Oct 14, 2021 10:49 PM
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Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
Oh no. They complained about that too. Don't worry. Source. Am sky people.
MCFUDDLENUTS
Clearly he wasn't flying out of Hartsfield Jackson.
pastelteapot
Oh believe me, people complain and protest about the TSA. It is just old news at this point.
azazyel
I did for a while when they added those body scanners, I always made them pat me down.
mrthewhitee
And ironically none of those sacrificed freedoms has ever been proven to save a life.
SithElephant
Haha. For your safety.
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
In all fairness, we were complaining about that from 2002-2010, we just stopped cause it wasn't doing any good. #securitytheater
isaidsomethingcool
One guy has a failed attempt at a shoe bombing, and now I have to take my shoes off for the TSA now and forever. Wear the damn mask.
HenryLongfellowIII
It's a good thing the underwear bomber didn't result in tighty-whitey checks.
ace5762
I remember it being incredibly controversial.
FaptimusPrime
Abolish the TSA.
indomitableweatherman
My dad refuses to fly because of this. Way before vaccines and masks.
Jewdakris
I mean I complain about it every time but what else imma do
DukePhelan
That is because there are actual consequences if you refuse to comply. Ranging from not making your flight to criminal charges.
zafner
Well I don't like it
wandermanspacebot
No one likes any of it. Adults accept it.
Adults can accept it or not. It's up to them
*Mature adults
Right. Mature adults. Maturity means making choices
Exactly. Making choices that are and taking paths that are easy and not bitching about them because you realize you live in a society.
waterfowlerCR
It's all security theater. 70-80% TSA failure rate at detecting weapons and other banded objects
JonatasAM
Is the fake bomv guy still fooling them or have they sent the poor guy to Guantanamera already?
They're getting better, it used to be a 95% failure rate when the FBI/DHS ran tests against them.
nolzvader
Still great deterrent though, club gitmo possibly awaiting is no joke- just enough intimidation to steer them elsewhere. Win?
soulsource
If I were a terrorist, I'd just blow up the waiting line in front of the security checkpoint… Now you don't even need to get on the plane…
theoccultist
I'm not saying it ain't theatre, but I will point out that the failure rate occurs by a team working for the TSA with the express purpose of
trying to sneak things past the TSA in creative ways to help the TSA learn of how these things could possibly be sneaked past them.
CapitalNick
That's because they're sheep and full of fear. /s
de1h
They can either comply or not get on the plane, there’s no exceptions and no recourse that still gets them in the air if they don’t like it
It also isn’t a states rights issue, so even if a governor or something doesn’t like the regulations there’s nothing they can do
madpathmoth
People did/still do... They just know holding up a line with noncompliance won't help them change things. Occasionally somebody still does.
post4themost
because when those laws passed it feed all the paranoia of the right, therefore it's not an infringement
OlderWiser
You know, the big difference is laws. Who has laws for masking or vac status? Where there are laws, most obey them. No laws, nobody cares.
TiredSnowball
Baggage x-ray have been there for as long as I can remember. Way before 9/11
Lierofox
Yeah, baggage x-ray and metal detectors have been a thing for as long as I can remember at most international airports.
OddlyPacific
But not at Arcata Eureka municipal airport. That happened right after 9/11. They barely checked tickets in the 90s.
I had to Google that. 17K population and they have an airport? Scanners do sound like an overkill.
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
Why not, its tax money and jobs, plus the billionare in charge is making big bucks. All for fear mongering.
There's a population of close to 100,000 that use it. It only connects to a couple of hubs.
LorindaLogan
Nah, they bitched about this too when it first came out.
lildude52ca
believe you fucking me - people were complaining and protesting when that shit first went in.
nojustsayitdont
Except all those dumbasses bringing guns to the airport we heard about yesterday.
Whitebromyalgia
I’m just upset about how inefficiently the TSA is run.
slaitch
I bet they would also comply with mask mandates if they could be cavity searched for refusing.
fafa4201
Or forcefully removed from locations and/or detained under strict federal regulations and not just local code
quietwalker
Well then I guess you haven't been to an airtport in the US in the last few months as people threw absolute shit fits about it all.
TheSpaceCroissant
Remember that after 9/11 there were a lot of people who believed the Bush administration set it up only to restrict their freedom? Some =>
people simply can't take what they see as an inconvenience and are ready to distort reality to fit a fiction where they become the victims.
DriveByPianist
Um 19 years ago people did flip their shit out about the x ray and new tech machines. Oh man was that funny. Took us this long to normalize
DeimosBarret
Body scans.. hah
weirdcalculator
In 2016 a lady in front of me at security waved me ahead of her and said she was going to raise a stink over illegal search and seizure.
SliderOfElay
I remember people saying they would never fly again. I basically did stop flying but not because of that. Those "protesting" not so much.
BlacknCrimsonRose
I think this was a comment to the sanity level of most countries right now. Not necessarily technology. That's just my take from the post.
palmo
Of course it isn't about the technology. But acting like there aren't any weren't similar protestations is ignorant. But honestly the TSA (1
And the security theater that is part and parcel to the Patriot act is bullshit. The point is that the same people that support the (2
Actual hinderence of some of our rights by the Patriot act are the ones bitching about masks and vaccines mandates that do not. (3
goodisunpopular
I remember when people said the xrays were violating their privacy by showing their naked bodies under the clothes
outthere987
thats still an issue. Its not x-ray machines but terrahertz wave scanners, and they do show the shape of the body beneath the clothes.
The point is, it's still just shapes, like a white mannequin. Not HD full color nudes showing every freckle and drunk tattoo.
still, for some people thats a serious indignity.Sucks to have to choose between that and getting groped esp. for women from modest cultures
by which I mean women who come from cultures that place a high value on modesty, who don't want to be seen or touched in that way
OmNachoMama
When I flew back from Amsterdam, they patted down EVERYONE. It was practically a gyno exam. I'm glad I was wearing pants and not a skirt.
CrypticalEnvelopement
Depends on the output display. TSA made a big show of having Fallout style body analogs that were generic for everyone
atomright2718
VATS has entered the chat.
Lachwen
They made a big show of that AFTER someone acquired and leaked a bunch of the more...accurate scans (that weren't supposed to be saved 1/
anywhere in the first place but oops they totally were). 2/2
ThisIsWhyIWalkandTalkThisWay
This isn’t the same David Axelrod who composed “The Edge,” right?
thatguyisreallydeep
Alas, it's not the return of the late David Axelrod. This one was campaign strategist and senior advisor to Obama.
The hair should have been a dead giveaway. Also, the fact that he’s dead … is also a dead giveaway
GinOClock
I think his last name is one of the coolest.
It’s definitely fun to say like you’re announcing an action hero.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
I bet they put their stuff through the xray machines without protest as well
KommSusserTod
Funny thing, TSA doesn't have the sense of humor Twitter does. Airports are the pinnacle of fuck around and find out.
Talon83
They really are
HellomynameisSatan
Residual x-rays are dang..... can't do it. Someone may actually think thats a thing.
AltF4EwingsSarcoma
That stuff will change your DNA. Literally does.
Yessir
SomethingOtherThanMyRealName
Those 5G powered x-ray machines?
1stCylonGwar
I seem to remember how it took a while (like several years) to get to that point.
maincarrot
Fucking sheep being passed through the corrals. Fuck big airline! They're just control mongers who take pictures of your naked body!!!!!!!
sinnerrwinners
No one in my state said anything about seatbelt laws. Even though of someone decides they want to fly through a window, that's their busines
fomhar
Lost a bro back in the day bc we didn't take seatbelts seriously. Seems antiquated but I hope your msg is clear. Life is fragile af.
Jrockitcrocket
It really really isn't. Someone without a seat belt in your car is a flying projectile in an accident, can kill or injure other passengers.
cokeandhookers
They probably even showered naked before going to the airport too.. dirty sluts.
GerberLegalTeam
*clean* sluts.
ILikeTaterTots
TresusIbor
Man his face is gonna be everywhere.
myballshurt
Its not gay, if its TSA
SirJamesMonster42
I got no time for your sass/it's time to Touch Someone's Ass
Nothing homo about homeland security.
livurz
It's okay if it's from the TSA. With a glove in the way there's some leeway. It's not gay if it's the MF'n TSA.
gtollie
You don’t have to use the back of the hand .. I won’t tell anyone!
captinjojo2000
I always moan during the wanding.
You're my kind of people. I like screaming at an ATM "wooooo this machine is paying out" as if Im at a casino
UnkindledOne
Agreed. Thats why my wife and I named the dildo she pegs me with "TSA"
Hahahah
becauseurwrong
If ur a guy pegged by a wife, why would it be gay anyway? Lesbians who get pegged ≠ straight. If ur a woman tho idk the dildo is the factor
onlyhalfghost
some people are very confused and think sexual orientation relies entirely on the penis. These people are also very fixated on penises.
(Which is fine, except that these are also people who very much want you to know that they own a penis and don't like other penises.)
You are preaching to the choir. It came up in my friend group and not one of them saw it this way. No talking sense to some ppl
muckamuckamuck
I'm more troubled that you volunteer for the "TSA" cavity search for fun
Dont knock it til you try it. But if you do, I dont recommend a full on dido. Start with small ones. Maybe a finger. Work up to bigger stuff
Ispentthelastfewyearsbuildingupanimmunitytoiocanepowder
Oh no. They complained about that too. Don't worry. Source. Am sky people.
MCFUDDLENUTS
Clearly he wasn't flying out of Hartsfield Jackson.
pastelteapot
Oh believe me, people complain and protest about the TSA. It is just old news at this point.
azazyel
I did for a while when they added those body scanners, I always made them pat me down.
mrthewhitee
And ironically none of those sacrificed freedoms has ever been proven to save a life.
SithElephant
Haha. For your safety.
IHopeMyKidsDontSeeThis
In all fairness, we were complaining about that from 2002-2010, we just stopped cause it wasn't doing any good. #securitytheater
isaidsomethingcool
One guy has a failed attempt at a shoe bombing, and now I have to take my shoes off for the TSA now and forever. Wear the damn mask.
HenryLongfellowIII
It's a good thing the underwear bomber didn't result in tighty-whitey checks.
ace5762
I remember it being incredibly controversial.
FaptimusPrime
Abolish the TSA.
indomitableweatherman
My dad refuses to fly because of this. Way before vaccines and masks.
Jewdakris
I mean I complain about it every time but what else imma do
DukePhelan
That is because there are actual consequences if you refuse to comply. Ranging from not making your flight to criminal charges.
zafner
Well I don't like it
wandermanspacebot
No one likes any of it. Adults accept it.
zafner
Adults can accept it or not. It's up to them
wandermanspacebot
*Mature adults
zafner
Right. Mature adults. Maturity means making choices
wandermanspacebot
Exactly. Making choices that are and taking paths that are easy and not bitching about them because you realize you live in a society.
waterfowlerCR
It's all security theater. 70-80% TSA failure rate at detecting weapons and other banded objects
JonatasAM
Is the fake bomv guy still fooling them or have they sent the poor guy to Guantanamera already?
DukePhelan
They're getting better, it used to be a 95% failure rate when the FBI/DHS ran tests against them.
nolzvader
Still great deterrent though, club gitmo possibly awaiting is no joke- just enough intimidation to steer them elsewhere. Win?
soulsource
If I were a terrorist, I'd just blow up the waiting line in front of the security checkpoint… Now you don't even need to get on the plane…
theoccultist
I'm not saying it ain't theatre, but I will point out that the failure rate occurs by a team working for the TSA with the express purpose of
theoccultist
trying to sneak things past the TSA in creative ways to help the TSA learn of how these things could possibly be sneaked past them.
CapitalNick
That's because they're sheep and full of fear. /s
de1h
They can either comply or not get on the plane, there’s no exceptions and no recourse that still gets them in the air if they don’t like it
de1h
It also isn’t a states rights issue, so even if a governor or something doesn’t like the regulations there’s nothing they can do
madpathmoth
People did/still do... They just know holding up a line with noncompliance won't help them change things. Occasionally somebody still does.
post4themost
OlderWiser
You know, the big difference is laws. Who has laws for masking or vac status? Where there are laws, most obey them. No laws, nobody cares.
TiredSnowball
Baggage x-ray have been there for as long as I can remember. Way before 9/11
Lierofox
Yeah, baggage x-ray and metal detectors have been a thing for as long as I can remember at most international airports.
OddlyPacific
But not at Arcata Eureka municipal airport. That happened right after 9/11. They barely checked tickets in the 90s.
TiredSnowball
I had to Google that. 17K population and they have an airport? Scanners do sound like an overkill.
IMayNotKnowWhatIAmTalkingAbout
Why not, its tax money and jobs, plus the billionare in charge is making big bucks. All for fear mongering.
OddlyPacific
There's a population of close to 100,000 that use it. It only connects to a couple of hubs.
LorindaLogan
Nah, they bitched about this too when it first came out.
lildude52ca
believe you fucking me - people were complaining and protesting when that shit first went in.
nojustsayitdont
Except all those dumbasses bringing guns to the airport we heard about yesterday.
Whitebromyalgia
I’m just upset about how inefficiently the TSA is run.
slaitch
I bet they would also comply with mask mandates if they could be cavity searched for refusing.
fafa4201
Or forcefully removed from locations and/or detained under strict federal regulations and not just local code
quietwalker
Well then I guess you haven't been to an airtport in the US in the last few months as people threw absolute shit fits about it all.
TheSpaceCroissant
Remember that after 9/11 there were a lot of people who believed the Bush administration set it up only to restrict their freedom? Some =>
TheSpaceCroissant
people simply can't take what they see as an inconvenience and are ready to distort reality to fit a fiction where they become the victims.
DriveByPianist
Um 19 years ago people did flip their shit out about the x ray and new tech machines. Oh man was that funny. Took us this long to normalize
DeimosBarret
Body scans.. hah
weirdcalculator
In 2016 a lady in front of me at security waved me ahead of her and said she was going to raise a stink over illegal search and seizure.
SliderOfElay
I remember people saying they would never fly again. I basically did stop flying but not because of that. Those "protesting" not so much.
BlacknCrimsonRose
I think this was a comment to the sanity level of most countries right now. Not necessarily technology. That's just my take from the post.
palmo
Of course it isn't about the technology. But acting like there aren't any weren't similar protestations is ignorant. But honestly the TSA (1
palmo
And the security theater that is part and parcel to the Patriot act is bullshit. The point is that the same people that support the (2
palmo
Actual hinderence of some of our rights by the Patriot act are the ones bitching about masks and vaccines mandates that do not. (3
goodisunpopular
I remember when people said the xrays were violating their privacy by showing their naked bodies under the clothes
outthere987
thats still an issue. Its not x-ray machines but terrahertz wave scanners, and they do show the shape of the body beneath the clothes.
goodisunpopular
The point is, it's still just shapes, like a white mannequin. Not HD full color nudes showing every freckle and drunk tattoo.
outthere987
still, for some people thats a serious indignity.Sucks to have to choose between that and getting groped esp. for women from modest cultures
outthere987
by which I mean women who come from cultures that place a high value on modesty, who don't want to be seen or touched in that way
OmNachoMama
When I flew back from Amsterdam, they patted down EVERYONE. It was practically a gyno exam. I'm glad I was wearing pants and not a skirt.
CrypticalEnvelopement
Depends on the output display. TSA made a big show of having Fallout style body analogs that were generic for everyone
atomright2718
VATS has entered the chat.
Lachwen
They made a big show of that AFTER someone acquired and leaked a bunch of the more...accurate scans (that weren't supposed to be saved 1/
Lachwen
anywhere in the first place but oops they totally were). 2/2
ThisIsWhyIWalkandTalkThisWay
This isn’t the same David Axelrod who composed “The Edge,” right?
thatguyisreallydeep
Alas, it's not the return of the late David Axelrod. This one was campaign strategist and senior advisor to Obama.
ThisIsWhyIWalkandTalkThisWay
The hair should have been a dead giveaway. Also, the fact that he’s dead … is also a dead giveaway
GinOClock
I think his last name is one of the coolest.
ThisIsWhyIWalkandTalkThisWay
It’s definitely fun to say like you’re announcing an action hero.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
I bet they put their stuff through the xray machines without protest as well
KommSusserTod
Funny thing, TSA doesn't have the sense of humor Twitter does. Airports are the pinnacle of fuck around and find out.
Talon83
They really are
HellomynameisSatan
Residual x-rays are dang..... can't do it. Someone may actually think thats a thing.
AltF4EwingsSarcoma
That stuff will change your DNA. Literally does.
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
Yessir
SomethingOtherThanMyRealName
Those 5G powered x-ray machines?
1stCylonGwar
I seem to remember how it took a while (like several years) to get to that point.
maincarrot
Fucking sheep being passed through the corrals. Fuck big airline! They're just control mongers who take pictures of your naked body!!!!!!!
sinnerrwinners
No one in my state said anything about seatbelt laws. Even though of someone decides they want to fly through a window, that's their busines
fomhar
Lost a bro back in the day bc we didn't take seatbelts seriously. Seems antiquated but I hope your msg is clear. Life is fragile af.
Jrockitcrocket
It really really isn't. Someone without a seat belt in your car is a flying projectile in an accident, can kill or injure other passengers.
cokeandhookers
They probably even showered naked before going to the airport too.. dirty sluts.
GerberLegalTeam
*clean* sluts.
ILikeTaterTots
TresusIbor
Man his face is gonna be everywhere.
myballshurt
Its not gay, if its TSA
SirJamesMonster42
I got no time for your sass/it's time to Touch Someone's Ass
wandermanspacebot
Nothing homo about homeland security.
livurz
It's okay if it's from the TSA. With a glove in the way there's some leeway. It's not gay if it's the MF'n TSA.
gtollie
You don’t have to use the back of the hand .. I won’t tell anyone!
captinjojo2000
I always moan during the wanding.
myballshurt
You're my kind of people. I like screaming at an ATM "wooooo this machine is paying out" as if Im at a casino
UnkindledOne
Agreed. Thats why my wife and I named the dildo she pegs me with "TSA"
myballshurt
Hahahah
becauseurwrong
If ur a guy pegged by a wife, why would it be gay anyway? Lesbians who get pegged ≠ straight. If ur a woman tho idk the dildo is the factor
onlyhalfghost
some people are very confused and think sexual orientation relies entirely on the penis. These people are also very fixated on penises.
onlyhalfghost
(Which is fine, except that these are also people who very much want you to know that they own a penis and don't like other penises.)
UnkindledOne
You are preaching to the choir. It came up in my friend group and not one of them saw it this way. No talking sense to some ppl
muckamuckamuck
I'm more troubled that you volunteer for the "TSA" cavity search for fun
UnkindledOne
Dont knock it til you try it. But if you do, I dont recommend a full on dido. Start with small ones. Maybe a finger. Work up to bigger stuff