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Hapsnap
Lots of pedophiles there I quess
APassingPlasticBag
mechanator
No way, grey bearded old men want to make child abuse great again.
MsladyRiver
This is so gross. My heart breaks for these innocent children at the hands of disgusting men.
DJThuglifeSupreme
colas
FYI, 5 states in the USA have NO age limit to child marriage. And the GOP fight to keep it this way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
Starfox5
Indeed. And same as in Iraq, they justify it with an archaic religion.
BallsLikeWatermelonsPeckerLikeAThimble
agonarch
The US has surpassed them in a few areas, and they need to step their game up?
JoeMangoJello
Religion. Same thing that's wrong with our conservative wackos.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
LongTimeCallerFirstTimeLurker
Averagexception
Perversion
iceynyo
It's what happens to countries when the US invades and replaces anyone reasonably capable in their government with more easily manipulated idiots.
kaarbaakimgr
You need to read some history, bud.
JosXII
did they use a picture of a girl being allowed in school to represent child marriage?
brazzy42
if you want concrete information rather than ragebait: https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/iraq-women-campaigners-condemn-amendments-could-see-children-married - TD;DR: the law does not mention marriage age at all, but it would basically move the official responsibility for marriages from civil courts to religious communities, some of which have long since conducted marriages for under 14 year olds. These would then become recognized by the state, which they are currently not.
OKSasquatch
That just sounds like the intent of the ragebait post but with extra steps
Seanspeed
Well yes, that's how most terrible laws work - they aren't explicitly awful, they are couched in some other kind of rhetoric that seems more innocent on the surface, while knowing too many idiots will never dig deeper or connect the dots as to the real ramifications and intent behind the laws. It's why people who demand that news 'only state the facts' are being super naive. People need shit broken down for them sometimes.
Starfox5
That makes it even worse, you realise that, right?
fireflyseasontwo
Child brides have been common in both Israels where only religious marriage is allowed to be done. "In Rabbinic Judaism, males cannot consent to marriage until they reach the age of 13 years and a day and have undergone puberty. ... The same rules apply to females, except their age is 12 years and a day": https://forward.com/life/136547/jewish-child-brides-why-the-barbaric-practice-o/
Starfox5
Another fucked-up practice.
DeadWhiteMale
Thanks for the clarification. I wonder where the age of 9 in the meme comes from.
brazzy42
That's where some of the religious communities set the limit.
apairofpetducks
The first paragraph of the article: "Women and children's rights campaigners in Iraq have pushed back at proposals that could enshrine sectarianism in family relationships, hand more power in family matters to clerics and open the door for marriage to be legalised for children as young as nine years old."
apairofpetducks
Also "The proposed amendments could see those marriages - 22 percent of which, according to the UN, involve girls under 14 - legitimised by the state."
Gross
Fitzapollo
I would like to second that.
Gross
darthstormer
GOP:
Jaqdakloun
This is scarier than it is funny
GeneralWho
Oh, they wrote that down a long time ago.
cardinal29
Republicans: Always has been
MyPetPenguinIsLicensedToKill
Oh you know, "while the supply lasts".
OldBikerDude
Maga is right behind them
whatspaulplayingtoday
It's the same picture.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
They've already got that legal.
wiltsjunk
I hate that I laughed at that. +1
freshthrowaway1138
The Republicans don't have to pay attention because the age limits are already below 15, and the GOP has fought against raising them.
Mortbise
more like, frump: "we're lowering it to 7 then !"
astromoondoggie
OKSasquatch
Gaetz gonna buy himself a harem:
thechelonianshelmet
Comes near my family, he's going to get harmed.
HeadJamistan
Not sure which is creepier.... that smile or post-surgery Butthead
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TheRealArclight
" If she wasn't my daughter i would date her "
cunninglinguist85
ToeNailClippersOfThanos69
Yes, Joe can do creepy thing because other people do creepy thing worse. Shit is still: CREEPY
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TheRealArclight
seekingdaedalus
is this supposed to be evidence that biden is a pedophile? is there anything else that links him to it? Did he pal around with Epstein? Did he say in a TV interview that he goes backstage to inspect beauty pageant dressing rooms? Did he brag about being able to sexually assault women without consequences? Or is he just old-man cringy sometimes?
If this community learned of evidence that Biden was a pedophile they'd throw him from a cliff without question. Quit pretending it's partisan
yerpflop
I have no political ties and I’m here for the memes, but Imgur is not partisan lol. It’s as alt-left as you get. I have seen horribly violent and fascist things get hundreds of upvotes. It’s basically Truth Social for the left.
seekingdaedalus
1. Partisan doesn't mean what you think it means; your first two sentences are contradictory.
2. While the Imgur community absolutely IS partisan-left on most issues, "what to do with pedophiles" is not one of them. They do not hesitate to condemn it no matter who is guilty. "Quit pretending it's partisan" is a reference to the issue, not the site - that was vaguely worded.
3. The community leans left; not fascist. "Overthrow democracy" is not this camp. Capitalism, sure, not democracy.
mobiusstrip
Meanwhile California has no minimum age for marriage. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-08-03/why-child-marriage-is-still-legal-in-california-at-any-age
PetuniaPicklePants
That’s fucking disgusting.
TripleDane
how funny i swear conservatives in the us was trying to do the same... they think so a like
Poppypoppoppop
"Takes the first step to" should only be used to mention something good. Not pedo news.
Aeolys
They're hiding behind religion. So it is okie dokie, nothing to see here. /s
MrSatisify
paulhollywood9
She's however quiet on Pakistan's attack on minorities
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/06/end-escalating-attacks-on-minority-ahmadiyya-community/
VirtualGT
Another great quote from her “With guns you can kill terrorists, with education you can kill terrorism”
SneakyGaryTheSerialHorseDrowner
Ohhh that's a good one
ZitLicker
I'm going to get downvoted for this... The terorists won. Horrible things did happen to her, and as a result she lives in the UK. I struggle to comprehend how she can be much of an inspiration for pakistani girls. Making inspirational quotes in the west isn't going to change Pakistan. She would have to run for office there.. Like Benazir Bhutto.
darkdragonempress
The unfortunate thing about the human condition is there will always be people trying to seize control. To oppress others. The terrorists only win when others stop pushing and just let them take complete control.
jag176
Support for girls education increased in Pakistan, and the Taliban failed to kill her. As for Bhutto, well what happened to her?
kipagami
In her case now, the best way to change the lives of young girls in her country, is to pressure the international community to take a stand against something like allowing 9 year old girls to be married.
She can stay in her home country and try and help women and girls "on the ground" and face the very real possibility that she just becomes a Martyr. Or she can try and change the system that allows those same girls to be married off at 9, and hopefully improve their chances at a better life
Rezmic
Gross child fuckers
BuzzAldrinsPunch
Way too much vomit in my mouth. Which is my subtle way of saying that is fucking sick!
afambelafonte
westPAguy
ThomasTheWankEnglne
pedophiles the whole way down.
pareidoliaperson
You know that the woman about is a muslim right?? Who's fighting against this law?? If I say all Americans fucking pedophiles you'd defend it to hell with "nOt AlL oF uS". Yeah no shit it's the same thing over there buddy.
Icecreaman
I mean, have you been on the internet recently? Half the Minecraft YouTubers are pedophiles, Mr. Beast and his team are pedophiles, Dr disrespect and other twitch streamers are pedos, a good chunk of government officials in the southern states are pedos. They're everywhere and It's a global problem. 🙊
pareidoliaperson
what?? So that makes ALL Americans pedophiles?? I don't think you understood my point. These circle jerk sessions of imgurians really fucking dumb. How's all muslims are pediphiles but SOME Americans are pedophiles?? Why not say all Americans are pedophiles?? Because some of us but all of them mindset. Which is a huge cognitive bias. Fucking racists that's what it is.
Icecreaman
Uh, all Christian church pastors molest little boys is a common joke in the English speaking world, because it's partially true... I don't know what you want, the christians already get roasted about it.
arumunus
Good opportunity to point out that we STILL have four states in the USA where there is no minimum age for marriage if given parental and/or court consent.
BillyM00n
This sounds like it's being enabled primarily by religious groups. Seems like the kind of thing that a secular government would help address.
Seanspeed
A secular government in a region dominated by religious fundamentalism is obviously super difficult. We should address the reasons that the region has gone backwards towards such fundamentalism to begin with.
KipperFillets
I saw a documentary where old men were being married to young girls by an Imam. The reporter asked why they thought it ok to break the law, and the answer was Sharia law trumps the government law.
They seem to have no problem with it.
CplCarrot
Islam.
Poppypoppoppop
JPRiddles
"debate" about child brides?! What the fucking fuck? I'm disgusted and outraged, but worse, I'm exhausted of being disgusted and outraged.
GeneralWho
OblivionCityGuard
It's to protect them from "immoral relationship", for them it's better for a girl to be married as a child than for her to grow up and risk having a consensual relationship.
I just think it's crazy to have an idea of morality this distorted.
To me "God" has nothing to do with this, it is the deplorable results of the depravity and insecurities of an ultra patriarchal society.
Shaodyn
We're not going to make it, are we?
unluckyandbored
No.
darkdragonempress
We definitely can. An unfortunate reality is that there is always an ebb and flow in cultures. Good and bad present at different strengths. There is hope as long as people are fighting for it. Slavery was a globally accepted practice just a handful of generations ago. Now most nations ban it and it’s acknowledged as the evil that it is. Progress can be fast or slow. But progress can be made.
LordCrisp
Honestly thing the truth is worse... we are gonna make it... but at some point a person or group as messed up as this is gonna have too much control and power, and they'll keep us Post of alive and enslaved to only have to follow the rules that they make... and constantly change to suit their current deranged needs
Jandegrote
Do we even deserve to?
Shaodyn
Well, it's not like everybody is involved in this questionable decision. Probably not even the entire Iraq parliament, just a small yet influential minority.
Jandegrote
I don't just mean Iraq i mean all of us.
Shaodyn
Considering that various factions around the world want to do similar things...debatable.
TerrorArtist
Ah yes, there’s the sweet sweet democracy the US has been fighting for over there for the past 30 years!
SergeyPrkl
And adopted similar practices. Was it a school fieldtrip to learn new ways of life? Yes.
Seanspeed
I mean, that is how democracy works. It's still better than being under a literal theocracy where only the most fundamentalist types at the top get to make all the laws. And while I was against the war in Iraq, it's still undeniable that most Iraqis are better off nowadays than they were under Saddam.
Moochicat13
That's just sick to me why would an adult wanna marry a 9 year old?
iusedtodream
Because small peepee
Munchman347
To beat the rape charges?...
MBinks0
Younger marriages seem common in religions where polygamy is more common too. A birth rate that's roughly 50:50 means that some men won't ever have an opportunity for a female partner; so it seems like there's an incentive to lock in a marriage early. See for instance Mormon communities where polygamy is practiced.
DiceSMS
Lots of not-so-secret pedos out there. 🙃
ProphetofEntropy
to emulate the founder of their religion.
ChorizoPig
Ask a Republican. They've tried to lower the age to 12.
Hengabecka
To cement a deal with the girl's father and prevent her having any kind of relationship, especially sex, with anyone else before marriage. It may not be consummated for years (if the guy is halfway decent), but her future is locked in before she has a chance to understand the consquences so it's still abusive.
Feralkyn
This. A marriage in this case is often more of a political thing, not at all about romance or even sex until far later. It's often on paper only until then.
nelsie020
The word “often” doesn’t make this any less awful
Feralkyn
It's awful either way.
Dekker3D
So basically, "dibs".
ShadyEsperanto
exactly. you know how when you go out with friends there's always one guy that sees someone attractive and says "dibs" like it's somehow his choice? it's like that, only in this case it IS his choice and also he's at an elementary school
CedricDur
Because paedophiles.
givemepickles
Because their prophet Mohammad married a 6 year old girl, and consummated the marriage/raped her, when she was 9.
And the Koran says to imitate Mohammad.
🤮
gemaeuer
Sometimes pedophiles, sometimes closing a deal between two families early on.
nachosyndicate
Power & control.
DisgruntledFerret
I think the prophet Mohammed had a 9-year old bride, and that's specifically why. As for why the prophet wanted to, I dunno, go ask him.
TheDaharMaster
Well then, fuck Mohammed too. Sick fuck
Retrikaethan
spoiler alert: it's pedophilia.
Bovisstercus
IIRC Mohammed had one "marriage" marriage, to an older woman. After she died some 20 years later he married a whole bunch of women, seemingly mostly to strengthen political ties.
Lepercake
They're easier to groom at 9, presumably. As a non sequitur I would like to point out that neutering would work really well against rape.
nothingunused
It was very convenient that he kept making edits and carve-outs to the Koran to accommodate his own desires.
givemepickles
Oh it’s worse. I’m pretty sure she was a 6 year old bride. SIX!
And he consummated it at 9.
Sick sick sick.
They try to justify it by saying “well, she was really mature for her age.”
Textbook abuser bullshit justification.
Cutwail
She was still playing with dolls according to the Quran.
givemepickles
That’s so sad.
Like, that the Quran would even say something like that. And then perverts would argue, “she was mature enough to have sex consensually”
Sick sick sick.
Cutwail
Well, i've worse than that check "Sahih al-Bukhari 230"
givemepickles
Just googled it. Yep. 6.
Astramancer
It's weird though, islamic apologists keep making excuses like "oh, but they didn't consumate when she was 9" but then islamic countries keep being like "lemme get that 9 year old bride."
givemepickles
Just googled it. She was actually 6 when they got married. 9 when Mohammad consummated her marriage (raped her)
darkdragonempress
Well this is gross as fuck.
givemepickles
Actually, it’s a dishonor to good name of fuck.
But yeah. Terrible.
What’s even worse, is that it convinced who-knows-how-many religious Islamic fanatical, that they have to “do this” to “correctly follow their religion.”
So it keeps being… repeated. 🤮
genericanamoly
I had someone tell me that it was because people back then didn't live as long so they married like that. Yeah whatever dude.
givemepickles
The mental hoops some people jump through. 🙄
Scylia
average lifespan in the pre-industrial times was around ~60, when you account for and factor out the dramatically higher infant mortality
nobodyspecial995
Takes sollace in the knowledge that in countries where the age of marriage is lowered like that, they at least keep the age of sexual consent at 12! They're not monsters after all.
GriffCannon90
https://youtube.com/shorts/tla4_-5TvBw?si=8zTROXWHWKdvgxZu
MrBananaPants
"Consent"
OblivionCityGuard
I'm also sure that, as a 9yo girl, making rape accusations against your adult husband will be easy to do in a fundamentalist and highly patriarchal society.
PandaPolishesPotatoes
I mean, it is real easy to do. You just won't survive very long after the fact. On the off chance you do you're probably maimed. But hey, we should be respectful of their religious and cultural decisions here right? R-right?
Totallyscrewedinaustin
Nah, because of the region you need a witness to it in order for it to be "real". And the fun part is, you need two female witnesses, but only one male witness, because males are "better/more trustworthy" or some bullshit.
SupposablyPersnickity
That’s sarcasm, right? Right?!
Woogyface
it's sarcasm. consent doesn't exists for these countries
nobodyspecial995
Correct. The implied attitude is sarcastic, the facts are scary real for the girls who get raped legally.
PileOfWalthers
Sardonic, maybe, rather than sarcastic?
shorey66
Sarcasm aside. Children can't consent!!!!!!
givemepickles
I’m sure the police monitor such things in the privacy of people’s homes VERY CLOSELY.
NOT.
Also, not that 12 is any better.
carrotsonfire
When women are property, the only consent that counts is the man's.
Someshithead241
But are they not also the countries that say you can't rape your wife? Meaning it doesn't matter if the 9 year old bride can legally consent?
Valkyr1987
That's probably a large part of the change
ReleaseTheBeeees
There's so many people to fuck. Why do people have to fuck kids?
Dongslinger419mietiviel
Cornchip2000
Yes! Trust men's sexual self control! If there's one thing men are famous for it's sexual self-control!
Meyba
479001600 is very old for anyone to give consent
Sebastopol140
AWarningToOthers
West Virginia?
Badprenup
Mountain mama (age: 12)
CJFoxx11
No it’s not. They will be raping those children.
mrthewhitee
What solace is there in that?
JusticePhrall
No, they have standards. According to authentic Islamic hadiths, the Prophet Muhammad married a 6-year-old girl named Ayesha who was still playing with dolls. But he waited until she turned 9 to consumate the marriage.
thekreat
Well thank god. /Sssssssssssss
CplCarrot
Oh dear. Fatwa headed your way for pointing out an uncomfortable truth. That's a hate crime.
JusticePhrall
Ruh-roh
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
... That's not a thing the USA has.
apairofpetducks
What's not?
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
An age of sexual-consent. The USA just has a general age of consent, and children can be married to adults under it. There's nothing to protect them afterwards.
apairofpetducks
I don't think that's right... are you also thinking of the age of majority?
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
No: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States
IrateWolfe
That
Imissmylurk
This comment chain is gold. Thank you.
ritsbits808
Thank you for what?