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aNamelessCreature
I don't hate star wars. I just hate star wars fans.
VitaminJay
[Tim_Zahn has enter the chat]
hippy80
I only hate the last 3 films of the main story. Because they were shit. Really Shit. I'm willing to forgive pretty much every thing else!
TitanKyojin
The only thing I like about Star Wars is Darth Vader and lightsabers. I've only watched 3 of the movies.
68people
I like the potential star wars has, and a couple of scenes. Duel if the fates, and vader in rougue one specifically.
carrotsonfire
Star Wars fans are what make Star Wars bad.
LordoftheDance
Or... MAYBE... if the vast majority of fans loath something then it wasn't very true to the franchise.
gryphon88
Those last two just weren't good. Here's to hoping knights of the old republic gets a movie made by a competent team.
usernaimunavailable
I hate star wars and am def not a fan
DrSchlepenstein
And here I thought it was don't be a cunt.
WTFisUnderwear
Guess Im not a true Star Wars fan.... Unless you count Jar Jar.
parkerh17
Imgur: omg let ppl enjoy things, not everyone has the same tastes. Also imgur: GoT... Rap Music...
Arcygenical
Ahhh fuck. TIL I'm a star wars fan
roboticKittenTamer
It doesn't say everyone who hates Star Wars is a fan though.
Oh thank god. +1
Make everyone a fan of your series with this one simple trick!
iMirrelephant
0coke
AZRAELSBLADE
komododave
v
zaqx
PressMyButtonsBaby
Eddie Griffin, intent stare, devouring popcorn
photog
redpandabanana
jherazob
I'm afraid someone asking me why am I laughing so much now, this is like a tier 3 reference
arcgap
Rhythmaster
You can't fool me, that's obviously Gurney Halleck.
YouTubeRed
madbydesign
I don't hate Star Wars, just the fans who have the compulsive need to spam their opinion at every conceivable moment.
ButtholeButts
It's not like you need anyone's permission to enjoy something. But public sentiment is important, because artists should learn from it.
Assuming the feedback being given is an accurate critique, of course. Mostly it's people attacking each other for liking something though.
Youhavinagiraffe
I'm pretty sure that's just because you haven't heard my clearly superior opinion yet. Allow me to explain... (1/400)
MK1Maniac
Pardon me while I offer a short-form rebuttal (1/200)
SequoiaHughes
I just hate the toxic part where people downvote others whose opinions are different, or un-ironically tell them their opinion is wrong
PerpetuityPhoto
I don't hate SW fans, just the ones who take it WAY too seriously. It's a bunch of movies about space wizards. It's not that deep.
It's like Star Trek. Sure, Measure of a Man was good, but for every one of those, there're like three Tuvix's.
(Y'all forget that series had a sentient hate-slime monster.)
DrArsMoriendi
I've been gatekeeping since before that kid was born. It's an art form. I've perfected it into gatekeeping about gatekeeping
Imalwaysready
THAT is how you plan on keeping new fans out of the fandom? Pathetic.
I'll tumblr-shame you :(
NarratedByManyDrunkSteamedHams
Oh you’re a gate keeper? Name 5 gates. That’s what I thought.
We have several one this street. I call them Harry, Barry, Larry, Gary and little miss Terri
LicensedToChill007
Like all things, some are good, some not. LOVED Rogue One. Hated VIII. Loved ep3, hated ep2. Not everything is gold except gold leader.
I'm willing to forgive everything but the final 3 films of the main story. Rise of the Skywalker might actually be a crime against humanity
Episode IX - The Fan Service Awake and On PCP
That's why I didn't care for any of the new trilogy films EXCEPT the 2nd one. VII and IX were nothing by warmed over rehashes of things >
we'd already seen and blatant fanservicing. I was ready to see a franchise that had grown and organically evolved, but what Abrams gave was>
just microwaved leftovers. Johnson's film had other problems, but at least it was trying to organically grow the story and not just give us>
hwatL4bloopy
I enjoy the prequels now that I know it could be worse.
CoarseAndSalty
Still love Star Wars: A new Hope, just have standards. Crazy, insano, slutty low standards, that Disney fails on fire.
proxykalevra
Star wars was amazing had an excellent expanded universe with minimal issues and then decided to suicide repeatedly starting with episode 1
mmartin762
I can honestly say I'm a star ward fan that doesn't hate star wars. I never hated the prequels, and grew to love them more and more as I 1/
Watched the lore videos and analyses on YouTube, combined with the clone wars series which fleshes out the story. Yeah the new ones aren't 2
Great but I understand why and I don't hate them for it. 3/3
MrJwinkyface
I love Star Wars but the fan base is the most toxic hive of scum and villainy
Zreen
I like the world Star Wars created and the collaboration that permeated the 90s and early 00s with books, comics, and games
PontifexEroticus
Don't talk about those! The mouse has ears everywhere...
wlfman
opinions on the prequels/sequels aside - my one gripe is that Disney looked at that wealth of source material and just went "na, we're good"
I understand their reasoning, but the "how" left much to be desired
and the kicker is they've basically recreated the bigger characters like Thrawn in their own books and whatnot, capitalizing on nostalgia
sarkonas
Well that's hardly fair, right now SW franchise has 3 very different, very divisive trilogies. Of course you're never gonna be a 100% fan
LupusGrey
That's the true test of any fandom. The ability to accept all parts of it. And Star Wars fans fail spectacularly at this.
Sauroctonus
You don't have to like all of it. Just don't get so hung up on the bits you don't like.
Exactly. You don't have to like all of it to accept that it is part of the same fandom.
CaptainStinkyVonPoopberg
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Well... JJ Abrams is a fan so yeah correct.
Shaodyn
kingbudo101
Rey is as well written as any Star Wars primary protagonist. By that I mean terribly
to the downvoters
Lexgeddon
I agree with the original comment, in a manner of speaking, but I've never been fond of this mentality, here. People don't downvote1
because of the unbearable truth-bombs you're dropping, they downvote because they don't agree.
NeverEnoughFoxes
Carrying on the George Lucad tradition!
the great George Lucad
Lucas. A can never type well on mobile. :[
GCRust
I love people give Rey shit for fixing the Falcon "with the Force" when Luke No Scoped a two meter hole going Mach Fuckoff.
Lets not forget the chosen one at 10 blowing up a space station
"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
Oh yeah, not to mention the other pilots using their lives as shields to buy him time for that shot.
Ah yes. Clearly it's fine because EVERYONE ELSE gave their lives so he could have a crowning moment of awesome. Totally not OP.
Great job missing the point. You're trying to call Luke OP as if he'd done this amazing thing alone while forgetting the efforts of (1)
others so he could even make the attempt. He was not the first one that pilots made the same sacrifice for. "so he could have a crowning (2)
SMarkt
rey knows whats worth scavenging from a star destroyer. why shall she not be able to repair tech stuff?
Now now, to ask questions is not the proper Star Wars fan way. Only mindless rage.
Can we remember that the shot itself was about the only thing he did "on his own"? He was part of a larger attack with specific planning,(1)
had to be rescued a couple times, had the benefit of intelligence from prior runs, and wouldn't have even made the shot if Obi-wan wasn't(2)
coaching him. He's likely got his own Gary Stu moments but Jesus this isn't one of them.
how is a guy who has never been to space before, Instantly knows how to dog fight and use the force after a half a day of training not a
iamthisguy247
I don’t hate Star Wars, but I often hate other fans. Get sick of hearing how “you don’t really understand” for liking/disliking a movie.
Hoiloidl
When people tell me how great and philosophical Blade Runner 2049 is while I only find it boring, especially compared to the first one.
Iamatinylittlebanana
Good good let the hate flow through you.
Zadwanaa
Typical.. you really dont understand fans. ?
JLB36602
Only true Star Wars fans deal in absolutes...
ThaWhiteRanger
Listen here you little sith
afsdpckapjadfkasef
I hated the fuck out of the new ones but loved the money they throw at it it was nice to look at
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Unpopular opinion: TLJ is the best star wars movie.
I do like that it subverts genre tropes, but it doesn't replace them with anything new or interesting. It's a baby/bathwater situation.
I disagree. The first thing TLJ does is humanize the heros and makes them relatable. Luke shows his first character development since ep4. >
It freed Rey from being the new Luke, made Ren a character with dimension, and pointed out that a solo character doesn't make sense as>
A military leader. It returned to world building, focusing on details like gambling planets and blue milk. The complete dismissal of the >
Anonymouse64
Yeah, I got so sick of everyone bellyaching about TLJ that it put me off the whole series.
Kurnis
maybe..just maybe..it was TLJ that put you off the whole series. naaaaaaaaah... "it's the FANS who are wrong!"
No, cause I liked TLJ.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
I don't understand this comment. Oh well.
Einstein9073
I could not possibly care less about the Red Sox baseball team, but Red Sox fans are purely awful and I loathe their presence
HappyBucket
"You don't really understand." - yeah, maybe I don't at some points. I don't see how that changes things. Some things are fucking weird.
SpecialContainmentProcedures
I think it really just boils down to people wanting different things out of Star wars.
Remmikins
I hate the Gatekeeping not the Fandoms themselves
Unmute
I don't think I will.
Fine by me. You do you
KevorkianScarf
I’m glad I did. The chuckles were worth it.
Lots of fans think they're at war and want every part of the franchise to be for them and them alone. I can't remember the last time...
...I saw someone praise something Star Wars related without adding in a pointless mean-spirited dig at some other part of the franchise
PimpinKen
I find it funny when I make a hoke about stormtroopers missing the broadside of a barn and all the fact checkers come crawling out to >
Housemaster
People love to invent complex explanations for simple cinematic decisions.
"Why do Stormtroopers miss!?!?" It creates visual conflict and doesn't stop the story by killing the main characters ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
valanthos
Yeah plot armour is a thing, crack troops in most fiction fail to kill protags regardless of elite training.
Or the ever prevalent "shoulder wound" our heroes suffer (and recover).
xDaisyMae
Wait i thought that was normal? Is there actually a reason ?
For the stormtroopers aim.
Sigge1981
Yeah. It would be a pretty short movie if all the main characters were killed
It's implied at least on the rescue mission to save princess leia that they were deliberately let go to track them back to the rebel base.
Correct me. It's a fucking joke that we can all laugh at, give it a fucking rest
gravyandfries
Wait, what’s their reason for the storm troopers sucking at aiming?!?
yoshtan4
Multiple reasons, one of the books had one of the squads that eventually defected miss on purpose because they didn't actually want to kill
LiterallyAWizard
Ironically, the only reason I jump on that joke is because people won't give it a rest, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
50m31AW
That anti-imperial propaganda has no place in this galaxy, rebel scum
That's probably the best response I've ever heard. Doesn't change the fact that you're an imperial dog!
fryedman
sfrinlan
There's two camps to most fandoms, the hardcore who dive into, connect, justify the lore. And those who just enjoy a decent enough movie.
I feel like if you walk out of the theater and had a good time, it was worth it, even if it doesn't hold up under scrutiny
Snowman2388
For me I really enjoyed the first 2 sequel movies but was thrown off from the 3rd because it had almost nothing to do with the other 2.
Badprenup
From my understanding that's because so many people disliked 8 that rather than finishing out that story they just told a different one
That's why I didn't like 9. To me 7 and 8 go together but then 9 brings back palpatine
CameForNatalieDormer
Honestly, I like the scrutiny. Not every story needs to be a master piece, but standards of story telling help to bring us better stories.
I hear you, and I feel that it's okay for some stories to be pure pulp. That said, consistency between franchise iterations is desirable.
What I don't like is the gatekeeping. By all means be 150 books deep into Star Wars lore, but don't tell someone else they enjoy it wrong.
100% agree. I hate fans who tell other fans they are doing it wrong, or who get upset when the thing they love becomes popular. I was >
Oh man, fandoms are so toxic these days.
BednaR
Depends what you mean. If you hate trash like TLJ ...that's ok. If you hate on Rogue one... that's very much not ok.
Well now that you mention it, the gatekeeping is a huge part of what I mean.
notkvothethebloodless
Yall remember when rebecca sugar was recieving death threats if she didnt fuse certain characters in steven universe?
ToonamiT0M
Fandoms are not toxic. Loud asshats within a fandom get attention from the media which they use for click bait.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Always have been
CommentGuru
Star Wars is one of the largest and thus one of the worse.
stankginchfurbuger
Dune fandom is great. All dick jokes, beans and drivel. We accept that our true love is really quite silly but you can't stop true love
Yeah, so far Dune fans have been pretty chill. I like that.
OminousBanjo
It’s because we’ve existed for decades in obscurity and now are just pumped to be able to have something new
CptRobotNinja
They really are. It's just groups of dude bitching about the thing they allegedly like
AsianLeprechaun
To be fair, Disney has given us reason to bitch about SW.
enybi
Any kind of conglomeration of humans tends to have a few dicks, look at the hate mail and threats to Yoko Ono over the Beatles break-up
And the bigger the conglomeration the higher the chance of assholes being among them.
Law of Large Numbers
These days? "Comic Book Shop Guy" has been a trope since before Star Wars even hit theaters.
Xerxes4242
1/2 Disney makes a shitty sequel trilogy with lame characters, no direction. People get angry. Suddenly everyone's toxic.
2/2 "just be happy with whatever we give you" isn't what you tell someone who's paying to for your movie or product.
It was toxic long before the sequels.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
These days? This is not a new thing.
I used to have fun in some fandoms. Some of them are still fun.
osmbln
Always been.
Zixtank
... These days? As opposed to?
Earlier days. Although those might be rosetinted. Can't tell for sure. Probably.
Mayokopp
I'd say it's a bit of both, but nowadays the toxicity is not only more transparent but also amplified depending on the community
I'm not even a starwars fan and even I can tell that it would be bizarre to be a fan of the og series AND the way it was rebooted.
zenprime
This is why I just like shit. Ain't dying on no hill for some stupid ass shit I just enjoy.
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Preach, yo. I like shit because "I" like shit, not because of any group.
HaniiPuppy
MyKinkIsKinkshaming
I forget about this dumb shit and I'm delighted every time I see it again
It came back to mind for me recently because youtube's suggestions algorithm insists that I absolutely must watch this video all the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQH57y2d7Y
BabyWitchErika
i mean, i hate the ''recent'' star wars, and used to love the star wars. but then disney said you're wrong, and bad. So fuck 'em
Rogue one was amazing. TLJ was trash.
CaptainSomebody
Rise was trash, TLJ would have been fine if it weren't the second of a trilogy, Awakens was fine. At least the Disney+ shows are fire.
LordofSadFace
even as a standalone movie with original characters, TLJ was a story telling disaster, it pulled a lot of stuff out of its ass, (1/2)
it focused more on destroying the past than creating a future and it seemed to have a degenerative political agenda (2/2)
TLJ had so much stupid stuff tho... so many weird and stupid ideas...Leia flying in space, the space chase, LUKE treatment, hyperspace crash
Varimothras
So Jedi could jump really far and run really fast in the prequels on land, but Leia can't magnetize herself to a ship in space?
UltraLincoln
Kirby fandom is still a delight!
fiddlewheelx
Well he is gods favorite creation! *Poyo!*
Bestiarium
But not entirely - strangely, I've had people become pretty angry at me about tiny and insignificant details in the Kirby lore. I strife
to not be that kind of person. Nothing enjoyable about trying to push people out of your fandom.
Especially when it's about Kirby - who doesn't like Kirby!
E4r3nd1l
To be fair, how can you be angry at the cute pink BEAST THAT DEVOURS ELDER GODS...
Look, as long as you don't interrupt his meals or destroy his desserts he's pretty chill
Elasmobranchii
Glad to hear it
JollyRogarrgh
Too oversexualized
Stupid sexy Kirby
Throwawayheyya
The Kirby fandom sucks.
potentiallyunsafe
Damn, things are heating up in the Kirby fandom here.
kamesha
I don't think he's a Kirby fan bro. He's just Kirby trollin
MrRandom314159
I will devour you and consume your hatred.
aaaaaadddvvveennnttuurrreeee
Markamanic
BYYEEEEEEEEE
aNamelessCreature
I don't hate star wars. I just hate star wars fans.
VitaminJay
[Tim_Zahn has enter the chat]
hippy80
I only hate the last 3 films of the main story. Because they were shit. Really Shit. I'm willing to forgive pretty much every thing else!
TitanKyojin
The only thing I like about Star Wars is Darth Vader and lightsabers. I've only watched 3 of the movies.
68people
I like the potential star wars has, and a couple of scenes. Duel if the fates, and vader in rougue one specifically.
carrotsonfire
Star Wars fans are what make Star Wars bad.
LordoftheDance
Or... MAYBE... if the vast majority of fans loath something then it wasn't very true to the franchise.
gryphon88
Those last two just weren't good. Here's to hoping knights of the old republic gets a movie made by a competent team.
usernaimunavailable
I hate star wars and am def not a fan
DrSchlepenstein
And here I thought it was don't be a cunt.
WTFisUnderwear
Guess Im not a true Star Wars fan.... Unless you count Jar Jar.
parkerh17
Imgur: omg let ppl enjoy things, not everyone has the same tastes. Also imgur: GoT... Rap Music...
Arcygenical
Ahhh fuck. TIL I'm a star wars fan
roboticKittenTamer
It doesn't say everyone who hates Star Wars is a fan though.
Arcygenical
Oh thank god. +1
roboticKittenTamer
Make everyone a fan of your series with this one simple trick!
iMirrelephant
0coke
AZRAELSBLADE
komododave
zaqx
PressMyButtonsBaby
Eddie Griffin, intent stare, devouring popcorn
photog
redpandabanana
jherazob
I'm afraid someone asking me why am I laughing so much now, this is like a tier 3 reference
arcgap
Rhythmaster
You can't fool me, that's obviously Gurney Halleck.
YouTubeRed
madbydesign
I don't hate Star Wars, just the fans who have the compulsive need to spam their opinion at every conceivable moment.
ButtholeButts
It's not like you need anyone's permission to enjoy something. But public sentiment is important, because artists should learn from it.
ButtholeButts
Assuming the feedback being given is an accurate critique, of course. Mostly it's people attacking each other for liking something though.
Youhavinagiraffe
I'm pretty sure that's just because you haven't heard my clearly superior opinion yet. Allow me to explain... (1/400)
madbydesign
MK1Maniac
Pardon me while I offer a short-form rebuttal (1/200)
SequoiaHughes
I just hate the toxic part where people downvote others whose opinions are different, or un-ironically tell them their opinion is wrong
PerpetuityPhoto
I don't hate SW fans, just the ones who take it WAY too seriously. It's a bunch of movies about space wizards. It's not that deep.
PerpetuityPhoto
It's like Star Trek. Sure, Measure of a Man was good, but for every one of those, there're like three Tuvix's.
PerpetuityPhoto
(Y'all forget that series had a sentient hate-slime monster.)
DrArsMoriendi
I've been gatekeeping since before that kid was born. It's an art form. I've perfected it into gatekeeping about gatekeeping
Imalwaysready
THAT is how you plan on keeping new fans out of the fandom? Pathetic.
DrArsMoriendi
I'll tumblr-shame you :(
NarratedByManyDrunkSteamedHams
Oh you’re a gate keeper? Name 5 gates. That’s what I thought.
DrArsMoriendi
We have several one this street. I call them Harry, Barry, Larry, Gary and little miss Terri
LicensedToChill007
Like all things, some are good, some not. LOVED Rogue One. Hated VIII. Loved ep3, hated ep2. Not everything is gold except gold leader.
hippy80
I'm willing to forgive everything but the final 3 films of the main story. Rise of the Skywalker might actually be a crime against humanity
LicensedToChill007
Episode IX - The Fan Service Awake and On PCP
Imalwaysready
That's why I didn't care for any of the new trilogy films EXCEPT the 2nd one. VII and IX were nothing by warmed over rehashes of things >
Imalwaysready
we'd already seen and blatant fanservicing. I was ready to see a franchise that had grown and organically evolved, but what Abrams gave was>
Imalwaysready
just microwaved leftovers. Johnson's film had other problems, but at least it was trying to organically grow the story and not just give us>
hwatL4bloopy
I enjoy the prequels now that I know it could be worse.
CoarseAndSalty
Still love Star Wars: A new Hope, just have standards. Crazy, insano, slutty low standards, that Disney fails on fire.
proxykalevra
Star wars was amazing had an excellent expanded universe with minimal issues and then decided to suicide repeatedly starting with episode 1
mmartin762
I can honestly say I'm a star ward fan that doesn't hate star wars. I never hated the prequels, and grew to love them more and more as I 1/
mmartin762
Watched the lore videos and analyses on YouTube, combined with the clone wars series which fleshes out the story. Yeah the new ones aren't 2
mmartin762
Great but I understand why and I don't hate them for it. 3/3
MrJwinkyface
I love Star Wars but the fan base is the most toxic hive of scum and villainy
Zreen
I like the world Star Wars created and the collaboration that permeated the 90s and early 00s with books, comics, and games
PontifexEroticus
Don't talk about those! The mouse has ears everywhere...
wlfman
opinions on the prequels/sequels aside - my one gripe is that Disney looked at that wealth of source material and just went "na, we're good"
Zreen
I understand their reasoning, but the "how" left much to be desired
wlfman
and the kicker is they've basically recreated the bigger characters like Thrawn in their own books and whatnot, capitalizing on nostalgia
sarkonas
Well that's hardly fair, right now SW franchise has 3 very different, very divisive trilogies. Of course you're never gonna be a 100% fan
LupusGrey
That's the true test of any fandom. The ability to accept all parts of it. And Star Wars fans fail spectacularly at this.
Sauroctonus
You don't have to like all of it. Just don't get so hung up on the bits you don't like.
LupusGrey
Exactly. You don't have to like all of it to accept that it is part of the same fandom.
CaptainStinkyVonPoopberg
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Well... JJ Abrams is a fan so yeah correct.
Shaodyn
kingbudo101
Rey is as well written as any Star Wars primary protagonist. By that I mean terribly
kingbudo101
to the downvoters
Lexgeddon
I agree with the original comment, in a manner of speaking, but I've never been fond of this mentality, here. People don't downvote1
Lexgeddon
because of the unbearable truth-bombs you're dropping, they downvote because they don't agree.
NeverEnoughFoxes
Carrying on the George Lucad tradition!
Zreen
the great George Lucad
NeverEnoughFoxes
Lucas. A can never type well on mobile. :[
GCRust
I love people give Rey shit for fixing the Falcon "with the Force" when Luke No Scoped a two meter hole going Mach Fuckoff.
kingbudo101
Lets not forget the chosen one at 10 blowing up a space station
GCRust
"I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!"
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
Oh yeah, not to mention the other pilots using their lives as shields to buy him time for that shot.
GCRust
Ah yes. Clearly it's fine because EVERYONE ELSE gave their lives so he could have a crowning moment of awesome. Totally not OP.
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
Great job missing the point. You're trying to call Luke OP as if he'd done this amazing thing alone while forgetting the efforts of (1)
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
others so he could even make the attempt. He was not the first one that pilots made the same sacrifice for. "so he could have a crowning (2)
SMarkt
rey knows whats worth scavenging from a star destroyer. why shall she not be able to repair tech stuff?
GCRust
Now now, to ask questions is not the proper Star Wars fan way. Only mindless rage.
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
Can we remember that the shot itself was about the only thing he did "on his own"? He was part of a larger attack with specific planning,(1)
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
had to be rescued a couple times, had the benefit of intelligence from prior runs, and wouldn't have even made the shot if Obi-wan wasn't(2)
Usernameisalreadyregisteredwasalreadyregistered
coaching him. He's likely got his own Gary Stu moments but Jesus this isn't one of them.
kingbudo101
how is a guy who has never been to space before, Instantly knows how to dog fight and use the force after a half a day of training not a
iamthisguy247
I don’t hate Star Wars, but I often hate other fans. Get sick of hearing how “you don’t really understand” for liking/disliking a movie.
Hoiloidl
When people tell me how great and philosophical Blade Runner 2049 is while I only find it boring, especially compared to the first one.
Iamatinylittlebanana
Good good let the hate flow through you.
Zadwanaa
Typical.. you really dont understand fans. ?
JLB36602
Only true Star Wars fans deal in absolutes...
ThaWhiteRanger
Listen here you little sith
afsdpckapjadfkasef
I hated the fuck out of the new ones but loved the money they throw at it it was nice to look at
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Unpopular opinion: TLJ is the best star wars movie.
Lexgeddon
I do like that it subverts genre tropes, but it doesn't replace them with anything new or interesting. It's a baby/bathwater situation.
physicsisalwaysrelevant
I disagree. The first thing TLJ does is humanize the heros and makes them relatable. Luke shows his first character development since ep4. >
physicsisalwaysrelevant
It freed Rey from being the new Luke, made Ren a character with dimension, and pointed out that a solo character doesn't make sense as>
physicsisalwaysrelevant
A military leader. It returned to world building, focusing on details like gambling planets and blue milk. The complete dismissal of the >
Anonymouse64
Yeah, I got so sick of everyone bellyaching about TLJ that it put me off the whole series.
Kurnis
maybe..just maybe..it was TLJ that put you off the whole series. naaaaaaaaah... "it's the FANS who are wrong!"
Anonymouse64
No, cause I liked TLJ.
RoombaTheAssaultVacuum
I don't understand this comment. Oh well.
Einstein9073
I could not possibly care less about the Red Sox baseball team, but Red Sox fans are purely awful and I loathe their presence
HappyBucket
"You don't really understand." - yeah, maybe I don't at some points. I don't see how that changes things. Some things are fucking weird.
SpecialContainmentProcedures
I think it really just boils down to people wanting different things out of Star wars.
Remmikins
I hate the Gatekeeping not the Fandoms themselves
LupusGrey
Unmute
Sauroctonus
I don't think I will.
LupusGrey
Fine by me. You do you
KevorkianScarf
I’m glad I did. The chuckles were worth it.
Youhavinagiraffe
Lots of fans think they're at war and want every part of the franchise to be for them and them alone. I can't remember the last time...
Youhavinagiraffe
...I saw someone praise something Star Wars related without adding in a pointless mean-spirited dig at some other part of the franchise
PimpinKen
I find it funny when I make a hoke about stormtroopers missing the broadside of a barn and all the fact checkers come crawling out to >
Housemaster
People love to invent complex explanations for simple cinematic decisions.
Housemaster
"Why do Stormtroopers miss!?!?" It creates visual conflict and doesn't stop the story by killing the main characters ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
valanthos
Yeah plot armour is a thing, crack troops in most fiction fail to kill protags regardless of elite training.
Housemaster
Or the ever prevalent "shoulder wound" our heroes suffer (and recover).
xDaisyMae
Wait i thought that was normal? Is there actually a reason ?
xDaisyMae
For the stormtroopers aim.
Sigge1981
Yeah. It would be a pretty short movie if all the main characters were killed
valanthos
It's implied at least on the rescue mission to save princess leia that they were deliberately let go to track them back to the rebel base.
PimpinKen
Correct me. It's a fucking joke that we can all laugh at, give it a fucking rest
gravyandfries
Wait, what’s their reason for the storm troopers sucking at aiming?!?
yoshtan4
Multiple reasons, one of the books had one of the squads that eventually defected miss on purpose because they didn't actually want to kill
LiterallyAWizard
Ironically, the only reason I jump on that joke is because people won't give it a rest, either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
50m31AW
That anti-imperial propaganda has no place in this galaxy, rebel scum
PimpinKen
That's probably the best response I've ever heard. Doesn't change the fact that you're an imperial dog!
fryedman
sfrinlan
There's two camps to most fandoms, the hardcore who dive into, connect, justify the lore. And those who just enjoy a decent enough movie.
sfrinlan
I feel like if you walk out of the theater and had a good time, it was worth it, even if it doesn't hold up under scrutiny
Snowman2388
For me I really enjoyed the first 2 sequel movies but was thrown off from the 3rd because it had almost nothing to do with the other 2.
Badprenup
From my understanding that's because so many people disliked 8 that rather than finishing out that story they just told a different one
Snowman2388
That's why I didn't like 9. To me 7 and 8 go together but then 9 brings back palpatine
CameForNatalieDormer
Honestly, I like the scrutiny. Not every story needs to be a master piece, but standards of story telling help to bring us better stories.
sfrinlan
I hear you, and I feel that it's okay for some stories to be pure pulp. That said, consistency between franchise iterations is desirable.
CameForNatalieDormer
What I don't like is the gatekeeping. By all means be 150 books deep into Star Wars lore, but don't tell someone else they enjoy it wrong.
Imalwaysready
100% agree. I hate fans who tell other fans they are doing it wrong, or who get upset when the thing they love becomes popular. I was >
LupusGrey
Oh man, fandoms are so toxic these days.
BednaR
Depends what you mean. If you hate trash like TLJ ...that's ok. If you hate on Rogue one... that's very much not ok.
LupusGrey
Well now that you mention it, the gatekeeping is a huge part of what I mean.
notkvothethebloodless
Yall remember when rebecca sugar was recieving death threats if she didnt fuse certain characters in steven universe?
LupusGrey
ToonamiT0M
Fandoms are not toxic. Loud asshats within a fandom get attention from the media which they use for click bait.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Always have been
CommentGuru
Star Wars is one of the largest and thus one of the worse.
stankginchfurbuger
Dune fandom is great. All dick jokes, beans and drivel. We accept that our true love is really quite silly but you can't stop true love
LupusGrey
Yeah, so far Dune fans have been pretty chill. I like that.
OminousBanjo
It’s because we’ve existed for decades in obscurity and now are just pumped to be able to have something new
CptRobotNinja
They really are. It's just groups of dude bitching about the thing they allegedly like
AsianLeprechaun
To be fair, Disney has given us reason to bitch about SW.
enybi
Any kind of conglomeration of humans tends to have a few dicks, look at the hate mail and threats to Yoko Ono over the Beatles break-up
LupusGrey
And the bigger the conglomeration the higher the chance of assholes being among them.
jherazob
Law of Large Numbers
ButtholeButts
These days? "Comic Book Shop Guy" has been a trope since before Star Wars even hit theaters.
Xerxes4242
1/2 Disney makes a shitty sequel trilogy with lame characters, no direction. People get angry. Suddenly everyone's toxic.
Xerxes4242
2/2 "just be happy with whatever we give you" isn't what you tell someone who's paying to for your movie or product.
LupusGrey
It was toxic long before the sequels.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
These days? This is not a new thing.
LupusGrey
I used to have fun in some fandoms. Some of them are still fun.
Imalwaysready
osmbln
Always been.
Zixtank
... These days? As opposed to?
LupusGrey
Earlier days. Although those might be rosetinted. Can't tell for sure. Probably.
Mayokopp
I'd say it's a bit of both, but nowadays the toxicity is not only more transparent but also amplified depending on the community
parkerh17
I'm not even a starwars fan and even I can tell that it would be bizarre to be a fan of the og series AND the way it was rebooted.
zenprime
This is why I just like shit. Ain't dying on no hill for some stupid ass shit I just enjoy.
PickleRiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Preach, yo. I like shit because "I" like shit, not because of any group.
LupusGrey
HaniiPuppy
MyKinkIsKinkshaming
I forget about this dumb shit and I'm delighted every time I see it again
HaniiPuppy
It came back to mind for me recently because youtube's suggestions algorithm insists that I absolutely must watch this video all the time:
HaniiPuppy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHQH57y2d7Y
BabyWitchErika
i mean, i hate the ''recent'' star wars, and used to love the star wars. but then disney said you're wrong, and bad. So fuck 'em
BednaR
Rogue one was amazing. TLJ was trash.
CaptainSomebody
Rise was trash, TLJ would have been fine if it weren't the second of a trilogy, Awakens was fine. At least the Disney+ shows are fire.
LordofSadFace
even as a standalone movie with original characters, TLJ was a story telling disaster, it pulled a lot of stuff out of its ass, (1/2)
LordofSadFace
it focused more on destroying the past than creating a future and it seemed to have a degenerative political agenda (2/2)
BednaR
TLJ had so much stupid stuff tho... so many weird and stupid ideas...Leia flying in space, the space chase, LUKE treatment, hyperspace crash
Varimothras
So Jedi could jump really far and run really fast in the prequels on land, but Leia can't magnetize herself to a ship in space?
UltraLincoln
Kirby fandom is still a delight!
fiddlewheelx
Well he is gods favorite creation! *Poyo!*
Bestiarium
But not entirely - strangely, I've had people become pretty angry at me about tiny and insignificant details in the Kirby lore. I strife
Bestiarium
to not be that kind of person. Nothing enjoyable about trying to push people out of your fandom.
Bestiarium
Especially when it's about Kirby - who doesn't like Kirby!
E4r3nd1l
To be fair, how can you be angry at the cute pink BEAST THAT DEVOURS ELDER GODS...
UltraLincoln
Look, as long as you don't interrupt his meals or destroy his desserts he's pretty chill
Elasmobranchii
LupusGrey
Glad to hear it
JollyRogarrgh
Too oversexualized
Bestiarium
Stupid sexy Kirby
Throwawayheyya
The Kirby fandom sucks.
potentiallyunsafe
Damn, things are heating up in the Kirby fandom here.
kamesha
I don't think he's a Kirby fan bro. He's just Kirby trollin
MrRandom314159
I will devour you and consume your hatred.
aaaaaadddvvveennnttuurrreeee
Markamanic
BYYEEEEEEEEE
LordofSadFace