Corporations and the rich aren't our friends. There's a reason the French built the guillotines. There is a reason we used to drag shitty bosses out in the street and kill them in front of their families. There's a reason we have safety and securities laws that we have; they were paid for in blood.
The fact remains that the better ones will keep the guardrails up because, depending on the extent of the recall, they can easily lose more money in the long run and their reputation in the process (and legal expenses) so it really pays to keep standards up regardless of 'regulatory' oversight here. (
No surprise. Food regulations, like work safety regulations, were written int he blood of the people they killed, corporations didn't care before regulations, they only cared while the regulations were in place because it cost them profit to break them, that most of them would just fall back into their old habits was a certainty.
I guarantee the CFO did the math. How much revenue loss from dead customers versus revenue gains from deregulation. Add in the cost of fighting lawsuits, etc. There's a spreadsheet.
The wealthy knowingly sold rotten meat in cans to the working class just to make more profit and didn't stop until they were regulated 🤣 anti-regulation dipshits simply have ZERO understanding of what regulation is, are, and are for. 😆
What I imagined would happen: fewer QC inspections or lax standards, resulting in a few isolated but gradually increasing number of incidents or recalls over time
What actually happened: companies IMMEDIATLY hucking shards of glass into the production line and shipping out poop lettuce
Recalls will go down drastically. If no one is testing then there is no way to tell what needs to be recalled. The incidents will go up, but again, no one will have any idea what is to blame.
I mean... I doubt they threw the glass in there intentionally, but they certainly instantly stopped paying someone to check.
Humans do apparently need to be reminded every century or so that their regulations are written in blood and suffering and coffins sealed forever in concrete. Fucking sucks that it's happening now, but something don't learn from it something repeat history
It's the age old problem of when things are going well, you can never know if you're doing too much but you sure as shit will notice when you aren't doing enough. So many greedy and selfish people not being able to learn lessons from others before them.
Um, the whole idea behind gutting regulations is to increase profits. Consumers have always just been walking wallets to them who are just temporarily holding on to the money that they want. We are all expendable and replaceable. They are squeezing the stone for blood now in order to find any way to increase profit margins. They are not content with steady profits, shareholders are only happy when the margins increase.
Even though I can't listen to his comedy anymore for... Reasons, every time I see a post like this I just hear Bill Burr screaming "how big does your yacht gotta be!?" In my head
I watched a documentary about how Phillip Morris the cigarette company purchased Kraft and some other brands. One of the goals was to make food more addictive and for food to dissolve or disappear instantly so your brain feels like it didnt eat anything. They hired literal scientists who published papers discovering new methods of making foods more addictive.
what fucks me right off is the complete lack of any kind of protest against anything atrocious that is done to the american population by the american population. They whine a little bit, moan quite a lot, but roll over in submission in a jiffy (to be in the correct position to roll over again for the next atrocious thing) and accept it as the new norm.
there's a hint as to why i can't organize protest in the US, i'll spell it out for you since you're apparently part of the too large number of american people who can't read above 6th grade level: i'm from europe. I do participe in protests over here tho. Now, since you're from over there, how many did you help organize ? it's your shithole country after all. why don't you unshithole it? Are you happy to live in a shithole perhaps? (i guess your gotcha moment backfired)
Ok, your opinion of what happens overeat is invalid, so stick to your country. Which one is it, anyway? As for protest, we have them every 2 years. It's called voting you incredibly ignorant fool.
what"s "overeat" ? Oh, and i would be glad to stick to my country, but the problem is your shithole is so full of shit, it affect everyone else in the world. So no the US is also my concern. And no, you don't vote. you have an abysmal turnover at each election. You're an illiterate fuck, shut up.
Americans have largely always been submissive cowards who rely on others to fight battles for them, but pretend they did something glorious when left to their own devices for a change. From its founding by people even extra-conservative churches thought were lunatics, America’s identity as a settled nation is one based in playing the victim card for things it did to itself.
Careful with that sentiment. There's a whole bunch of resident chucklefucks who will be happy to dogpile on you. If you're a US citizen, they'll tell you to "rally the citizens that can get together across fifty states and change all of this". If you're not, they'll tell you that "it's America's problem and not yours", so you should "shut the fuck up". Either way, fixing their own fuck-ups is too hard and you're not allowed to give them shit for their apathy.
I am resisting in the ways that I can. Being poor and with a disabled wife (who frequently needs me to stay home from work to help her), I don't have a lot of options here. What I am doing is learning to cook foods from scratch. Texas toast, chocolate chip cookies, hamburgers, pizza, meatloaf & other things. I tried Chicken & Dumplings the other day, it was wildly good - and cheaper per serving than the canned kind. I'm trying to grow vegetables, but not having much luck in that area.
Here in the US, you can buy it in frozen boxes, then bake them in your oven. Pretty tasty, but people pay $2-4 per box now days. Why pay that when I can make it myself for pennies? I have a bread maker, and I make a basic 1-pound loaf from it. This keeps for 5-6 days on the counter. When you want some, cut a thick slice, butter both sides, add a garlic seasoning blend (or whatever you want) and cheese to the top, then toast it in the oven for ~15 minutes. It's delicious
What this country lacks is community. We have all brought into the capitalistic mindset of trying to win by ourselves. People need to get out & meet their neighbors. Talk politics if they're open to it, and help each other protest where they can. I met my neighbors last year, they are quite friendly... but don't care much about politics.
Let's see... take unexcused time off to do a pile of protesting, lose job to someone else willing to work instead of protesting, lose your ability to pay your bills including rent/mortgage, become homeless and hungry as you lose everything?
don't give me the "spelling" bs while you fail to understand that the "you" i use it a generic "you" as in "you american people", not you personally (because i don't know you personally).
Prices also shot up through the roof due to "supply chain issues" during the pandemic but never went back down after all the bullshit went back to normal. They just used it to artificially inflate everything. Now the diarrhea lettuce laced fast food hamburgers start at $12 each instead of $2-$4 while nobody's wages increased except for the assholes up top.
And they'll go up again with the excuse that beef prices are high, which to people who look at the prices of beef in the store will make sense. They won't realize it's actually dirt cheap contaminated Argentinian beef or Definitely Not Horse Meat. All large corporations are a pump designed to move money up the chain to the 1%.
Deflation is bad, but waves not increasing somewhat close to productivity increase is worse. The average buying power of the work force is going down, despite them providing more labor and being more highly educated. A house of a hamburger having tripled in price compared to *whenever* wouldn't be an issue if minimum wage had also tripled and average wage had gone up, say, 2.8 times or something. Instead, minimum wage hasn't moved at all and average has gone up less than half of inflation.
Like how my rent has been skyrocketing since 2021, but now that prices in my area are dropping, they still want to raise it a little more. They know that moving is a huge expensive hassle and will I really go through with that to save $250 a month?
I’m an idiot? Are you a functioning adult that knows what’s involved in moving? First, last and security deposit. Likely not getting security deposit back from old place. Changing utilities with possible new deposits. Truck rental, finding people to help. Address change with DMV. Out of pocket minimum 4k plus all the paperwork, credit checks and other bullshit. Fuck off with your shitty advice!
Plus the cost of missing work to handle all that paperwork. I get it. Do you know any of your neighbors? I suggest starting there. Petitioning the landlord on your own is probably fruitless, but if his whole apartment complex does it together, he might listen. We gotta build some kind of renter's unions. If we can get whole cities to stand in unison, we can push landowners to lower their prices, one by one, and still give proper places to live
I never said apartment you condescending……Boomer! Haha that’s what you are. I make $32 an hour, have $20k in the bank and home ownership is STILL out of my reach! You made $200 a week and bought your first home for what? $180 a month? We are not the same. I’m trying to survive in the lousy world your generation allowed to happen.
What surprises me is, every one of you are quick to take to the internet to whinge, but no one does a damn thing and it keeps on and gets worse, and more are just writing on the wall, with nothing being done. I feel for you all, I do. But I’m starting to get sick of it!
hamulusrex
Just be thankful we're hearing about the damn recalls. Wait until they don't have to do that shit.
Hurch
Again... Citizens United.
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Corporations and the rich aren't our friends. There's a reason the French built the guillotines. There is a reason we used to drag shitty bosses out in the street and kill them in front of their families. There's a reason we have safety and securities laws that we have; they were paid for in blood.
TheSnacker
Regulations are like scabs. They are there because someone got hurt, and if you remove them, more blood will flow
stabbermcshooty
Almost like we had the regulations in place for a fucking reason or something
annielalala
The fact remains that the better ones will keep the guardrails up because, depending on the extent of the recall, they can easily lose more money in the long run and their reputation in the process (and legal expenses) so it really pays to keep standards up regardless of 'regulatory' oversight here. (
defaultname2000
but the shareholders!
varonicaED
No surprise. Food regulations, like work safety regulations, were written int he blood of the people they killed, corporations didn't care before regulations, they only cared while the regulations were in place because it cost them profit to break them, that most of them would just fall back into their old habits was a certainty.
SavageDrums
If we don't eliminate the parasite wealth class, they will eliminate us. (and then die off because they're incapable of doing any actual work)
glovelyday
If the government isn't protecting citizens then no one is. Food corporations are a far bigger daily threat to Americans lives than will Iran ever be.
TheUnrepentant
Lack of regulation is how we ended up with 12-year-olds in coal mines back in the day. This really shouldn't be a shock to any of us.
EdwardLongshanks
Is that guillotine ready yet?
PurpleRivers
No but the guillotine memes are
MrBoopyPutthole
If only we had multiple future dystopian tales that warned of this happening
TheWombatStrikesAgain
No, you silly optimist. They will kill every one of you in pursuit of the fraction of a cent.
VerySunBurned
I guarantee the CFO did the math. How much revenue loss from dead customers versus revenue gains from deregulation. Add in the cost of fighting lawsuits, etc. There's a spreadsheet.
Hecticombrage
But you can bet it'll get more expensive the second regulations come back
Revelant
And then prices will go up when regulations are returned because its now unprofitable.
scienceraptor
The wealthy knowingly sold rotten meat in cans to the working class just to make more profit and didn't stop until they were regulated 🤣 anti-regulation dipshits simply have ZERO understanding of what regulation is, are, and are for. 😆
LZorro
What I imagined would happen: fewer QC inspections or lax standards, resulting in a few isolated but gradually increasing number of incidents or recalls over time
What actually happened: companies IMMEDIATLY hucking shards of glass into the production line and shipping out poop lettuce
StellarJay77
Recalls will go down drastically. If no one is testing then there is no way to tell what needs to be recalled. The incidents will go up, but again, no one will have any idea what is to blame.
wabitgirl
I mean... I doubt they threw the glass in there intentionally, but they certainly instantly stopped paying someone to check.
Humans do apparently need to be reminded every century or so that their regulations are written in blood and suffering and coffins sealed forever in concrete. Fucking sucks that it's happening now, but something don't learn from it something repeat history
StellarJay77
It's the age old problem of when things are going well, you can never know if you're doing too much but you sure as shit will notice when you aren't doing enough. So many greedy and selfish people not being able to learn lessons from others before them.
TheDaharMaster
Thanks Reagan
Alektrauniccountermeasures
Cheaper??? They changed the ingredients, reduced the sizes, and raised the prices. Paying more for less of everything
StellarJay77
Um, the whole idea behind gutting regulations is to increase profits. Consumers have always just been walking wallets to them who are just temporarily holding on to the money that they want. We are all expendable and replaceable. They are squeezing the stone for blood now in order to find any way to increase profit margins. They are not content with steady profits, shareholders are only happy when the margins increase.
DodyShiratori
Even though I can't listen to his comedy anymore for... Reasons, every time I see a post like this I just hear Bill Burr screaming "how big does your yacht gotta be!?" In my head
PenguinNamedWobbles
I watched a documentary about how Phillip Morris the cigarette company purchased Kraft and some other brands. One of the goals was to make food more addictive and for food to dissolve or disappear instantly so your brain feels like it didnt eat anything. They hired literal scientists who published papers discovering new methods of making foods more addictive.
BuiltonSin
Cut to Belgium Burger King with edible food, $30/hour wage, still making profit argument
Shoutrr
what fucks me right off is the complete lack of any kind of protest against anything atrocious that is done to the american population by the american population. They whine a little bit, moan quite a lot, but roll over in submission in a jiffy (to be in the correct position to roll over again for the next atrocious thing) and accept it as the new norm.
HandsomePenguin
What? The ONE scheduled big protest that they advertise like its a sports event, show up for and pat themselves on the back for isnt enough?
dirtcreature
When was the last protest you helped organize?
Shoutrr
there's a hint as to why i can't organize protest in the US, i'll spell it out for you since you're apparently part of the too large number of american people who can't read above 6th grade level: i'm from europe. I do participe in protests over here tho.
Now, since you're from over there, how many did you help organize ? it's your shithole country after all. why don't you unshithole it? Are you happy to live in a shithole perhaps? (i guess your gotcha moment backfired)
dirtcreature
Ok, your opinion of what happens overeat is invalid, so stick to your country. Which one is it, anyway? As for protest, we have them every 2 years. It's called voting you incredibly ignorant fool.
Shoutrr
what"s "overeat" ? Oh, and i would be glad to stick to my country, but the problem is your shithole is so full of shit, it affect everyone else in the world. So no the US is also my concern. And no, you don't vote. you have an abysmal turnover at each election. You're an illiterate fuck, shut up.
dirtcreature
Which country is yours, genius?
futhor
We are a submissive and cowardly people
brownribbon
Land of the fee and the home of the Whopper
TheMilliner
Americans have largely always been submissive cowards who rely on others to fight battles for them, but pretend they did something glorious when left to their own devices for a change. From its founding by people even extra-conservative churches thought were lunatics, America’s identity as a settled nation is one based in playing the victim card for things it did to itself.
WoeToHice
Careful with that sentiment. There's a whole bunch of resident chucklefucks who will be happy to dogpile on you. If you're a US citizen, they'll tell you to "rally the citizens that can get together across fifty states and change all of this". If you're not, they'll tell you that "it's America's problem and not yours", so you should "shut the fuck up". Either way, fixing their own fuck-ups is too hard and you're not allowed to give them shit for their apathy.
mindstorm8191
I am resisting in the ways that I can. Being poor and with a disabled wife (who frequently needs me to stay home from work to help her), I don't have a lot of options here.
What I am doing is learning to cook foods from scratch. Texas toast, chocolate chip cookies, hamburgers, pizza, meatloaf & other things. I tried Chicken & Dumplings the other day, it was wildly good - and cheaper per serving than the canned kind.
I'm trying to grow vegetables, but not having much luck in that area.
00LimaRomeo
Greetings from Australia. What is this Texas toast you speak of? It is intriguing.
mindstorm8191
Here in the US, you can buy it in frozen boxes, then bake them in your oven. Pretty tasty, but people pay $2-4 per box now days. Why pay that when I can make it myself for pennies?
I have a bread maker, and I make a basic 1-pound loaf from it. This keeps for 5-6 days on the counter. When you want some, cut a thick slice, butter both sides, add a garlic seasoning blend (or whatever you want) and cheese to the top, then toast it in the oven for ~15 minutes. It's delicious
mindstorm8191
What this country lacks is community. We have all brought into the capitalistic mindset of trying to win by ourselves. People need to get out & meet their neighbors. Talk politics if they're open to it, and help each other protest where they can. I met my neighbors last year, they are quite friendly... but don't care much about politics.
RAJrios
A community that seizes the means of production...
LivingDeadX
But there’s just so many of them now
MrTenant2
Let's see... take unexcused time off to do a pile of protesting, lose job to someone else willing to work instead of protesting, lose your ability to pay your bills including rent/mortgage, become homeless and hungry as you lose everything?
Not hard to understand really.
Shoutrr
or, you can strop trying to find excuses as to why you do absolutely nothing at all and you organize around that.
MrTenant2
Spelling. Plus, you know nothing of me and what I do. Go be ignorantly judgey somewhere else.
Shoutrr
don't give me the "spelling" bs while you fail to understand that the "you" i use it a generic "you" as in "you american people", not you personally (because i don't know you personally).
mirrorz
Prices also shot up through the roof due to "supply chain issues" during the pandemic but never went back down after all the bullshit went back to normal. They just used it to artificially inflate everything. Now the diarrhea lettuce laced fast food hamburgers start at $12 each instead of $2-$4 while nobody's wages increased except for the assholes up top.
friendsofsandwiches
Oh you can GET cheap hamburgers, SURE.
You just have to be on their app monitor system.
The same one that tracks EVERY food purchase you do.
thedudeman519
Well how else are insurance companies going to deny treatments for health problems due to peoples' dietary choices?
mglaive
And they'll go up again with the excuse that beef prices are high, which to people who look at the prices of beef in the store will make sense. They won't realize it's actually dirt cheap contaminated Argentinian beef or Definitely Not Horse Meat. All large corporations are a pump designed to move money up the chain to the 1%.
brownribbon
People keep forgetting that prices going down in general would be catastrophic for the economy.
Bubble181
Deflation is bad, but waves not increasing somewhat close to productivity increase is worse. The average buying power of the work force is going down, despite them providing more labor and being more highly educated. A house of a hamburger having tripled in price compared to *whenever* wouldn't be an issue if minimum wage had also tripled and average wage had gone up, say, 2.8 times or something. Instead, minimum wage hasn't moved at all and average has gone up less than half of inflation.
Rhythmaster
Yeah deflation isn't good, but if it just went back to "normal" I think that would be fine
Jagadid
You mean big number which goes up? Yeah that matters if your net worth is above 750 million
brownribbon
Which big number?
andwings2go
Like how my rent has been skyrocketing since 2021, but now that prices in my area are dropping, they still want to raise it a little more. They know that moving is a huge expensive hassle and will I really go through with that to save $250 a month?
fudgycurmudgeon
$250 a month is a lot of money, you’re a lazy idiot if you don’t move.
andwings2go
I’m an idiot? Are you a functioning adult that knows what’s involved in moving? First, last and security deposit. Likely not getting security deposit back from old place. Changing utilities with possible new deposits. Truck rental, finding people to help. Address change with DMV. Out of pocket minimum 4k plus all the paperwork, credit checks and other bullshit. Fuck off with your shitty advice!
mindstorm8191
Plus the cost of missing work to handle all that paperwork. I get it.
Do you know any of your neighbors? I suggest starting there. Petitioning the landlord on your own is probably fruitless, but if his whole apartment complex does it together, he might listen.
We gotta build some kind of renter's unions. If we can get whole cities to stand in unison, we can push landowners to lower their prices, one by one, and still give proper places to live
fudgycurmudgeon
Yes, I am a functioning adult, and could therefore afford to move if there were a cheaper apartment that fulfilled the same needs my current one does.
andwings2go
I never said apartment you condescending……Boomer! Haha that’s what you are.
I make $32 an hour, have $20k in the bank and home ownership is STILL out of my reach! You made $200 a week and bought your first home for what? $180 a month? We are not the same. I’m trying to survive in the lousy world your generation allowed to happen.
Jagadid
Then you are far more priveledged than you realize.
Sebastopol140
The only surprise for me here is that people are surprised by this.
dposton70
"But in a TRUE free market..."
Evi1Gav
Every safety rule was written in blood and forced on corporations, because they would never fix the issues willingly.
GrimleyGraves
I'm surprised you're surprised that people are surprised by this.
stabbermcshooty
Surprised
Frencheeseater
tizme
What surprises me is, every one of you are quick to take to the internet to whinge, but no one does a damn thing and it keeps on and gets worse, and more are just writing on the wall, with nothing being done. I feel for you all, I do. But I’m starting to get sick of it!
Psionickitten
That doesn't even surprise me....
EdwardLongshanks
I'm surprised you said that.
PurpleRivers
Supplies, motherfucker
Psionickitten
Some fries, motherfucker!