Nov 21, 2021 11:16 PM
TheSimpleDude
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drenix
I feel the suit could've been separable, since it was nanotech, I feel they can be programmed to "If part_of_body = false then separate"
pioneer411
Persmo
Would he be in so much pain if his nervous system was failing?
litelbrown
I don't know. He didn't look like he was having a good time.
Ryulin25
Without the stones, Thanos couldn't even stop Tony from flying over to Captain Marvel and letting her use it. He died for nothing.
fragya3000
Honestly Thanos was dominating all of them without the stones so no.
fortherecipes
I like the Tony Stark was so used to suffering he was stronger concept
OrigamiShark
It took me the longest time to figure out that Wong was Prime from the Countdown episode of The IT Crowd.
Grimmn
I'd like Wong to speak at mine, I want to make sure everyone who wants to ask him gets a detailed retelling of how badly I fucked up cooking
Grimmn never learned to fold in the cheese
sfrinlan
What does that even mean? Do I have to fold each shred in half? This is your recipe!
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
I mean Banner didnt exactly make it look like it tickled.
Iamyourcaptainnow
Half of humanity gone seems like a good thing, there was no need to fix that. And I'd rather have good old Tony back.
Mr21782Man
So why didn't he let Captain America do it? Or Captain Marvel? Or any one of the other more robust beings?
Preincarnated
Seems like reading a lot into it that might not have been there, but sure, I guess?
Zappers42
If his nerves failed, he wouldn’t feel the pain anymore
Mazena
If he was paralyzed, I don't think the pain was no longer the issue for him.
ResonantPause
Here's a science take: https://youtu.be/tsAHSw81aJg
TheMaXX37
Kyle Hill is SO entertaining!
PoppinLochNessHopster
Surely the suit was capable of delivering pain meds, and already had, so there is that?
HolyHokie
Pain medication don't work with extreme radiation damage. When you get cooked...you die slow and in agony. Radiation is terrifying
PyroAvok
That's more long term, after your blood vessels have melted.
Astramancer
The HEV suit will pump gallons of morphine into you after you take rad damage. Seems to work.
Ulthirm
Technically some pain meds WILL work to help with that sort of damage but not like IbuProfen.
hirosjimma
There's this one incident in japan where a vat of waste went prompt critical. The tech nearby who got the biggest dose ½
Was begging his caretakers to let him die until they intubated him. He survived for a month I believe. Do not look up pics, you're warned.
JayDeeDubs
Tony's armour is nanotech at that point, so getting his body out of the suit at least shouldn't have been an issue
wazscience
That quantity of radiation could have fused the nanides together, preventing it from being taken off.
TK421isAFK
I love how people are applying comic-book-pseudoscience to this story, as if *any* of this exists or is even close to accurate science.
Shovi
Not applying pseudoscience, just trying to find some resemblance of logic on how things worked the way the worked.
gnomedeplume
the power of the stones would have cooked the suit as much as Tony's insides, much like it did to the gauntlet Thanos used twice
Odin6616
The gauntlet looked pretty functional after The Hulk used it, and the nanotech must’ve worked to get the stones to release.
You ever see what lightning does to sand? That.
PerpetuityPhoto
Also "Go run a really powerful current through a group of fine-controlled tiny machines and see how long they stay operational"
slinkydust
It's also fiction so you can make up whatever pseudo science you want
4vie
The line "They poured him outta his boots" from "Glory, glory" comes to mind.....
AsianLeprechaun
I think he was dead or at least couldn't feel himself dying after using the gauntlet.
DrMardini
Thanks Wong that was neat, I can't wait for next week
umwht
I want Wong to speak at my funeral
cybermage256
So you're saying Stark was Christ and died so everyone else could live again?
zenprime
Should Wong just be bringing facts? Disturbing, fun, weird, common sense? It's Wong, he does it all.
Metallica93
I particularly enjoyed the this-ain't-your-daddy's-Captain-America kick from 'The Winter Soldier'. Cap severed a dude's spinal column.
Kangg
Didn't get that far... Couldn't finish this movie, it was hot trash.
I think you're kind of an idiot for thinking any movie is "hot trash" while only (supposedly) having watched 5 minutes of it.
How many cheese dick lines and horrible fight scenes do I need to get through before you allow me to pass judgment?
There were none that far into the film, but nice try? What film did you even watch? lol
You're clearly a Marvel fanboy, so you do you...
SpaceHaggis
Put metal gear solid 2 on his list
malakim
Shang-Chi pretty much murders like 20 goons in the first 30min of the movie. Throws them off a high-rise.
walnutbreath
He throws a guy who may be acting under the influence of mind control off the Helicarrier in Avengers
pmathew
Doubtful. Barton said ‘Shield has no shortage of enemies’. So they were probably mercenaries from some competing faction.
Dungeongeek
Corridor Digital Did a pretty good modification of marvel footage. https://youtu.be/k5-3eujJyZE
CorrugatedUrethra1995
He straight up shot dudes in the first one. Sure you don't see it but they didn't look like warning shots.
Wasn't that only for the Captain America propaganda films and then they copied that one time for the gate-storming scene in a HYDRA base?
PhailRaptor
You know I think it's just that one scene going through the gate. We never see him holding a gun otherwise.
mercilessloki
There was the one part of the fighting montages where he tosses a whole bundle of grenades in a tank, too.
NachtReborn
This is explained in the comics with the explanation that Capt America used guns while in WW2 because it was a war, after he thawed out and
joined the modern world, he wasn't in a (declared) war, so hung up his guns and went to just fist/feet/shield.
SolaceAvatar
If the infinity gauntlet can do literally anything, couldn't you have 'survive the effects of using the infinity gauntlet' with your wish?
morelikeconsham
It can't do anything - you can't bring back the soul used to acquire the soul gem. It seems that the consistent theme is that you can't use
The infinity stones for free - the cost must be paid.
manystripes
Yeah if you have enough time for one act of omnipotence before you die, not dying from the thing giving you omnipotence is a good start
Yeah, that'd be my first use. "Make me able to survive unharmed no matter how many times I use the Infinity Gauntlet."
Eldibs
Tony and Steve both proved the other wrong. Tony was willing to make the sacrifice play, and Steve would have been worthy without the serum.
They also both started their arc as being the Hero of the US Government and the Libertarian Rogue, respectively, and swapped to-
-government distrusting and "we need to be put under government control" right around Civil War.
fattmoley3D
Tony proved it in Avengers when he took the bomb up through the portal, he didn't know he'd come back.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
Not even that he didn't know; he didn't expect to make it back at all. He held the nuke until he was literally incapable and luckily fell in
hyjukilo
In Iron Man, he tells Pepper to overload the reactor anyway. Twice he's ready to die to save others. Wouldn't do the sacrifice play my ass.
To be fair, no sane person would have picked Tony over Steve as more trustworthy/willing to lay down their lives up until 'The Avengers'.
turomar
How did Steve prove he was worthy without the serum?
He proved it, and that was why he got the serum.
Dukeboysz
Remember the dude with scalded off face from the 1st Cap movie? Thats what happens when you arent worthy (among other things)
Most hilarious description of a comic book character (Red Skull, by the way) I've seen in a while. More posts like this, please.
NeynasGhost
Thor's Hammer, I guess? The serum wouldn't change whether or not it considered him worthy enough to wield it, so the fact that he can proves
TheRoomIsBest
That scene would've worked better if Thanos used the time stone to make Steve skinny again and it was skinny Steve who picked up the hammer
ArchonIlladrya
I dunno, you have to be able to fight, he can't without the serum.
The Hammer MAKES you powerful. Why would Steve being physically weaker change it's judgement of his spirit? We see in TFA that Steve was
already willing to put up a fight, even while weak, for what was just. THAT'S what the Hammer looks at, not muscles.
KMakyra
But he never gave up even when losing a fight. That was before the serum. He sacrificed himself in boot camp, too. That's worthiness. 1/2
Don't forget, "he who works this hammer, should he be worthy, shall wield the power of Thor." It would've imbued him with power. 2/2
Tony was wrong when he said everything special about Cap "came from a bottle".
gecko08
Well Tony was also wrong because what made Cap special was that he was "not a perfect soldier but a good man."
Malikhi
Keep in mind that Cap tried lifting it once and it only budged. He wasnt worthy when he and Tony said those things, he grew to become worthy
And I'm not convinced he would've if not for the serum. It was the experiences he had as cap that forged him into the worthy hero.
Alavar
He was worthy then too. He just didn't do it because he didn't wanna wreck thors ego. There is no just "budging" the hammer.
AfterMidknight
Budging the hammer means he can move it. There’s no “maybe worthy”. Yes or no. Moving it means yes. It was confirmed he chose not to.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
I still prefer Skeletor to be my disturbing fact provider, but Wong is okay. If I subscribe to Wong facts, will Skeletor find out?
ToSisPoS
Yes, but the end-of-cartoon format is for morality lessons, not facts. The meme went down the Luke I Am Your Father derail.
doobiedoobop
Yes. He won't be mad, just disappointed.
Hornsoup
Until we meet again!
OhNoNotThatGuyQuickEverybodyHide
More people spreading disturbing facts is exactly what Skeletor wants! If Skeletor knows or finds out...no biggie.
That sounds like a trap...
pareidoliaperson
I thought skeletor delivers only weird fun facts you didn't wanna know, ever. But here be skeletor to tell you anyway. Yahyahayyahyah
Skeletor delivers many kinds of facts.
Klaxun
How can it be Wong if it feels so right?
Hawkofnight
I think so but I might be wong.
BanCannon
Skeletor and Wong probably go out for tea and to debate. And use the disturbing truths to drop on people as poker chips.
Not the weirdest slightly-green barely-human thing Wong consorts with... (cough Watch Shang Chi cough)
flavormedlies
Either way, this is probably the Wong way to find out about this.
InTangier
Yes.
Kakeukh
Well I mean, Skeletor can be wrong, but Wong cannot be skreletor, so...
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
I agree with you, but I love the fact (ha!) that "Wong Facts" sounds like an oxymoron.
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
CrypticTree
decarnatedame
OMG. Best response I have seen in months.
I really wanted to know if he went to the wedding now.
IFriggenLoveBears
I could be wrong but I was under the impression Wong was also blipped so he'd have been dead at the time Tony and Pepper were wed.
DrScott
Wong didn't get blipped. That's why he became the Sorcerer Supreme when Strange got blipped.
His poster was full color, not grey like the dusted characters; he might have gone.
CaroleBaskingShark
Wow. You pulled all that straight out of your ass. Congrats on having an ass full
It put off so much radiation that it severely injured Hulk AND Thanos. But yeah, normal human guy Tony was unharmed by that, sure.
TheElicitor
Well, not the radiation part. Remember Hulk was planned 2 use it because it gave off massive gamma radiation. "Its like I was made for this"
radiation heats things up, other than being a realistic expectation, what is he pulling out of his has?
MrKomisiripala
I read somewhere how he was able to withstand it for as long as he did b/c unlike Thanos or Hulk (practically naturally invulnerable) his >
Life was filled w/ emotional & physical pain in a way Hulk/Thanos could never experience
wearywanderer
In what way was Bruce Banner's life not filled with emotional pain though?
I suppose Thanos & Bruce both did have emotional pain. One went Psycho the other went full Angel.
notkvothethebloodless
(1)The og source they are referring to doesnt mention emotional pain. It's purely physical. Thanos and hulk are nigh invulnerable so for
(2) them to feel pain is a big deal. Tonys story is nothing but physical pain, and has been since day 1 for him. Him feeling a pain that
(3) would bring a god to there knees is just another tuesday to him. If he had survived it would have just been another hurtle to get over.
drenix
I feel the suit could've been separable, since it was nanotech, I feel they can be programmed to "If part_of_body = false then separate"
pioneer411
Persmo
Would he be in so much pain if his nervous system was failing?
litelbrown
I don't know. He didn't look like he was having a good time.
Ryulin25
Without the stones, Thanos couldn't even stop Tony from flying over to Captain Marvel and letting her use it. He died for nothing.
fragya3000
Honestly Thanos was dominating all of them without the stones so no.
fortherecipes
I like the Tony Stark was so used to suffering he was stronger concept
OrigamiShark
It took me the longest time to figure out that Wong was Prime from the Countdown episode of The IT Crowd.
Grimmn
I'd like Wong to speak at mine, I want to make sure everyone who wants to ask him gets a detailed retelling of how badly I fucked up cooking
TheSimpleDude
Grimmn never learned to fold in the cheese
sfrinlan
What does that even mean? Do I have to fold each shred in half? This is your recipe!
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
I mean Banner didnt exactly make it look like it tickled.
Iamyourcaptainnow
Half of humanity gone seems like a good thing, there was no need to fix that. And I'd rather have good old Tony back.
Mr21782Man
So why didn't he let Captain America do it? Or Captain Marvel? Or any one of the other more robust beings?
Preincarnated
Seems like reading a lot into it that might not have been there, but sure, I guess?
Zappers42
If his nerves failed, he wouldn’t feel the pain anymore
Mazena
If he was paralyzed, I don't think the pain was no longer the issue for him.
ResonantPause
Here's a science take: https://youtu.be/tsAHSw81aJg
TheMaXX37
Kyle Hill is SO entertaining!
PoppinLochNessHopster
Surely the suit was capable of delivering pain meds, and already had, so there is that?
HolyHokie
Pain medication don't work with extreme radiation damage. When you get cooked...you die slow and in agony. Radiation is terrifying
PyroAvok
That's more long term, after your blood vessels have melted.
Astramancer
The HEV suit will pump gallons of morphine into you after you take rad damage. Seems to work.
Ulthirm
Technically some pain meds WILL work to help with that sort of damage but not like IbuProfen.
hirosjimma
There's this one incident in japan where a vat of waste went prompt critical. The tech nearby who got the biggest dose ½
hirosjimma
Was begging his caretakers to let him die until they intubated him. He survived for a month I believe. Do not look up pics, you're warned.
JayDeeDubs
Tony's armour is nanotech at that point, so getting his body out of the suit at least shouldn't have been an issue
wazscience
That quantity of radiation could have fused the nanides together, preventing it from being taken off.
TK421isAFK
I love how people are applying comic-book-pseudoscience to this story, as if *any* of this exists or is even close to accurate science.
Shovi
Not applying pseudoscience, just trying to find some resemblance of logic on how things worked the way the worked.
gnomedeplume
the power of the stones would have cooked the suit as much as Tony's insides, much like it did to the gauntlet Thanos used twice
Odin6616
The gauntlet looked pretty functional after The Hulk used it, and the nanotech must’ve worked to get the stones to release.
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
You ever see what lightning does to sand? That.
PerpetuityPhoto
Also "Go run a really powerful current through a group of fine-controlled tiny machines and see how long they stay operational"
slinkydust
It's also fiction so you can make up whatever pseudo science you want
4vie
The line "They poured him outta his boots" from "Glory, glory" comes to mind.....
AsianLeprechaun
I think he was dead or at least couldn't feel himself dying after using the gauntlet.
DrMardini
Thanks Wong that was neat, I can't wait for next week
umwht
I want Wong to speak at my funeral
cybermage256
So you're saying Stark was Christ and died so everyone else could live again?
zenprime
Should Wong just be bringing facts? Disturbing, fun, weird, common sense? It's Wong, he does it all.
Metallica93
I particularly enjoyed the this-ain't-your-daddy's-Captain-America kick from 'The Winter Soldier'. Cap severed a dude's spinal column.
Kangg
Didn't get that far... Couldn't finish this movie, it was hot trash.
Metallica93
I think you're kind of an idiot for thinking any movie is "hot trash" while only (supposedly) having watched 5 minutes of it.
Kangg
How many cheese dick lines and horrible fight scenes do I need to get through before you allow me to pass judgment?
Metallica93
There were none that far into the film, but nice try? What film did you even watch? lol
Kangg
You're clearly a Marvel fanboy, so you do you...
SpaceHaggis
Put metal gear solid 2 on his list
malakim
Shang-Chi pretty much murders like 20 goons in the first 30min of the movie. Throws them off a high-rise.
walnutbreath
He throws a guy who may be acting under the influence of mind control off the Helicarrier in Avengers
pmathew
Doubtful. Barton said ‘Shield has no shortage of enemies’. So they were probably mercenaries from some competing faction.
Dungeongeek
Corridor Digital Did a pretty good modification of marvel footage. https://youtu.be/k5-3eujJyZE
CorrugatedUrethra1995
He straight up shot dudes in the first one. Sure you don't see it but they didn't look like warning shots.
Metallica93
Wasn't that only for the Captain America propaganda films and then they copied that one time for the gate-storming scene in a HYDRA base?
PhailRaptor
You know I think it's just that one scene going through the gate. We never see him holding a gun otherwise.
mercilessloki
There was the one part of the fighting montages where he tosses a whole bundle of grenades in a tank, too.
NachtReborn
This is explained in the comics with the explanation that Capt America used guns while in WW2 because it was a war, after he thawed out and
NachtReborn
joined the modern world, he wasn't in a (declared) war, so hung up his guns and went to just fist/feet/shield.
SolaceAvatar
If the infinity gauntlet can do literally anything, couldn't you have 'survive the effects of using the infinity gauntlet' with your wish?
morelikeconsham
It can't do anything - you can't bring back the soul used to acquire the soul gem. It seems that the consistent theme is that you can't use
morelikeconsham
The infinity stones for free - the cost must be paid.
manystripes
Yeah if you have enough time for one act of omnipotence before you die, not dying from the thing giving you omnipotence is a good start
SolaceAvatar
Yeah, that'd be my first use. "Make me able to survive unharmed no matter how many times I use the Infinity Gauntlet."
Eldibs
Tony and Steve both proved the other wrong. Tony was willing to make the sacrifice play, and Steve would have been worthy without the serum.
PerpetuityPhoto
They also both started their arc as being the Hero of the US Government and the Libertarian Rogue, respectively, and swapped to-
PerpetuityPhoto
-government distrusting and "we need to be put under government control" right around Civil War.
fattmoley3D
Tony proved it in Avengers when he took the bomb up through the portal, he didn't know he'd come back.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
Not even that he didn't know; he didn't expect to make it back at all. He held the nuke until he was literally incapable and luckily fell in
hyjukilo
In Iron Man, he tells Pepper to overload the reactor anyway. Twice he's ready to die to save others. Wouldn't do the sacrifice play my ass.
Metallica93
To be fair, no sane person would have picked Tony over Steve as more trustworthy/willing to lay down their lives up until 'The Avengers'.
turomar
How did Steve prove he was worthy without the serum?
fattmoley3D
He proved it, and that was why he got the serum.
Dukeboysz
Remember the dude with scalded off face from the 1st Cap movie? Thats what happens when you arent worthy (among other things)
Metallica93
Most hilarious description of a comic book character (Red Skull, by the way) I've seen in a while. More posts like this, please.
NeynasGhost
Thor's Hammer, I guess? The serum wouldn't change whether or not it considered him worthy enough to wield it, so the fact that he can proves
TheRoomIsBest
That scene would've worked better if Thanos used the time stone to make Steve skinny again and it was skinny Steve who picked up the hammer
ArchonIlladrya
I dunno, you have to be able to fight, he can't without the serum.
NeynasGhost
The Hammer MAKES you powerful. Why would Steve being physically weaker change it's judgement of his spirit? We see in TFA that Steve was
NeynasGhost
already willing to put up a fight, even while weak, for what was just. THAT'S what the Hammer looks at, not muscles.
KMakyra
But he never gave up even when losing a fight. That was before the serum. He sacrificed himself in boot camp, too. That's worthiness. 1/2
KMakyra
Don't forget, "he who works this hammer, should he be worthy, shall wield the power of Thor." It would've imbued him with power. 2/2
NeynasGhost
Tony was wrong when he said everything special about Cap "came from a bottle".
gecko08
Well Tony was also wrong because what made Cap special was that he was "not a perfect soldier but a good man."
Malikhi
Keep in mind that Cap tried lifting it once and it only budged. He wasnt worthy when he and Tony said those things, he grew to become worthy
Malikhi
And I'm not convinced he would've if not for the serum. It was the experiences he had as cap that forged him into the worthy hero.
Alavar
He was worthy then too. He just didn't do it because he didn't wanna wreck thors ego. There is no just "budging" the hammer.
AfterMidknight
Budging the hammer means he can move it. There’s no “maybe worthy”. Yes or no. Moving it means yes. It was confirmed he chose not to.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
I still prefer Skeletor to be my disturbing fact provider, but Wong is okay. If I subscribe to Wong facts, will Skeletor find out?
ToSisPoS
Yes, but the end-of-cartoon format is for morality lessons, not facts. The meme went down the Luke I Am Your Father derail.
doobiedoobop
Yes. He won't be mad, just disappointed.
Hornsoup
Until we meet again!
OhNoNotThatGuyQuickEverybodyHide
More people spreading disturbing facts is exactly what Skeletor wants! If Skeletor knows or finds out...no biggie.
SlaaneshiRightsFront
That sounds like a trap...
pareidoliaperson
I thought skeletor delivers only weird fun facts you didn't wanna know, ever. But here be skeletor to tell you anyway. Yahyahayyahyah
SlaaneshiRightsFront
Skeletor delivers many kinds of facts.
Klaxun
How can it be Wong if it feels so right?
Hawkofnight
I think so but I might be wong.
BanCannon
Skeletor and Wong probably go out for tea and to debate. And use the disturbing truths to drop on people as poker chips.
PerpetuityPhoto
Not the weirdest slightly-green barely-human thing Wong consorts with... (cough Watch Shang Chi cough)
flavormedlies
Either way, this is probably the Wong way to find out about this.
InTangier
Yes.
Kakeukh
Well I mean, Skeletor can be wrong, but Wong cannot be skreletor, so...
BallsDeepinaDragonscloaca
I agree with you, but I love the fact (ha!) that "Wong Facts" sounds like an oxymoron.
Billyjimjoejohngerryjosephgeorgejames
CrypticTree
decarnatedame
OMG. Best response I have seen in months.
zenprime
I really wanted to know if he went to the wedding now.
IFriggenLoveBears
I could be wrong but I was under the impression Wong was also blipped so he'd have been dead at the time Tony and Pepper were wed.
DrScott
Wong didn't get blipped. That's why he became the Sorcerer Supreme when Strange got blipped.
PyroAvok
His poster was full color, not grey like the dusted characters; he might have gone.
CaroleBaskingShark
Wow. You pulled all that straight out of your ass. Congrats on having an ass full
NeynasGhost
It put off so much radiation that it severely injured Hulk AND Thanos. But yeah, normal human guy Tony was unharmed by that, sure.
TheElicitor
Well, not the radiation part. Remember Hulk was planned 2 use it because it gave off massive gamma radiation. "Its like I was made for this"
PoppinLochNessHopster
radiation heats things up, other than being a realistic expectation, what is he pulling out of his has?
MrKomisiripala
I read somewhere how he was able to withstand it for as long as he did b/c unlike Thanos or Hulk (practically naturally invulnerable) his >
MrKomisiripala
Life was filled w/ emotional & physical pain in a way Hulk/Thanos could never experience
wearywanderer
In what way was Bruce Banner's life not filled with emotional pain though?
MrKomisiripala
I suppose Thanos & Bruce both did have emotional pain. One went Psycho the other went full Angel.
notkvothethebloodless
(1)The og source they are referring to doesnt mention emotional pain. It's purely physical. Thanos and hulk are nigh invulnerable so for
notkvothethebloodless
(2) them to feel pain is a big deal. Tonys story is nothing but physical pain, and has been since day 1 for him. Him feeling a pain that
notkvothethebloodless
(3) would bring a god to there knees is just another tuesday to him. If he had survived it would have just been another hurtle to get over.