How about a chunk of Germany? IIRC, that's what Jews were offered at the end of WWII, but they turned that down and decided to make it Palestine's problem instead.
They declared a full invasion. Hamas was never the target, they were the excuse, the casus belli. Whatever they don't take through military force, they'll continue to steal through gradual settler invasion, as they've already been doing, legally under their laws. Palestine will be no more.
1) Palestine is more than just Gaza, it also includes the West Bank, which is controlled by Fatah (who hates Hamas) and East Jerusalem and is not at war with Israel and 2) I think massacring over 1000 people in a day, over 90% of which are civilians, including murdering over 260 concert goers makes Hamas a pretty big target. If you actually cared for a free Palestine you would condemn Hamas’ actions, as, per their charter, they are only concerned with the eradication of Jews, not freedom.
If I cared for a free Palestine, I would condemn Hamas? That makes no sense. Hamas has nothing to do with Israel systematically erasing Palestinian existence. Hamas is a gaggle of shitbags that deserve to be hung, but that won't free Palestine. Israel not being controlled by an ethno-nationalist regime, not being dedicated to controlling all of the historic lands of Israel and willing to take homes and rights from Palestinian civilians will be a START to a free Palestine.
Hamas has opposed making any peace with Israel, and attacking anyone who has attempted to make peace with Israel (part of the motivation for this recent attack is believed to be to prevent Saudi Arabia from recognizing Israel), probably most famously being the Oslo Accords and the second Intifada. While I agree the heavy handiness of Israel is also to blame for the deterioration of relations between the PA and the Israeli government, Hamas’ founding purpose is to destroy Israel, not to free…
Palestine. They are an extremism organization who will sabotage any effort by the PA and Israeli government to form a lasting peace, which could lead to recognition of territorial land. This is one of the main reasons why both Egypt and Fatah support the blockade around Gaza, as neither of these organizations support nor feel they can deal with Hamas on a daily basis. Unfortunately Hamas has remained the government in Gaza since their last election in 2006, so I don’t see this changing soon.
None of this changes two simple facts. One, Hamas has never and will never be strong enough to achieve that goal. Israel is a powerful nation with powerful allies and unless they obtain nukes, they will never achieve their goal, and have never come close. Two, again, if Hamas disappeared tomorrow, Israel would still continue erasing Palestine at a leisurely pace as they've been doing for decades, because that is Israel's goal. Sending settlers to steal homes has nothing to do with Hamas.
lightfoot2
Time to move all the Palestinians to Madagascar or something.....
AllTheGoodOnesAreTaken68
If only there weren't trigger-happy militaries posted at every border preventing anyone from leaving the country.
suffyr
We should give the Palestians land to live in somewhere. Like Jerusalem
tinyfootprints
How about a chunk of Germany? IIRC, that's what Jews were offered at the end of WWII, but they turned that down and decided to make it Palestine's problem instead.
d0o0o0d
....well, it is really easy to understand why jews wouldn't want to be anywhere near Germany after what happened during WW2.
tinyfootprints
For many who suffered the Holocaust, Germany was their home already.
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
They declared a full invasion. Hamas was never the target, they were the excuse, the casus belli. Whatever they don't take through military force, they'll continue to steal through gradual settler invasion, as they've already been doing, legally under their laws. Palestine will be no more.
bobbyjoe4444
1) Palestine is more than just Gaza, it also includes the West Bank, which is controlled by Fatah (who hates Hamas) and East Jerusalem and is not at war with Israel and 2) I think massacring over 1000 people in a day, over 90% of which are civilians, including murdering over 260 concert goers makes Hamas a pretty big target. If you actually cared for a free Palestine you would condemn Hamas’ actions, as, per their charter, they are only concerned with the eradication of Jews, not freedom.
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
If I cared for a free Palestine, I would condemn Hamas? That makes no sense. Hamas has nothing to do with Israel systematically erasing Palestinian existence. Hamas is a gaggle of shitbags that deserve to be hung, but that won't free Palestine. Israel not being controlled by an ethno-nationalist regime, not being dedicated to controlling all of the historic lands of Israel and willing to take homes and rights from Palestinian civilians will be a START to a free Palestine.
bobbyjoe4444
Hamas has opposed making any peace with Israel, and attacking anyone who has attempted to make peace with Israel (part of the motivation for this recent attack is believed to be to prevent Saudi Arabia from recognizing Israel), probably most famously being the Oslo Accords and the second Intifada. While I agree the heavy handiness of Israel is also to blame for the deterioration of relations between the PA and the Israeli government, Hamas’ founding purpose is to destroy Israel, not to free…
bobbyjoe4444
Palestine. They are an extremism organization who will sabotage any effort by the PA and Israeli government to form a lasting peace, which could lead to recognition of territorial land. This is one of the main reasons why both Egypt and Fatah support the blockade around Gaza, as neither of these organizations support nor feel they can deal with Hamas on a daily basis. Unfortunately Hamas has remained the government in Gaza since their last election in 2006, so I don’t see this changing soon.
mutingisforcowardsandsycophants
None of this changes two simple facts. One, Hamas has never and will never be strong enough to achieve that goal. Israel is a powerful nation with powerful allies and unless they obtain nukes, they will never achieve their goal, and have never come close. Two, again, if Hamas disappeared tomorrow, Israel would still continue erasing Palestine at a leisurely pace as they've been doing for decades, because that is Israel's goal. Sending settlers to steal homes has nothing to do with Hamas.