookie
That has to be illegal right?
OffTheGrid99
Who watches the watchmen?
MasterMookie
Right? Please tell me it's illegal. Right?
HsuDoNihm
"Federal laws prohibit discrimination based on a person's national origin, race, color, religion, disability, sex, and familial status."
HsuDoNihm
https://www.justice.gov/crt/federal-protections-against-national-origin-discrimination-1
MasterMookie
Good close down that Jefferson County office and check all the fucking cases he has been on. Make sure anyone involved lose their license to practice law. Except for the whistleblower.
MasterMookie
Oh and charge the living hell out of Jack Campbell. Bury him in charges and litigations. Jail here we go.
DoomSquirter
motherfuckers. the fact that they wrote it down for other ppl to view. they thought they were untouchable. teach them they are not. putas
putcleverusernamehere
They learned this from the previous president
DoomSquirter
tbh, I'm not sure trump knew how to spell. so let's include all his staff in that roundup as well.
aguacatedeldiablo
Hamberders will always make me laugh
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Well have they been touched? Seem pretty untouchable.
Bhargo
and nothing is going to happen. they will say its a joke or something, someone may get a slap on the wrist and republicans will continue to insist that florida isn't full of racist white people
thereitis101
And yet, Latino voters have voted GOP in Florida and other places. Catholic and conservative.
TheOldSchoolisBack
This prosecutor is a democrat who has been elected to this position twice. Now he’s a perfect subject of a campaign ad for any Florida Republican.
StormofWyverns
I for one, am “totally shocked” that this is happening, and by totally shocked, I mean not at all. If you look at which category this falls under, it’s for “no valid driver’s license”, but not under “expired driver’s license”, ergo this is targeting people assuming they’re illegal immigrants, ergo: “Milk ‘em for all they’re worth boys, keep ‘em poor and they’ll have to keep working our farms and construction jobs for us”
SoulTakerWasSupposedToBeMyUsernameButSomebodyStoleIT
Whaaaat? American cops are racist pigs? Noooo that couldn't be
mrthewhitee
I think the shock I'd more that they wrote it down.
selkyselk
Technically, he's not a cop. Still part of the problem though. 👍
Heisanevilgenius
Not surprised at the racism. AM surprised that they specifically wrote down a policy advising cops to be racist
HenryLongfellowIII
Not for the cops, this is for prosecutors making a plea deal offer once the person has been charged. Florida cops would have their own unique racist policies.
Unclescam
Writing this stuff down is so amateur hour....it is FL though.
Soufange
More surprised they could write
mjmphd
It is essential to understand that Northern Florida is a vastly different place than Florida from Orlando farther south. The demographics are different and so is the history of racial injustice. If you want some interesting material, look up the Associated Press article from 2022 about how white supremacist law enforcement operates with seeming impunity in NF or take a stroll down memory lane by reading about the Hanging Tree in Monticello FL.
CalladoBob
Farther South you have the conservative stupid cubans voting republican because the Rs make a noise about hating Castro, while empowering shitheads like desatan
BradBehavior
I grew up in Monticello. I know.
BTanner13000
Yeah, people don't realize how big Florida is or how different it is. Most only know Orlando or Miami. And currently, the same imbalance of sparsely populated rural areas with way too much systemic political power that is plaguing the whole country is screwing up Florida as well.
BirdAndBearAndHareAndFish
I hate it here.
GloveFullaVaseline
The and/or really says it. Fuckers.
ThrockmortonTheSkateboarder
The first and last time I ever went to Florida was in 2014. I swore myself not to go back there. That state is a joke, and a cruel one at that.
Saker82
I also went there to visit the parents recently. I felt like I was in an amusement park from the moment I stepped off the plane. Not in the "sunshine and whimsy" way but more like everything was a facade, fake and engineered. I felt like if I took a wrong turn I'd see the mascot without their head on and smoking meth or downing Adderall with vodka and going on an anti-semitic rant. Did you get that feeling?
ThrockmortonTheSkateboarder
Oh my God, yes! What a perfect description. Miami in particular felt like an entire city wearing heavy makeup.
totolapse
I just marvel at the "and/or" which seems to mean that being Hispanic is equal to an extensive criminal history. Am I reading that right?
CalladoBob
Yup.
Rijtjeshuis
Me, reading this as a criminal lawyer...
CalladoBob
I hope all the defense attys in that jurisdiction file appeals on all convictions.
MasterMookie
Criminal lawyer and lawyer what's the difference? Ba-dum-tshhh
initialo
What's on the screen? A giant word doc that says "Close me and frown"?
Rijtjeshuis
It was from the Depp/Heard trial. A witness had just testified over zoom while driving and vaping (i.e., showing no respect for the proceedings). In the full video, I think she says something like "I've never seen that before" after she closes the laptop.
initialo
Oh, thanks! I kind of figured this was like that judge judy clip.
peabea27
Are you a lawyer who is also a criminal, or a lawyer who specializes in criminal defense?
TheN8
Doesn't being a lawyer automatically infer they're also a criminal? (/s)
softspokensatan
he can be both lets not pigeon hole lawyers.
malachilenomade
Is that what it's called now? Man, I just can't keep up with the ever changing slang.
PVS3
Let's see how much of this comment section assumes he's a republican and never checks. Dude is a solid (D)
CalladoBob
He talks, walks, and quacks like an R
pr3viso
As a Hispanic, the odd thing is that Caucasians are surprised.
Larktonguesinadicecup
I mean, we're surprised they wrote it down in clear language.
dghughes
Do you mean non-Hispanic Caucasians? Since Caucasians can be and also are Hispanic i.e. Spanish people living in Spain. They are Caucasian but of course ethnically Hispanic if you lump all Spanish cultures together; Castilian, Catalan, Galicians, even Basques.
pr3viso
Next time you fill a US census form, look for 'Galician', or 'Basque'. It's always amusing how someone outside a group attempts to lecture a member of the group.
dghughes
Are you not also lecturing to Caucasians? Generalizing of what all Caucasians supposedly believe. And besides what I said is accurate. And I'm not from or living the US I don't need to be to make an educated comment on the subject. Anyway try to relax and have a nice day.
pr3viso
It shows. The article is about what goes on in the US. The lawyer was shocked. Hispanics in the US are not. And yes, you're neither here nor Hispanic. And yes, I will relax and have a nice day, I just quit my job and taking early retirement today. Wish you could.
pr3viso
Don't get your panties in a bunch
Chickenmakesmetired
Yeah it's more that they were dumb enough to write it down.
StormofWyverns
They’ve gotta make sure they write it down for the new hires before they can make it the “quiet part”
CalladoBob
trump has freed the racists to act out in the open.
circlebreaker
TBH, I'm not so surprised that this policy is in place, I'm more shocked that they actually wrote it down, printed and posted it. Usually racists are kind of hush-hush about it until they think that someone else is racist too...
Applewhite5
Conservative imgurians do you have a justification for this?
METROlD
ABRAHAM LINCOLN FREED THE SLAVES
nasukkin
There is no justification for it. MLKJR taught us that those who fear their oppressors because of their strength are worse than the Klans members themselves. That applies today. If you live in Florida and aren't in the streets today rejecting these Christofascists because you fear them, then today you are standing with the Christofascists; period.
unluckyandbored
IDGAF about any bullshit justification they have. I'd rather they just STFU and GTFO
CalladoBob
And ESAD
RowanUnderwood
Conservative imgurians lol.
topbreak38
Soooo, you assume one political leader is THE complete representation of the whole. I'm conservative in the sense that I believe in a small government. Tell me, do you have a justification for your wrongful discrimination?
Applewhite5
The conservative movement has historically opposed every anti-discrimination law ever proposed. I should be asking YOU that question.
topbreak38
Again, I'm conservative in the sense that I think government should play less of a role in our daily lives. Making laws to discriminate against people is literally the opposite of that.
Applewhite5
What about laws to prevent discrimination against people?
littlefoxpounce
Lmao like you'll get an answer of any kind. They only know how to say what they are told to say
CocoPuppyFlyer
When we talk among ourselves,
all we get back are echos.
But when we talk with others of a different mind, we are made to think.
And it is in thinking that we learn, and in learning that we grow. Romeo LeBlanc, Governor General of Canada
We don't hear from a mix of voices in Imgur because some people judge others so harshly without even listening, lumping others into one group. Too much use of broad critical statements using all and every instead of some or many.
CalladoBob
Already had my 'think'. Concluded Naziism is bad. What do YOU have left to think about?
littlefoxpounce
This is perfect
MeetCameron
your sentiment is why most have abandoned imgur's comment section
WorthEveryPenny
Reality does that I suppose. Maybe once conservatives stop being such trash we can pretend politics is about taxes and regulations.
alwaysacleric
Nah
newsguycraigevans
They do get upset when they come up against people that won't listen to their lies
Horsenippleking
That’s good, maybe they can try seeing how much seawater they can drink instead. It would be very beneficial. For science and stuff.
Like2Fox
Good luck finding any
idplmalx
They're too busy goose stepping in beige outfits to comment...
DuckPlanetKing
Yes, we’re racists.
CalladoBob
We know
CalladoBob
IDGAF what their rationalization is. They should get the same Nuremberg trial as their dear leaders. And the same penalty. Not buying your bullshit excuses.
cobacalao
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Actual conservatives are nearly extinct, and Biden is basically the most conservative contender in the race. The two conservatives I know personally both vote straight Dem as the "least-worst choice". Point being, the answer is probably "No", both because this isn't actually a conservative position (fascism is radical, not conservative) and because real conservatives are pretty thin on the ground these days.
KingMCG
Well, he’s a Democrat according to state ballot records, so maybe ask the Liberals instead?
Nikolai5
It's not a sports team, do you understand what these political terms are? The democratic party of the US is centre-right in general, some of the individuals within it may be more right wing or more left wing, but in general it's not left. The republicans are far-right.
prosper020
Yeah… I’ve come to learn that US moderate is EU conservative, and US liberal is EU moderate, very roughly. It’s weird being an EU level liberal in the US. Wanting to make sure everyone can thrive is not an option on or ballots.
CorrugatedUrethra1995
Nah. I'll ask the conservatives. The fact he's a Democrat does nothing to change the fact he's a conservative.
poderous
We shouldn’t use this as an easy way to dismiss the issue, but as an opportunity to hold a bad actor accountable
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
Oh geez, way to pick on the guy.
dorklordsickus
Conservative doesnt equal racist republican but unfortunately there seems to be more more that are ok with that.
CalladoBob
It sure as hell fucking correlates.
CplCarrot
A what?
Quesadildos
Hunter Biden's Laptop
Einstein9073
Racist that run that office chose to use Hispanic as a euphemism for illegal immigrant. Illegal immigrants without a license get that penalty, and they would have us believe that that policy was not applied to legal but unlicensed Hispanic drivers
MiniDitka5
@Applewhite5 Any time you see racism, you think 'conservatives'. Despite how they actually align politically/socially, because you don't take the time to learn that. Your prejudice is tainting your perception of the world. You may be spreading false information because you are assuming an individuals political beliefs based on their behavior. In the end, the only thing that matters is that racism shouldn't be tolerated from anybody.
SuperSaiyanYamcha
The Conservative party in America actively campaigns with self avowed Nazis, KKK members and other white nationalist movements. How many of those groups do Liberals call upon for support? I want SPECIFIC EXAMPLES, not any of your “bbbbbut BOtH sIDeS ArE BaaaAaaaad!” talking points bleated out by you sheeple.
Froggie243
Also- if your beliefs and your behavior aren't in alignment, guess whose responsibility that is to fix? Yours! Don't make everyone else fix your cognitive dissonance for you.
Froggie243
I mean that's what yall overwhelmingly vote for so yeah. You earned the label yourselves.
MiniDitka5
"Yall" who? Are you assuming I'm a conservative? I have never voted conservative/republican. I just have the ability to control my emotions. You spread false information but it's OK because the other side is a bunch of assholes? This type of shit fuels their 'fake news' rhetoric. There's plenty of real stories about actual conservatives being racist, so why spread this one and not the others?
DerkatBaron
Lol. This place is an echo chamber, you're not going to get different opinions
Applewhite5
And yet here you are
KidneyBeene
Your ignorance and bias is showing.
Applewhite5
Turn your monitor on
beezzarro
And you thought you'd whip your out for a measuring contest?
putcleverusernamehere
LOL ya OK
TronLives
I am possibly the last conservative imgurian left. However there is NO justifying this nonsense. I hate the politics of my state, Florida, and will never vote for DeSantis again. I feel dirty for having voted for him once and can't stand the fact he's turned into baby Trump. While I'm still a registered 'R', I don't see myself voting that way again. Trump has turned the party towards the hateful, knuckle-dragging hard right and it's disgusting. The drag bans are disgraceful :(
UpvoteTotem
I am surprised you still swing that way, considering the Imgur political content
Valaar
How can you be conservative if you're left. That doesn't make any sense, am I right?
TheOldSchoolisBack
CalladoBob
Hate to tell you this, but that was the plan since Nixon's "Southern Strategy", which led to Reagan, which led to the Bushes, and now trump/desantis. You won't like this, but you should have known that. Everyone else did. It's too late to play stupid now. If you were sincere you would work to make up for it. Walk door to door for Democratic candidates, cut off people still in the cult - you know, the hard stuff that would show you meant it.
Revicus
I've got family members in similar straits to yourself. I hope you're able to get your party back on track. I may disagree but I don't think you're evil.
CalladoBob
He's evil. So are your scumbag relatives.
Revicus
My relatives have not voted Republican in a very long time specifically because of how inexcusably, rampantly evil the party has gotten. I have a distinct hunch that doesn't matter to you.
Fauxcused
You need to do as I did and realize that the party you were in no longer exists. It is more than Trump. It has been taken over by bigots and white supremacists. I switched party affiliation also here in Florida to Democrat. The part I voted for most of my life has been corrupted, I think without hope for redemption. The old GOP is gone. Doesn't exist anymore.
CalladoBob
Of course it does. It's been low-key racist and misogynist and homophobic the whole time. trump just made it ok to acknowledge it out loud. You were a part of it. I blame YOU.
Fauxcused
OK, sure. *Rolls eyes in reformed Democrat*
Bignholy
Ignore them. While the GOP has always been a horror show, they were *much* better at hiding it pre-Bush II. Better that you realized and changed than refused to change out of stubborn pride as so many have, and I appreciate you for it.
RowanUnderwood
I am also a fiscal conservative. Except I want to save money by cutting the military / endless war / mass incarceration budget down to as near zero as possible. Social programs, education, and healthcare ARE fiscally conservative because they save money over the long haul. There is no party that represents this position however, so that makes me a democrat by process of elimination.
Richter12x2
That's pretty much the boat I'm in. I have some conservative views, and some liberal views, but most of what the Republicans stand for I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I supported them.
blackcat360
Same boat. Sadly democrats don’t seem any better. They all talk a lot but nothing changes. They all make 100k a year and become multimillionaires. Assuming they are not already wealthy or generational politicians.
ICheckUsernameAndSuch
Well they're not trying to erase and exterminate queer folks. That is so much better that I don't have words for it.
limbodog
Welcome to my world. I left the party after they nominated George W. Bush. I couldn't imagine them pulling out of that nosedive. And they didn't.
Thornaxe
W at least understood that republicans were gonna have to reach out to non white voters in order to stay competitive. And wanted/tried to do it. Although 20 years later republicans have proven it was unnecessary. Just ramp up voter suppression and say racist shit out loud.
Beezlebubble
DeSantis has always been a POS - you don't get a pass from me. You should feel dirty for a lot of what you've voted for. I respect owning your mistakes but too much damage irreparable has been done, and lives have been lost and ruined from people JUST NOW realizing their mistakes
GloveFullaVaseline
Good on ya. Conservative used to mean something about how taxes were spent, how government should be minimized... But that shit is over. Small government is exactly what we have, because they don't do shit for us. Privatizing healthcare, pharma... Plus all this gun and abortion and trans horseshit they are getting away with. Ugh. Conservative now is used by many to hide behind for their fascist Christo dicto bullshit. Enough.
wadatahmydamie
Coincidentally, the people conservatives have chosen to represent their beliefs in office over the last sixty years have also made it their life’s work to strip minorities of their basic rights. The only difference between Trump and any other Republican is that he said the quiet part loud.
PectorialMuscles
That's not a coincidence, don't present it as one.
Kommadore
Ding ding ding
ReverseSyzygy
voting-in the legislature (directly or via ballot down-voting ) allows for that behavior
MikeRInternetTraveler
As an ex-Rep myself (went ind around 2010 when I saw where the ‘Tea Party’ pricks were taking the party, and the switched to Dem because of Trump), what’s keeping you with the party at all?
Richter12x2
I'm going to go with a combination of social pressure and unwillingness to admit they were wrong.
engineeringwombocombo
The secret third option: register R so you arent "accidentally" purged from voter rolls or rounded up and put in "detention facilities" until you see "the error of your way of thinking" by being a registered Democrat.
CalladoBob
What, reagan and the bushs' scumbaggery wasn't a dealbreaker for ya?
MikeRInternetTraveler
I turned 18 under W. I didn’t know anything yet.
mikeatike
You don't sound very conservative.
idrinkcheapbeer
he fucking voted for florida hitler. it was no secret this guy was a fucking fascist scumbag. he didnt care and voted for him anyway. this guy is an asshole and everything thats wrong with this country. NOW he wants to be all "whoops"?? too fucking little, too fucking late. I despise scum that vote for bullshit like this and I give zero fucks if they admit they were wrong. they should have known better in the first fucking place. you dont get to destroy the country and then say "my bad".
mikeatike
Yeah, it's like my dad. Strict republican for decades yet Jan 6 was the final straw. Yet he still bitches about Biden "ruining the economy", which is so absurd I don't even know how to start.
CalladoBob
Exactly.
TacosAreDelicious
idrinkcheapbeer
No way. desantis has always been scum and this guy proudly voted for him.
idrinkcheapbeer
Sorry. You don't get a pass. you VOTED for him. (that's what "never vote for desantis AGAIN means, right?) You enabled this. Period. You don't get to just say "whoopsie" and get absolved for your embrace of a monster. It was completely obvious what this guy was, way before even running for office. I suppose it's admirable to want to change but that doesn't undo the decades of damage you have enabled.
Glitterfartjuice
Yep. At no point in DeSantis' political career was he not an obviously fascist wannabe dictator. This guy was cool with it until DeSantis took the fascisty stuff a little too far.
CalladoBob
It's been this way since Nixon and the '60s. They were "good germans" and just want to play stupid now.
idrinkcheapbeer
It's absolutely sickening. This guy actively votes for desantis, says "maybe I made a mistake" and is fucking heralded. he's got almost 400 fucking upvotes. Probably more since I cant be the only one who downvoted this piece of pure fucking filth. The reason this country is in the fucking toilet? its EXACTLY because of clowns like this and the people who easily forgive someone for voting for the destruction of the country. Fuck him. worthless piece of shit.
Glitterfartjuice
Fuck you for ever voting for DeSantis in the first place
CalladoBob
And Nixon, and Reagan, and Bushes, and trump, and deShitis.
HaveANiceFace
Lol
idrinkcheapbeer
You find the embrace of a monster humorous? No amount of personal realization can make up for the fact that this idiot voted for that scumbag in the first place.
HaveANiceFace
You misunderstood. I agree. The wording made me laugh. The bluntness, crisp and to the point. Simple but well said. Fuck desantis and anyone who voted for him.
Glitterfartjuice
What's funny?
HaveANiceFace
I just like the way it was said. Made me laugh out loud. Fuck desantis and anyone who voted for him.
IfOnlyICouldUseMyPowersForGood
People here saying change your registration. Don't. Rather, consider keeping your affiliation and vote your conscience in the primaries to choose a better candidate, as well as throwing off any gerrymandering plans just a little. Have your friends do the same, and pass it on. Throw off their predictions by adding extra uncertainty into their accounting while you still look like an "R" on paper.
TronLives
This... I am going to vote for the most moderate Republican that I can in every primary. I will never support election deniers or the hard right. I have also been encouraging my family and friends to turn off Fox news on occasion and start considering more moderate or independent candidates. I used to be hooked on conservative talk radio so I know it's a hard habit to break, but if I managed to do it I'm hoping some of my family can too.
BikiniSamuraiBun
A small European question, if I may. Can you be registered R but ultimately vote D after primaries? (Once the respective selected candidates are facing each other). It would seem logical to me but there are sometimes odd laws...
IfOnlyICouldUseMyPowersForGood
Yes, you absolutely can. You can be registered as a Republican and then vote however you'd like. In many states, registering as a certain party gives you the ability to vote to choose the final party candidate in the primary election, but obligates you to nothing.
kittyfajitas
Yes, you can vote however you like regardless of your previous votes. Your vote is confidential. At least in Texas, voting in the primary is what registers you with a party, so you in theory can switch parties every voting cycle if you so choose.
squillis
Same. I think myself a moral conservative, political liberal. You have the right to do it even if it's wrong. Conservatives trying to say they're the party of freedom because they try and remove corporate regulations while simultaneously removing human freedoms is among the most disgusting things they've done.
BTanner13000
Switch to Independent or Non-Affiliated. You will feel so much better about yourself.
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PrincessWendyB
A fkg Democrat? He is a DINO (Dem in name only)
Kragevalgt
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but down here they'll run as a Dem to lock up the ballot. Would not bet on him being actually Dem.
rbudrick
This.
johneventually1
The ol DINO squad. Democrat in name only
IStoleALoafOfBread
That like David Clarke. He always ran as a Dem Sheriff, but left to be a republican talking head.
majorcovert
Like Joe Manchin?
DrewBerg
He said CONSERVATIVE imugrians. Not republican imugrians. You're confusing ideology with party. Take Joe Manchin for example, on paper he's a Democrat, but his ideology is conservative and often acts as a foil to his own party.
AllGloryToTheDarkLord
Democrat and Republican are parties. They arent the same as Progressive and Conservative, which are ideologies. The Democrat party includes progressives to conservatives, while republicans include Conservatives to Fascists.
Jabokoe
Yeah like Americans speaking to Americans can label however they want, just gotta understand that to outsiders looking in...
Jabokoe
the party with conservative fiscal policy and corporate pandering are called democrats. The party with the nazis is called conservatives.
armagetz
Wait. Hard stop. Democrats are all in on outcomes, all other considerations secondary. Conservative fiscal policy? Their stance to a failure of a program to reach a desired outcome is never “well, heart was in the right place but maybe see should try to tackle it in a different way,” it’s “I need to throw more money at it.”
Chronomechanist
I agree with you 90%, except that that's not a conservative policy. It's a racist one. I think a a better point would be that Dems have good people and cunts, and the right has good people and cunts. The ratios are just shifted pretty heavily in favour of cunts on the right, I think.
JohnWickdidnothingwrong
Well said.
CorrugatedUrethra1995
The idea that a Democrat can't be a conservative is proof that political party brainwashing runs deep.
Chickenmakesmetired
That or a lack of understanding for political terms.
poderous
I’m not disagreeing, but ppl need to realize there’s bad actors in both parties
newsguycraigevans
MyNameIsJesusAndIStealHubcapsFromCars
yes but it's half of one party and 99% of the other
Tak231
Note: there was no mention of party in the question. They asked "conservatives" not "Republicans"
MorrighanWolf
No, people need to stop saying that whenever someone points out nazism.
mymustachecallstheshots
So is krysten sinema, whats your point? There are conservative democrats, and fake ass democrats. Political party affiliation doesnt mean shit anymore.
goatswhostareatmen
i'm a dirty centrist (on imgur at least) and i just wonder why tf you'd ask that... as if conservative means pro racism. if you want to build bridges there's a possibility since a lot of conservative people are not racist btw. comments like this don't help tho.
OffTheGrid99
Being a conservative doesn’t mean you’re a racist. But it does mean you’re ok with others being racist. So it’s not the flex you think it is.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Conservatives *are* pro racism. Do you think liberals wanted to keep segregation? What the hell?
beezzarro
It's because racism and xenophobia are natural offshoots of comservatism
GloriousPirateBeard
Centrist are what GQPers call themselves when they know their views are terrible and don't want other people to know they hold them
goatswhostareatmen
are GQPers the Qanon people? I can assure you i never had anything to do with that.
Applewhite5
"as if conservative means pro racism" lmao. Buddy, you're gonna be shocked when you find out who the biggest racists in history have always been.
donpat
Nah.. conservatives are garbage people. They are either actively racists or are A-OK with the racism and bigotry and hatred that their political parties embody while also trying to get whatever other shit done that they actively do support. Fuck them all. Vote them out of power and deplatform every single one of them
putcleverusernamehere
100%. "I'm not a racist, but I vote for the party proposing/enacting racist laws". If you're a Republican (or "fiscal conservative", "centrist" or whatever seemingly prettier sounding name you want to call it), and you actually give a shit about where we're headed, ask a German to explain hate speech and fascism to you
newsguycraigevans
Yup. +1 just for being correct
Horsenippleking
Why build bridges with worthless morons that want the country to regress and never move forward? They are worthless labor.
putcleverusernamehere
"Meet us in the middle" Fuck that. We've seen Republican laws and proposals, not one of them is good for humanity
Badprenup
If you try and build a bridge to someone that hates you, they'll thank you for the bridge that allowed them to get close enough to make your life worse. Of course we're talking politics, so they'll like take credit for building the bridge too
YouWonTheGam3
I'm going to be polite. Reasonable conservatives in the US are essentially non-existent at this point, as those with ethics and morals have left. Staunch categorization is too restrictive. This isn't so much left v center v right, as it's GOP v Dem now since there's really only viable red vs blue parties. Can't bridge with "stop the steal", build a wall, pedophilia, racist policies, excessive gaslighting with lies, fascist ideologies, corporate underhanded stealing, and anti-individual rights.
goatswhostareatmen
thanks for the response, as you might have guessed, i'm not from the us. it's clear that you don't want a bridge to MTG but are there really no old fashioned conservatives in the us that don't like trump etc? no politically homeless and former rightwingers that are looking for a new home? and where do you see us society go from here?
YouWonTheGam3
The old fashioned decent conservatives still exist but are rare. Because of the 2 party system, they either get sucked into the propaganda machine eventually, or their humanity drives them to Dems (left in the US). The US is being slowly taken over through immoral legal and illegal means. I'm worried and I'm not sure. Our abusive healthcare system, abuse of healthcare staff, inflation, and corporate manipulation is embedded and entrenched into our culture and made political by the "right".
SarcasmTortoise
Not really. They've either been driven out of politics by 'true conservatives' or they're so concerned with 'stopping Biden from ruining everything' that they will make a literal deal with the devil. They don't care what the republican party does as long as they win.
YouWonTheGam3
Would you build a literal bridge or community library with Trump, Marjorie Greene, McConnell, and Palin who only serve their self interests and label these infrastructure, and social programs and individual rights as "socialism", or their Democrat counterparts? I'd hazard to say you are a good person and will make the loving choice. What we don't like to admit is two party tribalism doesn't work and we do it anyway. There's literal Nazis ruling GOP. We can't sympathize, nor give into genocide.
goatswhostareatmen
it's foreign to me. we have a multi partiy system and 7 presidents from left to right who can only make decisions together and are not allowed to state their personal opinion about it publicly.
YouWonTheGam3
Sounds like a better system. I understand it may have different difficulties quite unlike the US.
YouWonTheGam3
I understand. America is having a crisis with 'right wing' Christian ultra-nationalists, whom are almost entirely homophobic, racist, and sexist. American news tend to be propaganda lite, but right wing news 'Fox' and 'Infowars' is literal propaganda, lies, and quite simply... Evil. Like evil evil. I'm not exaggerating. They want to overthrow the government. Literal Nazi genocide and pro-slavery evil. That's why people were so aggressive. I suppose they assumed you were American.
putcleverusernamehere
Spin it how you like, it's pretty simple. If you vote for the fascist, racist, misogynist, homophobic party, you're a fascist, racist, misogynist homophobic. Show us a single one of the recent racist, fascist, misogynistic homophobic laws or bills passed or proposed in this country that was supported by the Democratic party. We'll wait
SuperSaiyanYamcha
“BUt mAh BOtH siDeS!!!!” @goatswhostareatmen
putcleverusernamehere
Yep. "I'm voting to destroy the country, eliminate all social services paid for by taxpayers and instead give the money to billionaires and trillion dollar corporations, marginalize everyone who isn't like me, and you should extend an olive branch, otherwise I might vote the way I've always voted."