Speak for yourself. "We" don't cancel people over vague allegations. No evidence, no witnesses, no cancel. Its not on him to prove his innocence just because he's a man, sorry if you feel different.
The unseriousness is the best part of the genre. There's so much pretentious bullshit in metal fandom and meanwhile you got anthems about tits, epic musical histories of soccer, Playboy bunny safari hunts with Acme nets and Nerf darts, and the sickest tunes anyone's ever performed about cheese, MILFs and dandruff. Also gargoyle romance.
One of my favorites with them is Mein Herz Brennt, the video which was very much overblown and pompous, and very nearly completely failed as a project. Dark fairy tales. https://youtu.be/WXv31OmnKqQ
My favorite artist is prog metal’s Devin Townsend. One of my favorite songs of his is a 16 minute epic titled The Mighty Masturbator. Two songs later, the secrets of the universe are found by deconstructing a cheeseburger. (But tragedy! “I can’t eat the cheeseburger, I’m a vegimatarian”)
Rush's comedic "I think I'm going Bald," good tune, memorable. Iron Maiden's somewhat serious "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" a blazing, melodramatic, over the top track about, yep, long distance running. There's silly tracks from the most serious of bands.
Not to mention a 17min epic about the Mega-Supreme Treasure of the Eternal Thunderfist, a song about looking for an ancient pirate treasure that ended up being the friends we found along the way. Yes, I'm 100% serious. There is literally a line in the song that says exactly that.
There are no diamonds There's no gold to be found Fooled by the lies of a madman Nothing concealed underground But my life was not wasted And this bond will not fray For the real treasure's the friends we made along the way
Gatekeeping in any genre is bullshit. The more the merrier, I say! And if you want to dress like a mixture of reggae and punk at a show, more power to ya! Let your freak flag fly! 🤘
They almost certainly all refer to Nanowar of Steel. Super fun Italian comedy band made up of incredibly clever (i.e. astrophysicist, etc.) dudes who don't take themselves at all seriously.
As well as manveti's comment, go check out Alestorm. Literal pirate metal band. They have a 17min epic about finding ancient pirate treasure and it being the friends we found along the way.
All of those are real examples. That one's the video to Superheroes by Edguy (who are named after their middle school math teacher, can't go a single interview with getting shit about how goofy it is, and absolutely refuse to change it). /watch?v=2YCnIKgvwJo
TBH most Rammstein songs also have a lot of meaning. Some are more direct others require a bit more thinking. This song for example is about a blind dude who just wants a big breasted woman while he is literally surrounded by them during nearly the whole video. Also there is the song "Deutschland" for example which is just a masterclass.
A lot of the songs are pretty socially pointed, which is great (Deutchland, Amerika, tons of others) and some are philosophical as fuck (Zeit). This is kind of one of the socially pointed ones too but also just, fun. It's one of the only mainstream bands I can think of alongside Muse (generally revolutionary themes) and 21 Pilots (religious ones) that doesn't always boil down to a shitty romance song.
Every time Rammstein is mentioned from now until the end of time, you’ll see dudes try and clout farm off of the time their singer trying to fuck a groupie and then left the room when she said no.
They’ll call him a rapist or a creep or an attempted rapist or accuse him of drugging her or any one of a dozen different things, because hey… some people are just shit.
i remember hearing that and loving how heavy the riff was. after seeing the video, i was like, wtf. i then looked up the lyrics and started laughing. bands who dont take themselves too seriously are awesome
My wife is from Gent, when she makes this gesture it's not just tapping but also like she's throwing something away or something is flying out of her head
Eh, I've always used "finger to the temple and twisting hand 2-3 times" for that, while tapping is more of a "good use of your nogging!" Also in Belgium, btw.
I think Te Quiero Puta is my favorite song of theirs. Best video would probably be Sonne with the bizarre Snow White imagery that makes me laugh. Morgenstern is probably their most wholesome song.
Ish! 2022. Check it out, if you haven't. It's beautiful. ...Mostly. Like all Rammstein stuff there's some crazy in there, too :P But a lot of the melodic, and it's lovely.
In my personal experience of having been lucky enough to find out, large can be fun. Small can be fun. Anywhere in between can be fun. What really makes a difference is the person who owns them, how well you get along and how you make each other feel. Large ones can be great for certain things, and are usually very nice to see, but never think anyone is less attractive just because they don't have them. *that's my 2cents*
An ex has double-g's (another has triple a's, I'm not a big boob dude, just fortunate to have experienced a variety of the gamut) and, well, they feel like boobs, shockingly, I know, but like, after a certain point there's just more, but the feeling is largely the same - so, if you were feeling like you missed out, don't, any boob, is a good boob.
The song and video was partially in response to accusations of Rammstein being Nazis or at least making music for them. So they made a song about big tits and had the video make fun of classic German nationalist setting and having a blind old man (played by Till) stepping on Edelweiss at the end.
For future reference, on Youtube links you can just leave out the si= tracking part (which tells them who generated the link) and just use https://youtu.be/thJgU9jkdU4
Well, thanks to Der Spiegel rushing the publish the "scandal", there won't be a trial since the accusing party refused to come forward. Now a guilty man is going unpunished or an innocent man never gets the chance to clear his reputation. Thanks, Spiegel! Quality journalism. Can't criticize them though, they'll paint you as a "Lügenpresse"-shouting right-wing anti-democrat.
If you mean the original young woman who said she felt drugged, she herself made statements and was clear she was not assaulted. Iirc she got drunk, said no, the no was respected, but she hadn't ever been drunk before and wasn't sure if her drink had been spiked by someone. That was the main sticking point, and the thing that upset her I think--she thought she'd been drugged but she wasn't sure. She was not attacked though.
That being said, if they published something about other accusations I don't know about it. I saw something about general accusations against the... keyboardist?? I think? But no specifics and no charges
Don’t know if you’re aware, but there are actual rape victims out there, and you’re not helping them by spreading accusations that *the accuser admits are bullshit*.
From what ive read, the woman in question admits to not being raped, but possibly drugged. Im not entirely sure. I think till lindeman is for sure a pervert, but im not certain ive seen the evidense that he actually raped anyone.
She didn't feel right after drinking iirc backstage, but also said explicitly that she was not assaulted, that Til approached her, she said no, he left her alone (albeit possibly angry but he respected the no) and that she'd never been drunk so she wasn't sure she was drugged. From what I gather it's something she told someone and it blew up, and she had to repeatedly say she was not attacked.
That being said, there's other accusations floating around. None of them have been prosecuted and the
band members have been pretty clear that they prioritize audience safety, and reworked how their backstage shows functioned to ensure nobody would be alone with the groupies or something like that.
It’s like you heard the phrase “preponderance of circumstantial evidence” on a podcast and couldn’t wait to shoehorn it into conversation.
He wanted to fuck a groupie. She said no. He accepted her answer and left. She never accused him of rape, or even attempted rape.
There are shitty people out there. People throwing out false accusations of rape are significantly shittier than musicians who want to consensually fuck groupies.
There have been multiple accusations of sexual violence directed at the band for years
If you start claiming the 100% confirmed facts are on your side then you'll be on the wrong side because that's one interpretation of that facts from you, who wasn't even there.
And circumstantial vague deniable evidence and events is how sexual predators get away with it for years.
Cucks like you ignoring what's going on because you like the music and don't wanna pay attention to the distinct pattern of it
If everyone’s on board, then who gives a shit? Consenting adults and all that.
It’s crazy seeing people throw the accusation around every time they’re mentioned because folk like @Cornchip2000 wanna clout farm off of people’s trauma and show how enlightened they are rather than speak the truth.
fskn
Obligatory:
Bojovnik84
JudgeMentaI
BautaStein
Nah they are problematic in all other ways
rockmanx853000
As a Mexican my favorite song from them is “Te quiero puta!!!”
l0calh0st
Vamos, vamos mi amor!
rockmanx853000
Me gusta mucho tu sabor!
nintendolunchbox
Meh.
Dannoboyo
I like her.
nintendolunchbox
She's great! I just don't like big cans.
Xenarion
To each their own.
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
...and thats just Maiden
azazyel
A fellow Imgurian recommend Live from Berlin as a primer for them, great album, love it.
Xerxes4242
Fantastic live album, got me started on them.
kurvarVillain
Have you not seen Gwar?
DrankTooMuchMead
Yeah, one of them has udders.
theobstruction
The ultimate seriously unserious band.
ElimTevir
The Oakily Dokalies, enter the chat...
badmojo23
Na they take that Ned Flanders theme too serious /s(maybe?)
PeerNooijen
3 times ....
MrsSlavicHorse
Their shows are something to be survived
powerrangerpl
We don't do Rammstein here anymore, since it came to light that Till is a sexual predator.
Xerxes4242
Speak for yourself. "We" don't cancel people over vague allegations. No evidence, no witnesses, no cancel. Its not on him to prove his innocence just because he's a man, sorry if you feel different.
vericon151
🤘mehr Rammstein bitte
somebackup
The kooks have a song about a big tiddy girl too
WillemHellfire
She looks like the Only Pans I'm ady.
sneakypoo
Fits with the allegations a few years ago.
ElbowDeepInAGoblin
The unseriousness is the best part of the genre. There's so much pretentious bullshit in metal fandom and meanwhile you got anthems about tits, epic musical histories of soccer, Playboy bunny safari hunts with Acme nets and Nerf darts, and the sickest tunes anyone's ever performed about cheese, MILFs and dandruff. Also gargoyle romance.
ExTechOp
One of my favorites with them is Mein Herz Brennt, the video which was very much overblown and pompous, and very nearly completely failed as a project. Dark fairy tales.
https://youtu.be/WXv31OmnKqQ
lljkrevol
My favorite artist is prog metal’s Devin Townsend. One of my favorite songs of his is a 16 minute epic titled The Mighty Masturbator. Two songs later, the secrets of the universe are found by deconstructing a cheeseburger. (But tragedy! “I can’t eat the cheeseburger, I’m a vegimatarian”)
homemadechef
Banana Banana Banana Terracotta Banana Terracotta Terracotta Pie!
Nykidemus
They have some pretty great serious work as well. I appreciate the breadth.
rbudrick
Rush's comedic "I think I'm going Bald," good tune, memorable. Iron Maiden's somewhat serious "The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner" a blazing, melodramatic, over the top track about, yep, long distance running. There's silly tracks from the most serious of bands.
jesuisgur
Wasn't there a song just spelling out a cookie recipe (in german) on their first album ?
badcode4o4
that was tool; "Die Eier von Satan"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%86nima
jesuisgur
Oh that's it, thanks, that's why I couldn't find it !
DemSumBigAssRidges
"I'MADOGANDILIKESOCKS!!"
Conejito
"sounds grotesque. I'm in." - Jonathan Frakes
hsalonen3000
I'm just gonna leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJCxcdWqdto
kevbot5000
ElbowDeepInAGoblin
[gargoyle_fucker_anthem]/watch?v=pJCxcdWqdto
Zalm
Not to mention a 17min epic about the Mega-Supreme Treasure of the Eternal Thunderfist, a song about looking for an ancient pirate treasure that ended up being the friends we found along the way. Yes, I'm 100% serious. There is literally a line in the song that says exactly that.
Zalm
There are no diamonds
There's no gold to be found
Fooled by the lies of a madman
Nothing concealed underground
But my life was not wasted
And this bond will not fray
For the real treasure's the friends we made along the way
TyPfhhv
Gatekeeping in any genre is bullshit. The more the merrier, I say! And if you want to dress like a mixture of reggae and punk at a show, more power to ya! Let your freak flag fly! 🤘
bolobass
Bad Brains or Skindred? Either or both, really.
nezo
Pain is great for this too
HorriblyOffensive
I request to know more about these other topics because they sound hilarious ty
manveti
They almost certainly all refer to Nanowar of Steel. Super fun Italian comedy band made up of incredibly clever (i.e. astrophysicist, etc.) dudes who don't take themselves at all seriously.
UnknownTongue
The playboy bunny hunting is actually Edguy - Superheroes if I'm not mistaken.
Zalm
As well as manveti's comment, go check out Alestorm. Literal pirate metal band. They have a 17min epic about finding ancient pirate treasure and it being the friends we found along the way.
FussyZeus
Playboy bunny safari hunts? Was that a joke example to illustrate the absurdity or a real one…? If the latter I must know more
ElbowDeepInAGoblin
All of those are real examples. That one's the video to Superheroes by Edguy (who are named after their middle school math teacher, can't go a single interview with getting shit about how goofy it is, and absolutely refuse to change it). /watch?v=2YCnIKgvwJo
UnknownTongue
Edgy - Superheroes. Check out Lavatory Love Machine as well. Great band.
spookyu
System of a Down gives you whiplash in this. One song is genuine political and societal commentary, the next is incoherent nonsense lol, I love it.
NoAsBigAsMediumJockButBiggerThanWeeJockJock
TBH most Rammstein songs also have a lot of meaning. Some are more direct others require a bit more thinking. This song for example is about a blind dude who just wants a big breasted woman while he is literally surrounded by them during nearly the whole video. Also there is the song "Deutschland" for example which is just a masterclass.
Zalm
I like Adeiu myself
Athol
Banana, banana, banana, terracotta
Banana terracotta, terracotta pie
Banana, banana, banana, terracotta
Banana terracotta, terracotta pie
Beefkins
Electric Callboy is the perfect blend of unserious lyrical content, funny music videos, and metal that slaps.
adiving
Electric Callboy has some very nice songs. But if I had to pick one that stood above the others I'm gonna go for Nanowar of Steel.
hayeszc84
Love Electric Callboy. "We Butter The Bread With Butter" , "Baby Beard" , and "Samurai Pizza Cat are also great"!
RigidGristle
I can get behind this
ElbowDeepInSaintCelestine
As easy as the lyrics are, the music video is fantastisch
njkckbxr
This a selfie with words
ZIMISME
Big tits are serious business though.
Feralkyn
A lot of the songs are pretty socially pointed, which is great (Deutchland, Amerika, tons of others) and some are philosophical as fuck (Zeit). This is kind of one of the socially pointed ones too but also just, fun. It's one of the only mainstream bands I can think of alongside Muse (generally revolutionary themes) and 21 Pilots (religious ones) that doesn't always boil down to a shitty romance song.
wadatahmydamie
Every time Rammstein is mentioned from now until the end of time, you’ll see dudes try and clout farm off of the time their singer trying to fuck a groupie and then left the room when she said no.
They’ll call him a rapist or a creep or an attempted rapist or accuse him of drugging her or any one of a dozen different things, because hey… some people are just shit.
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Xerxes4242
Gonna need some real evidence for that claim.
Chilichunks
I mean, Till Lindemann was with Leila Lowfire for awhile so this at least partially tracks.
TerrorAustralisIncognita
He also has a solo song "I hate my wife... and her boyfriend too". Just for context... lol "Praise Abort
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
goodness me O_O"
Grinch01
You know that they got a lot shit beacuse they arent really nice to the Girls they invite backstage ?
ImNotAnOrange
that music video is a trip
ashaliel
i remember hearing that and loving how heavy the riff was. after seeing the video, i was like, wtf. i then looked up the lyrics and started laughing. bands who dont take themselves too seriously are awesome
MechKelly
I don't understand German but Til does some songs in English and those are hilarious.
grumpabeme
I thought tapping one’s head like that was actually an insult in Germany.
grumpabeme
Yup, jemandem den Vogel zeigen, basically the same as giving someone the bird in the US.
walpurrga
it means 'you are crazy'
grumpabeme
Yup, so not what she is intending as part of the song.
Izegrim
Nope, tapping on the side of the head is about being smart (klug sein). Tapping the front of the head is about being dumb (verrückt).
Che07
Right answer.
cosonfused
interesting. in Belgium tapping the side it is "are you crazy/dumb"
thepicklebucket
My wife is from Gent, when she makes this gesture it's not just tapping but also like she's throwing something away or something is flying out of her head
INeedMoreGifMeMoreJustOneMore
Eh, I've always used "finger to the temple and twisting hand 2-3 times" for that, while tapping is more of a "good use of your nogging!" Also in Belgium, btw.
Izegrim
Is that the French influence, because the Dutch do it the same as the Germans ...
cosonfused
no idea.
bolobass
https://media4.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1bHZ3aGoyaDZ6Z3llZXo3bDY2YTB1NXZ5ZmlldGFzNTBvZ2tpcG52eSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/xpjTBqaoEI7lPEwavl/200w.webp
jethroismaxbaer5772
I think Te Quiero Puta is my favorite song of theirs. Best video would probably be Sonne with the bizarre Snow White imagery that makes me laugh. Morgenstern is probably their most wholesome song.
Feralkyn
I love so much of their new stuff. Their melodic is always my fave, but Zeit and Adieu hit it out of the park in both cases.
jethroismaxbaer5772
Oh there's new stuff?
Feralkyn
Ish! 2022. Check it out, if you haven't. It's beautiful. ...Mostly. Like all Rammstein stuff there's some crazy in there, too :P But a lot of the melodic, and it's lovely.
GenesisAmadeus
I wonder what those would feel like.
iananimated
Like bags of sand.
Grumpy72
In my personal experience of having been lucky enough to find out, large can be fun. Small can be fun. Anywhere in between can be fun. What really makes a difference is the person who owns them, how well you get along and how you make each other feel. Large ones can be great for certain things, and are usually very nice to see, but never think anyone is less attractive just because they don't have them. *that's my 2cents*
Sh1tMovieGroup
An ex has double-g's (another has triple a's, I'm not a big boob dude, just fortunate to have experienced a variety of the gamut) and, well, they feel like boobs, shockingly, I know, but like, after a certain point there's just more, but the feeling is largely the same - so, if you were feeling like you missed out, don't, any boob, is a good boob.
OptimisticMisanthrope
They're all good boobs, Bront!
Superchief86
You could have just shared the music video to show how unserious they are.
https://youtu.be/thJgU9jkdU4?si=bd-cCci5-eUqA4Ey
SneakyCarrot
The song and video was partially in response to accusations of Rammstein being Nazis or at least making music for them. So they made a song about big tits and had the video make fun of classic German nationalist setting and having a blind old man (played by Till) stepping on Edelweiss at the end.
ExTechOp
For future reference, on Youtube links you can just leave out the si= tracking part (which tells them who generated the link) and just use https://youtu.be/thJgU9jkdU4
GIMike1972
Thank you ExTech - I was just thinking there isn't enough Rammstein in my daily life!! My day will be better now!!
Superchief86
No shit. I had no idea. Thank you. 👍
Cornchip2000
Less funny when the lead singer is, if you believe the evidence, a rapist. I recommend the podcast, Rammstein- Row Zero. It is in German.
CandidGamera
Well, thanks to Der Spiegel rushing the publish the "scandal", there won't be a trial since the accusing party refused to come forward. Now a guilty man is going unpunished or an innocent man never gets the chance to clear his reputation. Thanks, Spiegel! Quality journalism. Can't criticize them though, they'll paint you as a "Lügenpresse"-shouting right-wing anti-democrat.
Feralkyn
If you mean the original young woman who said she felt drugged, she herself made statements and was clear she was not assaulted. Iirc she got drunk, said no, the no was respected, but she hadn't ever been drunk before and wasn't sure if her drink had been spiked by someone. That was the main sticking point, and the thing that upset her I think--she thought she'd been drugged but she wasn't sure. She was not attacked though.
Feralkyn
That being said, if they published something about other accusations I don't know about it. I saw something about general accusations against the... keyboardist?? I think? But no specifics and no charges
wadatahmydamie
If you believe the evidence, he’s not a rapist, and was never accused of rape.
He was accused of wanting to fuck a groupie, and accepting her “no.”
Do you have any idea how shitty it is when y’all trivialize rape like this?
RacecarIsRacecarBackwards
At least this song pretty much sums up how Till Lindemann views women in general.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
There's been multiple accusations over the years directed at the band as a whole
A very clear pattern of implications involving sexual violence is not a pattern people should ignore.
wadatahmydamie
You’re a weird little liar.
Cornchip2000
😁
wadatahmydamie
Don’t know if you’re aware, but there are actual rape victims out there, and you’re not helping them by spreading accusations that *the accuser admits are bullshit*.
Bear1bear
From what ive read, the woman in question admits to not being raped, but possibly drugged. Im not entirely sure. I think till lindeman is for sure a pervert, but im not certain ive seen the evidense that he actually raped anyone.
Feralkyn
She didn't feel right after drinking iirc backstage, but also said explicitly that she was not assaulted, that Til approached her, she said no, he left her alone (albeit possibly angry but he respected the no) and that she'd never been drunk so she wasn't sure she was drugged. From what I gather it's something she told someone and it blew up, and she had to repeatedly say she was not attacked.
That being said, there's other accusations floating around. None of them have been prosecuted and the
Feralkyn
(Till, keyboard, he's not an abbreviation damn)
Feralkyn
band members have been pretty clear that they prioritize audience safety, and reworked how their backstage shows functioned to ensure nobody would be alone with the groupies or something like that.
Bear1bear
But there does seem to be a preponderance of circumstantial evidense to suggest that you probably shouldnt go back stage at a till lindemann show.
wadatahmydamie
It’s like you heard the phrase “preponderance of circumstantial evidence” on a podcast and couldn’t wait to shoehorn it into conversation.
He wanted to fuck a groupie. She said no. He accepted her answer and left. She never accused him of rape, or even attempted rape.
There are shitty people out there. People throwing out false accusations of rape are significantly shittier than musicians who want to consensually fuck groupies.
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bolobass
Not defending a pervert here, but you need to stick to facts, not stories.
SquiddelyDooDoodlyDoo
There have been multiple accusations of sexual violence directed at the band for years
If you start claiming the 100% confirmed facts are on your side then you'll be on the wrong side because that's one interpretation of that facts from you, who wasn't even there.
And circumstantial vague deniable evidence and events is how sexual predators get away with it for years.
Cucks like you ignoring what's going on because you like the music and don't wanna pay attention to the distinct pattern of it
torokunai
Similar setup for Van Halen were they'd have actual bedrooms under the stage for privacy with groupies during the show, e.g. during an Eddie solo.
Hard to turn that life down I guess
wadatahmydamie
If everyone’s on board, then who gives a shit? Consenting adults and all that.
It’s crazy seeing people throw the accusation around every time they’re mentioned because folk like @Cornchip2000 wanna clout farm off of people’s trauma and show how enlightened they are rather than speak the truth.
Bear1bear
Wow thats genuinely nasty as fuck
Bear1bear
Hey, there's no accounting for taste.
torokunai
literally, LOL