I may be European, but I do feel it's about time the American people start preparing for the civil war that will inevitably come. Trump is not likely to release his power, so the people will need their amendment now. Any sane person can see that. If he goes any more in Hitler's footprints he'll be wearing a little moustache any day now.
Every time I see headlines like this I remember my friend telling me how he "couldn't vote for Hillary because she's just as bad as Trump." Democrats chose this, not Republicans.
It's not like the entire world warned you about this cheeto, but noooooooo, you voted him president anyway (and I don't mean you personally but you collectively). Deal with it. We have to.
I pray almost nonstop that something happens to stop him. I don't care what it is. He and his ilk are the most vile scum to ever get in office. Our country is beyond ruined. It will be a VERY LONG TIME before the damage he has done can be fixed. If it can be.
It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build. - beastie boys.
Trump once openly said he wished his generals were more like Hitler's generals. I wonder if anyone bothered telling him that Hitler's generals tried to kill Hitler.
Unlike the USA the ROTW understands (America forgot) that interventionist foreign policy doesn't benefit the nation in need. So all we can do is watch the World's greatest superpower implode and be there to pick up the pieces when it's over. Don't worry, we'll be fine.
That’s the end of the story when the fascists lose. But right now, it’s fair to say the US military might be big enough to be quite effective where the nazis weren’t. It’s a lovely vision of a sad trump shooting his of face off… but it might be wishful thinking.
You’re playing into his hands. This is a distraction from the Epstein stuff because that hurts him with his base. DC is always federally administrated. This is bad but I think the correct response is more along the lines of “Fuck you, I’m not going to let you distract us. Show us the files”
Unfortunately, for DC this is legal. I don't agree with it, but it's legal. He'd have to declare martial law for anywhere else....and I would actively fight against that
The problem is, he isn't even being stopped when he does ILLEGAL things - not stopped, not held to account... His lesson is: Lie, cheat, steal, pretend you won and you win. He's old AF.... He has had a charmed life - he started by winning monopoly, and believes it is due to his genius and shrewd acumen... There is no punishment at this point that would be adequate for his crimes... But he needs to be stopped. His regime needs to be stopped...
Holocaust and apartheid were legal. Legality does not define what is right and can be fought or done. Not that americans have fought against and other of hundreds of illegal actions or literal concentration camps.
No strikes, No violence, No sabotage, No actual pressure on democrats, No nothing. 70 years of whining why germans did nothing, and then we get to witness this.
Soon this will be made legal elsewhere too and speaking ill of trump made illegal.
Goal is to normalize as much as they can in legal ways. Troops marching in streets. ICE dragging folks away. Etc. It's all legal. But, it signals that the rule of law is no longer moral. And once they normalize things they will push for more laws outlawing morality... try to feed homeless? arrested. They want people to fear every moment that someone can take them away, or that a protest can get broken up with armed troops rolling in.
1000%. It's legal here, so it's an opening to normalize federal control and military presence. Like any other outlandish thing Trump does; it's a "public beta" for whatever he's gonna do next month.
DC is under the Federal Government and it's ability to run itself has always been with this possibility. Again, don't agree, but he's the only one who ever ever exercised the option
It sort of was, and wasn't. Germany voted in a referendum to join the Presidency and Chancellorship with quite extreme powers - because it seemed efficient. They undoubtedly thought it meant quick fixes to an ailing economy. Hitler was given nigh dictatorial power by Germany's choice - which sort a makes his acts legal, but he did run with it further than they meant, to illegal lengths. It becomes a political and knotty question what was and wasn't illegal then. Germany (and U.S.A) fucked up.
Its always a con, he's sending in 800 guys to walk around and do nothing because there isn't a real problem. Theres probably a fund their taking some cash out of as well somehow.
It just takes one altercation for them to blast on the media that violence has "erupted". I mean, they're doing that anyways. There's still not any reason to bother with reasons at this point, but they still do it. Probably to protect themselves if the law becomes relevant again in the future.
So people really dont understand how the US works. He can take the capitol but it means nothing in the long run. We are not a nation that solely depends on one form of government to run things. This is why each state has its OWN government and set of laws. To truly try and take this entire country he would have to declare martial law on every state. Obviously the GOP states would fall in line but the democratic states wouldnt. In that scenario the national guard will defend their own states.
In this scenario all he is doing is taking control of a city. Barely. This is going to backfire drastically on him just like with everything else he does. They are going to run out of money. See how loyal those cops are once they realize they arent being paid.
No, the trump regime step by step dismantles teh dmocratic institutions. And theye gut the officer corps by removing disloyalists. Then they take the red states. And then teh blue states have no national guard because it is run by trump. they have no FBI, ICE, or US Marshals bcause they work for trump. And even with them, they would have no chance against the US Army, USAF, US Navy. You are more than halfway to Chile under Pinochet. Without a true uprising with millions of ppl? Gone.
Not to burst tje bubble but, that's how germany worked and works too. Same shit is happening. And no. Laws won't help you. Only doing something, actively resisting is doing anything.
That's completely wrong and not the same thing. Germany was in the middle of a crushing depression after losing WW1. Their democratic government was in shambles with no leadership.
Yes rich people.. devastated working class by economic pressure and unending wars and industrial revolution. Lose the industrial and put in digital.. and please try to open your eyes to the crushing depression the USA is in right now. So many homeless people. The American dream is a dead man walking. Social system or health care is a joke. Half dead people don't want to go into hospitals because it would cripple their families financially. Old people need to work till they drop.
Then describe the stable and strong leadership in the USA and try to show me the not depressed economy of the last 10years in the USA.. oh and the peace period it had. Show me. Tell me like I am 5 years old and not a 36 year old German with good school education including the rise and fall if the third reich.. yes yes tell me.. slowly. How the new "newspapers" created a new medium for spreading Propaganda and the right or left extreme thinking used it.. or how and why economy got scrambled.
Wait.. my original comment was an answer to a guy saying that the federal system will save the USA. Where is that comment? Wtf? This isn't even the same post! Imgur at it again..
And brw. You didn't even answer to my point. We do have a federal system. We have however have true democracy instead of the wierd system is the USA, granted. But no system can protect you from people ignoring it. Ignoring standing laws and act like they stand above. If you don't hold them accountable and resist dictators.. no system or economy growth will save you. Napolean, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Castor, Putin...... all diffrent circumstances but always the same behaviour pattern.
The world isn't underreacting, the world is just in a "we fucking told ya so ya idiots, but you just HAD to take the proven scamming rapist moron over the highly qualified black lady" state, this was entirely avoidable if people would listen to anything other than musk's hundreds of millions spent on targeted misinformation campaigns...
Haha, jokes on you and musk, hundreds of millions? Don't you get it? America was founded on racism and a caste system. The US literally had a whole war that both sides denied was about slavery. Muskovitz could have bought a new yacht with that money, and the states would have still never elected a qualified woman.
even after Musk's complaints about how many bots there were on twitter as he was going through the purchase I wonder how many bots and what their political leanings are now. oh, wait, right, millions and far right.
Ok, so I'm in nj...if the rest of the world would like to liberate us, since they have so many aggressive thoughts on the subject...maybe when you blast us, you give me a quick clean death...
The free world is screaming at you "kill the autocrat", and you're just standing around doing fuck all. The people under autocrats are gleeful and the autocrats are laughing cause now they will get more power.
Also what is the world gonna do at this point? Americans granted him total control of the biggest economy and the biggest military on the planet. And he's not afraid to use both of these for his own selfish goals.
So... what do you expect? World leaders risking 9000% tarriffs (or worse) for calling fascism fascism, when everyone already knows it, and half of Americans don't even think that's a bad thing?
The 2016 and 2024 elections prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the US is deeply, irrevocably misogynistic. We elected a RAPIST and a FELON over a woman.
Partly at least. He still has hundred of thousands supporters in the USA. Maybe millions even. They are a problem because they are loud on the internet. And we see police being on his side. That's another problem. The biggest problem is the loser in command Donald. Without him the cult vanishes.
Hahaha, exactly. No other country censors it's internet. The EU definitely isn't. China has never even heard of this internet thing. Powerful countries, run by billionaire businessmen, would never restrict or influence how or which kind of information you get. Never. For no reason. Absolutely none at all.
Sounding pretty defensive there. In Australia we don't get saturated with EU or Chinese social media. It's primarily all US. And the EU and China aren't threatening to increase tariffs if we don't deregulate our social media laws currently.
They're very much trying to invade your privacy more than censor the internet at the moment. The midget porn is still there, you will just need a government ID for it.
If you don't think the media is being censored, you might be part of the problem. If not at least heavily censored by the corporate overlords, not just in America but all over the world, "journalists" are becoming increasingly rare. It's much easier to kill or buy human beings than you want to admit.
I disagree with your statement, Project 2025 came out last year and none of the American's are actually going to read into it. It's definitely reached a point where Americans are waiting around to die now. Taking over DC, nobody died yet move on, other things he is doing actually have a body count to them.
It's pretty blatantly obvious at this point that the elections were stolen. They fucking openly admitted it. Don't blame the people who literally didn't elect this Nazi.
Hmm, no. A lot of the world is either blissfully ignorant or resigned. If "The World" clearly saw the parallels to Hitler's rise, things would be different.
Some see it, and some are even actively resistant. Most just go about their lives.
For example. The information about the Epstein case has been out there for years upon years. But when it hit the mainstream suddenly it was revelatory.
The thing is that no one wants to interfere with the society of another country because it is assumed to be voted for. If it was clear there was cheating involved or something like that way more leaders would try to help.
The fact that your comment has been downvoted by a bunch of Dems is pretty much a microcosm of the entire situation. MAGA unites through blind hatred, while the good people cancel each other over nuances that ultimately can't matter as much as you think they must.
The president can delegate their powers to the VP, and I feel like it's something presidents don't do nearly enough. Truman, Johnson, Bush Sr, and Gore all had more active roles than is typical for VPs and it paid off at election time - three of them won handily and Gore came down to technicalities despite being a pretty weak candidate overall.
Once again reminding everyone that the election was actually stolen. It was not free, it was not fair. Trump did not win the election. He did not win the popular vote. Trump did not win this last election. It is not good or just, to laugh and point fingers at a people who are being taken advantage of. Once again reminding everyone that you are doing your part to help fascism win, when you sow malcontent amongst your comrades.
As pointed out already, the pedophile, rapist piece of white trash won the popular vote. He did so by appealing to the roughly 30 percent of Americans that are openly racist and misogynistic, and by convincing a good enough portion of the other 30 percent that are closeted racists and misogynists that he was the best choice.
The world has been watching the USA intervene in conflicts it wasn't invited to but could profit from, lie about health risk in industries that were profitable to them, disregard proper education, healthcare, minority rights, encourage possession of guns, turn every environmental issue into a debate, privatize prisons and turn them to profit centers... Yes, we have sort of given up at this point.
So your answer is to take out your frustrations on a populace that is being taken advantage of, instead of the people who are doing the advantage-taking. Got it. Your character is showing, and it's not very humane or empathetic. Fascism is on the rise everywhere in the world, and if everyone pointed fingers and laughed at everyone else, we will have abandoned our humanity.
Even 30% is too much. Nevertheless, many countries are still talking cleverly, even though they already have right-wing populists with such values in their parliaments.
It's inconvenient to the feelings of a lot of people who have frustrations and nowhere to outlet them. Half the time the election is spoken about being rigged, people vehemently deny it, but then later on in the day, a post like this will get to the front page. I've come to the conclusion that the people denying anything went wrong with this election, are ignorant at best, and agents of the enemy at worst. It's inconvenient and uncomfortable to be told that things are worse than you thought.
The U.S is BAD at elections, that's apparent. BUT that is not the same as evidence of actual cheating (which there are some court cases being pursued regarding votes not evident in announced results). No one has proved that something like hacked machines was used to generate a win from an otherwise loss. Even though it's a pretty good bet, I think, that Rethuglicans would cheat if they could.
Oh you precious little child - don't ask people to research your point when they are disagreeing with you. They won't. You need to make good arguments when you speak up if you want to change anyone's mind. In past discussion I learned about court cases that seem to have a good prima facie argument regarding vote tampering - but that's also a limited matter to a small location - you just seem to be whining about losing. I don't pay you any-more mind than I did drumpfs whines he lost.
77 million of you voted for trump, 20 million didnt care enough. 74 million voted for Kamala. That's 97 million people we can point and laugh at as they wanted Fascism.
If you laugh at a people being taken advantage of, your character is showing and it's not impressive. I'm sorry you forgot your empathy, critical thinking cap, and humanity at the door.
Stop virtue signalling. Trump won the fucking popular vote, because a third of the US either wanted that, didn’t want a woman in the White House, or didn’t care enough to stop it. Stop debating bullshit points and go on the street FIGHT FOR YOUR FUCKING RIGHTS OR ACCEPT DEFEAT AND WITHER IN AN ICE DETENTION CAMP. FUCKING 1935 IS IN FULL EFFECT ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE… WHY ARE THE STREETS NOT BURNING???
I'm not virtue signaling. I'm sorry you assume much about strangers, and I'm sorry you don't seem to have a full grasp on the situation. Do you think all-capsing people on the same team as you, is worthwhile, helpful, or hopeful? Spreading divisiveness and malcontent is the work of authoritarians, so leave it to them, please. You cannot be civil in this discussion, so this is the last response you will get from me.
That's 97 million people you can remember have been indoctrinated, duped, or otherwise taken advantage of. That's 97 million chances to prove your empathy and humanity matter.
I hope you find empathy if you ever find yourself needing it. You are angry at the state of the world. So is almost everyone. Fascism is on the rise across the entire planet. What are you doing, to help? Yelling assumptions online at strangers you know nothing about. How very unhelpful. Your divisive & hateful attitude is a boon to oppressors across the globe. Be careful when and how you speak to others, because your character will show.
Yeah. Obviously the gerrymandering and mass voter disenfranchisement helped, but Pepe heard this obvious liar say that all his terrible business and failed policies were great & just decided it was true
xj4low
Those way, if it goes bad, he has someone else to blame. Don't forget that he will toss in that he barely knows her.
Cid2
As a normal citizen in Europe: and how tf am I supposed to react Jeff?
Aegan93
I may be European, but I do feel it's about time the American people start preparing for the civil war that will inevitably come. Trump is not likely to release his power, so the people will need their amendment now. Any sane person can see that. If he goes any more in Hitler's footprints he'll be wearing a little moustache any day now.
doctorbocker
It's still a fucking joke. 23 arrests, and now this 6-piece chicken mcnobody is in charge of the police? What a crock.
goldenman
this is literally what hitler did
JimSpectre
boopdetector
This is how dictators start
TheGrCheeseCat
Every time I see headlines like this I remember my friend telling me how he "couldn't vote for Hillary because she's just as bad as Trump." Democrats chose this, not Republicans.
adamsonpaul5772
What do you expect? He's only ever read one book.
ZIMISME
It's not like the entire world warned you about this cheeto, but noooooooo, you voted him president anyway (and I don't mean you personally but you collectively). Deal with it. We have to.
NostrilSnowboarder
I hear Alaskan hunters have incredible aim.
KremlinOfAges
JimSpectre
I pray almost nonstop that something happens to stop him. I don't care what it is. He and his ilk are the most vile scum to ever get in office. Our country is beyond ruined. It will be a VERY LONG TIME before the damage he has done can be fixed. If it can be.
It takes a second to wreck it. It takes time to build. - beastie boys.
meuchelpuffer
The world is no longer interested in you. You go fix it yourself.
Goronhead
Pam "I have the Epstein list on my desk" Bondi? Pam "oops the Epstein list doesn't exist" Bondi? That Pam Bondi?
PlainlyPuzzled
How about USA underreacting. The rest of the world is serious concerned, but if somebody has to take the MF out, it better be an american.
MissSiesta
This. They are pathetic compared to the French.
Kenbamazingbutprobablywontbe
Maga =cult of pedophiles
TheRealBrebby
It's what the gop has always been, group of pedophiles
Mcmaclassie
Trump once openly said he wished his generals were more like Hitler's generals. I wonder if anyone bothered telling him that Hitler's generals tried to kill Hitler.
HonestCommentFarmer
They did.
lightfoot2
never was on your side.
Darprice
It started with LA, and not enough pressure or military dissent happened. This is second time before being launched as a standing process.
Imapseudonym
And almost no one is still talking about or reporting on the Epstein files.
Stellaloga
Can we skip to the suicide bunker?
Malinut
Unlike the USA the ROTW understands (America forgot) that interventionist foreign policy doesn't benefit the nation in need. So all we can do is watch the World's greatest superpower implode and be there to pick up the pieces when it's over. Don't worry, we'll be fine.
KMakyra
woozle
TheRealSauceBoss
You assume he can actually read.
judithCat
Well I never did
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
*my mein Kampf. Otherwise it's implying he's got a struggle
woozle
DukeDarkwood
Not necessarily. It could still be referring to the book, by name, without indicating ownership at all.
So, anything you do in the presence of that book would be done "right in front of 'Mein Kampf'".
db629
trump too would hide in bunker, being a coward that he is
thelastmelt
That’s the end of the story when the fascists lose. But right now, it’s fair to say the US military might be big enough to be quite effective where the nazis weren’t. It’s a lovely vision of a sad trump shooting his of face off… but it might be wishful thinking.
RavantShearhart
I wish we could skip to the point where he suck-starts a Luger in a bunker though.
beeeeeeerkaaaaa
Maybe he'll off himself too.
IslaNublar
Secret service keeps him in an armored bunker in the WH as often as possible already.
IrishWhisky24
I hope he meets the same fate.
billstranger
The thing is, though, he's also too much of a coward to kill himself.
LerryV2
He did in fact hide in a bunker his first term
thedarkcanuck
Give him a reason to hide again
BearcatFan
You’re playing into his hands. This is a distraction from the Epstein stuff because that hurts him with his base. DC is always federally administrated. This is bad but I think the correct response is more along the lines of “Fuck you, I’m not going to let you distract us. Show us the files”
GravyEducation
We can be mad about two things.
11Weasel11
Or, it turns out, many things.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Yeah BUT he doesn't care that you're made about this. He cares a LOT when we shrug and go "neat, now show us the Epstein files"
Drakesfear
Unfortunately, for DC this is legal. I don't agree with it, but it's legal. He'd have to declare martial law for anywhere else....and I would actively fight against that
mintyfreshismygod
Except it's CONGRESS that has jurisdiction of DC. So once again the weak Congress has given its power to the great Cheeto in charge.
Boddokki
The problem is, he isn't even being stopped when he does ILLEGAL things - not stopped, not held to account... His lesson is: Lie, cheat, steal, pretend you won and you win. He's old AF.... He has had a charmed life - he started by winning monopoly, and believes it is due to his genius and shrewd acumen... There is no punishment at this point that would be adequate for his crimes... But he needs to be stopped. His regime needs to be stopped...
disposabledom
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YummyBubb1es
Its also perfectly legal for all the cops in the department to just, quit.
Like they could say "this is fucked up and horribly wrong, we're not going to do this".
Instead the cops are proudly going along with it.
IneverWantedToBeBorn
yeah yeah , legality Vs morality . everything the Nazis did once Hiti was in power was also legal
defrostedtauntaun
It's cute that you think he cares whether it's legal or not.
Drakesfear
I know he don't. But it makes it near impossible to fight.
Jhemilae
Holocaust and apartheid were legal. Legality does not define what is right and can be fought or done. Not that americans have fought against and other of hundreds of illegal actions or literal concentration camps.
No strikes, No violence, No sabotage, No actual pressure on democrats, No nothing. 70 years of whining why germans did nothing, and then we get to witness this.
Soon this will be made legal elsewhere too and speaking ill of trump made illegal.
4etherling
For 30 days.
SalmonTheWise
After 30 days he will do it again.
SisyphusRollin
Yeah, send 800 Guard members to walk around doing nothing. Its showmanship bullshit.
sadurdaynight
Goal is to normalize as much as they can in legal ways. Troops marching in streets. ICE dragging folks away. Etc. It's all legal. But, it signals that the rule of law is no longer moral. And once they normalize things they will push for more laws outlawing morality... try to feed homeless? arrested. They want people to fear every moment that someone can take them away, or that a protest can get broken up with armed troops rolling in.
leechdemon
1000%. It's legal here, so it's an opening to normalize federal control and military presence. Like any other outlandish thing Trump does; it's a "public beta" for whatever he's gonna do next month.
tzahtman
Nationalizing the DC police, yes. Putting Bondi in charge of the police, no. At least according to Legal Eagle
enderite
College classes have been taught about how everything Nazi germany did was “legal”.
Drakesfear
DC is under the Federal Government and it's ability to run itself has always been with this possibility. Again, don't agree, but he's the only one who ever ever exercised the option
enderite
I understand your point. But understand, legal doesn’t mean anything to me. You are right. And you saying you would fight is good.
I just don’t care. Legality is merely the whim of those in power.
Fentex
It sort of was, and wasn't. Germany voted in a referendum to join the Presidency and Chancellorship with quite extreme powers - because it seemed efficient. They undoubtedly thought it meant quick fixes to an ailing economy. Hitler was given nigh dictatorial power by Germany's choice - which sort a makes his acts legal, but he did run with it further than they meant, to illegal lengths. It becomes a political and knotty question what was and wasn't illegal then. Germany (and U.S.A) fucked up.
ianrl337
yep, that is a key point many are missing. If DC was part of another state, or a state in of itself then this wouldn't be possible.
SisyphusRollin
Its always a con, he's sending in 800 guys to walk around and do nothing because there isn't a real problem. Theres probably a fund their taking some cash out of as well somehow.
VaultGirl69
It just takes one altercation for them to blast on the media that violence has "erupted". I mean, they're doing that anyways. There's still not any reason to bother with reasons at this point, but they still do it. Probably to protect themselves if the law becomes relevant again in the future.
INeverReadTheTOS
Turns out that's why Republicans were so against making DC a state. They were future-proofing their eventual rise to fascism.
NaughtyGod1
They've been ACTIVELY doing that since before Reagan. See: Koch Family, Heritage Foundation, Peter "I need to be killed in public" Thiel
TresusIbor
That and they didn't want more democrat seats
GravyEducation
DC and Puerto Rican statehood would be a real thorn in the side of their finely tuned gerrymandering set up
poscduke
The biggest concern would be in the Senate which has statewide elections and thus can't be gerrymandered
ItsACrazyWorld
So people really dont understand how the US works. He can take the capitol but it means nothing in the long run. We are not a nation that solely depends on one form of government to run things. This is why each state has its OWN government and set of laws. To truly try and take this entire country he would have to declare martial law on every state. Obviously the GOP states would fall in line but the democratic states wouldnt. In that scenario the national guard will defend their own states.
ItsACrazyWorld
In this scenario all he is doing is taking control of a city. Barely. This is going to backfire drastically on him just like with everything else he does. They are going to run out of money. See how loyal those cops are once they realize they arent being paid.
Doompug
No, the trump regime step by step dismantles teh dmocratic institutions. And theye gut the officer corps by removing disloyalists. Then they take the red states. And then teh blue states have no national guard because it is run by trump. they have no FBI, ICE, or US Marshals bcause they work for trump. And even with them, they would have no chance against the US Army, USAF, US Navy. You are more than halfway to Chile under Pinochet. Without a true uprising with millions of ppl? Gone.
RedHotCookie
Not to burst tje bubble but, that's how germany worked and works too. Same shit is happening. And no. Laws won't help you. Only doing something, actively resisting is doing anything.
ItsACrazyWorld
That's completely wrong and not the same thing. Germany was in the middle of a crushing depression after losing WW1. Their democratic government was in shambles with no leadership.
RedHotCookie
Yes rich people.. devastated working class by economic pressure and unending wars and industrial revolution. Lose the industrial and put in digital.. and please try to open your eyes to the crushing depression the USA is in right now. So many homeless people. The American dream is a dead man walking. Social system or health care is a joke. Half dead people don't want to go into hospitals because it would cripple their families financially. Old people need to work till they drop.
RedHotCookie
Then describe the stable and strong leadership in the USA and try to show me the not depressed economy of the last 10years in the USA.. oh and the peace period it had. Show me. Tell me like I am 5 years old and not a 36 year old German with good school education including the rise and fall if the third reich.. yes yes tell me.. slowly. How the new "newspapers" created a new medium for spreading Propaganda and the right or left extreme thinking used it.. or how and why economy got scrambled.
RedHotCookie
Wait.. my original comment was an answer to a guy saying that the federal system will save the USA. Where is that comment? Wtf? This isn't even the same post! Imgur at it again..
RedHotCookie
And brw. You didn't even answer to my point. We do have a federal system. We have however have true democracy instead of the wierd system is the USA, granted. But no system can protect you from people ignoring it. Ignoring standing laws and act like they stand above. If you don't hold them accountable and resist dictators.. no system or economy growth will save you. Napolean, Stalin, Lenin, Hitler, Mussolini, Castor, Putin...... all diffrent circumstances but always the same behaviour pattern.
Chereazi
The world isn't underreacting, the world is just in a "we fucking told ya so ya idiots, but you just HAD to take the proven scamming rapist moron over the highly qualified black lady" state, this was entirely avoidable if people would listen to anything other than musk's hundreds of millions spent on targeted misinformation campaigns...
mdevil
Haha, jokes on you and musk, hundreds of millions? Don't you get it? America was founded on racism and a caste system. The US literally had a whole war that both sides denied was about slavery. Muskovitz could have bought a new yacht with that money, and the states would have still never elected a qualified woman.
psmith00
even after Musk's complaints about how many bots there were on twitter as he was going through the purchase I wonder how many bots and what their political leanings are now. oh, wait, right, millions and far right.
4Astaroth
Musk and his OnlyBots should get canceled all over the world. Still waiting for Europe to end that mess.
SinisterDuff
Ok, so I'm in nj...if the rest of the world would like to liberate us, since they have so many aggressive thoughts on the subject...maybe when you blast us, you give me a quick clean death...
4Astaroth
People should immediately make this appointment her problem.
MissSiesta
The free world is screaming at you "kill the autocrat", and you're just standing around doing fuck all. The people under autocrats are gleeful and the autocrats are laughing cause now they will get more power.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Also what is the world gonna do at this point? Americans granted him total control of the biggest economy and the biggest military on the planet. And he's not afraid to use both of these for his own selfish goals.
So... what do you expect? World leaders risking 9000% tarriffs (or worse) for calling fascism fascism, when everyone already knows it, and half of Americans don't even think that's a bad thing?
unluckyandbored
The 2016 and 2024 elections prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the US is deeply, irrevocably misogynistic. We elected a RAPIST and a FELON over a woman.
JackDeHearts
To be fair with all the election interference and gerrymandering, you can probably conclude it was stolen unfairly, if not outright illegaly.
4Astaroth
I have no doubts about it.
JackDeHearts
Yeah so blaming the voters is kinda worthless
4Astaroth
Partly at least. He still has hundred of thousands supporters in the USA. Maybe millions even. They are a problem because they are loud on the internet. And we see police being on his side. That's another problem. The biggest problem is the loser in command Donald. Without him the cult vanishes.
JackDeHearts
Yeah thats what the romans said about that 1st century apocalypse preaching itenerant rabbi
teddybearsucide
Classical, distraction technique to make you outrage over this instead of the epstein files. It worked again
invaliduserformat
Ain't nobody gonna solve the American problem, apart from America's citizens.
ImgurIsOutOfUsernames
That and the fucking "both sides" morons
Rapbot20
The world?
DrFlukeHawkins
The world that's out there censoring the internet en masse?
Closetnuzzlepuzzla
Censoring the US version of the internet. Yes
mdevil
Hahaha, exactly. No other country censors it's internet. The EU definitely isn't. China has never even heard of this internet thing. Powerful countries, run by billionaire businessmen, would never restrict or influence how or which kind of information you get. Never. For no reason. Absolutely none at all.
Closetnuzzlepuzzla
Sounding pretty defensive there. In Australia we don't get saturated with EU or Chinese social media. It's primarily all US. And the EU and China aren't threatening to increase tariffs if we don't deregulate our social media laws currently.
darthnerdus6236
They're very much trying to invade your privacy more than censor the internet at the moment. The midget porn is still there, you will just need a government ID for it.
mdevil
If you don't think the media is being censored, you might be part of the problem. If not at least heavily censored by the corporate overlords, not just in America but all over the world, "journalists" are becoming increasingly rare. It's much easier to kill or buy human beings than you want to admit.
theworldcouldbeflat
I disagree with your statement, Project 2025 came out last year and none of the American's are actually going to read into it. It's definitely reached a point where Americans are waiting around to die now. Taking over DC, nobody died yet move on, other things he is doing actually have a body count to them.
khaoselement
It's pretty blatantly obvious at this point that the elections were stolen. They fucking openly admitted it. Don't blame the people who literally didn't elect this Nazi.
MissSiesta
But they are LETTING HIM STAY ON. Who the FUCK is responsible for their leader, if not the population???
CheeseB0t
Hmm, no.
A lot of the world is either blissfully ignorant or resigned.
If "The World" clearly saw the parallels to Hitler's rise, things would be different.
Some see it, and some are even actively resistant.
Most just go about their lives.
For example. The information about the Epstein case has been out there for years upon years.
But when it hit the mainstream suddenly it was revelatory.
4Astaroth
The thing is that no one wants to interfere with the society of another country because it is assumed to be voted for. If it was clear there was cheating involved or something like that way more leaders would try to help.
MediocreExtremist
and a few more dems bothered to show up
Closetnuzzlepuzzla
The fact that your comment has been downvoted by a bunch of Dems is pretty much a microcosm of the entire situation. MAGA unites through blind hatred, while the good people cancel each other over nuances that ultimately can't matter as much as you think they must.
Darkspire
Ohhhhh but they stuck to their principles because the candidate they had wasn't custom catered to their whiny bullshit
bshodokai
'but Kamala didn't end the Gaza genocide (that has been going on for over 50 years) with her magical vice president powers'
DukeDarkwood
The ability to break ties in the Senate, right?
That's the VP's only power, unless something happens to the President.
bshodokai
Yyp
Hevach
The president can delegate their powers to the VP, and I feel like it's something presidents don't do nearly enough. Truman, Johnson, Bush Sr, and Gore all had more active roles than is typical for VPs and it paid off at election time - three of them won handily and Gore came down to technicalities despite being a pretty weak candidate overall.
Etherealvalentine
Once again reminding everyone that the election was actually stolen. It was not free, it was not fair. Trump did not win the election. He did not win the popular vote. Trump did not win this last election. It is not good or just, to laugh and point fingers at a people who are being taken advantage of. Once again reminding everyone that you are doing your part to help fascism win, when you sow malcontent amongst your comrades.
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SergeyPrkl
106 million.
mdevil
As pointed out already, the pedophile, rapist piece of white trash won the popular vote. He did so by appealing to the roughly 30 percent of Americans that are openly racist and misogynistic, and by convincing a good enough portion of the other 30 percent that are closeted racists and misogynists that he was the best choice.
patapof
The world has been watching the USA intervene in conflicts it wasn't invited to but could profit from, lie about health risk in industries that were profitable to them, disregard proper education, healthcare, minority rights, encourage possession of guns, turn every environmental issue into a debate, privatize prisons and turn them to profit centers... Yes, we have sort of given up at this point.
Etherealvalentine
So your answer is to take out your frustrations on a populace that is being taken advantage of, instead of the people who are doing the advantage-taking. Got it. Your character is showing, and it's not very humane or empathetic. Fascism is on the rise everywhere in the world, and if everyone pointed fingers and laughed at everyone else, we will have abandoned our humanity.
TierfreierNichtraucherhaushalt
Even 30% is too much. Nevertheless, many countries are still talking cleverly, even though they already have right-wing populists with such values in their parliaments.
Etherealvalentine
Yep. We should never be laughing at our friends' misfortunes.
TheDaharMaster
I feel like a LOT of ppl have forgotten this or are simply ignoring it
Etherealvalentine
It's inconvenient to the feelings of a lot of people who have frustrations and nowhere to outlet them. Half the time the election is spoken about being rigged, people vehemently deny it, but then later on in the day, a post like this will get to the front page. I've come to the conclusion that the people denying anything went wrong with this election, are ignorant at best, and agents of the enemy at worst. It's inconvenient and uncomfortable to be told that things are worse than you thought.
hardboiledfrog
Those voting machines can be easily hacked, apparently... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjgWhgEBuWA
Fentex
The U.S is BAD at elections, that's apparent. BUT that is not the same as evidence of actual cheating (which there are some court cases being pursued regarding votes not evident in announced results). No one has proved that something like hacked machines was used to generate a win from an otherwise loss. Even though it's a pretty good bet, I think, that Rethuglicans would cheat if they could.
Etherealvalentine
Look more closely into it.
Fentex
Oh you precious little child - don't ask people to research your point when they are disagreeing with you. They won't. You need to make good arguments when you speak up if you want to change anyone's mind. In past discussion I learned about court cases that seem to have a good prima facie argument regarding vote tampering - but that's also a limited matter to a small location - you just seem to be whining about losing. I don't pay you any-more mind than I did drumpfs whines he lost.
FlippedOut
77 million of you voted for trump, 20 million didnt care enough. 74 million voted for Kamala. That's 97 million people we can point and laugh at as they wanted Fascism.
Etherealvalentine
If you laugh at a people being taken advantage of, your character is showing and it's not impressive. I'm sorry you forgot your empathy, critical thinking cap, and humanity at the door.
Fn0rd
Stop virtue signalling. Trump won the fucking popular vote, because a third of the US either wanted that, didn’t want a woman in the White House, or didn’t care enough to stop it. Stop debating bullshit points and go on the street FIGHT FOR YOUR FUCKING RIGHTS OR ACCEPT DEFEAT AND WITHER IN AN ICE DETENTION CAMP. FUCKING 1935 IS IN FULL EFFECT ON THE AMERICAN PEOPLE… WHY ARE THE STREETS NOT BURNING???
Etherealvalentine
I'm not virtue signaling. I'm sorry you assume much about strangers, and I'm sorry you don't seem to have a full grasp on the situation. Do you think all-capsing people on the same team as you, is worthwhile, helpful, or hopeful? Spreading divisiveness and malcontent is the work of authoritarians, so leave it to them, please. You cannot be civil in this discussion, so this is the last response you will get from me.
Etherealvalentine
That's 97 million people you can remember have been indoctrinated, duped, or otherwise taken advantage of. That's 97 million chances to prove your empathy and humanity matter.
Agreement2agree
Too late for that debate. DO SOMETHING
Etherealvalentine
I hope you find empathy if you ever find yourself needing it.
You are angry at the state of the world. So is almost everyone. Fascism is on the rise across the entire planet. What are you doing, to help? Yelling assumptions online at strangers you know nothing about. How very unhelpful. Your divisive & hateful attitude is a boon to oppressors across the globe. Be careful when and how you speak to others, because your character will show.
Etherealvalentine
I'm not looking to debate. There's no debate to be had here. I'm stating facts.
hatsuseno
"DO SOMETHING" is nkt an invitation to debate.
Etherealvalentine
Those two words, put together, with no other context, are not an invitation to debate. Correct. *clap*
Etherealvalentine
I'm sorry you didn't have the patience to read the first statement made.
boognish115
I think the uncomfortable truth is he won with the popular vote. We can still fight back but we must accept that this is America without makeup.
SavageDrums
Of all the votes counted? Sure. But so, so many votes were not counted. And, statistically, it seems that a bunch of fraudulent votes were added.
It was not free, fair, or legitimate in any way.
Etherealvalentine
I think the truth is found in facts. The facts show that Trump did not win the popular vote.
boognish115
My bad. Didn’t know you had facts. This changes everything.
Etherealvalentine
It really does
Fentex
CNN (https://edition.cnn.com/election/2024/results/president?election-data-id=2024-PG&election-painting-mode=projection-with-lead&filter-key-races=false&filter-flipped=false&filter-remaining=false) says he did, with a pluraity of 49.8% as do other sites and references I found.
So - yes, yes he did win the popular vote. He IS the U.S's choice.
Etherealvalentine
I feel sorry that you and several others believe we had a free and fair election, despite evidence to the contrary.
DarthGoodguy
Yeah. Obviously the gerrymandering and mass voter disenfranchisement helped, but Pepe heard this obvious liar say that all his terrible business and failed policies were great & just decided it was true
DarthGoodguy
*people heard
Let’s leave poor Pepe out of this
Hayashima
Pepe has suffered enough in the hands of the fash