Apr 23, 2017 11:04 PM
watchmetoast
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Immigration is good thing
RhorGath
I love legal immigration. We have cool shit and want to know about your cool shit. It's the "illegal" bit that I don't like.
IconoclasticPurpleCat
in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my lifetime.” - Albert Einstein 2/2
MidnightLady
They have the same nose.
ObliqueRay
Pretty sure he regarded that as the best decision he ever made.
kowshikpal
Albert Einstein Knowledge T-Shirt : http://imgur.com/utufBdW
MegaDeuce
"Can you demonstrate you have skills that no American citizen currently possesses?".... "Uh yeah bro that shouldn't be a problem"
SluggoMcPuggo
he's been waiting for that high five ever since.
TehRap
Legal immigration is a good thing* FTFY
erbiumyttriumytterbium
Daughter?! Stepdaughter, maybe. He had two sons who made it into adulthood.
Stepdaughter Margo
ThatWouldBeGreatMKay
Yes, Immigration IS a good thing...WHEN DONE LEGALLY.
AbortedFetusNecrophiliac69
Nazis would have had nukes ... good that he didnt go back
Mavgurian
He was not the only scientist between 1935-45
BayazTheBenevolent
No but the majority of know-how behind the Manhattan Project came from Germany. The same is true for NASA.
Imnotu
Immigration is a great thing. See in this picture, these are people becoming citizens. Spread the word.
RVME
He is one of the most mystical of scientists too. Read all his quotes, not just the ones that support mathematics. Rich Jews also stayed.
papadragon0
What if the next Einstein is somewhere in Syria waiting to earn his refugee status?
Zyhmdaryhm
What if the next Einstein is somewhere in muslim bombing, or in the way of the truck of peace?
ChinaMike808
At least she doesn't have his mustache.
BubbleBaath
LEGAL immigration is a good thing. In case it hasn't been said enough...
Lylos
Nah
ProfanePag
Albert Einstein had only one daughter who was born in 1902 and died in 1903.
The whole post is bull. "Rather" a US-citizen ... his family was jewish, wonder why he would not want to go back ...
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
Margot Einstein, stepdaughter.
Correct! Also pictured below.
schrodingersasymmetric12gauge
Sorta like H1B....
blainetog
But just think of all the jobs he must've taken. Like, at least 4 jobs.
Bahmedino
Oh this comment section is going to be good.
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Wellshiet
Can you blame them?
Gwurver
Grab the popcorn boys
LadiesManTwo17
why?
nanobot101
http://imgur.com/eXWVZHe
pinfox
LarfleezePlz
v
Peregrine2976
Something something addition to my collection.
DieDeutschenKommen
hehe
TripUpStairs
National Geo channel has a show about Einstein's life starting Tuesday (US).
Thanks for sharing!
DungeonMaster69
Genius? Starting in Finland too if it's the same show
Cattrina
torilla tavataan XD
Yep that's the name of it. Good actors in the line up too.
bobbylan1955
Immigration is supposed to be a beautiful thing. A life goal an honor a achievement. Maybe we can get that back ... We all deserve it.
Feel free to fullfill your life goal, be honored and reach your achievements by emigrating to someplace elsewhere.
hitthatbomb
*Educated, value-sharing, society contributing, assimilating immigration is a good thing.
ratfaceddog
Assimilating to what?
What do you see as definitive "western culture?" Do you conform to it 100%?
You're conflating legal matters with cultural ones, though. "Assimilating" to laws is a given. You've still not said what "elements" 1/2
I wonder, would you kick out US born citizens that don't fit the above mentioned criteria?
How big of a percentage of a population does it take to define what values are desirable? What happens to those that disagree?
terryr
(Albert's children) Lieserl Einstein (1902–1903), Hans Albert Einstein (1904–1973), Eduard Einstein (1910–1965) She looks old for 1 year.
buell3r
What?
edehae
His biological daughter died at 1 year old. This is his step-daughter, Margot.
Youropinionisirrelevant
Right! Legal immigration! There's the difference!
GreaterDog
So keeping them out would've been fine if FDR/Truman had signed a travel ban?
Is that what we're talking about is a travel ban? NO! Legally immigrated! There wasn't a threat of terrorism like there is now!!!
ScientistFromSouth
How about the possibility of German spies getting positions in military labs? A lot of German scientists worked on the atom bomb.
The US was generally reluctant to accept any Jewish refugees, especially with the knowledge of the death camps not coming to light until
after the war. Many got in, but thousands were turned away. The Japanese, on the other hand, got the painful pleasure of Uncle Sam's shaft
They came as refugees, not job-seekers. You're aware of Trump's travel ban, right? So yes, that is what we're talking about. Plus, you can't
No we're talking about lethal immigration
tell me people weren't wary of the threat of immigrants when they mass-jailed Japanese-Americans. Legality can be nullified by a piece of
But in today's world how can you tell the enemy of the state from the "refugees"??!! You can't. The travel ban is to protect the public!!!
paper, but the morality doesn't change. But your use of exclamation points tells me we're not gonna have a proper conversation here.
MrDaMann
Legal immigration is good all for it. Illegal immigration not so good
UltimateBooty
Illegal immigration is often hard to define and sometime impossible to avoid for some people
ice has been known to literally wait outside courts waiting for people trying to get visas approved
The old legal / illegal argument never fails to anger me. As if legality somehow makes something automatically morally right.
LizardEnterprises
So if Anne Frank had jumped off a boat and swam ashore illegally rather than getting gassed to death, that would be bad?
CrunkleRas
No it would not. That's not what he's implying either. Dont take it out of context.
1/2 Dude made a blanket statement. He didn't say "Illegal immigration is USUALLY not so good" he said " Illegal immigration not so good"
3/3 a shitty job making his argument by not being specific about what he means. Either of those merits being challenged.
He is implying that illigal imigrants are quantuum physicists.
2/3 He's either implying that there's no situation in which illegal immigration is justified - a morally abhorrent stance - or he's doing
septillion
Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. Don't assume that breaking the law is always bad, or following it good.
Nothing you do is illegal if you control the government...
which is why legality isn't a good way to decide if something is moral or not.
DrParasek
never forget that there were countries which only took the high educated or rich people and the rest died. ...
dighthorse
never forget, because someday we should go back to that way
AninOnin
We're still doing that.
berserk
British politicians refused entry to a shipload of 300 Jews.
DemonsPain88
And Venezuela, America and Canada all refused 900 jews from a boat. It was sent back.
True
You mean the United States?
MsHissyPants
...'were'?
ExTechOp
Even worse, universities like Harvard and Columbia had a Jewish quota — a lot of the highly educated European escapees were of course Jews.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_quota => ht">quota">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_quota => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerus_clausus#United_States
wyosurfer
my grandfather, an American-born Jew, was denied entry into Columbia for that very reason.
adr1an
And now they have Asian quotas. If you want your students to be representative of the entire population, you'll have to use quotas. Pick.
lokitoki81
Sweden is doing its best atm to reverse those stats... We got the best of the best
nahemah
That's how the world works, get over it.
Bortus
Exactly, what I dont understand is why people keep getting surprised that people are shitty.
It's easy to point fingers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HowDoIChangeMyUsername
It shouldn't tho.
No, but are you going to change it?
I'll spend my life trying, as should we all.
StarSpangeledAbroad
*cough* United States *cough*
Hetuni
Fascism is seeming to become popular... Again
anubisfike
Increasing poverty tends to do that.
rocketman89
Lol, so those 4.5 *MILLION* Irish immigrants came because they were Rhodes Scholars and not victims of the famine?
ChuckNorrisAteMySock
Doing the right thing once does not absolve one of their responsibility to keep doing it.
I agree 100%; I just don't agree with the patently false accusation that American has been unfair to immigrants in the past.
thegreatalan
It has, frequently in fact, however one such as yourself will probably scoff at any notion beyond your own parroting mouth.
geauxjeaux
No country takes in more immigrants. Just try to become a citizen of Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc.
riddlemehiddleston
Yeah but Irish immigrants were treated like shit, they were considered cheap work force and worth less than black slaves
pdxenburg
Weren't most of the atrocities against Jews only found out after the war? That's gotta take some of the heat off
StarkRG
It was known they were being murdered by the tens of thousands, that they underestimated by two orders of magnitude lets them off the hook?
SatansLover
Sure.. but there was also loads of antisemitism at the time. Even in the US. People really hated Jews.
AlecCorvander
Hitler called Jewish people a disease and said in no uncertain terms that his desire was to eradicate Jews. (1/)
No heat gets taken off. Fuck those racist shit heads then and fuck them now. The only consolation is some of the world learned that (2/)
lesson. That's why I hate how people are so whiney about political correctness: language matters, what people say matters. Unanswered (3/)
FrankTheCube
I had no idea he had a daughter till now.
BlibberingHumdinger
Theres a kind of hilarious RomCom movie about his daughter...
otterlily
Yes! I like this movie a lot.
MackanK
His last grandchild died in 2008.
His daughter died at 1 year old.
CyBercrook
Gonna go out on a limb and say he had more than one.
This is his stepdaughter
SnartHelg
She must have gotten better, then
He cheated on his wife and was emotionally unavailable to his kids. Genius he may have been, a good family man he was definitely not.
GoodnessGraciousGreatBallsOfFiree
Real life rick sanchez
CallmeMefford
From what I understand, geniuses are rarely ideal parents or citizens.
Feynman is a perfect counterpoint to that suggestion, however.
You got me there. Touché
Pheralg
thanks Yoda
Huh?
your last line, it's written in the same way Yoda speaks
No, it's written in the way normal humans speak.
RhorGath
I love legal immigration. We have cool shit and want to know about your cool shit. It's the "illegal" bit that I don't like.
IconoclasticPurpleCat
in selecting America as a land of freedom, a mistake I cannot repair in the balance of my lifetime.” - Albert Einstein 2/2
MidnightLady
They have the same nose.
ObliqueRay
Pretty sure he regarded that as the best decision he ever made.
kowshikpal
Albert Einstein Knowledge T-Shirt : http://imgur.com/utufBdW
MegaDeuce
"Can you demonstrate you have skills that no American citizen currently possesses?".... "Uh yeah bro that shouldn't be a problem"
SluggoMcPuggo
he's been waiting for that high five ever since.
TehRap
Legal immigration is a good thing* FTFY
erbiumyttriumytterbium
Daughter?! Stepdaughter, maybe. He had two sons who made it into adulthood.
watchmetoast
Stepdaughter Margo
ThatWouldBeGreatMKay
Yes, Immigration IS a good thing...WHEN DONE LEGALLY.
AbortedFetusNecrophiliac69
Nazis would have had nukes ... good that he didnt go back
Mavgurian
He was not the only scientist between 1935-45
BayazTheBenevolent
No but the majority of know-how behind the Manhattan Project came from Germany. The same is true for NASA.
Imnotu
Immigration is a great thing. See in this picture, these are people becoming citizens. Spread the word.
RVME
He is one of the most mystical of scientists too. Read all his quotes, not just the ones that support mathematics. Rich Jews also stayed.
papadragon0
What if the next Einstein is somewhere in Syria waiting to earn his refugee status?
Zyhmdaryhm
What if the next Einstein is somewhere in muslim bombing, or in the way of the truck of peace?
ChinaMike808
At least she doesn't have his mustache.
BubbleBaath
LEGAL immigration is a good thing. In case it hasn't been said enough...
Lylos
Nah
BubbleBaath
ProfanePag
Albert Einstein had only one daughter who was born in 1902 and died in 1903.
Mavgurian
The whole post is bull. "Rather" a US-citizen ... his family was jewish, wonder why he would not want to go back ...
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
Margot Einstein, stepdaughter.
watchmetoast
Correct! Also pictured below.
schrodingersasymmetric12gauge
Sorta like H1B....
blainetog
But just think of all the jobs he must've taken. Like, at least 4 jobs.
Bahmedino
Oh this comment section is going to be good.
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Wellshiet
Can you blame them?
Gwurver
Wellshiet
Grab the popcorn boys
LadiesManTwo17
why?
nanobot101
http://imgur.com/eXWVZHe
pinfox
LarfleezePlz
Peregrine2976
Something something addition to my collection.
DieDeutschenKommen
hehe
TripUpStairs
National Geo channel has a show about Einstein's life starting Tuesday (US).
watchmetoast
Thanks for sharing!
DungeonMaster69
Genius? Starting in Finland too if it's the same show
Cattrina
torilla tavataan XD
TripUpStairs
Yep that's the name of it. Good actors in the line up too.
bobbylan1955
Immigration is supposed to be a beautiful thing. A life goal an honor a achievement. Maybe we can get that back ... We all deserve it.
Zyhmdaryhm
Feel free to fullfill your life goal, be honored and reach your achievements by emigrating to someplace elsewhere.
hitthatbomb
*Educated, value-sharing, society contributing, assimilating immigration is a good thing.
ratfaceddog
Assimilating to what?
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ratfaceddog
What do you see as definitive "western culture?" Do you conform to it 100%?
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ratfaceddog
You're conflating legal matters with cultural ones, though. "Assimilating" to laws is a given. You've still not said what "elements" 1/2
BayazTheBenevolent
I wonder, would you kick out US born citizens that don't fit the above mentioned criteria?
BayazTheBenevolent
How big of a percentage of a population does it take to define what values are desirable? What happens to those that disagree?
terryr
(Albert's children) Lieserl Einstein (1902–1903), Hans Albert Einstein (1904–1973), Eduard Einstein (1910–1965) She looks old for 1 year.
buell3r
What?
edehae
His biological daughter died at 1 year old. This is his step-daughter, Margot.
watchmetoast
Stepdaughter Margo
Youropinionisirrelevant
Right! Legal immigration! There's the difference!
GreaterDog
So keeping them out would've been fine if FDR/Truman had signed a travel ban?
Youropinionisirrelevant
Is that what we're talking about is a travel ban? NO! Legally immigrated! There wasn't a threat of terrorism like there is now!!!
ScientistFromSouth
How about the possibility of German spies getting positions in military labs? A lot of German scientists worked on the atom bomb.
GreaterDog
The US was generally reluctant to accept any Jewish refugees, especially with the knowledge of the death camps not coming to light until
GreaterDog
after the war. Many got in, but thousands were turned away. The Japanese, on the other hand, got the painful pleasure of Uncle Sam's shaft
GreaterDog
They came as refugees, not job-seekers. You're aware of Trump's travel ban, right? So yes, that is what we're talking about. Plus, you can't
Youropinionisirrelevant
No we're talking about lethal immigration
GreaterDog
tell me people weren't wary of the threat of immigrants when they mass-jailed Japanese-Americans. Legality can be nullified by a piece of
Youropinionisirrelevant
But in today's world how can you tell the enemy of the state from the "refugees"??!! You can't. The travel ban is to protect the public!!!
GreaterDog
paper, but the morality doesn't change. But your use of exclamation points tells me we're not gonna have a proper conversation here.
MrDaMann
Legal immigration is good all for it. Illegal immigration not so good
UltimateBooty
Illegal immigration is often hard to define and sometime impossible to avoid for some people
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UltimateBooty
ice has been known to literally wait outside courts waiting for people trying to get visas approved
BayazTheBenevolent
The old legal / illegal argument never fails to anger me. As if legality somehow makes something automatically morally right.
LizardEnterprises
So if Anne Frank had jumped off a boat and swam ashore illegally rather than getting gassed to death, that would be bad?
CrunkleRas
No it would not. That's not what he's implying either. Dont take it out of context.
LizardEnterprises
1/2 Dude made a blanket statement. He didn't say "Illegal immigration is USUALLY not so good" he said " Illegal immigration not so good"
LizardEnterprises
3/3 a shitty job making his argument by not being specific about what he means. Either of those merits being challenged.
Zyhmdaryhm
He is implying that illigal imigrants are quantuum physicists.
LizardEnterprises
2/3 He's either implying that there's no situation in which illegal immigration is justified - a morally abhorrent stance - or he's doing
septillion
Never forget that everything Hitler did in Germany was legal. Don't assume that breaking the law is always bad, or following it good.
CrunkleRas
Nothing you do is illegal if you control the government...
septillion
which is why legality isn't a good way to decide if something is moral or not.
DrParasek
never forget that there were countries which only took the high educated or rich people and the rest died. ...
dighthorse
never forget, because someday we should go back to that way
AninOnin
We're still doing that.
berserk
British politicians refused entry to a shipload of 300 Jews.
DemonsPain88
And Venezuela, America and Canada all refused 900 jews from a boat. It was sent back.
watchmetoast
True
BayazTheBenevolent
You mean the United States?
MsHissyPants
...'were'?
ExTechOp
Even worse, universities like Harvard and Columbia had a Jewish quota — a lot of the highly educated European escapees were of course Jews.
ExTechOp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_quota => ht">quota">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_quota => https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerus_clausus#United_States
wyosurfer
my grandfather, an American-born Jew, was denied entry into Columbia for that very reason.
adr1an
And now they have Asian quotas. If you want your students to be representative of the entire population, you'll have to use quotas. Pick.
lokitoki81
Sweden is doing its best atm to reverse those stats... We got the best of the best
nahemah
That's how the world works, get over it.
Bortus
Exactly, what I dont understand is why people keep getting surprised that people are shitty.
nahemah
It's easy to point fingers ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
HowDoIChangeMyUsername
It shouldn't tho.
nahemah
No, but are you going to change it?
HowDoIChangeMyUsername
I'll spend my life trying, as should we all.
StarSpangeledAbroad
*cough* United States *cough*
Hetuni
Fascism is seeming to become popular... Again
anubisfike
Increasing poverty tends to do that.
rocketman89
Lol, so those 4.5 *MILLION* Irish immigrants came because they were Rhodes Scholars and not victims of the famine?
ChuckNorrisAteMySock
Doing the right thing once does not absolve one of their responsibility to keep doing it.
rocketman89
I agree 100%; I just don't agree with the patently false accusation that American has been unfair to immigrants in the past.
thegreatalan
It has, frequently in fact, however one such as yourself will probably scoff at any notion beyond your own parroting mouth.
geauxjeaux
No country takes in more immigrants. Just try to become a citizen of Japan, Saudi Arabia, etc.
riddlemehiddleston
Yeah but Irish immigrants were treated like shit, they were considered cheap work force and worth less than black slaves
pdxenburg
Weren't most of the atrocities against Jews only found out after the war? That's gotta take some of the heat off
StarkRG
It was known they were being murdered by the tens of thousands, that they underestimated by two orders of magnitude lets them off the hook?
SatansLover
Sure.. but there was also loads of antisemitism at the time. Even in the US. People really hated Jews.
AlecCorvander
Hitler called Jewish people a disease and said in no uncertain terms that his desire was to eradicate Jews. (1/)
AlecCorvander
No heat gets taken off. Fuck those racist shit heads then and fuck them now. The only consolation is some of the world learned that (2/)
AlecCorvander
lesson. That's why I hate how people are so whiney about political correctness: language matters, what people say matters. Unanswered (3/)
FrankTheCube
I had no idea he had a daughter till now.
BlibberingHumdinger
Theres a kind of hilarious RomCom movie about his daughter...
otterlily
Yes! I like this movie a lot.
MackanK
His last grandchild died in 2008.
terryr
His daughter died at 1 year old.
CyBercrook
Gonna go out on a limb and say he had more than one.
watchmetoast
This is his stepdaughter
SnartHelg
She must have gotten better, then
StarkRG
He cheated on his wife and was emotionally unavailable to his kids. Genius he may have been, a good family man he was definitely not.
GoodnessGraciousGreatBallsOfFiree
Real life rick sanchez
CallmeMefford
From what I understand, geniuses are rarely ideal parents or citizens.
StarkRG
Feynman is a perfect counterpoint to that suggestion, however.
CallmeMefford
You got me there. Touché
Pheralg
thanks Yoda
StarkRG
Huh?
Pheralg
your last line, it's written in the same way Yoda speaks
StarkRG
No, it's written in the way normal humans speak.