Apr 29, 2019 7:48 AM
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simplyTenacious
i locked myself in the bathroom to watch ot in total darkness. wasnt hLf bad
JackHarknessNerdySidekick
Saving on that special effects budget
stehenallein
As someone with a several thousand dollar DLP projector, and a degree in cinematography, the color balancing and lighting was awful.
usernamescausebias
I have a hunch that everyone in the comments below saying "I could see fine" needs glasses and thinks it's normal to see like that.
themerman
I had absolutely no problem seeing what was going on. The darkness contributed to the overall mood of the episode.
nicoleoftheeast
I thought the dark was scary
incognitoboyscout
Looked fucking excellent on a OLED 8K screen
proracing53
"NSFW"
Fahargo
um source
clytemnestra13
Emilia Clarke GQ photoshoot
Chapitas
Just use VLC player and go to Tools then Effect and Filter, then Video Effects and turn on Image adjust and give brightness more juice.
thetwistedstars
I mean, sucks for you guys but I have a projector and black out blinds so it was perfect for me.
mydadhasaharrypotter
Same here, but it was still too dark in a lot of scenes. Oh well, we’ll just have to watch it again!
repostal
You know how to do it. Basement theater no issues. v
Krystoking
The only thing I saw was plot armor. My god the plot armor...
iwishiwasazula
Yep. Heart pound but at least 5 more characters should of bit the dust.
iLikeTurtlesAndPizza
Vahlnir
Sounds like a TV problem to me. I have a KS8000 and saw scenes fine.
LumTheMadMan
Sucks your getting downvoted all because people dont want to admit they have shitty TVs / ISPs / streaming issues
drmuelr
Scenes shouldn't be composed in ways that *require* the viewer to have maximal quality video to even see what's happening.
imsmallfry
Swear to fucking christ its so true, one of the reasons I hate watching it
BugEyedLemur
They did what they said they were going to do. Also, that's battle. It left me on the edge of my seat because I literally couldn't see 1/2
2 who was who or what was what sometimes, just like how an actual night time battle would be. I'm glad they did it the way they did.
sunfield
That was fine for the tention in the beginning. I enjoyed it, too. Then it become annoying as far as story telling goes.
ThisGuyCraigy
Don’t get it at all I could see everything clearly, the problem is with the television not been setup properly or it’s a poor quality TV.
FeedMeMemeSeymour
"Bitch bitch could see bitch"
ambina79
I thought the darkness helped make you feel like you were there with them. I thought it was great.
WendyCarlson
DARK
Poopiusbutticus
Am I the only one who didnt see shit and thought the entire battle scene was anti-climactic because I didnt know wtf was going on?
No, HBO Nordic here and it was bad. Not only dark bad, but poor quality dark grainy bad. (I did like the episode, though.)
Kasai
The pirated versions were much darker than the HBO streams.
thisisagoldfish
Can confirm. I signed back up for hbo after I couldn’t see anything on streams. It was a little better
BednaR
I had an HBO stream and it was absolutely crap
yumyums
Certain parts were a bit too dark, otherwise so many people wouldn’t be saying the same thing
QuietAsADemonsWhisper
It's 2019, we have been able to see in the night for some time now. The Battle for Winterfell was annoying AF.
PwnageHobo
To be fair, they've been telling us what to expect since Season 1. The night is dark and full of terrors
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
And it's TV so some compromises have to be made for the sake of viewers. I like the artistry--but I think this will be less re-watched.
MyFirstTwoChoicesWereTaken
Bad cinematography is dark and full of terrors.
LoquaciousDude
Always see if you can turn on theater mode or something, we do on our tv and it helps loads
CrisisRedditor
Still no excuse for making us all think we've gone largely blind.
HeroVader
*And full of errors
Perizene
Season 2
Yeah, I wasn't sure. It was all so long ago.
GameovermanGameover1
To be faaaiiiirrrrr.
Tak231
Tooo beee faair
BangusDangus
RonnieKielbasa
SigPistols
I understood that reference, and that's what I's appreciates about ya
androopy
Is that what you appreciates about me?
v
SennenGoroshi
When Dumbledore took the Night King into Mount Doom, I knew the battle with the Time Lords would be over soon.
PlanePineapple
Didn't get to watch it yet, did Mario save the princess or was she in another castle?
No, Samus intervened
disc0chimp
I saw everything perfectly fine, y'all are crazy.
Raven2311
Same here, just finished, put it on dynamic and closed the blinds and it was fine.
girlsdontp00p
aumniverse
Honestly the chaos, the darkness, and the blizzard added to the atmosphere that they were completely fucked. I liked it.
At first yes. Then it got tyrig...and then annoying. Poor balance to save CGI budget. They tried to take on a cinematic battle with TV money
1lamastar
I turned night mode off and the brightness on my monitor way up and still could barely see anything.
aliendepict
You need hdr my Sony handled it fine
Iputthebestinbestiality
On my TV it's actually back light I needed to get up
Elonth
i streamed it on 480p because i was sick of waiting for my download... it was nice watching the shades of black change.
MarcoPoloOnPollo
On an LED TV, turning up the brightness could actually make it worse because of the backlight. Use theater or normal mode.
Yeah check your settings, I turned theater mode on my tv, made a huge difference
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Only the first 10-20 minutes tho right?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Watched it in an almost completely dark room. No issues here.
kakivara
That's crazy it's almost like they filmed it to be dark.
Obietrice
I had no problem seeing anything.
I'm so sorry. I hope that your severe eyesight problems can be healed.
Thank you Ray Charles
beardeddrummer
Same here.
supersmashmother
Same
PolaroidDickPics
Oled TV's are amazing
judaserebus
I've been commenting the same thing on all these memes. Our OLED was perfect for that. But my Asus 34" ROG just did well on 2nd watch.
Smayds
Yeah, I don't get the complaints. It was dark as heck, but I could still see everything clearly. We were in a completely dark lounge though.
Lokithebeing
Lol how else are you suppose to watch GOT??
3500 led lights on full blast with popsicles...duh
NotaCPA
We are rewatching because of this. Dark room. TV set correctly. Popcorn
TatooineNomad
This is a meme in the original sense (not a funny pic). It wasn’t unusually dark. But everyone says it was, so everybody believes it.
Why, gosh darn. You're completely correct. Mandala effect? Berenstien Bears?!
MrGato
I watched it. It was dark. I was in a dark room at 9pm with proper settings. Maybe it was a stream issue but what I saw was dark
lollercycle
people are so stupid, night siege in a blizzard full of zombies? WHERE IS MY HEAVY RIM LIGHTING????
Night siege in a rainstorm with 10000 urukhai? Oh look we can see fine. It’s called blue lighting
that is not a good comparison, imo the atmo in the lotr/hobbit scenes feel super cartoony because of the digital and lighting effects.
You realize the original lotr trilogy was like almost 100% practical effects right?
you do realize that has nothing to do with lighting effects which were used HEAVILY in all the lotr movies.
ButtholeIceCreamParlor
Is that your real name?
upsidedownmeloncake
No gimmicks
Two trailer park girls go round the outside
Stinkdog
Round the outside, round the outside, round the outside.....
Snaggley
Cheaper to cgi fog than a ton of people.
lawideas
I don't think budget is an issue for them.
YellowGod
Then i think we should address the elefant in the room... or lack of it.
Izzdelp
This deserves more upvotes
JokeDestroyer
The budget is a ghost of what it should be.
CarbonCello
This is such an underrated comment ?
TheNameIWantedWasntAvailable
I mean, it was a night battle. What did people expect? The darkness added to the tension.
[deleted]
7.20
Deadpoolio7
Helm’s Deep dark
FlyhumpyElephunky
But helms deep 'recorded on an era appropriate phone in the theater' quality
Radix865
In the dragon fight you couldn't even tell which one it was until they breathed fire...
IndyAndyJones
I expected some professional lighting. Instead of just seeing a little bit only when some crew member was texting.
JohnMorbid
Lol People still defend that shit
SlothsareBoss
I agree. I liked it because it displayed the fog of war. It made it more chaotic and hopeless. More realistic in my opinion.
Looked fucking excellent on a OLED 8K tv
BurtMacklinYouSOB
Just because it’s realistic doesn’t mean it makes for a good direction/production on tv for viewers.
Amen to that!!!
DVSBSTrD
No it didn't, it just added to the annoyance.
thedelicatesnowflake
Something that would not make me consider going to do something else instead. This is not how you do an immersion
NotErichHartmann
Why are you trying to excuse terrible cinematography?
scoundr3l
This was not the first night battle
DustBunny99
Battle of the blackwater was at night to reduce the number of visible soldiers to save money
Yeah, I suspect this (and the fog) was for a similar reason, although I've heard it was also a streaming issue not everyone experienced.
Just because it is a night battle doesn't need to mean it has to be an audiobook
dragonsarelife
LoTR did it just fine
drainbamage1011
It was cool in the beginning for atmosphere, especially when the Dothraki just disappeared into the dark. Then it just got to be a...
...pain in the ass when you couldn't even follow who was attacking who.
buttscommasteve
Whom*
Oh, sorry: "you couldn't even follow who was whom who."
Bricklemeyer
I agree that the opening was very tense, but wouldn't it have made more sense for them to light fires on the battlefield? Why would they-
want to fight in the dark?
Agreed. Thought they'd have the whole place lit up so they didnt have to charge into darkness
Rasdwatrium
The dead attacked the living, what is so complicated about that?
Yeah, I caught that. I meant figuring out where particular characters were supposed to be amidst the chaos.
thorkild91
Idk. I feel like the in the dark with flashes of what’s going on was pretty accurate to what fighting in the battle would have been like
dunno, hadn't that problem. I had more issues with how despite they were literally overwhelmed they still survived, Jamie, Brienne etc.
Made it more realistic
TankDrop
I don't really look for realism that impedes my vision of the scenes where zombies are fighting dragons
simplyTenacious
i locked myself in the bathroom to watch ot in total darkness. wasnt hLf bad
JackHarknessNerdySidekick
Saving on that special effects budget
stehenallein
As someone with a several thousand dollar DLP projector, and a degree in cinematography, the color balancing and lighting was awful.
usernamescausebias
I have a hunch that everyone in the comments below saying "I could see fine" needs glasses and thinks it's normal to see like that.
themerman
I had absolutely no problem seeing what was going on. The darkness contributed to the overall mood of the episode.
nicoleoftheeast
I thought the dark was scary
incognitoboyscout
Looked fucking excellent on a OLED 8K screen
proracing53
"NSFW"
Fahargo
um source
clytemnestra13
Emilia Clarke GQ photoshoot
Chapitas
Just use VLC player and go to Tools then Effect and Filter, then Video Effects and turn on Image adjust and give brightness more juice.
thetwistedstars
I mean, sucks for you guys but I have a projector and black out blinds so it was perfect for me.
mydadhasaharrypotter
Same here, but it was still too dark in a lot of scenes. Oh well, we’ll just have to watch it again!
repostal
You know how to do it. Basement theater no issues.
v
Krystoking
The only thing I saw was plot armor. My god the plot armor...
iwishiwasazula
Yep. Heart pound but at least 5 more characters should of bit the dust.
iLikeTurtlesAndPizza
Vahlnir
Sounds like a TV problem to me. I have a KS8000 and saw scenes fine.
LumTheMadMan
Sucks your getting downvoted all because people dont want to admit they have shitty TVs / ISPs / streaming issues
drmuelr
Scenes shouldn't be composed in ways that *require* the viewer to have maximal quality video to even see what's happening.
imsmallfry
Swear to fucking christ its so true, one of the reasons I hate watching it
BugEyedLemur
They did what they said they were going to do. Also, that's battle. It left me on the edge of my seat because I literally couldn't see 1/2
BugEyedLemur
2 who was who or what was what sometimes, just like how an actual night time battle would be. I'm glad they did it the way they did.
sunfield
That was fine for the tention in the beginning. I enjoyed it, too. Then it become annoying as far as story telling goes.
ThisGuyCraigy
Don’t get it at all I could see everything clearly, the problem is with the television not been setup properly or it’s a poor quality TV.
FeedMeMemeSeymour
"Bitch bitch could see bitch"
ambina79
I thought the darkness helped make you feel like you were there with them. I thought it was great.
WendyCarlson
DARK
Poopiusbutticus
Am I the only one who didnt see shit and thought the entire battle scene was anti-climactic because I didnt know wtf was going on?
sunfield
No, HBO Nordic here and it was bad. Not only dark bad, but poor quality dark grainy bad. (I did like the episode, though.)
Kasai
The pirated versions were much darker than the HBO streams.
thisisagoldfish
Can confirm. I signed back up for hbo after I couldn’t see anything on streams. It was a little better
BednaR
I had an HBO stream and it was absolutely crap
yumyums
Certain parts were a bit too dark, otherwise so many people wouldn’t be saying the same thing
QuietAsADemonsWhisper
It's 2019, we have been able to see in the night for some time now. The Battle for Winterfell was annoying AF.
PwnageHobo
To be fair, they've been telling us what to expect since Season 1. The night is dark and full of terrors
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
And it's TV so some compromises have to be made for the sake of viewers. I like the artistry--but I think this will be less re-watched.
MyFirstTwoChoicesWereTaken
Bad cinematography is dark and full of terrors.
LoquaciousDude
Always see if you can turn on theater mode or something, we do on our tv and it helps loads
CrisisRedditor
Still no excuse for making us all think we've gone largely blind.
HeroVader
*And full of errors
Perizene
Season 2
PwnageHobo
Yeah, I wasn't sure. It was all so long ago.
GameovermanGameover1
To be faaaiiiirrrrr.
Tak231
Tooo beee faair
BangusDangus
RonnieKielbasa
SigPistols
I understood that reference, and that's what I's appreciates about ya
androopy
Is that what you appreciates about me?
SigPistols
SennenGoroshi
When Dumbledore took the Night King into Mount Doom, I knew the battle with the Time Lords would be over soon.
PlanePineapple
Didn't get to watch it yet, did Mario save the princess or was she in another castle?
SennenGoroshi
No, Samus intervened
disc0chimp
I saw everything perfectly fine, y'all are crazy.
Raven2311
Same here, just finished, put it on dynamic and closed the blinds and it was fine.
girlsdontp00p
aumniverse
Honestly the chaos, the darkness, and the blizzard added to the atmosphere that they were completely fucked. I liked it.
BednaR
At first yes. Then it got tyrig...and then annoying. Poor balance to save CGI budget. They tried to take on a cinematic battle with TV money
1lamastar
I turned night mode off and the brightness on my monitor way up and still could barely see anything.
aliendepict
You need hdr my Sony handled it fine
Iputthebestinbestiality
On my TV it's actually back light I needed to get up
Elonth
i streamed it on 480p because i was sick of waiting for my download... it was nice watching the shades of black change.
MarcoPoloOnPollo
On an LED TV, turning up the brightness could actually make it worse because of the backlight. Use theater or normal mode.
LoquaciousDude
Yeah check your settings, I turned theater mode on my tv, made a huge difference
NotABadLookingNarcissist
Only the first 10-20 minutes tho right?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Watched it in an almost completely dark room. No issues here.
kakivara
That's crazy it's almost like they filmed it to be dark.
Obietrice
I had no problem seeing anything.
ThisNeedsMoreBoobs
I'm so sorry. I hope that your severe eyesight problems can be healed.
PlanePineapple
Thank you Ray Charles
beardeddrummer
Same here.
supersmashmother
Same
PolaroidDickPics
Oled TV's are amazing
judaserebus
I've been commenting the same thing on all these memes. Our OLED was perfect for that. But my Asus 34" ROG just did well on 2nd watch.
LoquaciousDude
Yeah check your settings, I turned theater mode on my tv, made a huge difference
Smayds
Yeah, I don't get the complaints. It was dark as heck, but I could still see everything clearly. We were in a completely dark lounge though.
Lokithebeing
Lol how else are you suppose to watch GOT??
Obietrice
3500 led lights on full blast with popsicles...duh
NotaCPA
We are rewatching because of this. Dark room. TV set correctly. Popcorn
TatooineNomad
This is a meme in the original sense (not a funny pic). It wasn’t unusually dark. But everyone says it was, so everybody believes it.
Smayds
Why, gosh darn. You're completely correct. Mandala effect? Berenstien Bears?!
MrGato
I watched it. It was dark. I was in a dark room at 9pm with proper settings. Maybe it was a stream issue but what I saw was dark
lollercycle
people are so stupid, night siege in a blizzard full of zombies? WHERE IS MY HEAVY RIM LIGHTING????
MrGato
Night siege in a rainstorm with 10000 urukhai? Oh look we can see fine. It’s called blue lighting
lollercycle
that is not a good comparison, imo the atmo in the lotr/hobbit scenes feel super cartoony because of the digital and lighting effects.
MrGato
You realize the original lotr trilogy was like almost 100% practical effects right?
lollercycle
you do realize that has nothing to do with lighting effects which were used HEAVILY in all the lotr movies.
ButtholeIceCreamParlor
Is that your real name?
upsidedownmeloncake
No gimmicks
ButtholeIceCreamParlor
Two trailer park girls go round the outside
Stinkdog
Round the outside, round the outside, round the outside.....
Snaggley
Cheaper to cgi fog than a ton of people.
lawideas
I don't think budget is an issue for them.
YellowGod
Then i think we should address the elefant in the room... or lack of it.
Izzdelp
This deserves more upvotes
JokeDestroyer
The budget is a ghost of what it should be.
CarbonCello
This is such an underrated comment ?
TheNameIWantedWasntAvailable
I mean, it was a night battle. What did people expect? The darkness added to the tension.
[deleted]
[deleted]
BednaR
7.20
Deadpoolio7
Helm’s Deep dark
FlyhumpyElephunky
But helms deep 'recorded on an era appropriate phone in the theater' quality
Radix865
In the dragon fight you couldn't even tell which one it was until they breathed fire...
IndyAndyJones
I expected some professional lighting. Instead of just seeing a little bit only when some crew member was texting.
JohnMorbid
Lol People still defend that shit
SlothsareBoss
I agree. I liked it because it displayed the fog of war. It made it more chaotic and hopeless. More realistic in my opinion.
incognitoboyscout
Looked fucking excellent on a OLED 8K tv
BurtMacklinYouSOB
Just because it’s realistic doesn’t mean it makes for a good direction/production on tv for viewers.
Chapitas
Amen to that!!!
DVSBSTrD
No it didn't, it just added to the annoyance.
thedelicatesnowflake
Something that would not make me consider going to do something else instead. This is not how you do an immersion
NotErichHartmann
Why are you trying to excuse terrible cinematography?
scoundr3l
This was not the first night battle
DustBunny99
Battle of the blackwater was at night to reduce the number of visible soldiers to save money
scoundr3l
Yeah, I suspect this (and the fog) was for a similar reason, although I've heard it was also a streaming issue not everyone experienced.
HeroVader
Just because it is a night battle doesn't need to mean it has to be an audiobook
dragonsarelife
LoTR did it just fine
drainbamage1011
It was cool in the beginning for atmosphere, especially when the Dothraki just disappeared into the dark. Then it just got to be a...
drainbamage1011
...pain in the ass when you couldn't even follow who was attacking who.
buttscommasteve
Whom*
drainbamage1011
Oh, sorry: "you couldn't even follow who was whom who."
Bricklemeyer
I agree that the opening was very tense, but wouldn't it have made more sense for them to light fires on the battlefield? Why would they-
Bricklemeyer
want to fight in the dark?
FlyhumpyElephunky
Agreed. Thought they'd have the whole place lit up so they didnt have to charge into darkness
Rasdwatrium
The dead attacked the living, what is so complicated about that?
drainbamage1011
Yeah, I caught that. I meant figuring out where particular characters were supposed to be amidst the chaos.
thorkild91
Idk. I feel like the in the dark with flashes of what’s going on was pretty accurate to what fighting in the battle would have been like
Rasdwatrium
dunno, hadn't that problem. I had more issues with how despite they were literally overwhelmed they still survived, Jamie, Brienne etc.
DustBunny99
Made it more realistic
TankDrop
I don't really look for realism that impedes my vision of the scenes where zombies are fighting dragons