All 11 swing states had statistical impossibilities in down ballet voting. Every other state was in the perfectly normal range. He didn’t win all the swing states. A cheater always cheats.
The GOP is held together by a thread and I doubt Trump will make it the 4 years. I hate the idea of a national funeral but there is going to be a power vacuum left behind that will have every MAGA politician grabbing at straws. Even with the best healthcare the nation can afford, he is already showing Sundown Syndrome which is a classification of Dementia and Alzheimer's which his dad died from.
His behaviors get worse around sunset or sundown and can include wondering, violence, insomnia, yelling, sadness, anxiety, fear, agitation, restlessness, irritability, confusion, paranoia, delusions and hallucinations. We already know he has insomnia. Just look at his Truth Social posting times. 3am, 4am with long winded rants and accusations.
I can't say what Kamala would have brought upon the country, but it would probably be better than what this orange turd is doing, my wife and I work for our state government and she just got notified that she may be move positions due to no funding for her department, and may have a pay decrease as well.
The absolute truth of that has gutted my American heart to its core. I cannot deny that my fellow Americans put this Russian asset BACK in the WH. It sickens me every day. Worse: there’s NOTHING I can do about it. March/Protest? Yes. Write my Congressman? Check. Has it made a difference? Not one scintilla. We are a country of mostly Trumps, and I feel like I don’t belong here anymore.
Don't give up, whatever you do, never give up hope. I'm 75 and I've never seen anything like this before, not even in the darkest days of the anti-Vietnam protests. We can't stop, stop and they win, we cannot allow that to happen. I don't expect to live through this time. I want people to have a better life after it, but we gotta fight now and keep fighting.
He got less than 50% of the vote (49.8% vs. 48.3%). America is a very independent population country. Too many people never learned empathy and don't care about things unless it affects them.
In fairness, it's been shown on multiple occasions that certain news outlets like to color-shift images of him to make him look more orange than he really does.
I am in no way a supporter of this terrible, awful man, but did want to comment (because you've been down-voted) that this does happen! Not just to Trump, and not by just one or a few news/tabloid sources (regardless of political alignment). It's very common for the media to photo edit, for example, to make someone look more red/flushed/embarrassed, to make someone look more pale, etc.
Looks to be color settings on the TV, just look at the contrast between red and white in the lower info banner. Same channel on both TVs would look just as different.
Imagine going through all the rigorous training to be a secret service agent, and then fucking Trump gets elected and you're expected to potentially take a bullet for America's stupidest man-baby.
Don’t they love him though? Source: secret service deleting texts during Jan 6 because they knew the penalty for deleting evidence is less than whatever crimes the texts were about.
Sounds like a better option at this point. If you're not fully drinking the MAGA Kool Aid I think you'd probably want to jump off a bridge if you were forced to have to listen to him for any length of time.
Comparatively? Oh yeah. For sure. But generally speaking, your contenders/options are usually the worst people. Best you can hope for is status quo, with hidden oligarchs. Downvote away. It doesn't make me wrong.
*Before anyone says what about Bernie? Yes. He's a good person. And would fix a lot of your ailments. That's why they made sure he didn't get the nomination.
How would he fix it? Last checked congress isn't progressive, thus there's like 2(him being 1) out and out progressives and a handful of progressive leaning allied senators and less than a hundred progressives seated in the fed, and was mostly maga up through biden. Biden couldn't get moderate policy through, and things he tried to eo were constantly blocked by the courts.
Well what were we supposed to do? Vote the issues? Consider their relative competence? Not shove our heads up our asses? Do you hear how ridiculous you sound?
What a buffoon. Everyone living in America today will be ridiculed by future generations globally, because we allowed this face painted clown to infect the White House.
Optimistic of you to think there will be future generations of Americans and not simply new, white immigrants to replace all the dead U.S.-born persons
Ridiculed is the best Option. The USA wasnt everybodys darling before trump either but now... lets say it like this: the atrocities of the Nazis have forever changed the path of germany. The rubble from the destruction can still be found in the foundations of buildings. I think Trump has permanently damaged the US. On the other hand what germany has become after the Nazis is remarkable and maybe the US will experience something similar after Trump.
Well, yeah, but a lot of them are dealing with their own stupid little fascists too now, so there's some context... a hundred years from now when someone is reading a holographic textbook and they see a photo of that asshole with his clown makeup on, scowling blankly as he shits his diaper, they are going to really, really be like "what a bunch of assholes to think this guy was even sentient..."
Well, that's an entirely different subject... possibly the sentient cockroaches will be combing through the debris and come across records of this and they'll be the ones judging our folly.
Good. America needed to get it's tentacles out of everyone elses affairs anyway. Now we got China, South Korea and Japan partnering and the EU partnering with China as well. Nation Building Trump baby, just not for America.
And then then pointed a fan at the shredded remains of the balls so the microplastics got scattered to the wind and now we all have all sorts of complications from it.
You did that a long time before last election tho... Really you did that in the 70s,and everything since has just been the Niemoller poem playing out again..
If Kamala had been a white man, she still would have lost. She would have lost by less, but still lost. Democrats ran the same centrist campaign 3 times in a row for Loss > Barely Won > Bigger Loss. I will not be surprised when they try it a 4th time.
Inflation. Prices. That's why Biden lost. republicans successfully blamed Biden while large corporation were racking up record profits, but somehow that was Biden's fault. And Wall Street blamed Biden because the Biden economic recovery plan "over-heated" the economy; but you didn't hear one peep from wall street about trump over-heating the economy, even though trump signed TWO bills that pumped $$$$ into the economy.
trump has said multiple times that he wouldn't have won if it weren't for the election being rigged. That, plus all the voter suppression that occurred in 2023-2024.
Until the public decides to hold republicans accountable for their corruption and incompetence, nothing the democrats do is going to matter. Any progress they make will be undone, and the public will blame them for not doing it hard enough. They did it with Roe. Women lost their own bodily autonomy, and the public’s response was to blame Dems for not codifying it. When it’s literally the Supreme Court’s job to declare laws unconstitutional. The mind reels.
Bullshit. An 80 year old man and a half wit replacement is all the Democrats could offer? There were and are plenty of other candidates. Time to face facts. The economy and immigration lost that battle.
In my opinion they lost because they kept ignoring the people needs. Bernie said the same thing. Instead of solving problems she was trying to copy trump saying she will be much harsher on border.
She kept saying how they will support Israel with no exception. Continue all Biden's plans. She didn't even go to Rogan....like no fan of his but he is the biggest podcast and trump went through all of them. I think it is noone fault but the democratic party, 1/2
To me it seems, she was trying to get hog voters while ignoring her actual voters who ultimately decided that they are not going to vote for her. Like at least send waltz to Rogan. Rogan would have voted for Kamala after that. If waltz comes in who is an old school down to earth guy who knows his around the farm. Rogan would have fallen in love.
Instead trump went on all the podcasts and acted human even talking about cocaine on Theo Von. The democratic party needs to do smth. Bernie is 1/2
Propping up aoc. They doing anti oligarchy rallies. What are the genocide Joe democrats doing? I don't think there is a big difference between democrats and republicans right now. Bernie even talking running independent because the democrats are ass right now. A bunch of rich loving bitches. Stop this shit. I don't think she lost because she was black and a woman. I think she lost cause she had no conviction and just copied Biden. 2/3
Im just waiting on 2028 when Bernie will start a civil war with AOC at the helm to stop Trump from destroying democracy and staying president forever. While democrats are gonna sit around with their thumb inside their ass.
I'm the optimistic type, i think they hate black people, and women, and also want to 'own the libs' and also wanted cheaper eggs, also figured Trump would be better for Palestine, also though a "businessman" could run a country better.
She definitely seemed stronger than Biden in regards to getting stuff done. He was in progress to getting things better after trump so her continuing it seemed pretty good. Unfortunately some men just don’t want a woman in charge. I might be bias due to my wife being one of those types of go getters, but I can see her actually doing something. I had hope for her
I have not met any women who said that, and further all my friends --- men and women--- and close family members, all voted for Kamala. Many of these myself included wanted Bernie but still voted Kamala cause rump is objectively far worse.
Internalized misogyny is a real bitch. Maybe Christian women are raised to believe they're only ever supposed to be side characters in their husband's lives. It's how I was raised
I heard “I just don’t like her laugh” way too much last year. Republicans overturned ROE and women couldn’t be bothered to vote for their own autonomy. It’s Stockholm Syndrome on a national scale.
That laugh thing was a super bizarre bit of cognitive warfare, not as clever as couch fucker, which has to be one of the best ever, hall of fame, but still insane that "but her laugh" worked almost as well as "but her emails."
Had one, here in ohio atleast, just noone to reasonably run against biden so opposition candidates withdrew after first states went overwhelmingly for the incumbent(shocker there.) Even bernie didn't chance the 3peat and risk losing even more voters. It was dumb and reactionary to pull biden.
You should listen to the people who ran the campaign on what they think. It might give you a better, more reasonable idea rather than this "it just be racism/sexism" take that you came up with on your own. https://youtu.be/ab-DDrGCdv0?si=rHrIBEOs0Ab12gHl
There are lots of factors, of course- but looking at the attitudes that are being shown publicly now with this shitty administration we've got, you can't convince me that her being woman wasn't an issue for some voters.
I think, just maybe, not listening to what their voter base was asking for and campaigning purely on not being Trump might have had something to do with it. Blue MAGA shouting down anyone who even had the slightest hesitation didn't help either.
Wasnt it 'blue maga' that were the ones telling everyone not to vote or protest-vote b/c of their dissatisfaction? All those leftists yelling at any liberal whod swallow their pride in order to stop obvious fascists?
No, people couldn't be bothered to vote against Nazis, it's that simple. Half the country are traitors and at least a third of what's left couldn't be bothered to vote in their own best interests against it.
Clinton was not better than Harris. Trump II was worse the second time around, and even someone less qualified than Clinton or Harris should have trounced Trump simply by not being Trump.
This is the truth right here. Dems don't give a shit about grassroots politics, then they get pissed when folks get turned down from their shitty candidates. They just perform the *aesthetics* of progress, the bare minimum, to pretend they're better. But this is the party that allows Synemas and Manchins to keep their seats, who turn down any meaningful policy, and pretend it's just the GOP being bad. And they want to blame everyone, taking zero responsibility.
You keep saying "should have" but you don't seem to realize that the head of lettuce that you thought was going to beat him, simply did not. Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college and you're still going on about what "should have" happened. You need to realign your beliefs with reality, because you're being delusional at this point. Just look around, you need to change your tactics because complaining about how they didn't work well fix nothing.
Fuck off with that nonsense. Even Bernie was like, vote against the Nazis, you can fix the rest later, but we have to stop them NOW, and at least a third of team blue just went no no, they must be the perfect candidate being willing to do every little thing. This election, and hell even the one before it, was about clawing back control and THEN fixing our issues. This is about people being so fucking full of themselves they cant even vote in their own literal best interests.
No, I fucking wouldn't because I have the mental capacity to understand that those things are not ok, but our country falling to Nazis is an even worse outcome. Your inability to understand something is not a defense against it.
She also ran a poor campaign for getting votes, it was exciting and hopeful and she showed more charisma and intelligence than had previously been widely demonstrated, but she didn't disown the horrible Gaza policy, or distance herself from the incredibly unpopular Biden administration really in any way - which was disastrous. Let alone make actual appeals on healthcare, rampant corporate profiteering, corruption etc. You know, the things voters care about.
First time voting blue and I was excited to vote for her because she wasn’t dump. I was raised republican but even I saw how vile dump was. She may have not ran the best campaign but she showed she was better. Those who didn’t vote for her were idiots
lmao, what? This wasn't orange man bad, this was LITERAL NAZIs, how fucking clueless can you be? And the media that's owned by the very people backing Trump and said Nazi's? You want THEM to report on the dangers? Holy fuck no wonder the US is where it is right now.
Nah, sorry I'm tired of deflecting all the blame to Democrats and constantly coddling the brainless minds of voters. There is nothing about Harris that was bad enough to not vote for her over the convicted felon rapist that tried to coup the government. Americans are just plain dumb, entitled, and lazy. It's that simple. Dems deserve some amount of blame for not figuring out the media environment to get these sheep out to the polls but the ultimate blame is on the impossible stupid electorate.
They deserve the lion's share of the blame, frankly. It's not about being out of touch, their leadership is catering to the same rich assholes, and still feel entitled to votes. They shut down popular candidates like Bernie. The electorate is stupid by design. They seriously shelved Tim Walz after he was killing it, he was more liked than Kamala. They had her cater to right wing anxieties, legitimizing them. Trump didn't win, the Dems lost. Didn't learn in 2016.
No, people like you didn't learn, that literal Nazis were taking power and we as the voters needed to stop them. FFS if you're bleeding out you don't treat the scrape on your knee first.
Why would you be accusing the people who agree with you? I'm not even American, but most leftists would agree the threat is bigger than the DNC itself, and actually voted for Kamala. The thing is, a lot of people didn't bote, and a lot of people don't vote in your elections. This was a failure by the Democratic party to provide a suitable candidate, as they've been doing since 2016. You can blame everyone you want, but the Dem party has been refusing their share of responsibility.
Dems still tried to deflect blame and ran interference blaming "the Left" for Kamala's defeat. Apparently, not powerful enough to win elections, but can cost the Dems a victory. Which means we should appeal more to right wingers!
I hope Bernie, AOC, Crockett and Omar steal their party from them. The DNC feels entitled to young votes, and they only need to stand for not hunting poor people for sport, but are available to make concessions on a point or two...
lol, the same Bernie that told you to vote for them? So we wouldn't fall into a Nazi regime? That same Bernie? Don't harp on his name if you're not gonna include the fact he fucking TOLD YOU what would happen if team blue lost this.
I’d say she lost because all the billionaires of the world had Trump’s back. Russian bots on social media. Musk basically donating the whole cost of a campaign, and turning all of Twitter into a Trump bugle. Murdoch with his Newscorp machine that runs pro Trump anti democrat propaganda 24/7 all across the world and calls it”news”. The dark money that bought up Trump’s stocks in his shitty Truth Social that gave him a few billion dollars. The poors got scammed by the Uber rich.
No, she lost because at least a third of team blue just didnt bother showing up, it's that simple. Some people chose to protest, or say she's not perfect, rather than vote against a literal Nazi regime. It's that simple, if you didn't vote, you voted for the Nazis.
No, it's not, because if the large portion of team blue had actually bothered to vote, we wouldn't be here. There was no scam, it was people literally not voting against Nazis.
I wonder what came first, the racism or the programming? My friend tells me how dumb Kamala is, yet she has a law degree and operates successfully at state and federal levels. But he drinks that Fox Newsaid with giggling Tucker Carlson calling her a low IQ DEI hire. I think if my friend could have just listened to the two debate policy in a clean cut space, he’d have likely voted for her because he is a generally reasonable, if overconfident, person. Billionaires program hate to control votes.
But don't underestimate pure sexism. I am a man myself but I see sexism everywhere, there are alot of people who just do not value women as equals (both men and women do this).
I have noticed myself with some anti male sexism (kinda) I need a quote done on my house and they are sending Jessica and my first thought was "good she will know what she is doing" because women do not just get positions like that without being good at it. Whereas some men are shit at the positions they are in.
IndiaGolfPk
In 2013, John Kerry famously said Americans have right to be stupid. So.....
DarkAthena
The Dipshit in Chief looks like he fell face first into shit. Must be from brown-nosing Putin.
RyanH42
America didn't want her, they made that perfectly clear to the world.
yougotredonyu
Does dude just eat Cheetos, shits them out, sticks its face in the toilet and flushes to get that glowering orange tone?
kevona1998
Probably?.....
BosunMark
No, I'll always believe that election was rigged and stolen by the GQP.
oddoregano
How many states have said there is election interference now? And don't try and say I sound like them. That was the point the entire time.
savagesong
All 11 swing states had statistical impossibilities in down ballet voting. Every other state was in the perfectly normal range. He didn’t win all the swing states. A cheater always cheats.
mattisnotdead
Both hilarious options
Rabidwoodchuck1119
Can someone please teach him to blend his makeup
thedudeman519
Damn, that's a nice dress.
bigtrubble
I was never a huge fan of Harris... but seriously how much better would this look right now 😑
justkidneying
YOU DONE MESSED UP, USA-A-RON.
karlfrack
The orange face with the little gray hands is art.
Darkspire
Imagine the world we could live in without these egotistic shitgibbons.
xj4low
The GOP is held together by a thread and I doubt Trump will make it the 4 years. I hate the idea of a national funeral but there is going to be a power vacuum left behind that will have every MAGA politician grabbing at straws. Even with the best healthcare the nation can afford, he is already showing Sundown Syndrome which is a classification of Dementia and Alzheimer's which his dad died from.
xj4low
His behaviors get worse around sunset or sundown and can include wondering, violence, insomnia, yelling, sadness, anxiety, fear, agitation, restlessness, irritability, confusion, paranoia, delusions and hallucinations. We already know he has insomnia. Just look at his Truth Social posting times. 3am, 4am with long winded rants and accusations.
criminently
I think that if we didn't have an electoral college and all votes counted, she would have won.
OfallthestupididioticWTF
You really think he won all 8 swing states???
Didn't see him on camera admitting to cheating???
Every accusation is an admission with him seriously
IHateToTurnUpTheVolumeOfMyTvBecauseMyCatIsSnoring
Tag your posts
bilborrax
IDoNotWantAnAccount
I prefer to frame it as "he can only win elections when he runs against women" (simplified).
Flyingfatman
I can't say what Kamala would have brought upon the country, but it would probably be better than what this orange turd is doing, my wife and I work for our state government and she just got notified that she may be move positions due to no funding for her department, and may have a pay decrease as well.
ddubya42
but hey, at least the price of eggs is coming down, right? right?
OptimusPom
I still cringe at the horror of those $4 dollar egg prices Vance said we would be blighted with if she was in charge. /s
spontaneous9
"Probably," huh? Ya think
Vamp13
america elected the person that best represents america.
Hunahpu
Except America didn't. https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalNews/comments/1kdesmi/trump_had_the_election_not_been_rigged_i_wouldve/
ManOfEvil93
America "land of the (fascism) free"
iwishjtmoneywasstillavailableitsmyoldvideogamemoniker
Yep we did.
PhooBar
I definitely believe that our average national IQ has reached a tipping point.
MrOne2
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1MDg3MWNocWlvZWtlN3NqMHQ1ejhldjUyMnlzM3p5NjhoeHBsMHV2YyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/3otPoEiEGXh41xKGdO/200w.webp
ibuycrap
I wouldn’t have believed it had not happened right before my fucking eyes
DynamiteSmoker
Half of America
FriskySour
Fuckin' truth right here.
besttom
The absolute truth of that has gutted my American heart to its core. I cannot deny that my fellow Americans put this Russian asset BACK in the WH. It sickens me every day. Worse: there’s NOTHING I can do about it. March/Protest? Yes. Write my Congressman? Check. Has it made a difference? Not one scintilla. We are a country of mostly Trumps, and I feel like I don’t belong here anymore.
Wizzbit
i thought them twats were the minority, just shout louder
DJOldguy
Don't give up, whatever you do, never give up hope. I'm 75 and I've never seen anything like this before, not even in the darkest days of the anti-Vietnam protests. We can't stop, stop and they win, we cannot allow that to happen. I don't expect to live through this time. I want people to have a better life after it, but we gotta fight now and keep fighting.
xj4low
He got less than 50% of the vote (49.8% vs. 48.3%). America is a very independent population country. Too many people never learned empathy and don't care about things unless it affects them.
cfry23
That’s of the people who voted or COULD vote, not of the entire country. Empathy is an issue but apathy is a bigger one.
engineeringwombocombo
The system is perfectly designed to get the results it does.
TheJomsborgViking
How does he look in the mirror and think the shit smear on his face looks good?
Holy fuck, he looks so fucking terrible.
cbale2000
In fairness, it's been shown on multiple occasions that certain news outlets like to color-shift images of him to make him look more orange than he really does.
SJ008
I am in no way a supporter of this terrible, awful man, but did want to comment (because you've been down-voted) that this does happen! Not just to Trump, and not by just one or a few news/tabloid sources (regardless of political alignment). It's very common for the media to photo edit, for example, to make someone look more red/flushed/embarrassed, to make someone look more pale, etc.
NotTakenImgurAccountName
Looks to be color settings on the TV, just look at the contrast between red and white in the lower info banner. Same channel on both TVs would look just as different.
cargys
I pretty sure there is an infamous reddit story that details what exactly we did with the ball.
napsmear
OhNooNotAgain
He probably just put extra nose makeup on today..
Nim449
More like extra crappy
SubTrout
Imagine going through all the rigorous training to be a secret service agent, and then fucking Trump gets elected and you're expected to potentially take a bullet for America's stupidest man-baby.
xj4low
Apparently, he is likable on a 1-to-1 basis but then again, so was Hitler.
skibbyAU
Don’t they love him though?
Source: secret service deleting texts during Jan 6 because they knew the penalty for deleting evidence is less than whatever crimes the texts were about.
SubTrout
I'm sure plenty do, but I can't imagine it's the whole force of them.
Monkeynutsjoe
Pretty sure those that display any opinions of him that aren't absolute love and fealty just get assigned to the Mint.
SubTrout
Sounds like a better option at this point. If you're not fully drinking the MAGA Kool Aid I think you'd probably want to jump off a bridge if you were forced to have to listen to him for any length of time.
KarateCanine
Comparatively? Oh yeah. For sure. But generally speaking, your contenders/options are usually the worst people. Best you can hope for is status quo, with hidden oligarchs.
Downvote away. It doesn't make me wrong.
*Before anyone says what about Bernie? Yes. He's a good person. And would fix a lot of your ailments. That's why they made sure he didn't get the nomination.
SinStar87
How would he fix it? Last checked congress isn't progressive, thus there's like 2(him being 1) out and out progressives and a handful of progressive leaning allied senators and less than a hundred progressives seated in the fed, and was mostly maga up through biden. Biden couldn't get moderate policy through, and things he tried to eo were constantly blocked by the courts.
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Well what were we supposed to do? Vote the issues? Consider their relative competence? Not shove our heads up our asses? Do you hear how ridiculous you sound?
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
The depth of racism, sexism, neo-confederates & nazis in America is wild. There needs to be a massive purge.
CallMeMcGyver
What a buffoon. Everyone living in America today will be ridiculed by future generations globally, because we allowed this face painted clown to infect the White House.
myravenx
Couldn't say better
meganical
Optimistic of you to think there will be future generations of Americans and not simply new, white immigrants to replace all the dead U.S.-born persons
Sipmonsnsn
Ridiculed is the best Option. The USA wasnt everybodys darling before trump either but now... lets say it like this: the atrocities of the Nazis have forever changed the path of germany. The rubble from the destruction can still be found in the foundations of buildings. I think Trump has permanently damaged the US. On the other hand what germany has become after the Nazis is remarkable and maybe the US will experience something similar after Trump.
TheRealSauceBoss
Reap what we sow.
anotherrandomname
I didn't sow any of this shit!
Sarcastus
Twice.
zanaria
Future generations? The rest of the world is ridiculing everyone in america right now... :p
Emjayen
now? The US has been the laughing stock of the developed world for decades. Since 2016 it's just a complete write-off and considered a failed-state.
zanaria
"Right now" doesn't exclude it happening previously, just means they are doing it now and not waiting until the future.
JoeMalmsteen
But it won't end with him, it will go on long after Trump has left office and likely long after his death.
The701
Yeah, the US keeps doing this, putting the worst people into positions of power. Nixon, Reagan, W. Bush...
zanaria
Maybe not "long" after him, cause I don't see the human race lasting much longer with the way things are going...
Ororon452
Oh my sweet summer child. Only the good die young. This? This is a testament to every base, vulgar instincts mankind has
CallMeMcGyver
Well, yeah, but a lot of them are dealing with their own stupid little fascists too now, so there's some context... a hundred years from now when someone is reading a holographic textbook and they see a photo of that asshole with his clown makeup on, scowling blankly as he shits his diaper, they are going to really, really be like "what a bunch of assholes to think this guy was even sentient..."
zanaria
Of course that's assuming that the human race survives another hundred years with the way things are going lately...
CallMeMcGyver
Well, that's an entirely different subject... possibly the sentient cockroaches will be combing through the debris and come across records of this and they'll be the ones judging our folly.
zanaria
Could be.
JakeRoads
Twice!
ArgentXero
Good. America needed to get it's tentacles out of everyone elses affairs anyway. Now we got China, South Korea and Japan partnering and the EU partnering with China as well. Nation Building Trump baby, just not for America.
andwings2go
The DNC fumbled the ball again. There was plenty of time for a Dem primary after Biden dropped out. Kamala probably wouldn’t have won that battle.
cbale2000
People forget she got zero delegates in the 2020 primary
thatsbadmmkay
Downvoters never want to blame people in positions of power
brozac69
Fumbled? We deflated the ball..pooped on it and put it in a shredder..
thedudeman519
Is this a Tom Brady reference?
Whyyeah
deflate gate 2 electric bugaloo
GhostofCharlieKirk
Poop Shredder is now my band name
Woogyface
then pretended biden did it, then licked it clean and said what a great job you guys are doing
ParpleBarglarAhrlm
Thanks Obama
thatkoreanguy
Deflated? We took that ball and shoved it right up our own ass. Now that ball is slowing expanding inside for 4 years. When will it blow?
Shadowkrieger
Forgot that we sprayed it tan first
BobRossHB
More like stolen by a group of domestic terrorists
Iwantcutedogs
And then then pointed a fan at the shredded remains of the balls so the microplastics got scattered to the wind and now we all have all sorts of complications from it.
Zamm005
You did that a long time before last election tho... Really you did that in the 70s,and everything since has just been the Niemoller poem playing out again..
akafluffy
and then ran the roomba over what came out the far side, gotta spread that shit everywhere... literally
justfiguredoutimc4azyanddumbb
Then boxed it and mailed it to our mom
georgysivtsov8888
The forbidden confetti
ddubya42
...and then set it on fire
Targe0
Then pissed the fire out, so now it's half burnt and covered in piss and shit.
KommSusserTod
Then blamed the hardest working part of our society.
nclu
Cut open the ball. Pooped in it. Set it on the world’s doorstep. Set it on fire. And rang the doorbell
MatrimBloodyCauthon
I'd say we put it on our doorstep and rang the doorbell to our own house, it's just that the smell is really, really bad and the world has to deal too
Goldensands
.. that's precisely what you haven't done
Starbolt81
Nah, more like took the ball and went home
shanasphone350
That last word, I would have selected differently. Shredder is ok, mine is different
ToSisPoS
And now are eatling it while making yummy noises.
anotherrandomname
All because some voters can't bring themselves to vote for a woman, let alone a black woman.
The11thPlague
This woman brought no new ideas. She could not say what people wanted to hear and too afraid to even take non-scripted questions. That's why she lost.
RaekinTheBored
If Kamala had been a white man, she still would have lost. She would have lost by less, but still lost. Democrats ran the same centrist campaign 3 times in a row for Loss > Barely Won > Bigger Loss. I will not be surprised when they try it a 4th time.
zHurk777
Inflation. Prices. That's why Biden lost. republicans successfully blamed Biden while large corporation were racking up record profits, but somehow that was Biden's fault. And Wall Street blamed Biden because the Biden economic recovery plan "over-heated" the economy; but you didn't hear one peep from wall street about trump over-heating the economy, even though trump signed TWO bills that pumped $$$$ into the economy.
Simusar
"But they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats!". "Sir, no dogs or cats were eaten,". "What are you going to believe, the facts or me?"
AlmostCertainlyNotPickles
trump has said multiple times that he wouldn't have won if it weren't for the election being rigged. That, plus all the voter suppression that occurred in 2023-2024.
Doobiedog
Yet they all probably watch big black dick porn.
JackDeHearts
Im sure it had nothing to do with that disaster of a campaign. Let's run joe. no he's too old. no he's fine. No too old. Get Kamala...
Kiares
Yeah, Biden should have just finished his run and then resigned Feb 1. But no, Dems had to run a last minute campaign.
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Until the public decides to hold republicans accountable for their corruption and incompetence, nothing the democrats do is going to matter. Any progress they make will be undone, and the public will blame them for not doing it hard enough. They did it with Roe. Women lost their own bodily autonomy, and the public’s response was to blame Dems for not codifying it. When it’s literally the Supreme Court’s job to declare laws unconstitutional. The mind reels.
dirtcreature
Bullshit. An 80 year old man and a half wit replacement is all the Democrats could offer? There were and are plenty of other candidates. Time to face facts. The economy and immigration lost that battle.
Salticido
She likely would have won if not for all the voter suppression.
johnetillman
That is the real answer.
barnwolf
All because Democrats were stupid enough to believe all the lies R's and R's spread about Hillary.
Domivla
In my opinion they lost because they kept ignoring the people needs. Bernie said the same thing. Instead of solving problems she was trying to copy trump saying she will be much harsher on border.
She kept saying how they will support Israel with no exception. Continue all Biden's plans. She didn't even go to Rogan....like no fan of his but he is the biggest podcast and trump went through all of them. I think it is noone fault but the democratic party, 1/2
Domivla
To me it seems, she was trying to get hog voters while ignoring her actual voters who ultimately decided that they are not going to vote for her. Like at least send waltz to Rogan. Rogan would have voted for Kamala after that. If waltz comes in who is an old school down to earth guy who knows his around the farm. Rogan would have fallen in love.
Instead trump went on all the podcasts and acted human even talking about cocaine on Theo Von. The democratic party needs to do smth. Bernie is 1/2
Domivla
Propping up aoc. They doing anti oligarchy rallies. What are the genocide Joe democrats doing? I don't think there is a big difference between democrats and republicans right now. Bernie even talking running independent because the democrats are ass right now. A bunch of rich loving bitches. Stop this shit. I don't think she lost because she was black and a woman. I think she lost cause she had no conviction and just copied Biden. 2/3
Domivla
Im just waiting on 2028 when Bernie will start a civil war with AOC at the helm to stop Trump from destroying democracy and staying president forever. While democrats are gonna sit around with their thumb inside their ass.
Darkspire
If they care about that when voting, it's one drop anyway.
Darkspire
Whoops meant to post this on a sub comment that said she is mixed race. Which is true. But any amount is too much to these voters.
buddhanature
I'm the optimistic type, i think they hate black people, and women, and also want to 'own the libs' and also wanted cheaper eggs, also figured Trump would be better for Palestine, also though a "businessman" could run a country better.
WHOLEMILK
I reluctantly voted for Harris, bad pair to choose from. I think she lost due to the over the top woke Biden Harris agenda.
ParpleBarglarAhrlm
White dude here. I voted for Kamala
Rugras
I like you. You are smart.
vystral
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resodeliveryog101
There's a men in black quote about a person being smart and rational but people are irrational and crazy or smth
L4dead2
First time I voted blue myself but I heard from some folk that they didn’t vote for her specifically because she’s a woman
ParpleBarglarAhrlm
Sadly, that’s what I keep hearing as well. I honestly thought we were there and we could have a female president
L4dead2
She definitely seemed stronger than Biden in regards to getting stuff done. He was in progress to getting things better after trump so her continuing it seemed pretty good. Unfortunately some men just don’t want a woman in charge. I might be bias due to my wife being one of those types of go getters, but I can see her actually doing something. I had hope for her
crabbygramps
me, too
lovingspace
I have met so many women who said they wouldn't vote for Kamala. Like what the fuck.
PastureofMuppets
I have not met any women who said that, and further all my friends --- men and women--- and close family members, all voted for Kamala. Many of these myself included wanted Bernie but still voted Kamala cause rump is objectively far worse.
LootenetDan
Internalized misogyny is a real bitch. Maybe Christian women are raised to believe they're only ever supposed to be side characters in their husband's lives. It's how I was raised
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
I heard “I just don’t like her laugh” way too much last year. Republicans overturned ROE and women couldn’t be bothered to vote for their own autonomy. It’s Stockholm Syndrome on a national scale.
gesel
That laugh thing was a super bizarre bit of cognitive warfare, not as clever as couch fucker, which has to be one of the best ever, hall of fame, but still insane that "but her laugh" worked almost as well as "but her emails."
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Americans will use any excuse to write off a woman. Or a black person. Or a Democrat. Sigh.
Lurker55684
Is that what the exit polls were saying?
anotherrandomname
That's what I'm saying. People won't necessarily admit to it, but I bet that if the Dems ran a male candidate (besides Biden), he would have won.
Exyr
I think the biggest thing was that no one voted for her. She was forced upon the people.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Better let trump win then.
Lurker55684
A simple primary would have made that clear, but Dems haven't done that in several cycles.
SinStar87
Had one, here in ohio atleast, just noone to reasonably run against biden so opposition candidates withdrew after first states went overwhelmingly for the incumbent(shocker there.) Even bernie didn't chance the 3peat and risk losing even more voters. It was dumb and reactionary to pull biden.
Lurker55684
You should listen to the people who ran the campaign on what they think. It might give you a better, more reasonable idea rather than this "it just be racism/sexism" take that you came up with on your own. https://youtu.be/ab-DDrGCdv0?si=rHrIBEOs0Ab12gHl
anotherrandomname
There are lots of factors, of course- but looking at the attitudes that are being shown publicly now with this shitty administration we've got, you can't convince me that her being woman wasn't an issue for some voters.
ragingzealot
I think, just maybe, not listening to what their voter base was asking for and campaigning purely on not being Trump might have had something to do with it. Blue MAGA shouting down anyone who even had the slightest hesitation didn't help either.
CrisprCAS
The Democratic base is the center, not the left.
ragingzealot
That tactic didn't work out for them, did it? Hasn't worked since Clinton, but they keep trying it and keep losing.
AricTheGreen
Wasnt it 'blue maga' that were the ones telling everyone not to vote or protest-vote b/c of their dissatisfaction? All those leftists yelling at any liberal whod swallow their pride in order to stop obvious fascists?
ragingzealot
No, blue MAGA are the blue no matter who people.
ilovebigmutts
Mixed race* but whatever...
RootMeanSqr
Some racists beg to differ.
anotherrandomname
Yes, but that is irrelevant to the people that it's an issue for.
SarcasticComment
Obama didn't get treated white
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Pally01
'Democrats didn't do 100% of what I wanted, so I had to vote Trump.'
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IncognitoEnthusiast
No, people couldn't be bothered to vote against Nazis, it's that simple. Half the country are traitors and at least a third of what's left couldn't be bothered to vote in their own best interests against it.
PastureofMuppets
Clinton was not better than Harris. Trump II was worse the second time around, and even someone less qualified than Clinton or Harris should have trounced Trump simply by not being Trump.
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InTangier
This is the truth right here. Dems don't give a shit about grassroots politics, then they get pissed when folks get turned down from their shitty candidates.
They just perform the *aesthetics* of progress, the bare minimum, to pretend they're better. But this is the party that allows Synemas and Manchins to keep their seats, who turn down any meaningful policy, and pretend it's just the GOP being bad.
And they want to blame everyone, taking zero responsibility.
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Lurker55684
You keep saying "should have" but you don't seem to realize that the head of lettuce that you thought was going to beat him, simply did not. Trump won the popular vote and the electoral college and you're still going on about what "should have" happened. You need to realign your beliefs with reality, because you're being delusional at this point. Just look around, you need to change your tactics because complaining about how they didn't work well fix nothing.
IncognitoEnthusiast
Fuck off with that nonsense. Even Bernie was like, vote against the Nazis, you can fix the rest later, but we have to stop them NOW, and at least a third of team blue just went no no, they must be the perfect candidate being willing to do every little thing. This election, and hell even the one before it, was about clawing back control and THEN fixing our issues. This is about people being so fucking full of themselves they cant even vote in their own literal best interests.
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IncognitoEnthusiast
No, I fucking wouldn't because I have the mental capacity to understand that those things are not ok, but our country falling to Nazis is an even worse outcome. Your inability to understand something is not a defense against it.
IhopeUgetwhatUvoted4
They have Bernie but they eat from the same trough as the republicians.
michaeloberg
She also ran a poor campaign for getting votes, it was exciting and hopeful and she showed more charisma and intelligence than had previously been widely demonstrated, but she didn't disown the horrible Gaza policy, or distance herself from the incredibly unpopular Biden administration really in any way - which was disastrous. Let alone make actual appeals on healthcare, rampant corporate profiteering, corruption etc. You know, the things voters care about.
L4dead2
First time voting blue and I was excited to vote for her because she wasn’t dump. I was raised republican but even I saw how vile dump was. She may have not ran the best campaign but she showed she was better. Those who didn’t vote for her were idiots
IncognitoEnthusiast
Ah yes, the poor campaign of, let's stop the Nazis from getting complete and total power, what a terrible platform.
michaeloberg
It takes a lot more than "orange guy bad" to earn votes.
It's the media's job to accurately report on the dangers of Trump, and they failed spectacularly
IncognitoEnthusiast
lmao, what? This wasn't orange man bad, this was LITERAL NAZIs, how fucking clueless can you be? And the media that's owned by the very people backing Trump and said Nazi's? You want THEM to report on the dangers? Holy fuck no wonder the US is where it is right now.
Pikachaan
Nah, sorry I'm tired of deflecting all the blame to Democrats and constantly coddling the brainless minds of voters. There is nothing about Harris that was bad enough to not vote for her over the convicted felon rapist that tried to coup the government. Americans are just plain dumb, entitled, and lazy. It's that simple. Dems deserve some amount of blame for not figuring out the media environment to get these sheep out to the polls but the ultimate blame is on the impossible stupid electorate.
sufferinsuccotash
Exactly what you said!
IncognitoEnthusiast
As you should be, while the Dems are far from perfect, they aren't active Nazis. Team blue dropped the ball, and the US is paying the price.
InTangier
They deserve the lion's share of the blame, frankly. It's not about being out of touch, their leadership is catering to the same rich assholes, and still feel entitled to votes. They shut down popular candidates like Bernie. The electorate is stupid by design.
They seriously shelved Tim Walz after he was killing it, he was more liked than Kamala. They had her cater to right wing anxieties, legitimizing them.
Trump didn't win, the Dems lost. Didn't learn in 2016.
IncognitoEnthusiast
No, people like you didn't learn, that literal Nazis were taking power and we as the voters needed to stop them. FFS if you're bleeding out you don't treat the scrape on your knee first.
InTangier
Why would you be accusing the people who agree with you? I'm not even American, but most leftists would agree the threat is bigger than the DNC itself, and actually voted for Kamala. The thing is, a lot of people didn't bote, and a lot of people don't vote in your elections.
This was a failure by the Democratic party to provide a suitable candidate, as they've been doing since 2016. You can blame everyone you want, but the Dem party has been refusing their share of responsibility.
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InTangier
Dems still tried to deflect blame and ran interference blaming "the Left" for Kamala's defeat. Apparently, not powerful enough to win elections, but can cost the Dems a victory. Which means we should appeal more to right wingers!
I hope Bernie, AOC, Crockett and Omar steal their party from them. The DNC feels entitled to young votes, and they only need to stand for not hunting poor people for sport, but are available to make concessions on a point or two...
IncognitoEnthusiast
lol, the same Bernie that told you to vote for them? So we wouldn't fall into a Nazi regime? That same Bernie? Don't harp on his name if you're not gonna include the fact he fucking TOLD YOU what would happen if team blue lost this.
IncognitoEnthusiast
IF YOU HAVE TO BE TOLD TO VOTE IN YOUR OWN INTERESTS AND LITERAL NAZIS MAYBE YOU'RE JUST A SHIT CITIZEN.
CaptainKipup
I’d say she lost because all the billionaires of the world had Trump’s back. Russian bots on social media. Musk basically donating the whole cost of a campaign, and turning all of Twitter into a Trump bugle. Murdoch with his Newscorp machine that runs pro Trump anti democrat propaganda 24/7 all across the world and calls it”news”. The dark money that bought up Trump’s stocks in his shitty Truth Social that gave him a few billion dollars. The poors got scammed by the Uber rich.
IncognitoEnthusiast
No, she lost because at least a third of team blue just didnt bother showing up, it's that simple. Some people chose to protest, or say she's not perfect, rather than vote against a literal Nazi regime. It's that simple, if you didn't vote, you voted for the Nazis.
thedarklord187
Don't forget he enlisted the help of Peter theil and the Nazis and the heritage foundation
Jordan7831
And stupid people in large numbers
Agreement2agree
She lost because a bunch of Americans didn't vote.
Evi1Gav
Trump went on TV and said "I'm going to be a dictator". That was widely shown. Anyone voting for that or not voting against that is an idiot.
StarscreamAndHutch
Trimo has admitted multiple times on camera you had fElon manipulate voting.
StarscreamAndHutch
*trimp *he
QBSuck
source?
thatguydom
Um, him literally saying it right in front of you?
captainsweatypants
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CoeurFranc
You’re totally right. This is the real explanation.
IncognitoEnthusiast
No, it's not, because if the large portion of team blue had actually bothered to vote, we wouldn't be here. There was no scam, it was people literally not voting against Nazis.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Part of it. There was a huge part of people that just could not vote for a woman. Don't underestimate how much the average person sucks ass.
CaptainKipup
I wonder what came first, the racism or the programming? My friend tells me how dumb Kamala is, yet she has a law degree and operates successfully at state and federal levels. But he drinks that Fox Newsaid with giggling Tucker Carlson calling her a low IQ DEI hire. I think if my friend could have just listened to the two debate policy in a clean cut space, he’d have likely voted for her because he is a generally reasonable, if overconfident, person. Billionaires program hate to control votes.
TacoPoweredHelicopter
Yup.
But don't underestimate pure sexism. I am a man myself but I see sexism everywhere, there are alot of people who just do not value women as equals (both men and women do this).
I have noticed myself with some anti male sexism (kinda) I need a quote done on my house and they are sending Jessica and my first thought was "good she will know what she is doing" because women do not just get positions like that without being good at it. Whereas some men are shit at the positions they are in.
heroesblood
Don't forget the asshole one-issue voters shouting "WUT ABOUT GAZA?!?!?!?!?!?" who fucking ruined it for the country.
JackDeHearts
She did that to herself though. They called gaza protestors traitors and terrorist sympathisers. Banned palestinians from DNC