So based on his logic, if I were to get info on brain surgery, from reading books without reading any, & having no traditional experience at all, I can then decide he needs an emergency lobotomy without his consent, much as he stol... I mean stopped various things, that other people needed. Now where did I keep my random tool kit?
Reducing the national deficit from two trillion dollars to close to zero is an absurdly ridiculous idea in concept alone, let alone making a serious clam that that's a thing you've actually done, let alone making that claim when you're barely out of high school. I'd say he's too young to understand how dumb he sounds, but his boss has said dumber shit than this and he's ancient.
He perfectly illustrates the interviewers point, an experienced and composed political operative with a sound knowledge of what he did and why he did it would not walk head first into the woodchipper of inventing scholarly texts that support his position.
So stupid he can't begin to grasp how stupid what he says is. "I think..." no, you don't think, you just blindly applied racist and dicriminatory rules and were paid for it, and your racist ass liked every part of it.
Same, but it has to some of my friends, I don't know how they got their either. Actually I mostly do. right wing influencer bull shit and toxic masculinity. Funny enough it's the least "Manly" of them who fall for it, without fail.
Anyone who knows anything about body language and facial expressions knows that they just watched a barely concealed smugness with strong psychopathic traits.
Anyone who knows anything about the people who claim to know things about body language and facial expressions knows that what they claim to know is entirely pseudoscientific. You can tell that he's a smug asshole because he says and does smug asshole things.
"Under Cavanaugh and Fox's leadership of the NEH, DOGE used ChatGPT to identify grants that were in violation of Trump's executive orders related to DEI..."
So let me get this straight... it's not inappropriate for someone with no experience to make such personal judgement calls because they can get the knowledge they need from books... but he personally didn't read any such books... Am I getting this right?
I absolutely don't agree with the DOGE or Trumelton BS but if I am listening to what the little sociopath said, it was that he didn't need to read any books to know that if the grant title said "DEI" then by definition it defied the EO against federal grants for DEI.
he was asked if it's inappropriate for someone with no experience like him to make those calls. He said no because you can read books. He was asked what books. He said "there are no books" Which means he was admitting to being unqualified by his own standards
What you are saying is true, and that was an admission to not being qualified to make personal judgement calls. However, he also says that he cancelled the grant due to it containing DEI-studies in opposition to the EO. The level of decision here doesn't seem to require judgement as far as I understand, it could be done by an Excel formula. "If it contains mentions of DEI and/or LGBTQ, cancel it". I disagree with that being a good thing to do, but it seems like he did what the EO said to do.
right but my point is he admitted to being unqualified, and even contradicted his position that it's inappropriate for him to have that job or be making those decisions
I agree with you on this, but it seems to me there are two separate issues: A) Is he qualified to make actual judgment calls on cases that are in doubt? No, and he also admits that through his logic if not through his words. B) Is he qualified to cancel grants in simple cases where they are clearly covered by the EO (which is a bad EO)? Yes, but that is because that level of decision making seemingly requires no qualifications other than being able to read.
This person is young, healthy. He'll live at least some more 60 or 70 more years, who knows. Imagine the possible damage to society he may be able to continue to do.
It didn't affect him so he doesn't care about destroying people's lives. Just a bunch of tech weasels hand-picked by the biggest weasel to destroy everything they can get their hands on.
Lol yeah. Also the part where he is like I COULD have read books and gotten information to make a good decision. Ok, what books did you read? There were no books ...
They don't think they are wrong. They think the policies/grants are wrong and they are individually right. They truly want meritocracy, but they think the only way to do that is to stop DEI and hire people like themselves.
Most of them don’t “truly want meritocracy”. They‘ve had vague feelings of being mad (which they never tried to understand) forever, someone at some point weaponised those feelings towards some group (women, gays, blacks etc) and then afterwards DEI was the most compelling narrative to justify those irrational feelings. The hate comes first and the outcome is set dressing. It’s that same reason these “muh DEI” types only celebrate those who are self made/successful as heroes if they’re cis/white
Because they're bigots... they think it has to be like themselves because they're homophobic, racist, misogynistic, etc. and so anything that indicates good can comes from thsoe thigns they hate, but be insane and a waste.
We are definitely finding out that when they hate that much, it's because they secretly love it. So many closeted Republicans. Dictated by fear, fear that they are gay. So instead of coming to terms with it, they blame the world. They aren't gay, it's the world!
In my dissertation I will state how Gamergate and other false narratives conducted by wealthy pedophiles created a base of incels from which Trump formed a new Hitler youth, that irrespective of all education or knowledge of sciences and culture set out to unethically and systemically destroy the lives of hundreds of millions of US citizens with the righteousness of ignorance and misinformation.
Basically took a bunch of unfuckable dorks and programmed them to be even more unfuckable to harness the awesome power of mass sexual frustration to operate the orphan crushing machine in perpetuity.
That's stupid. Better reason: because aligning my opinions and preferences to a template made by someone other than me is retarded. Democrats just as ridiculous as Republicans and every other political party in existence. Everyone should have their own custom-made set of outlooks based on their own brain's decisions and not be part of any political party at all, ever. And if you feel withdrawals, visit a circus time to time.
Oh no no...they will never understand so much so as that would mean admitting they were wrong at some point in time or misinformed. They would burn down the world and their whole lives before ever admitting they were not always 100% correct in all their actions
Fun fact: I have a disease(AVN) in my joints that turns them into basically paper mache. Extremely painful!!! So far at 60yrs old I just had both hips replaced due to them being collapsed. Sitting, standing, even laying down was a +10 on the pain scale. Yes, I do wish this on these dumb fucks.
For a brief time in rebellion of my parents I STARTED to slide into the pit. From about 19-22 I was probably one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet despite a high IQ whatever the fuck that is supposed to be worth. It took becoming disabled and spending more than a year continually working and trying to get disability and being trapped in this "You are not doing badly enough yet to get help" that was my turning moment when I re-engaged my critical thinking faculties about society.
My son started down the Milo Yananopolis (or whoever) man-hole when he was 14ish. So many exhausting conversations. So many rebuttals, so many articles looked up. He is now a punk writing cyber security for beginners 'zines and is left of left. I'm so proud.
Yep. Especially considering all it measures is a very narrow band of pattern recognition and problem solving. Zero help when it actually came to not falling in with a shit crowd.
If you’re that old, you then know what it’s like when we didn’t carry the internet around with us. People who shared your viewpoint weren’t a pocket rectangle away. Now if you have a hateful mindset, you can find thousands of people who think like you online, giving a false sense of majority.
yes but having a pocket rectangle hasn't made me that way... The title says "what 20 years of internet does to a mf" No, it doesn't... What you said, sure, that'll do it to you. But "20 years of internet" isn't all it takes to produce this hatemonger. That hate started at home.
Efreeti
This is a nazi.
thechelonianshelmet
So based on his logic, if I were to get info on brain surgery, from reading books without reading any, & having no traditional experience at all, I can then decide he needs an emergency lobotomy without his consent, much as he stol... I mean stopped various things, that other people needed. Now where did I keep my random tool kit?
Silver420Surfer
doctorId
Reducing the national deficit from two trillion dollars to close to zero is an absurdly ridiculous idea in concept alone, let alone making a serious clam that that's a thing you've actually done, let alone making that claim when you're barely out of high school. I'd say he's too young to understand how dumb he sounds, but his boss has said dumber shit than this and he's ancient.
BeingABotIsRad
Worse. He admitted that he didn't reduce the National Deficit at all.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
I wAs OnLy ObEyInG oRdErs
AgamemnonsMemes
I seriously thought this was a skit at first.
SometimesISayDumbShit
God damn this little cocky fuck has never been corrected once in his life.
johnxbear
Here's a summary.
aerodynamit3
"there were no books." Clearly.
xj4low
and he wouldn't be able to name one of them if there was.
FrancsTireur
He perfectly illustrates the interviewers point, an experienced and composed political operative with a sound knowledge of what he did and why he did it would not walk head first into the woodchipper of inventing scholarly texts that support his position.
zenzombiesoup42
I think there was one.
BarnegatLight
I like the bit about "non-traditional learning" or whatever it was. Translation: I was homeschooled by conservative Christian religious fanatics.
Selfawerewolf
"I literally do not know any better."
brownribbon
He’s lying. There were books. He just doesn’t want to say which ones he read.
MikeRInternetTraveler
“I can’t remember the title… it was in German…”
Frencheeseater
Mein Kapital ? Mein Kopf ? Mein Kauf ?
DrKonrad
So stupid he can't begin to grasp how stupid what he says is. "I think..." no, you don't think, you just blindly applied racist and dicriminatory rules and were paid for it, and your racist ass liked every part of it.
michaelfire
it's actually called Dark Triad sociopathy- deceit, no shame or remorse, no conscience, no moral compass, no sense of right or wrong, no empathy- Steven Miller, Trump, Noem, Bannon, Zuckerberg- m/1462622/republicans-have-more-psychopathic-traits-than-democrats-according-to-a-psychologhttps://qz.com/1462622/republicans-have-more-psychopathic-traits-than-democrats-according-to-a-psychology-s">y-survey">https://qz.com/1462622/republicans-have-more-psychopathic-traits-than-democrats-according-to-a-psychology-survey https://www.salon.com/2021/05/18/why-the-republicans-big-lie-works-so-well-a-sociopathic-party-and-a-damaged-country/ racism, militarism, sexism, hate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad
Lugh314159
I've seen like four of these guys so far, and they all look like they came out of the same douche-bro factory.
hellsgunslinger
When I was 20 I knew 2 things, I "knew" better than most people and titties are awesome. Take a wild guess as to which one was actually true.
zFUBARz
Same, but it has to some of my friends, I don't know how they got their either. Actually I mostly do. right wing influencer bull shit and toxic masculinity. Funny enough it's the least "Manly" of them who fall for it, without fail.
thean
Anyone who knows anything about body language and facial expressions knows that they just watched a barely concealed smugness with strong psychopathic traits.
MrAcurite
Anyone who knows anything about the people who claim to know things about body language and facial expressions knows that what they claim to know is entirely pseudoscientific. You can tell that he's a smug asshole because he says and does smug asshole things.
Stanistani
Name and shame: Nathan Cavanaugh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nate_Cavanaugh
cyberninjaru
Shame, I tried to update his entry to show the co-conspirator Nazi that he is and got blocked from editing. Even Wikipedia hates the truth.
Stanistani
Oh, I help run a Wikipedia criticism site (Wikipediocracy) and I'd like to hear what happened. You can register for our forum at https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/ucp.php?mode=register
Efreeti
"Under Cavanaugh and Fox's leadership of the NEH, DOGE used ChatGPT to identify grants that were in violation of Trump's executive orders related to DEI..."
TheJusticeMitchell
TheMoonBnuuy
So let me get this straight... it's not inappropriate for someone with no experience to make such personal judgement calls because they can get the knowledge they need from books... but he personally didn't read any such books...
Am I getting this right?
rightinthefeels13
I absolutely don't agree with the DOGE or Trumelton BS but if I am listening to what the little sociopath said, it was that he didn't need to read any books to know that if the grant title said "DEI" then by definition it defied the EO against federal grants for DEI.
At least that is what I am hearing.
TheMoonBnuuy
he was asked if it's inappropriate for someone with no experience like him to make those calls. He said no because you can read books. He was asked what books. He said "there are no books"
Which means he was admitting to being unqualified by his own standards
RedPipe
What you are saying is true, and that was an admission to not being qualified to make personal judgement calls. However, he also says that he cancelled the grant due to it containing DEI-studies in opposition to the EO. The level of decision here doesn't seem to require judgement as far as I understand, it could be done by an Excel formula. "If it contains mentions of DEI and/or LGBTQ, cancel it". I disagree with that being a good thing to do, but it seems like he did what the EO said to do.
TheMoonBnuuy
right but my point is he admitted to being unqualified, and even contradicted his position that it's inappropriate for him to have that job or be making those decisions
RedPipe
I agree with you on this, but it seems to me there are two separate issues: A) Is he qualified to make actual judgment calls on cases that are in doubt? No, and he also admits that through his logic if not through his words. B) Is he qualified to cancel grants in simple cases where they are clearly covered by the EO (which is a bad EO)? Yes, but that is because that level of decision making seemingly requires no qualifications other than being able to read.
elpurofresh
This person is young, healthy. He'll live at least some more 60 or 70 more years, who knows. Imagine the possible damage to society he may be able to continue to do.
PointsAreForB1tches
Name this dickless Nazi.
jamiedBreaker
This part. I never even got the name of the other asshole from the last video
gtotherizzle
He looks 15. How is he in charge of anything?
TheVampireDante
musk must've liked how he played POE2.
doctorId
Because the only people who look up to Elon are people too stupid to know better
ROGUEdenied
He couldn't scoop ice cream at an ice cream shop, let alone be in charge of anything.
Roehcai
Most actual 15 year-olds I've known in my lifetime who would have made better, non-fascist decisions.
jalcantara88127001
Fucking weasels knew what they were doing was wrong. They just have no empathy
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thinkybrainpains
Nazis
Roehcai
You can see he's moving towards "just follow orders" as the video progresses. Which is, you know, literally known as "The Nuremberg Defense."
normalizebeingalone
You can clearly tell that he wants to laugh, and he probably did while he was cutting the programs too
xj4low
It didn't affect him so he doesn't care about destroying people's lives. Just a bunch of tech weasels hand-picked by the biggest weasel to destroy everything they can get their hands on.
crazyspelling
"I thought it was more important to reduce the deficit from $2T." How'd that work out for ya, Doge-hole?
guitarfourtysix
jalcantara88127001
Lol yeah. Also the part where he is like
I COULD have read books and gotten information to make a good decision.
Ok, what books did you read?
There were no books ...
BeKindToOthers
They don't think they are wrong. They think the policies/grants are wrong and they are individually right. They truly want meritocracy, but they think the only way to do that is to stop DEI and hire people like themselves.
mynamespaul
Most of them don’t “truly want meritocracy”. They‘ve had vague feelings of being mad (which they never tried to understand) forever, someone at some point weaponised those feelings towards some group (women, gays, blacks etc) and then afterwards DEI was the most compelling narrative to justify those irrational feelings. The hate comes first and the outcome is set dressing. It’s that same reason these “muh DEI” types only celebrate those who are self made/successful as heroes if they’re cis/white
zFUBARz
Because they're bigots... they think it has to be like themselves because they're homophobic, racist, misogynistic, etc. and so anything that indicates good can comes from thsoe thigns they hate, but be insane and a waste.
jalcantara88127001
We are definitely finding out that when they hate that much, it's because they secretly love it. So many closeted Republicans. Dictated by fear, fear that they are gay. So instead of coming to terms with it, they blame the world. They aren't gay, it's the world!
SeledkaRunner
giving H1tler Jugend
Vegemitecrumpet
Jesus Christ. This guy is a smug asshole with absolutely no shame. His demeanour feels truly insidious
idiotsonfire
Its like they intentionally trawled through the worst of the worst to find the worst psychopaths that fit their needs.
awholelotofnothin
In my dissertation I will state how Gamergate and other false narratives conducted by wealthy pedophiles created a base of incels from which Trump formed a new Hitler youth, that irrespective of all education or knowledge of sciences and culture set out to unethically and systemically destroy the lives of hundreds of millions of US citizens with the righteousness of ignorance and misinformation.
emberfish
This is just true
doctorId
Basically took a bunch of unfuckable dorks and programmed them to be even more unfuckable to harness the awesome power of mass sexual frustration to operate the orphan crushing machine in perpetuity.
BeachsideBarghest
I would read the hell out of that
SlavaUkrainisaysSteveBuscemi
PrimeGoat
That's stupid. Better reason: because aligning my opinions and preferences to a template made by someone other than me is retarded. Democrats just as ridiculous as Republicans and every other political party in existence. Everyone should have their own custom-made set of outlooks based on their own brain's decisions and not be part of any political party at all, ever. And if you feel withdrawals, visit a circus time to time.
horroricane
you sound so lonely. I pity you.
Tsiroch
I don't rape children should be added.
Bear1bear
AlwaysUpvotesCatgirls
These people are a bane on society. They won’t understand until they get hurt themselves.
DorgEndo
Oh no no...they will never understand so much so as that would mean admitting they were wrong at some point in time or misinformed. They would burn down the world and their whole lives before ever admitting they were not always 100% correct in all their actions
Margrave9000
Yup, the only way to reason with them is down the barrel of a gun. They have refused all attempts at civil discourse - it's on them!
allformmo34
Understand? May I summon the example of that fukwit Jake Lang.
hellsgunslinger
Nah, they'll just blame everyone else and say "see, we told ya so" or something other bullshit like that
xj4low
I say we start with their finger nails, then move onto their finger bones and joints.
laurapede83
Fun fact: I have a disease(AVN) in my joints that turns them into basically paper mache. Extremely painful!!! So far at 60yrs old I just had both hips replaced due to them being collapsed. Sitting, standing, even laying down was a +10 on the pain scale. Yes, I do wish this on these dumb fucks.
Monkeynutsjoe
What the actual fuck? He looks like a fucking TWELVE year old!
basti0731
He is 20+. Big enough to wear those prison jumpsuits.
Monkeynutsjoe
Then slap the weaselly little fucker in one. This is what you get for sucking Elon's dick.
TheMoonBnuuy
I've been on the internet since the early 90s and it didn't do this to me.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
For a brief time in rebellion of my parents I STARTED to slide into the pit. From about 19-22 I was probably one of the dumbest motherfuckers on the planet despite a high IQ whatever the fuck that is supposed to be worth. It took becoming disabled and spending more than a year continually working and trying to get disability and being trapped in this "You are not doing badly enough yet to get help" that was my turning moment when I re-engaged my critical thinking faculties about society.
idiotsonfire
For what its worth, IQ measures the supposed ability to learn in a scholastic environment. IQ is also statistically meaningless. Still.
idiotsonfire
You learned. You thought about others. You saw the cruelty inherent in the system and said "this is wrong," not "the gays/jews are evil."
textilelover
My son started down the Milo Yananopolis (or whoever) man-hole when he was 14ish. So many exhausting conversations. So many rebuttals, so many articles looked up. He is now a punk writing cyber security for beginners 'zines and is left of left. I'm so proud.
TheMoonBnuuy
just saying... IQ actually has nothing to do with intelligence
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Yep. Especially considering all it measures is a very narrow band of pattern recognition and problem solving. Zero help when it actually came to not falling in with a shit crowd.
modis
If you’re that old, you then know what it’s like when we didn’t carry the internet around with us. People who shared your viewpoint weren’t a pocket rectangle away. Now if you have a hateful mindset, you can find thousands of people who think like you online, giving a false sense of majority.
BeachsideBarghest
"that old"... THE AUDACITY!!!
TheMoonBnuuy
yes but having a pocket rectangle hasn't made me that way...
The title says "what 20 years of internet does to a mf"
No, it doesn't... What you said, sure, that'll do it to you. But "20 years of internet" isn't all it takes to produce this hatemonger. That hate started at home.
ShinksAvoHazaar
Is this big balls? Saw a different interview with one of the script kiddies. Where is big balls
Efreeti
Nah that was Edward Coristine. This is Nathan Cavanaugh.
Arenlor
We prefer to just call them skiddies.
TheMoonBnuuy
I think he got the shit beat out of him on the streets of DC and went into hiding
CP3oh
I hope you're right. That's a very punchable face he's got.
TheMoonBnuuy
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/08/05/trump-administration-staffer-known-as-big-balls-assaulted-in-dc-00494990
CP3oh
Sounds like a standard mugging, rather than someone beating his ass over what he did. Still, no sympathy from me.
TheMoonBnuuy
I didn't say why he got the shit beat out of him, just that he got the shit beat out of him :P