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nsaladbar
Ain't them imgur potato servers located in the thick of this?
colonelgandalf
BREED09
This is perfect
Madderrs
Fuck. Fuck. Fuck, fuck and fuck. Fuck, fuck and Bugger. Bugger buggerty buggerty fuck fuck arse fuckity shit shit Willy shitfuck and...tits
bandashee
Best part of the movie.
afx82
?If you’re going to san fransisco. Be sure to weear rubber boots when you’re there?
YuliqaMadiq
And don’t leave anything in your car.
SteveNotSteve
... In the streets of San Francisco, Gentle people pooping everywhere ...
F242
Yup,No jokes Even my dog is not allowed to walk with out protection in there!
dudedude09
Doo doo you know the way to San Jose? I'm going back to find some some piece of mind...
TheRealJakeLongg
There is no more shit on the ground in SF than any other place. Media is the one spreading shit.
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
IDK, it's not anywhere near as bad as this would make you think but it's definitely a problem.
colderfish
What part of the city is this? I've lived here 20 years and have only ever seen human shit a couple times.
SwaghettiYologneseWithMemeballs
Great, now do one for India
FiveStarMojo
I was in San Francisco last month and didn't see any poop.
cryborg
A lot of these are dog feces
UggItsThatKid24
San Franshitshow
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
San Fecesco
GeauxGhoti
"Are you goingggg to San Franshitshowwww?" I can't get that out of my head, now.
VincentV189
Best comment of the day, congrats.
UggItsThatKid24
ooyorkoo
As a Native SFin the poop come from homeless. And MOST not allot homeless, come from outside of your the Bay Area and usually out of state
ooyorkoo
This is with a huge Caveat that my data comes from years of me working in downtown retail asking where there from. Lots from Midwest, Texas
bbueller
there it is
BenderRodriguz1010
Rohmke
3MidgetsInATrenchCoat
You, sir, are breathtaking
jazzhandpanda
Bystandr
So, any word yet on how much money in lost tourism and cleanup costs have been tallied vs what it would have cost to run a few public
Bystandr
toilets and run a few street cleaners? Could have given a few of the more functional homeless some cleanup jobs maybe? Hindsight getting
F242
Hahaha,funny guy...they will sue you for stress them out and your racist behavior towards them...
Bystandr
'given' as in a offered employment, not forced lol.
F242
Go ahead, I was offering to pay for a homeless person some edibles, the look in his face was so intimidating that I had to scape
Bystandr
clearer yet?
starkart
Thats even better
UggItsThatKid24
So glad I went with it over San Franshitsco
degenerator
I left my fart in San Franshitshow.
CompletelyOrginal
Was it just a fart?
degenerator
TBH, more of a shart.
GlowstickJedi
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justTed
10 days walking around all diff neighborhoods in San Francisco and never saw any human shit. Not saying its not there, but not an epidemic
jvillager916
I'm staying out in Hunters Point and I don't see much of that here.
seedye
This is the product of a FOIA request from a wingnut org that purports to track tax waste, but mostly uses FOIA requests to try to 1/
seedye
bankrupt liberal cities by designing the requests to be impossible or expensive to fulfill. The only reason this map exists is because SF 2/
seedye
collected this data to make cleanup fast & efficient. And, of course, it makes no distinction between animal and human waste. 3/3
seedye
Also, the idiots using this as political fodder want SF do LESS for homeless, so that homeless choose to stop being homeless. Great plan.
Cheomesh
People still fall for that?
NJAFO
Democrat leadershit at it's finest.
evilcarp
Large cities in warmer parts of the nation need to get together and sue the cities and states dumping their homeless.
Cheomesh
This.
neutrik
It seems useful in case you've lost your shit.
cre8majic
are we sure these are all human poos? with the ban on plastic bags, pet owners aren't scooping as much as they used to
Stratego89
And... how much of a timespan covers all the points we see on this image? My guess is several months or several years. Way to leave it out.
FaxCelestis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/
th3guy
SF resident here. It’s not nearly as bad as this suggests. I mean there’s plenty of poop (lots of homeless), but this exaggerates it
FaxCelestis
just checked, the map spans 2011-2018
colderfish
Same here. Only ever seen it a couple times in 20 years. But, I don't leave North Beach area much
Genini
Gonna be honest seeing any poop is too much.
th3guy
I mean, fair, but we’re not talking wading through apocalyptic levels of feces like this map would have you believe.
FaxCelestis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/
actualseal
"Nearly as bad" sounds like a rather convenient way to ignore the problem.
atomiccheesegod
What is the acceptable amount of human shit on the street? When I was in Afghanistan they didn’t even shit in the streets...
dipdapdeepdupdoh
Sfresident here, you must live in a better area than I.
F242
Pacific Heights, and yes is not posh
rjnh
I’ve lived in the sunset for years. I have never once seen any around Judah or Irving.
xxirish83x
Former 42nd and Noriega - sunset was fairly shit free. but apparently that map says otherwise
cosmosHiggsBison
SF resident as well. Mostly heard this from ppl outside of SF. “U live in SF?Isn’t it covered in shit?”. Um no? Wtf? Maybe o’Farrell st only
musesf80
Same, SF resident and it’s bad but not to the degree people love to talk about. The upsides outweigh the issues for me.
cosmosHiggsBison
But every city has its own o’farrell street. So fuck your haters. SF is beautiful and has open minded people. Homelessness is real tho
heXonyou
“Open minded people” yeah unless you disagree with them
jvillager916
I've been out here for a month handling some family stuff. I love it here. I like how accessible most of the city is by bike.
FaxCelestis
This map is over a significant amount of time (IIRC, 6 months or so), not one day like people seem to think it is.
atomiccheesegod
Still, I haven’t seen any human shit in my city over 6 month period
FaxCelestis
Sorry, the actual map is from 2011-2018.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
You still realize that 28,000 reports is an absolutely massive amount of human waste and far more than any of the previous years?
FaxCelestis
The actual map, I checked, covers 2011-2018.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
https://twitter.com/JohnPaczkowski/status/1118263011926532097 Please educate yourself.
FaxCelestis
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrzejewski/2019/04/15/mapping-san-franciscos-human-waste-challenge-132562-case-reports-since-2008/
FaxCelestis
"Available data is the result of resident reporting to the city’s 311 dispatchers during the years 2011-2019."
Saker82
Fake
WraithTDK
San Francisco's entire culture is basically "do whatever the fuck you want don't you dare try to enforce any rules on anyone."
christmasboii7
A well informed opionion ^^ ??
Cheomesh
Libertarian paradise?
MyBigMouth
Ever been to Shite-Ashbury?
purdhapley
Haight assberry
spiffylookingnerfherder
No one goes there anymore. It's too crowded.
TheEvenPrez
Odd question, but is there a way to monetize this poop?
DarkAngelWarlord
Biogas energy is created from burning the gas that comes off animal poop and rotting plants so maybe that but with human poop maybe?
DarkAngelWarlord
Nigerian women made a urine-powered generator at Maker Faire Africa http://makerfaireafrica.com/2012/11/06/a-urine-powered-generator/
DarkAngelWarlord
I know they used urine to tan hides back like 100 years ago I dunno if they still do it but thats where we get the term Piss Poor
Cheomesh
Nah, they used feces. Called "pure".
HenryLongfellowIII
In the middle east they still do sometimes, so if you buy the wrong leather it smells like camel piss when it's wet.
beian
Also as mordant for dyeing cloth.
Neurisko
This guy here is going to be a millionaire.
cosmosHiggsBison
I live in SF and people claiming it’s covered in shit are those who don’t live here. Y’all just hate our city. SF is def top 5 US city
ManRammer
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/a3xdae/more-people-pooping-in-san-francisco-than-ever-all-time-high-vgtrn
Oteneo
I used to love SF - i spent a week there, two years ago, it's gone downhill. way too many homeless people and shit on the sidewalks.
ManRammer
https://twitter.com/JohnPaczkowski/status/1118263011926532097
atomiccheesegod
Enjoy your $4000k a month rent
cryborg
https://www.sfgate.com/expensive-san-francisco/article/rent-room-no-cooking-kitchen-law-habitability-13691981.php
cosmosHiggsBison
Definitely. With 200k salary
F242
That's just cover for a single bedroom and maybe half bathroom...no parking .
F242
Typo, sorry
cosmosHiggsBison
“SF is covered in shit” narrative is a political attack, given Nancy Pelosi. SF is like any other major city with good and bad parts.
atomiccheesegod
There are documentaries detailing it
Cheomesh
There's documentaries detailing a lot of nonsense.
zaitypola
Lived in SF for the past 4 years and the things you get to see here are not seen anywhere else. People just drop their pants and shit.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
I mean... No? The SF department of public works released stats that indicate there's more human feces in SF now than ever before.
Sirtopumhat
I lived there 5-6 years ago and didn't see poop. Was there a week ago and walked from my hotel on Montgomery to Tommy's joint. No poop.
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
Yeah this makes it seem way worse than it actually is. Not that it isn't bad. I've definitely seen human shit, but only in the Tenderloin.
Sirtopumhat
Not saying it isn't flawed place and too expensive. Apologies if my experience doesn't fit the narrative.
LieutenantGordon
Yes, your single anecdote completely outweighs everyone else's. /s
Sirtopumhat
I was sharing my point of view and experience. I didn't ask that it be given more weight. Please share.. we all learn by connecting.
stonecw
Yeah - that area seems to be less shitty ... literally. Get south of Market and you'll need galoshes.
hotblisters
Can confirm. Lots of shit SOMA
Stratego89
Because this is a Republican bs hoax. Even if all these reports are true, the image above is points plotted over the course of several YEARS
cosmosHiggsBison
SF resident here, can confirm. This is exaggerated af and coming from ppl that don’t live here. Heard this from Fox News a lot. Wtf right?
AnAccountToPostThis
Nevermind the fact that the cities own stats and leaders say its a problem. Maximum cognative dissonance.
Stratego89
They have created a shit smearing campaign against California because they're upset they have to recognize that it's policies work.
SaharaB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0
SisterSpooky01
While I hate both parties, ur assessment is trash. It’s no “smear campaign”. CA has massive homelessness, insane taxes, etc. that caused it
SteveNotSteve
What policies would those be?
LlamaLingo
Isnt California’s debt levels really high? Aswell as other economical problems and high crime?
BrushesofDoom
There was a dude on a corner with a sign near the art museum with a son that said “ give me a dollar or I’ll shit on your street”
cryborg
His son is rude
PulpyOJ
BrushesofDoom
Sign *
starkart
Sigh
Genini
He'd make more money if he also wrote on the sign, 'For $5 I'll shit on the street of your choice'
cryborg
This is not a bad idea. Someone could make an app for that.
HenryLongfellowIII
.. and e-mail you the photo
HitByAMackTruck
It's a failed state with failed policies - run by self-assured 'smart people' who don't get why their taxes are so high.
atomiccheesegod
Then they move to Tx, NC, FL and try to make it more like Cali
Cheomesh
Ever question why someone would do that?
HitByAMackTruck
Control freaks who ruined the state they lived and voted in, moved elsewhere to 'better,' and attempt to ruin it as well. That's what I've
HitByAMackTruck
seen.
Cheomesh
Doubtful. This sounds like the programming so many NPCs just blabber out.
ThatNoPicklePeeThatNoPumpARum
I mean, failed state is questionable while it's the biggest state economy, san fran isn't the entire state.
epipenis
Yeah poop in SF means CA is a failed state /s
atomiccheesegod
It’s on fire all of the time because of the CARB doing everything they can to limit controlled burns. Cali is a mess
epipenis
You know that 65% of CA is federal lands right?
ledfan90
Don’t get why you’re being downvoted, it’s true my relatives moved to San Jose last year for because of the rent.
evilcarp
Cali doesn't even come close to having the nasty meth and heroin problems of your typical bankrupt red state.
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
5th largest economy in the entire world, ample employment, breathtaking natural beauty everywhere you turn... It's not without it's 1
HitByAMackTruck
That economy - it includes the "Total revenue from fed. gov.: $436.1 billion (the most)", correct?
Cheomesh
https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
problems but calling it a "failed state" is completely laughable. 2/2
atomiccheesegod
Has some of the worst income inequality in the U.S, $4k a month rent, laws that’s limit affordable housing, encourage wildfires
epipenis
Isn’t CA rent just the free market at work? What’s your problem? You want the government to step in almost like socialism?!
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
Michigan but I also make about double what I'd make in the same job and it's extremely easy to get that job here comparatively. 2/2
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
Sure. Like I said, not without it's problems. But it's hardly a failed state. My rent is higher here than it would be if I moved back to 1
spiffylookingnerfherder
Failed state in what way? Compared to whom?
HitByAMackTruck
"Total revenue from fed. gov.: $436.1 billion (the most [out of any state])"
spiffylookingnerfherder
And how much does CA contribute to the federal coffers? I'll give you a hint - we subsidize the rest of the country.
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Certainly not the Republican role model of Alabama.
SisterSpooky01
It’s too much to type in 140 characters. Do some research. Info. isn’t difficult to find on the cluster that is CA.
creamyt
Excellent supporting argument. /s
spiffylookingnerfherder
So you don't know either, you just like to parrot the line you heard on Fox?
SisterSpooky01
Ummm... no. You shouldn’t assume anything about someone you don’t know. I already stated it’s too much for 140 characters. You appear lazy.
creamyt
You can't defend a claim by saying the other person is too lazy to provide their own evidence for YOUR claim.
tooomanystevesgotbanned
In 36 years, I have never seen human faeces on the street in my city. Is this a USA thing?
atomiccheesegod
It’s a Woke City (SF, Portland, Seattle) thing.
rjl2tigerdrop
I live in the US. Never in my city. SF just has the right mix of expensive property and bad government for a perfect “shit storm”
tinytinkingdom
The first time I went to Portland Oregon there was a massive shit in a parking garage. Haven’t seen any since
WeCouldAllGoPeeTogether
It's limited to a very few select shitty cities. The overwhelming majority of us poop the cool way.
Snooj
In the shower?
WeCouldAllGoPeeTogether
Standing on our hands while riding an escalator.
HenryLongfellowIII
You can find many videos of people urinating and crapping on the seats in mass transit and in stores.
Neptuneflyer
No it's a California thing, and more specifically LA and SF.
atomiccheesegod
It’s spread to the PNW. Portland and Seattle vase their policies on SF and it shows with drug needles/ poop on the streets
Neptuneflyer
Well isn't that just great, spread the joy! If it's working great in SF why not try it elsewhere too!
Cheomesh
I've seen it here in my small town in Maryland.
SteveNotSteve
Where do you live?
rjl2tigerdrop
New Orleans. We have a homeless problem but not a public shit problem.
SteveNotSteve
NOLA knows how to clean streets. If you stay up too late, you get to see the guys hosing down Bourbon Street at dawn.
rjl2tigerdrop
Yeah I’ve still been out drinking when they’re doing it lol
rjl2tigerdrop
Because it’s still illegal to camp on the street here so they have to check into a shelter or leave
PinkEater
Homeless living in a dense city. I'm sure several cities actually have the same situation.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
Not really. There isn't a major population center in all of the USA that comes close to the public defecation rates, that's city stats.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
Sure there's shit on the streets of NY, but the whole "it's not THAT bad" attitude only hurts SF and its people.
HenryLongfellowIII
Enough poor old people scavenging in Hong Kong but they seem to be able to find places to relieve themselves that are not on the street.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
If the level of social responsibility that Asian countries impose was ever suggested here our snowflakes would think the Reich returned.
Cheomesh
Social responsibility? Sounds like Communist Socialism!
atomiccheesegod
NYC has more people, and surprisingly few homeless, and I never saw human shit on the streets there, just trash
tooomanystevesgotbanned
Yikes, do you not have free public toilets?
PinkEater
I'm sure there are a few but not near enough. Non-homeless use bathrooms in malls or fast food places.
stonecw
There were public toilet programs (even self-cleaning ones) in the past, but the homeless kept using them to shoot up and/or wrecked them.
EpilatorAlligatorBothReduceGrowth
Almost like a safe place to shoot up would be an improvement. Many countries have support houses that offer free needles and space.
LegendMasterX
Most places do, not san fran
caledric
Nope we are sorely lacking in them
degenerator
SF was not always like this. This is a recent phenomenon.
atomiccheesegod
The San Fran City council is the highest paid in the U.S. they pass rules that limit affordable housing while pretending to be liberal
degenerator
Serious question: How much are they paid?
atomiccheesegod
$184k yr as of 2015, probably over $200k now
Stratego89
It's not like this NOW either. This chart is bs.
IRegisteredToLaughAtYou
I'm sure the city DoPW have just invented those statistics... For ten years...
spiffylookingnerfherder
It is pretty bad in some areas. The causes are nuanced and not as simple as ' people like to be homeless bcus libtards made it legal'.
SaharaB
At this point even fucking Alameda County is better off than San Francisco
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
Former SF resident now in Oakland. Oakland is far more pleasant. There are definitely stretches of homeless tent encampments but the city 1
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
Oakland is right there next to it. It's like a 12 minute BART ride. 3/3
haveyouheardabouttheseinternetmemes
does a good job of putting portapotties there and cleaning them out regularly. I have no idea why anyone would want to live in SF when 2
ratfinkfuck
How is this such a big issue here, but not elsewhere in the States? What about San Francisco makes you want to shit in public?
DeKetsendeRechter
Yeah that whole country is a shitshow!
CoBr2
You’re homeless, you can be anywhere, might as well go to a state that’s pretty and temperate.
gtmiller
Most come from out of state and are evicted when they can't pay rent. No one wants to take on the trusts raising rent.
notyourmommasinfidel
spiffylookingnerfherder
Population of both Dakota's in 49 square miles, lack of public restrooms, and a handful of cities absorbing a nation's mental health crisis.
GetSchwiftyClub
Yep, SF is surrounded by water on 3 sides, space restricted and old as hell. Impossible to find a bathroom unless a patron at a business.
RezaQin
And you can do heroin in the BART stations!
FaxCelestis
The map spans 2011-2018.
OstrichNuggets
Cause there are no god dang public restrooms!!! But also I've lived in SF for 6 years and I've personally never seen human shit so idk
voodoofu
Honolulu is pretty bad too.
Lowestscoreever
Democrats love shits.
spiffylookingnerfherder
St Ronnie shut down the mental institutions, and the mentally ill gravitated and/or were pushed towards places where they wouldn't freeze..
spiffylookingnerfherder
..to death in winter and the cops wouldn't beat them up before moving them on. So now we have people who should be in an institution..
spiffylookingnerfherder
.. living on the street, with no access to meds, taking whatever street drugs get them through the day, and sobbing / shitting on the corner
Squagglenater
Its a mix of huge amounts of homeless people and lack of public restrooms because the homeless use them for everything. Try finding a public
Squagglenater
Bathroom in SF, its the same reason all the parking garages are covered in piss whwnever the bill graham has a show.
darthlawsuit
Ask the Democrats they have uncontested control over it and have had for decades:
PostmasterG
Anal sex
ExcessiveDabbage
San Fransisco has a lot of homeless people. Fresno too. Pooing any where
s8whiskey
Public bathrooms in San Fran is a joke. Either pay to play or they refuse you if you're not up to standards.
mustangcharlie
Basically every public toilet in europe is pay to play. Why don't they have this problem?
s8whiskey
Some parts of Europe ARE bad. Others not so much. The homeless population in San Fran is staggering
WilliamWeird
It's the work of one dude, the mad pooper
Grumbleswhisperer
Shut up j-juu
derJake
The mad, mad poopahhh! Great. Now I have that song stuck in my head as well.
WilliamWeird
"There's Jimmy Pesto - he's so mad!"
mustangcharlie
He must have dysentery.
DickeyBirdie
A man with amazingly bad intestinal distress. He propels himself across town with it. That's how he's able to cover so much territory.
bearjew1990
Liberals
bearjew1990
Kind of like how Detroit went to shit, just with less popp
TheyCallMeJimmyButMyNameIsJames
San Francisco is run by far left wackjobs, not just normal Democrats that run cities.
andwhyisthecarpetallwetTodd
well... homeless is a first step
themightydouche
Super leftwing government and policies.
Ohtarr
laws prevent land lords from doing shit with their property... also cant build higher than 40ft in most areas... serious housing issues....
NicolasDWolf
A lot of folks walking around out there with loose buttholes
Twstdstlnsxapl
The heroines and meth's make you want to shit in public.
BREED09
Seattle is pretty bad. And even olympia is getting shitty
calichiq691
I'm sorry to have to tell you this, but Olympia has ALWAYS been shitty.
Fezzywigg
I was just in Seattle a couple weeks ago, stayed downtown. Didn’t see any poop, wasn’t harassed at all by homeless. Whole experience was A+
carlsagansghost
I've worked in downtown Seattle for 15+ years, and I've seen human crap like 4 times.
BouncerActual
Any of the parking garages that dont have security have shit just piled in corners.
carlsagansghost
Ah, so that's where it is. :) I take the bus in to work.
CouchCarrot
Have you been there?
DancingJesus
I live in LA. Is a homeless problem. We don't have good public services for them to use
Hydravelsen
Because it welcomes feral people and the ferals cant shit in bags anymore. Those are banned.
mobored
I think it's 2 things: 1) there's an app to report it. 2) it's not specifically just human feces. Around here, I see dog crap on sidewalks.
pooper27
The 49rs
JosephSelah
Every big city will have its homeless problem. CA contains 10th of the us population.
IDidntDoIt
Homeless population and good weather means more homeless go there. If you imagine homeless in the midwest (for ex) they just die of exposure
mustangcharlie
I saw homeless people in Omaha, NE in January. They adapt.
OrangeJesus
Homeless people in Milwaukee still go into gas stations to shit
imgbnt
From what I understand Cali is home to something like ~30% of the homeless population of the US and has really nice weather.
ratfinkfuck
Oh wow, goddamn. That's a fair few hobos
archimboldi
Seattle is nearly there as well
DumbShitIsMyTrigger
Lack of public toilets, businesses that will let you use the bathroom, and high homeless population
SidneyHarbor
Sounds like the easy solution is to force businesses to let anyone use their restrooms. Sharing is caring.
DumbShitIsMyTrigger
Except the few that do get caked in feces. No, seriously. Just...everywhere. The sink. The trash. The walls....
Katlamos
You're forgetting the rampant addictions that become a part of the cycle of homelessness, and so there's a fear that people will 1/
Katlamos
Do nothing but get high in some variety in the restrooms. Coupled with the US lack of safe houses, and this weird stigma that having 2/
Katlamos
Used sharps bins in restrooms will somehow compound the issue (ignoring actual medical need), and basically our country is fucked unless 3/
OverpricedCrayon
Here in Chicago i've seen 1 lady take a shit in a bag on a train platform next to some people and another lady pissing in a train station (1
OverpricedCrayon
stairwell right in front of everyone. Also seen a video from here oddly of another woman on the train peeing in a bottle. It happens (2
OverpricedCrayon
In a lot of big cities, or at least more noticeable there. But not sure why SF has a problem of it on the street. Homelessness and (3
OverpricedCrayon
drugs are a big problem there, plus stupid prices of everything.
cosmosHiggsBison
This is exaggerated af. Those who don’t live in SF claim this.
NicolasDWolf
You’re from the area?
actualseal
It's very real
cosmosHiggsBison
It’s real in tenderloin dude. Not what this map is showing.
actualseal
I thoroughly enjoy the semantic defence on this subject. Its still gone far beyond what is okay.
Teksura
The mayor in an interview said that. They were walking down a street of his choosing and passed several piles and a dude shooting up.
HorsefaceBeeguy
You get arrested for eating outside but not for pooping
afwink88
But don't you dare try to smoke a cigarette outside.
loser9999
Well that just seems unsanitary to eat around all that poop
Snooj
Eat the poop. Solve two problems at once.
ConAirWasAGreatMovie
And California still thinks the rest of the country should follow their policies and eliminate the electoral college.
MilgateRandy
Well since California has the six largest economy in the world that would make sense. California should also have more Senators.
nomoreavailableusername
U hate us cus u anus!
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Conservatives shit in public but they just don't live in cities so less people care.
venalpha
whuh?
BionicBeach
wot
asmpsUnityDog
Very liberal laws, SJW's protesting peoples rights, & a lack of public sanitory facilities for the homeless.
PiggyWobbles
If people are shitting outside then there is an obvious lack of public sanitory facilities...
asmpsUnityDog
They weren't expecting the number of homeless & with real estate prices its not like they can build more.
PiggyWobbles
It isn't real estate prices that hinder development, indeed high housing costs can spur development because it can be a sign of demand
asmpsUnityDog
Nobody want infrastructure that will attract more homeless in their area.
Ohtarr
not when you cant build up cuz laws, or upgrade because laws... or raise rent because laws.... or do anything useful because laws
Sandyundertones
It is an issue in every major city since always. It just gets more attention because it fits Republicans political narrative.
mustangcharlie
You sound like someone who isn't well traveled. I go to big mean Democrat controlled cities all the time on business, and this isn't normal.
Sandyundertones
Trust me, this happens everywhere and not just in the bad neighborhoods too. SF is no different.
Sandyundertones
I even worked in an organization that did harm reduction for street walkers and PWID in Richmond, DC, Baltimore and Philly.
Sandyundertones
I grew up in DC proper, live there for five years in bad neighborhoods, and traveled to numerous cities. SF is typical.
mustangcharlie
I'm in downtown DC once or twice a month and I've never seen so much as a single turd on the ground. Same with Philly. What am I missing?
Sandyundertones
Selection bias I guess. The Park Service also does a sweep about 7am every morning. Walk around at 5:30 am down 14th every morning.
Sandyundertones
Honestly, if you really want to see it, the tunnels under the Metro on M and K between 1st and 3rd NE are probably the best.
Sandyundertones
Also around Farragut and Franklin Square, NY Ave East of 6th or anywhere between the Mall and 695. You may not encounter it but it is there.
jdawgsplace
San Francisco just acknowledges the problem and has a solution... homeless folks gotta shit somewhere... and most businesses don't want them
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Is a special shit removal service really that much cheaper than more public restrooms?
jdawgsplace
In their restrooms
KleptoKea
I visited New York and saw people shitting in phone booths while people walked by unfazed. My friend there told me "Yeah well it's USA, 1/
KleptoKea
and it's New York". I was shocked. I've never seen people shitting in public in my homecountry. For starters we have public toilets 2/
Teksura
This sort of thing isn't the norm. It typically only happens in large cities that have had single-party control for several decades.
KleptoKea
I don't understand why basic amenities for sanitation and human dignity have to come down to politics in your country. 1/
KleptoKea
In others like mine, no party would stand in the way of ensuring these most basic amenities are available. 2/2
KleptoKea
available to everyone for free which is a no brainer as far as logic and basic humanity goes. 3/3
mrmcboogernuts
lobsterwhisperer
Where did you see a phone booth in New York? There haven’t been phone booths in the city for more than a decade. Must have been a relic.
OrangeJesus
I’m going to get downvoted to hell for this, but there is a common theme with sanctuary cities compared to the rest of the US
NoOneLikesYourSelfies
I'm from California, born and raised and yeah, this is the main cause probably. That and homelessness coupled with the shoplifting laws
PiggyWobbles
What a joke, the majority of homeless aren't immigrants
incorrecthorsestapler
They closed all the public bathrooms to save money.
bookw0rm
They’ve opened them up again
stonecw
1/2 Nah - they closed all the public restrooms because the homeless were using them to shoot up. The answer now is to build
spiffylookingnerfherder
Navigation Centers, and they're to be in every neighborhood. No one objected to the ones in Bayshore or Soma.
stonecw
That's right, they're called Navigation Centers. I'd be up in arms if they wanted to open one in close proximity to my home too.
Teksura
The city isn't against them shooting up though. Heck, they provide clean needles for them to use and discard on the street next to the shit.
stonecw
2/2 "transition centers" in upscale neighborhoods.
AtypicalMammal
Businesses really hostile to non-customers using restrooms, makes it really hard to go #2, even for non-homeless.
mustangcharlie
Honestly I think the plastic bag ban is far and away the single biggest contributor.
DickRogers
Even like the ultra progressive restaurants and cafes? Wasnt Starbucks forced to roll out an 'everyone is welcome' in our bathrooms 1/2
DickRogers
policy after that fiasco where the barrista called the cops on two black guys who werent buying anything and just sitting at a table ? 2/2
beian
Not if they no longer have public bathrooms. I've been in some that don't, in high homeless-population areas.
beian
They don't have the equipment or training to sanitize bathrooms after the uh...carnage that sometimes occurs. They actually have to (1)
beian
put in a call to a special service that comes and does it. That can take a bit of time and money.
drewgolas
There's issues like that in Atlanta but it's more centralized to various locations
buttwheek
Is anyone detecting a pattern here? Keep voting left idiots
drewgolas
I don't really vote left but also dont think correlation implies causation. Are there articles on what the right would do to alleviate this?
DocWino
For now. It spreads fast. In California, I can’t ride any of my favorite bike trails. Homeless took it all. It’s too dangerous now.
Monkries
Cuz democrats run places like that and they pass all these bills that allow people to do whatever they want like handing out free drugs
butttrumpet
Kinda went off the rails there at the end
Jazzcabage
Clinics
butttrumpet
No doubt there is a public health crisis in SF but, are you referring to methadone clinics? There are methadone clinics everywhere.
Jazzcabage
Yes, not just there. Trading street drugs for govnt./big pharma drugs in programs ppl rarely are able to ever get off.
tuxedobob
Herp durrrr.
hardytardigrade
It's true, Hannity said so /s
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Where are people handing out free drugs? Seriously. Where the fuck do you think that's happening?
KleptoKea
As an outsider, it seems like your whole fucked up country doesn't see the logic and humanity of providing public toilets everywhere in 1/
KleptoKea
all states for sanity and human dignity, and you guys are too busy throwing partisan spears at each other like tribal idiots to get your 2/
Monkries
You right probably but also the politicians these days mainly care about getting more power or money and not doing things for the people
KleptoKea
I'm amazed they haven't been called to account by the people. Politicians who failed to ensure these basic features for sanitation and 1/
KleptoKea
country catching up with the rest of the developed world. 3/3
wellthisjustgotinteresting
Yeah, that explains why other left-leaning places all have the same problem /s
spiffylookingnerfherder
They do actually. Right leaning places will incarcerate or ship them to SF/LA/SEA. Left leaning places are too 'soft' to euthanize them.
QuackQuackAttack
You say /s, but have you been to the other lefty west coast cities? Weather plus apathy disguised as compassion = street poop
tonycliftonlives
liberal policies promoting homelessness and deriliction
christmasboii7
which liberal policies promote homelessness? walk through the TL -- you see ppl with mental health probs who r incapable of functioning
smashfaceawesome
Cost of living may be impacting a few lives too.
spiffylookingnerfherder
Nah bro, pretty sure we'd all choose mental illness and homelessness if it weren't illegal. /s
TheRealAHole
You can derilicte my balls
hardytardigrade
Homelessness is promoted by lack of affordable housing, lack of adequate healthcare, and suppressed wages. Sound like "liberals" to you?
unitedstateoftexas
Liberals and the wealth divide, lack of affordable rehab etc have no scientifically substantial correlation from what I'm aware of. Sources?
smashfaceawesome
All the laws to combat homelessness keep getting overturned by the courts.
hstein3
https://www.city-journal.org/san-francisco-homelessness
Counterfit
Because making homelessness a crime doesn't fucking help anything
spiffylookingnerfherder
What's the conservative solution to homelessness?
imgurdotcommie
cut taxes for the rich, it'll all trickle down from there
thanatos777
Arrest homeless people and put them in jail, or ship them someplace else.
hardytardigrade
"Put it somewhere else", as far as I can tell. It doesn't actually solve the problem, it just solves the problem "for me".
theresgarlicinthatnebula
Send them to liberal cities and then blame the liberals.
PiggyWobbles
"Let them die and/or put them on busses and send them somewhere more civilized"
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Making being poor illegal. That way poor people will go to jail where they have enough toilets.
machineconductor
What? Like a fine for not being able to afford healthcare??
TheWombatStrikesAgain
It was a joke. But don't give them ideas.
GWXerxes
Give homeless shotguns, let the problem sort out itself
spiffylookingnerfherder
It might not be other homeless people they point the shotguns at.
starkart
Questions... LA i heard has a similar problem
DancingJesus
Can confirm. Have lived here for 3 years. It's a homeless problem and we have no good public services so they just go whatever
soullessrobot
Only skid row in downtown. It’s not a city wide issue.
Vaanhalen
Skid now refers to the poop mark
KingTonTon
Nah. I've been here 6 years and seen human shit once. Maybe skid row is different, but I walk a lot here and dont see it
DumbShitIsMyTrigger
Not NEARLY as bad. Not NEARLY
JesusHCoxMD
We have a huge homelessness problem here, but most of them are working full time jobs. Rent is crazy high in a lot of areas in LA (1/2)
JesusHCoxMD
rent each month+ bills exceeds what the average worker in LA makes. It’s a horrible cycle that’s putting ppl on the streets who shouldn’t be
yourotherpersonalitysucks2
Portland is really bad for this as well. They have people shitting in the front door of businesses constantly and all over the streets!
zebrains
Maybe. But in LA there arent some streets no one will go down because you have to hop from place to place where there isn't a turd.
DancingJesus
But there are. We don't have streets to avoid, we have entire blocks and city areas to avoid. Places like skid row are everywhere
stonecw
Exactly on some streets of the MIssion and SOMA - I call it the "San Francisco Hopscotch".
zebrains
See, you get it. I've never been but my brother definitely played San Francisco hopscotch. Lol
eatk
Yes there are. There is a whole section of DTLA called skid row that everyone who is not homeless avoids.
erhuameisuzhi
People drive through skid row regularly. My GPS takes me through there occasionally.
DancingJesus
Yeah you drive through in a car. You don't walk through and hang out. A car protects you from a lot
EMTMarv
Downtown LA skid row area yes they do but rest of LA is fine
starkart
I bet if it continues ... it will spread to other parts
hogeyegrex
You need a car to get around in LA.
Sandyundertones
Every major city has had this problem since always. SF just gets attention recently because it serves Republicans political narrative.
Monkries
I don’t think every major city has people crapping all over the place like this
Sandyundertones
Ya, they do. It just doesn't make the news.
jamiedBreaker
Welp not DC or Baltimore.
Monkries
Ive been to several major cities like Birmingham or Atlanta or Huntsville and I dont see people doing this everywhere
Vaanhalen
Anywhere the politicians run on "compassion" but dgaf
gtmiller
Not really, coincidence. Housing skyrockets in cities because LLCs buy real estate to sit vacant which simultaneously raises housing costs
gtmiller
and suppresses wages. The reason it happens is the property value grows exponentially as demand naturally increases and scarcity increases
gtmiller
both naturally and artificially. The only real solutions would to either refore tax codes in haven states like New Hampshire or for cities
bearjew1990
You mean liberal policy
LetumComplexo
So I decided to scroll through your comments and like 80% of it is “dunking on the libs”. Are you ok, dude? Need someone to talk to?
bearjew1990
Lol got something to add or just wanna go after me personally? Is San Fran not the poster child for liberal policy?
creamyt
It requires a lot less brain power than discussion or nuance
unitedstateoftexas
Austin, which is just California v1.1 now, also has human feces in the streets. It has a lot to do with population density, begging & wealth
unitedstateoftexas
To clarify; It is implied that the wealth divide plus lack of public services like rehab, shelters, food contribute to begging and 1/2
unitedstateoftexas
camping and subsequent shitting in wealthy high density neighborhoods because it is the most efficient way to get enough money to survive.
SardonicGrin
And liberal policies. Time to get real. The liberal run cities turn into 3rd world cities pretty fast.
ShouldersDeepInAHorse
Any place only governed by one side of politics turns into a shitshow, you need variety, or else you might as well have morachy
gtmiller
Nah, LLCs are buying out properties and never developing them. Which suppresses wages and raises rent.
gtmiller
Also, Austin's homeless are mostly from out of state and can't find a real job.
ratfinkfuck
Excuse you. I grew up in a 3rd world city and people there had the common decency to shit out of sight, thank you very much.
CoBr2
Much rather live in any city in California than any city in Alabama or Mississippi...
mustangcharlie
Good. We don't want you here either.
neanderbob
Where are you from?
CoBr2
Originally Rhode Island, but I’ve lived in Colorado, Mississippi, Florida, New Mexico, Arkansas and Japan. Visited almost every state too
iDrinkDrano
My theory is that conservative policy is usually to kick them out instead of help. Liberal is to try and help but not really know how to.
unitedstateoftexas
And with their powers combined, you have captain planet.
SidneyHarbor
The common thread is that politicians are more interested in using homelessness as a campaign issue than helping anyone.
imgurdotcommie
exactly.
unitedstateoftexas
This happens all the time in companies everywhere actually. Paralyzed by fear when management is uneducated, unthinking, nonscientific.
iDrinkDrano
So conservative cities are often cleaner cause they focus on the welcome and edge out the rest. Liberal cities are often dirty cause they to
iDrinkDrano
They try to include more people but don't do a great job addressing the problems. Plus theres a correlation between pop density and being
botlaw
Rampant homelessness and plastic bag ban. Homeless used to poop in bags and throw them away, now they got no more bags.
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
I didn't realize how the plastic bags issue had impacted that, I thought it was also largely that there are no public bathrooms available
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
and businesses only allow paying customers to use their restrooms
Diggitydigdigs
Not sure I buy that. There are public toilets every couple of blocks downtown. You have a source/article explaining that?
QuackQuackAttack
Homeless are concentrated in the mission, Tloin. Maybe not so much Poo downtown, but every other area on the Bay side is poo heaven.
stonecw
SF Bay Area local here (worked in SF) - in some streets of the Mission District and SOMA, the piles are everywhere; no public toilets there.
stonecw
Can confirm.
Elonth
and let me guess. San fransico human decency laws prevent homeless people from going into restaurants and businesses to use the restrooms?
ooyorkoo
There is a ban in single use plastic bags but when I worked at a Safeway we still sold multiuse bags 1/2
ooyorkoo
The real problem is that bathrooms that might have been able to be used are now under lock and key. This is because ether would be 1/?
ooyorkoo
Destroyed the bathrooms.
christmasboii7
you really think the people in the tenderloin used to shit in plastic bags? also -- not sure about this ban. plastic bags STILL EXIST here
christmasboii7
plastic straws are def gone. but you can still get plastic bags from anywhere you can imagine
unitedstateoftexas
But why are they homeless?
JesusHCoxMD
Because the rent/ cost to buy a home in that city is absurdly high. A lot of homeless have jobs but can’t make enough to afford it
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
SF homelessness is a bit different than what you associate with homelessness. Lots of people could easily get a job/housing. They just 1/2
HighFunctioningAlcoholic
2/2 choose not to.
ratfinkfuck
Surely there are homeless almost everywhere in the US? I obv. can't know for certain, but this doesn't seem like it would explain it fully.
beian
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/19/us/san-francisco-homeless-count.html
beian
And in areas with high homeless populations, bathrooms are likely to be severely restricted.
beian
In downtown Denver, the stupid Starbucks won't even let paying customers use their bathroom. Employees only.
spiffylookingnerfherder
They gravitate to where it's safe and the climate is mild. The city provides services, for a number of reasons, and the cycle continues.
KleptoKea
Why doesn't your country offer free public toilets? Isn't that the logical and compassionate thing to do?
ishotjfktwice
They do
whiskeyvillage
Get out of here with your other country type of logical thinking.. USA will have NONE OF THAT !! ;)
TheClockWatcher
The issue is you either have poop filled streets or junky and needle filled public bathrooms
venalpha
was already tried
cuddlesdotgif
Lol this guy, ‘logical and compassionate’
KleptoKea
yeah it's something that is commonly practiced in countries like mine. If we had no public toilets in a town, politicians' heads would roll.
whiskeyvillage
With such high taxes that are paid the city could afford public restrooms. OR a shit-ton more than they have. <-- see what I did there?
EverydayIsGainsDay
If they are going to poop outside anyways just make them open air toilets.
BobKhan
Half wall stalls under a pavilion structure. Privacy where it matters, but not so private that illegal activities can occur.
woobniggurath
At what point was America last associated with “logical” and “ compassionate”?
KleptoKea
before 2016, I presumed
schneeeman
Is it really that bad? I was thinking about moving there for a job
Predicto
No, it;s not that bad. This is a right wing meme
Lunardenizen
If you make $72k a year in SF you’re still eligible for food stamps
beccerz777
Been there a few times years ago, wasn't great, heard it's gotten worse
FractalChainsaw
Local here: Depends on the neighborhood, generally better the farther west you go. Sunset is pretty great. Awesome restaurants.
hogeyegrex
Shhhh. Don’t tell them. Just say “Yes. It is all full of the poops. There is nowhere safe from the poops. Do not move to SF.”
FractalChainsaw
Oh right, my bad! The poops are all encompassing. Do not approach the poops. I have seventeen roommates and rent is one kidney per week.
s1yb00ts
I moved here 2 years ago. seen human poop on the street 3 times. (I work in financial district) if you make less than 80 a year it’s hard
spiffylookingnerfherder
Only if you're being offered serious money. I love it but I wouldn't live here if my friends and career weren't tied to the region.
SPQAAE
Yes it is bad.
dipdapdeepdupdoh
Yep it’s that bad
flufflesaysmeow
It is and it isn’t. Live in SF and there are still some areas that are relatively unblemished by the poop blight. But it is expensive here
Thelegaldeagle
I’m british - lived there for 5 years. It’s a lovely city. I adored it. Cost of living is expensive in general. Homelessness is v bad, tho.
squirreltactics
DON'T. I have a friend that works in IT and he lived there for a while. Paid really well but still struggled. He moved back and lives like
squirreltactics
a king as he now owns property and has plenty of fuck you money too.
xxirish83x
the have toilets on trailers for the real problem areas.
cosmosHiggsBison
Nah man, not bad at all. The shit factor shouldn’t even be a factor (Republican narrative) Consider cost of living, rent prices, high salary
Lagunitas707
Not its not that bad. I live 30 miles north of SF. SF is like any major city. If you have questions, send me a DM I'll answer truthfully
hip2bsquare
Yes. It really is that bad.
Saustino
Why the fuck would you ever move to SF? Even a job paying 100k is lower middle class there. Portland, OR and Seattle, WA are almost as bad.
IlluminaBlade
no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
Fuckme721
Hahaha, funny. Please do not. If you value your financial sanity that is.
somethingsomethingwittyhere
Pack your own poop bags.
burneraccountsoidontusemyrealone
The cost of living was so insane, I took a job making half as much in North Carolina yet my bills are so much less that it's worth it.
Butane9000
Years ago I was a department manager making 42K a year. Got offered a district position at $60K but I'd have to live in California.
Butane9000
Only took some simple math for me to realize it wasn't worth it. Combined with the M-F travel and only being home Sat & Sun.
TDJellyman
Then you can be like most, move there live in your car for a year cause it’s too expensive then move to Reno to escape California.
F242
If you can afford to pay at least 5,000 for a flat in a relatively short distance from down town...go for it(that included your own hobo )
RRRIV
Yea. I remember a hair stylist had to close shop because the homeless and their feces was keeping her regulars away.
schneeeman
Oh boy
stonecw
I live in the SF Bay area; housing costs are the highest in the nation. Make sure the job pays REALLY well or allows telecommuting.
TheUnholyGuacamole
Don’t do it man ! Do cost of living analysis, compare Nashville TN or Indianapolis IN and you’ll never look back.
LumpySpacePants
Nashville is full, sorry.
TheUnholyGuacamole
Hendersonville is still nice
QuackQuackAttack
Unless you’re making six figures (and if you are, you’ll still barely get by) don’t bother. It’s a dump. Pretty from afar, close up nasty
NakedGalaxy
I've only been there once but I would not go back. The people there are so rude, maybe because they all seem stressed to the limit.
cosmosHiggsBison
Fuck you bitch, we are not rude! You are stressed out!
Butane9000
Don't. You likely won't be able to afford a house. That or buy an RV and live out of that.
drainbamage1011
Cost of living is the killer. My friend's brother lived there for a couple years and 4 of them were living in a 1-bedroom apartment.
grimwyrd
I stepped from sidewalk into traffic to avoid pigeons with deformed feet eating the chunks out of an unconscious person's vomit lake...
Thelegaldeagle
I used to work on California and Front and there was a homeless lady who looked like a witch from Left 4 Dead that used to scream at you.
ElberGarrica
holy crap
DiscountMentat
Slytherwin
DONT DO IT. WHOLE FAMILY IS FROM THERE. ITS A TRAP. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
schneeeman
How about oakland, emeryville? Are they in the same situation?
ZombieMorpheus
Just left the bay area. I was making $23 an hour and couldnt afford my own place. A studio appartment was going for $1500-$2000 in San Mat/1
stonecw
Not in terms of feces, but the homeless encampments are everywhere. Oakland has a list of over 1,000 sites that need to be cleaned up.
jdsmilez
Emeryville and Oakland are swamped by camps and entire streets that are lined up with old RVs and vans where homeless people live out of.
EMTMarv
Its still expensive as fuck in Oakland and the whole bay area...
bagoffishstix
Whole SF bay area is a trap. Expensive any direction you go
SteadyMobbin69
Huge dookie piles all over Berkley.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
I have friends who live there, they make $75,000 to $150,000 a year and have to have roomates. Cost of living/ housing is INSANE there.
mckenna310
HOLY
Ozarck
This explains why banks thought my student loans would be manageable. They were averaging me with someone making money in san fransisco.
QuackQuackAttack
The people in SF are much worse off. They make 1.5x money, and pay 4x in rent.
capefling
They should consider the feces removal business.
QuiveringCheese
Quit ignoring the problem people are starving.
FractalChainsaw
Good sushi though.
musesf80
I live in SF and while it is expensive you can get a place on your own for ~$2500. If you can’t live on $150k that’s poor budgeting.
joinusjoinusjoinus
Roommates or housemates? I have my own room at only $30k a year (I’m part time due to school—so I’ve got those school loans too lol)
CityYeti
I'd love to live there, but there's too much bad that outweighs the good
SteadyMobbin69
Too much shit
SpazzyP
Had a friend move from Cali to TN says he lives better and saves more.
aDapperBear
Yay TN. We have family that did the same thing. All around Memphis into MS and AR are really affordable. Especially coming from Cali
Somebodywithamindoftheirown
make sure he doesn't vote democrat to ruin that state as well.