It would be silly to expect af pedophile or his pimp to suddenly do the right thing. They have long ago forgotten what doing the right thing even looks like.
There are many millions of unhappy Americans, huge numbers, and currently most of them are living relatively comfortable lives but they fully understand what’s going on and the dangers they run from not stopping all this, unlike the people of Romania who were at risk of arrest and death from the minions of Nicolae Ceaușescu for 30 years but whose people rose up and, let’s say, got rid of him and his security apparatus on Christmas Day ‘89. Do something.
Absolutely astounding people called this move Months ago and it's still going to go ahead and convince the base. Trump raped children, "Because when you're Famous they just let you do it."
50/50 on if those Democrats actually did anything or if it's just a political hit list for Trump.
I'm betting on the latter and that that becomes really obvious when it's found that some if not most of the Democrats have rock solid alibis for their supposed deeds.
She'll never get out of that cell. She'll "kill herself" in the cell as soon as she's said everything they want her to because there's absolutely no way in hell they let her walk free knowing the actual truth.
Oh, there are going to be so many Democrats on that list. Many of them will be edited in to replace Republicans since they will have total control over what gets released.
It works out perfectly because they'll get to remove some Democrats from office, which will likely be replaced by Republicans, since they'll be a backlash against the entire Democratic Party. Plus, they can release the names of the billionaires on it that aren't 100% all of board with him while keeping the rest in line.
Let me clarify for you: We're not mad that dems will be listed and prosecuted- pedos can get fucked 10 ways to sunday and back again- we're mad that a lot of INNOCENT dems will be listed as a method for Trump to remove them, further his agenda, and take even more power in the government- by way threatening/bribing a known human trafficker to lie on his behalf.
We're mad about the very blatant and obvious "lie for me and I'll free you" way a very well-known pedo-in-power is able to abuse his position of power to escape prosecution by threatening of the very people who enabled his abuses. To say nothing of the hundreds of others he's protecting. We will never be able to trust ANY list they come out with because the quid-pro-quo and character history of those involved are SO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that 80s ANIME villans are going "come ON man."
I thought I was clear I'm meant "perfectly for them". Anyway, let's be honest, it's likely ONLY the names of Democrats and the elitists that are currently a thorn in Trump's side will ever be made public. They aren't going to voluntarily reveal one of their own. There is no dissent allowed.
Idk man, based on what I have seen, people want the evidence, not her confession, this is something that I hope you're wrong about because up until now, everyone is so adamant about the evidence being released, especially when they all have said that there is a list.
I think you're right. Trump has already said it's all fake, malicious, rumour, made up, falsified, over and over. He's suing the WSJ. They haven't realigned as a result of that. Plus they hate Maxwell.
Yeah,, because those same people don't change their tone every week to fit the whims of the people that sign their paychecks. It also helps that the morons they're talking to have the memory span of goldfish. If Rump was even mildly intelligent, this is how the story would've been told in February before he even pardoned his traitor army.
Here's the thing: Since we don't know the extent of the evidence, they can basically pick and choose what to release and what to censor, and those tidbits will be more than enough to appease most of the masses.
He's literally President of the United States. He has all the power, and a cult of deluded followers. Dude is going to live to 90 at least, and never see the inside of a jail cell.
While we may not be leading armies, we have the power to look at being offered everything for compliance, for complicity, for collaborating... and say, simply... no.
Good pitch. Maybe they'll tell us Miss Maxwell had late stage cancer, that's why she finally gave them all those names, to clear hey conscience before she passes on. The convenient timing was nothing but a coincidence.
Were I in her shoes, I would place a full and complete set of documents with someone they couldn’t connect to me with the instructions that if anything happened to me they were to dump EVERYTHING onto the internet. Mail certified, unredacted copies to the AP, Reuters, NPR. When I die, EVERYTHING comes out.
Hard to set that up from inside the walls of a prison. Hard to set that up when the power dynamic is so imbalanced. They know everyone she talks to, everyone she meets, everyone she will ever meet.
Yeah, I would have had to set that up when they were nosing around my buddy Jeffrey, if not before. Some people have alleged that they were blackmailing certain people; were I doing that I’d certainly have elaborate security around my blackmail material.
I stopped giving these monsters the benefit of assumed competence years ago. I doubt she has anything hidden away or she'd have been pardoned already by big orange. The only value she has as a human being is in her testimony either for or against Trump. She'll bend the knee to the current admin. She has nothing else.
The list was always a concoction by Trump. His black book was released years ago and you could probably make a list of all the files they took when they arrested him bit there never was a "list" it was bullshit to whip up his cooked voter base.
Nobody expects (or should expect at least) a real list to already exist. We want FBI to do their job and release a list that they have come up with of people who harmed minors based on files they obtained.
Well, wouldn't you know it? Turns out there weren't any perpetrators! Yeah! We had enough victims and evidence to put Ghislaine and Epstein in prison, but that's all, nobody else did anything wrong!
I could be wrong cause im not from the US and therefor not as well versed in its political structure, but my understanding is that he can pardon her for federal not state crimes
Federal can be pardoned. The states cannot be compelled by the federal government. Most AGs in blue states will take their shot at her if they have anything local to charge on.
Guys you think that the law will be followed? The Governors or state legislative branch will be blackmailed, pressured, threatened by anyone in the government following Trump dictatorship orders. You guys are fokked unfortunately and will just sit in the couch looking at this once more in disbelief. This guy will do anything to avoid being charged as a pedo. Good luck.
How come you think that the information isn't available outside of trump's control? There are lots of people that have access to that information. We will see.
That’s not to furthernimplicate herself. Trump (allegedly according to Dutch media) has said ‘he hasn’t thought about pardoning her’. ‘Yet’. So yeah… still an option.
And who is friends with Maxwell's lawyer, so it's less prosecution vs defense and more of a collaboration to come up with the narrative that will make Daddy happy.
senseicombs
It would be silly to expect af pedophile or his pimp to suddenly do the right thing. They have long ago forgotten what doing the right thing even looks like.
richmondrosemead0
There are many millions of unhappy Americans, huge numbers, and currently most of them are living relatively comfortable lives but they fully understand what’s going on and the dangers they run from not stopping all this, unlike the people of Romania who were at risk of arrest and death from the minions of Nicolae Ceaușescu for 30 years but whose people rose up and, let’s say, got rid of him and his security apparatus on Christmas Day ‘89. Do something.
ParryLost
https://theonion.com/ghislaine-maxwell-cant-help-but-notice-interview-room-covered-in-plastic-sheeting/
ShiftyBat
Absolutely astounding people called this move Months ago and it's still going to go ahead and convince the base. Trump raped children, "Because when you're Famous they just let you do it."
SunAnvil
https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dzE2eHBwejhidW53Ymt2NDEwOWY1NmdqenppcTZ4MWVla3I0MWVpdiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Ib6HUhF07BzRcma1MD/200w.webp
90sLego
It's weird that they didn't think of doing this earlier
HitandRyan
Yeah, except we who aren't MAGA will all still know he raped kids on Epstein Island.
logicalcatbear
This is what I'm fully expecting. Her selective confession in exchange for a pardon. I hate what this country is...
NothingPrince
Fuck me she just got partial imunity
KillerTofu69
There's mutually assured pedo destruction. If one goes down, they take others down with them.
yoyopopo
Seems about right. Teflon's at it again.
EroticZombiePants
It's been long established he is totally and completely above all laws, so the only surprise is if this very thing DOESN'T happen.
ChristopherHallett
Where's the 5th picture showing the car wreck she dies in?
fancygiraph
For sure. We all know orange man is in there and guilty as sin. Now he can avoid it
Apothecarius
100%
EmperorCartagia
50/50 on if those Democrats actually did anything or if it's just a political hit list for Trump.
I'm betting on the latter and that that becomes really obvious when it's found that some if not most of the Democrats have rock solid alibis for their supposed deeds.
crweaver007
"Donald Trump? Never heard of him! He may have brought me some coffee a time or two."
psuedon
i want the recording of the DOJ sessions with her made public
Athol
She dies a few weeks/months after testifying of a 'heart attack'
CaptSparkleFingers
exactly!
stayingalive4life
Agree to our terms or you get “Epstein’d”
bolinotoyou
A normal independent media would already be regularly broadcasting that obvious point
ImHereToGetDownvotes
She'll never get out of that cell. She'll "kill herself" in the cell as soon as she's said everything they want her to because there's absolutely no way in hell they let her walk free knowing the actual truth.
ShimmerinStrider
But first let's see how this is all just Biden's fault. /s
EroticZombiePants
Oh, there are going to be so many Democrats on that list. Many of them will be edited in to replace Republicans since they will have total control over what gets released.
Fishy820
No Obama also lol
Selfinflictedwounds
Yeah I get the feeling that is pretty much exactly what they are going to do.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
Sounds about right. Maga's happy, case resolved. And shitstain lives on to brag another day.
themayorMcCheese
That fucking shit stain is going to slide yet again
unluckyandbored
Yup. Once again, he's going to get away with it--just like he always does. Teflon Don strikes again.
EroticZombiePants
It works out perfectly because they'll get to remove some Democrats from office, which will likely be replaced by Republicans, since they'll be a backlash against the entire Democratic Party. Plus, they can release the names of the billionaires on it that aren't 100% all of board with him while keeping the rest in line.
themayorMcCheese
Kinda sounds like you're cool with some people not getting prosecuted as long as some Democrats do..
Catheren
Let me clarify for you: We're not mad that dems will be listed and prosecuted- pedos can get fucked 10 ways to sunday and back again- we're mad that a lot of INNOCENT dems will be listed as a method for Trump to remove them, further his agenda, and take even more power in the government- by way threatening/bribing a known human trafficker to lie on his behalf.
Catheren
We're mad about the very blatant and obvious "lie for me and I'll free you" way a very well-known pedo-in-power is able to abuse his position of power to escape prosecution by threatening of the very people who enabled his abuses. To say nothing of the hundreds of others he's protecting. We will never be able to trust ANY list they come out with because the quid-pro-quo and character history of those involved are SO BLATANTLY OBVIOUS that 80s ANIME villans are going "come ON man."
EroticZombiePants
I thought I was clear I'm meant "perfectly for them". Anyway, let's be honest, it's likely ONLY the names of Democrats and the elitists that are currently a thorn in Trump's side will ever be made public. They aren't going to voluntarily reveal one of their own. There is no dissent allowed.
sektorz
Idk man, based on what I have seen, people want the evidence, not her confession, this is something that I hope you're wrong about because up until now, everyone is so adamant about the evidence being released, especially when they all have said that there is a list.
unluckyandbored
Nobody in the Republican Party gives a rat's fuck what the people want.
Telemapus
I think you're right. Trump has already said it's all fake, malicious, rumour, made up, falsified, over and over. He's suing the WSJ. They haven't realigned as a result of that. Plus they hate Maxwell.
backrideup9
Yeah,, because those same people don't change their tone every week to fit the whims of the people that sign their paychecks. It also helps that the morons they're talking to have the memory span of goldfish. If Rump was even mildly intelligent, this is how the story would've been told in February before he even pardoned his traitor army.
i2ocker89
All they gotta do is get a confession from her of a lost he approves of then make a list on Adobe real quick and call it an official document
EroticZombiePants
Here's the thing: Since we don't know the extent of the evidence, they can basically pick and choose what to release and what to censor, and those tidbits will be more than enough to appease most of the masses.
CommodusLeitdorf
In order to ensure the names are correct they need to be cross-checked with the list. So it wont be over.
HamAdvocate
Nah, man. They'll accept it. They can't live with the cognitive dissonance, so this will give them an easy out.
NothingPrince
Fuck me she just got partial imunity
LincLoud
DystopianCommandant
They haven't won yet.
IgnisAurumProbat
He's literally President of the United States. He has all the power, and a cult of deluded followers. Dude is going to live to 90 at least, and never see the inside of a jail cell.
DystopianCommandant
I would just remind you that the future isn't written, a lot of things can change
OwlXiozee
I told myself that back in 2016. Things keep changing alright. But not for the better.
DystopianCommandant
I don't know, I've seen a lot of things in my area get better over the last 10 years. I think you have to look for good things but they are there.
TheBloodyLady
WWKD- What Would Kerensky Do? Did he accept the attempted bribery of the usurper, and bend the knee? No.
DystopianCommandant
I wish we had someone like that who would stand up to trump that way.
TheBloodyLady
While we may not be leading armies, we have the power to look at being offered everything for compliance, for complicity, for collaborating... and say, simply... no.
Davedavedavedavedave
Last: she quietly dies a week later
aloharamada
Good pitch. Maybe they'll tell us Miss Maxwell had late stage cancer, that's why she finally gave them all those names, to clear hey conscience before she passes on. The convenient timing was nothing but a coincidence.
spinballwizardmtg
If she makes it through tonight
GCRust
More like her plane suffers a malfunction on her way home.
hsalonen3000
Suicide by two shots to the back of the head.
CommunCreator
Were I in her shoes, I would place a full and complete set of documents with someone they couldn’t connect to me with the instructions that if anything happened to me they were to dump EVERYTHING onto the internet. Mail certified, unredacted copies to the AP, Reuters, NPR. When I die, EVERYTHING comes out.
KileyBarker
Hard to set that up from inside the walls of a prison. Hard to set that up when the power dynamic is so imbalanced. They know everyone she talks to, everyone she meets, everyone she will ever meet.
Forensickle
Honestly, I'd be shocked if she hadn't set that up before she went in nd or isn't currently floating around
CommunCreator
Yeah, I would have had to set that up when they were nosing around my buddy Jeffrey, if not before. Some people have alleged that they were blackmailing certain people; were I doing that I’d certainly have elaborate security around my blackmail material.
KileyBarker
I stopped giving these monsters the benefit of assumed competence years ago. I doubt she has anything hidden away or she'd have been pardoned already by big orange. The only value she has as a human being is in her testimony either for or against Trump. She'll bend the knee to the current admin. She has nothing else.
CommunCreator
Maybe so, but there’s gotta be some reason she hasn’t yet “committed suicide”.
NotAPervert
Oh shit does anyone know where JD Vance is right now?
johnxbear
Sources say a furniture mall outlet
AnOceanOfStars
Not in Vatican, after the last time...
doodlydoofus
Sources say he was leaving the Hogan household yesterday.
burtgummersurvivalist
I saw something of his hometown being closed off while he visits....
jtxyz
Probably balls deep in a Barca lounger.
NotAPervert
He probably looks at a massage chair likes it’s the robot from Ex Machina
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
She also has to confirm that Epstein did not keep a list.
nunyabidnesstwats
The list was always a concoction by Trump. His black book was released years ago and you could probably make a list of all the files they took when they arrested him bit there never was a "list" it was bullshit to whip up his cooked voter base.
Flustercuck
Nobody expects (or should expect at least) a real list to already exist. We want FBI to do their job and release a list that they have come up with of people who harmed minors based on files they obtained.
nunyabidnesstwats
Definitely. But thats not happening lmao you know theyre cooking that shit to exclude all their billionaire scum friends right now.
ThisNameIsMaybeTaken
Well, wouldn't you know it? Turns out there weren't any perpetrators! Yeah! We had enough victims and evidence to put Ghislaine and Epstein in prison, but that's all, nobody else did anything wrong!
hyptosis
And that he was suicidal
backrideup9
That's a simple sentence to lie for her freedom.
Wearymicrobe
Except she is looking at state charges the second she gets out.
themigbro
Not if she gets pardoned from the little hands pedophile.
MrSquiggleTheManFromMars
I could be wrong cause im not from the US and therefor not as well versed in its political structure, but my understanding is that he can pardon her for federal not state crimes
ninjarabbit
Correct, the governor has the power to pardon state crimes
Wearymicrobe
Federal can be pardoned. The states cannot be compelled by the federal government. Most AGs in blue states will take their shot at her if they have anything local to charge on.
shadowdorothy
A few do if I remember correctly. Chances are she has an "accident", tho.
themigbro
Guys you think that the law will be followed? The Governors or state legislative branch will be blackmailed, pressured, threatened by anyone in the government following Trump dictatorship orders. You guys are fokked unfortunately and will just sit in the couch looking at this once more in disbelief. This guy will do anything to avoid being charged as a pedo. Good luck.
itsthevoiceman
second in command of the DOJ had a meeting with her recently, so this is the likely outcome.
Wikitoria
How come you think that the information isn't available outside of trump's control?
There are lots of people that have access to that information.
We will see.
spinballwizardmtg
In a civilized nation, this might be construed as "witness tampering" or "bribery" or possibly "extortion"
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
Just as well the US is a civilised nation.
Aw, crap.
RomanSnow
The only way any of this will be reliable is a complete release of the documents and list. Everyone would know there's no cherry picking.
Exyr
And tomorrow
FuzzyX
They have already done one day talking to her where they currently on day two. No idea what they are saying so it could be anything.
RearAdmiralObvious
They also fired the original AG that was in charge of her case and led to her successful prosecution.
NothingPrince
Fuck me she just got partial imunity
ToenailClippingsJar
That’s not to furthernimplicate herself. Trump (allegedly according to Dutch media) has said ‘he hasn’t thought about pardoning her’. ‘Yet’.
So yeah… still an option.
NothingPrince
Something about a pre interview which anything she said would not be used later in court
asucks
Not just second in command, Trump’s former personal, criminal attorney.
Leaveittojebus
And who is friends with Maxwell's lawyer, so it's less prosecution vs defense and more of a collaboration to come up with the narrative that will make Daddy happy.
cyno01
"Former".
WizBardBarian
"Trump didn't pay his bill, so he got him a govt paycheck so he wouldn't sue him."
wiltsjunk
100% this will happen
NothingPrince
Fuck me she just got partial imunity
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
What? Source?
TheyCallMeDrFeelGood
Here you go: https://abcnews.go.com/US/deputy-ag-blanche-set-meet-2nd-day-ghislaine/story?id=124064062
NothingPrince
Imgur sorry I should have copied the other OPs posting in