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Pasquinelthe2nd
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rhalm
Ed...ward?
nation543
lonosham
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StarSumiaki
What makes it even worse is there's barely even any light either. This failure to softly expose children to bad times to help them grow doesn't even seem to be because they're too preoccupied protecting children with good times.
Rather, too many children seem pawned off to empty dopamine.
Too many parents ply their kids with endless silencing rot. And so, those kids not only grow up lacking the tools to handle bad times... They even lack the tools to properly navigate the good ones.
lgkinasen
Today's parents don't raise people, they raise pawns.
(Something every generation says, really.)
StarSumiaki
Not pawns. Slaves. And yes, every generation has had its gripes about the generations after --their motives, their passions, their ethos. But the metastasizing horror of today is that we've gone from comparing apples to oranges to having an empty basket altogether.
SortaSordid
gnomedeplume
ok but that's not a kids movie, thats just playing dirty
RyvaTheRenamon
Anythings a kids movie if you don't give a shit
Incognitomodeactivated
drousnavat
Still in the dead of night, I hear it. "ARTAX! YOURE SINKING!"
brazzy42
HELLO SIS IS GERMAN COAST GUARD. WHAT ARE YOU SINKING ABOUT?
PresldentClef
SiebzehnSilben
On one hand I absolutely agree ... on the other The Last Unicorn destroyed me. Just seeing that picture makes me tear up.
Feelings man ... *sigh*
tamm516
The Neverending Story. Bridge to Terabithia.
zFUBARz
I dare people to watch Bluey The Sign and say kids content doesn't still deal with traumatic subject matter
MxMenagerie
"How dare you come to me now! When I am...this"
DYLANLEE79
Where were you!
Nukls
Old Yeller https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050798/
Nukls
DarkParn
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SpicyGoober
That scene was ruined for me because seeing it as a teen without any context or watching the movie that line is hilarious.
aerodynamit3
Ferngully was good with Hexxus
TankTrain
Are you positive?
ShadeMeadowsArt
lgkinasen
BATTY RAP
psychicgnu
Nurse, I need a checkup from the neck up I'm BATTY
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
Trying to awake the pansexual kids by making them wanna get railed by the sexy smoke monster?
astralomega
it doesn't necessarily awaken them but it does plant a seed that they will look back on in their young adult years and go "hey now wait a second". source- i am a pansexual adult
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
Awakened me.
ChazzK
Oh, Hexxus inspired a lot of *feelings*, but fear often wasn't one of them
SchuKadaj
I'm not entirely sure I like the questions you caused my brain to form.
ChazzK
Toxic. Love.
Sung by TIM GOD DAMN CURRY.
That is all.
Elonth
This person goons to slime people.
ChazzK
Not always. But when I do they're usually singing a bawdy tune in Tim Curry's voice.
B4r4B4d4B45tu
It was all Tim Curry. He wasn't really seen as a sex symbol, but dang if he didn't awaken things in people!
rhalm
Look, there is absolutely no way that anything Tim Curry does that doesn't elicit certain feelings.
.........Spaaaeeese!
tachyx
Roqinn
Watership Downs, Charlotte's Web, The Neverending Story. Just to name a few.
emertonom
I mean, I'm not completely up to date on the very newest kids stuff, but Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Star vs. the Forces of Evil, and The Owl House are all pretty great about this. I don't think there's that much of a shortage of stories that touch on dark stuff.
Jezzz
Kid's aren't stupid, just inexperienced.
Chattafaukup
Society has been watered down to be better controlled. All part of capitalism as intended. Its a broken system.
PresldentClef
I like that the last bladerunner movie encapsulated a lot of that; such as one of the best symphonies of humankind (Sergei Prokofiev's 'Peter and the Wolf') being watered down to a power-on diddy for a holographic woman sold by a blind megatrillionaire living in a building full of WOOD that no one can afford.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Children 1,000% need to experience bad things with a safety net to teach them that they can recover from disaster. They need to experience loss, and hurt, and fear, and all the other things we spend our adult lives avoiding. They need to see those things to recognize what they are and how they work, feel the sting, but also learn how to stand back up and recover from them in a context where people are able to help them recover. This will make them resilient and confident as an adult.
TyrannusEquus
It's very important! I know it was unintentional, but watching things like Robocop as a child helped me realize that a person can hang onto the things that make them human, despite what happens to them. Also that you should have something sharp in case you need to stab someone.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Based on the comprehensive body of Verhoeven's work, I am skeptical those were intentional morals... but they are nonetheless valid (and very good) lessons that I can see organically arising from the story.
But also, Robocop should NOT be watched by anyone young enough to learn those lessons. Oh, what a time the 80's were...
TyrannusEquus
It's mentioned during the Robocop 2 program, when all other models just kill themselves, or those that made them and them themselves. His strong moral and religious convictions are theorized to be what keeps him going. And you are entirely correct, that series is not for kids. I had parents who were okay with grasp of fiction vs reality and my love of special effects. Mention special effects to an adult suddenly you can watch an American Werewolf in London. Just have to do your homework first.
IhopeyougetstageIIIcoloncancer
Huh. I've seen the original multiple times, but never the sequels. Maybe I'll check those out.
TyrannusEquus
The second one I like. It's more special effect driven and more action oriented. But the other robotic antagonist is cool. Much more stop motion in that one. The third is not as great. But is very open with corporate take over of civil service and how it's used to oust the residents of Detroit so there can be a New Detroit.
epicfail48
Traumatize more kids, got it. Ill do my part!
hsalonen3000
I dunno, if they had just eaten Babe at the end of the film, wouldn't it have made the film better by this logic?
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
I remember 2 things from "the last unicorn" on vhs at my grandma's house. 1: The unicorn runs down a path with giant thorn bushes all around. 2: Me crying. I would not erase those memories.
evilspock
Iron Giant. Hell the ending still messes me up.
aoshistark
Most important lesson Iron Giant taught me: Never trust the Government.
DJFuzz
thekeyofe
I GO. YOU STAY. NO FOLLOWING.
Starlatan
S U P E R M A N
But he was shown putting himself back together, at least! :)
necroticon
The best Superman movie they've made so far.
aoshistark
My grandmother accidentally let me (10) and my sister (7) watch Watership Down on a rainy day down her beach house. She assumed it was a "kids movie" since it was animated rabbits. We had nightmares for weeks, and I learned very clearly how vicious the natural world could be.
sfrinlan
It's certainly one of the things I had been struggling with when my kids were younger - going through life with everything having already been made safe only works as far as they can live in a world like that their whole lives. Experiencing things that are difficult and dealing with adversity makes people stronger. Obviously, you can also acquire lifelong trauma and bad coping mechanisms, so it's not as simple as "Here, watch The Human Centipede, I'll check on you when it's over"
TheBraveCompanions
I think modern kids movies do this well too. Pretty much every good Pixar and Disney deal with death, loss, and complex emotions. Coco introduces the concept of death and then dying again when no one remembers you, I mean that’s rough!
keyblader1985
I was going to say. Big Hero 6 dealt with loss and the stages of grief, Turning Red dealt with parental pressure; Disney/Pixar are very good at these things today.
gnomedeplume
BH6 was 12 years ago though
zFUBARz
Yeah, people who think this doesn't still happen haven't seen modern kids stuff. Sure there's lots of trash. But as you mentioned many big budget stuff actually hits the mark. Hell Inside Out deals with depression and understanding emotions. Even Bluey deals with some incredibly heavy subjects for a show that's only a few minutes an episode.
TheBraveCompanions
I cry every time I see the dad in Blue tear down the house “for sale” sign. Just such a beautiful scene. Favorite episode? Pass the Parcel
zFUBARz
I just like anything with Pat, which ironically includes pass the parcel. The real mvp of the show.
ShadeMeadowsArt
And adults deserve more hopeful stories too!
B4r4B4d4B45tu
Parents don't want to show these things simply because it raises questions and they don't want to parent. They just let screens do the work.
Poppypoppoppop
"Boy, you are going to learn all the emotions today" *pops up Grave of the Fireflies on screen*
GravyEducation
My mom didn't let us watch The Fellowship of the Ring when it first came out in theaters because "the orcs were scary and you're not 13 yet." Ma I've already read all the books. People die. Three months ago in September I saw people on fire leap from skyscrapers to their deaths on the news. Wtf is this can't watch scary orcs shit
drw16
youre exactly as decrepit as me!
Elonth
Not a proud thing for me...as IT took a lot of growth and pain to get out of my edgy teenage pyscho phase....I dunno if it was just my broken way to deal with the childhood trauma or what...but I've had to go to great lengths to make myself more empathetic. Still doesn't fix the crippiling self loathing though. Pretty sure I'm just hardwired/stuck with that one at this point despite weekly therapy for 20+ years.
TyrannusEquus
My parents were worried that Jurassic Park would scare me away from my love of dinosaurs. But Robocop was fine. Went on to do both careers.
ExTechOp
The original 1987 Robocop (rated R) was hardly movie for kids? Then again, US audiences seem to often confuse Verhoeven's very bitter political satire with fun adventures.
TyrannusEquus
Oh it most certainly was not for kids. But I would eventually pick up on the satire, dark humor and religious references in the first movie. It's one of those movies they made a lot of toys for, despite the rating and subject matter. Like Aliens and A Nightmare on Elm street. That last one is the most interesting to me. Robert England talked about how they made plush toys for kids, featuring a pedophile.
MrE158
Robocop got its own cartoon series. Might have been rated R but they sure as hell were selling that robot to the kids. Kids love robots.
TyrannusEquus
Hell yeah they do. Now those kids are adults and will buy fancy ED209 model kits.
Mechame
My 6th grade christian school teacher wouldn't let me read LOTR in between classes, because (and i quote) "Dungeons and dragons is satanic, and was based on Lord of the Rings"... So at least your mom's reason made some kinda goddamn sense.
Sticklebrickk
And nothing good every happened again
Thegalwiththetie
In 1999 (I was 9), when I found my dad's first authorized North American printing of the Lord of the Rings, I asked my mom if I could read it. My mom, a fierce conservative Christian, said I couldn't because "those books have magic in them" (likely confusing it with Harry Potter - which was just coming out). I took the set to my brother, asked him, and started reading them by the end of the day. We saw the LotR movies in a few years *as a family*.
Mechame
Haha. My christian parents made me throw away Pokemon cards, and forget about Harry Potter... but LOTR was fine... and CS Lewis's Chronicles of Narnia was encouraged. I guess only the bad guys used magic though.. huh
drw16
one of THE most christian works of fiction, mom, GAH.
OsbornThorsguard
Im not sure how LotR is christian, please explain? The mythos is litterally polytheistic, and there's no original sin.
Mechame
Well (some) Christians appropriated it. It's a story about having something that tempts you constantly, and you can be slowly taken over by evil if you give into it... Purity culture youth pastors had a field day with that....
Tolkien almost certainly didn't have that in mind, but Christians aren't super careful when it comes to interpreting... just about anything.,..
OsbornThorsguard
Yea from my reading the dominant influence was mythologies, greek and norse, not any currently practised religion. As i also said in another comment, the struggle against evil is such a basic storytelling device that almost any story could be interpreted as christian then. So i dont buy it. But i will buy that Narnia is a very christian story, specifically because Aslan sacrifices himself for the sins of the humans, and is then ressurected.
Thegalwiththetie
In the beginning was Eru (stand in for God w/capital G). Then Melkor got up to no good - Satan. Morgoth's (as he came to be known) right hand man Sauron became the big bad of LotR - Antichrist. The Valar are very reminiscent of the angels from the OT, especially with Morgoth, being the most powerful, prideful, and wishing to overthrow Eru, much like Lucifer in the original Christian telling of the story. This is the Sparknotes version from the last time I read the Silmarillion.
Thegalwiththetie
Note: I don't particularly subscribe to this reading - I believe Tolkien was far more inspired by the various mythologies of the world. I just used it to sneak past my mother as a censor (above) when she asked why I was reading it when she caught me. I was not the stealthiest 9 year old.
ImYourWifesBoyfriend
Just make kids watch Land before time. That’ll properly fuck them up for what lifes got in store.
KuroNeko00
Any of the Four Great Don Bluth Movies will do the job.
AyatollahBahloni
Artax has entered the chat.
TheWombatStrikesAgain
Excuse me, I saw that movie as a kid, and I turned out fine. *keeps on not being fine*
tylerlarson
I talked about it with Don Bluth back when we were neighbors, and I can confirm that making kids feel scary emotions in a safe place was very much the whole point.
gnomedeplume
Just the first one though, don't look into how many dtv sequels have been churned out
TheAshnod
Watershop down
PlacentaEaters
gripplegrapplegrippinggrapples
It's a terrible day... for rain.
gnomedeplume
Or Transformers: The Movie. You will believe a robot can die, and in excruciating pain.
seniorcitizenfightclub
This one really fucked me up
NairouTryyshokk
Secret of nihm..
Sliprunner
watched that so many times as a child the vhs tape wore out, somehow that's fond memories.
Gnakenheimer
Fox and the hound...
servingmytimeinusersub
That was Don bluth's approach (secret of nimh up there). It's how he got Disney all shook up when he launched his own company.
meigea11
Grave of the Fireflies... but seriously, don't let kids watch that. YOU don't watch that. That film should only be shown to test if someone is human, or to induce medically necessary crying, or medically necessary emotional trauma
camn333
FancyFeastAdvocate
Wait I don't actually remember this from TLBT. Or was it a later one?
VegetarianWendigo
I believe that that lizard is from The Rescuer's Down under (the second one that I only half remember) not the land before time.
PutItInNeutral
Then tell them about Ducky's voice actor.
Elonth
yep...yep...yep...
GravyEducation
As a Simpsons watcher, that Phil Hartman thing too. First they got Bleeding Gums then they got Lionel Hutz
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Things like this are why I don't think anything is "God's Plan." If it is fuck that god.
ExecutiveProducerWolfDyck
That's too much.
InfocalypseRising
jesus CHRIST I wish I hadn't googled that
PutItInNeutral
Childhood ruined. https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1YmNjb3NrZXl3dTFsd2Q0Yzc0b3g3bnc4N3NrNGhsd3RldmNuOXIxMiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/Q5RiiXiUWWVjvE3rER/200w.webp
apairofpetducks
Can you give a soft TL;DR?
Bobdole010
Killed by alcoholic father because he was upset of her growing fame. Her last roll was in all dogs go to heaven. The scene where Charlie (Burt Reynolds) is giving his fairwell was taken after her death (allegedly)
Feralkyn
I think I remember reading an actual interview about that, and yeah it was posthumous, and he kept breaking down
apairofpetducks
Damn. That's very sad.
Thanks for the summary.
gnomedeplume
See I knew about that but not that she was in the sad dinosaur movie too
Bobdole010
Brave Little toaster...
TyrannusEquus
It was my one movie to survive hurricane Andrew. My sister still curses me to this day for watching it quite often.
drw16
that was my movie. age 4 until 8 i would once a week watch an ac unit stress himself out to death.
DyspronsiumAddict
And the song "worthless" about the retirement home of people with proud accomplishments that they wanted to be remembered, now left to die alone and forgotten...
Seiously, watch it now and imagine an assisted care facility.
TyrannusEquus
It's a surprisingly mature thing to add to a children's movie. Usually were told about what we do living on beyond us. But that really is not always the case.
drw16
i mean, the movie made me literally fix appliances before. i thought about the emotionless cruelty of the electromagnet and the crusher machine. and then i fixed the tab on the toaster. i disassembled a coffee grinder and cleaned its components so it could fight a bit longer. same for a 20 dollar box fan ive had for over a decade.
TyrannusEquus
It's probably why I like to fix my things over getting new ones. I did not realize the link until you said it.