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fastjeff
And now she's really cute.
Itslukus
Now that we know we can cryogenically freeze people and revive them with no ill effects. When are we gonna start sending people into space.
Whatsizname
The old saying is, "you're not dead till you're warm and dead."
brainstream
She was only "mostly dead"
hotdoginathermos
VaticRegok
Which is still partially alive!
Dhatudhatu
A real, and crazy story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_B%C3%A5genholm
MightyChlorians
avr0cky
Sorry no ?sauce? source is mentioned above but 4 u https://www.mprnews.org/story/2018/01/25/jean-hilliard-northern-minnesota-frozen-survived
MightyChlorians
IsItawKWard
Is the car okay?!!
ClassicFumiko
Minnesota!
?1
smoy686
How much of it did she remember?
flamingflamingo
If her skin was frozen solid, wouldn't she be losing chunks of it to frostbite?
StupidIdeaMaschine
I remember Lazarus effect from Doom differently....
84USNGT
An awful lot of hyperbole and horseshit in that meme.
Assholethecat
That photo is also used for S.S. Ourang Medan crew member
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
This story is bullshit (or being wildly misreported). Basic cellular biology - if you actually freeze a cell, the organelles burst.
LagginDraggon
Kbantar
Eyes frozen open but no blindness or frostbite. That's the truly bizarre part to me.
roadragem7772
Ok no brain damage what about frost bite
qbeezy444
Sub-zero is not possible on earth u click bait mofos!
trailerparkboyzbubbles
It’s easier to warm you up than cool you down if you have severe heat stroke the docs will cool your body temp to 93-95 and warm you up
reineseele
Rest of the World: 93-95 C° ; dont boil 'em
TheBentPianist
drduffer
NOT frozen solid! That’s definitely dead. Once resuscitated a 2 yo who’d been dead for an hour. 20 years later she graduated college.
tanebot
Are you a necromancer
Spincyn
When do drs decide to stop, what made u not stop? Amazing job btw!!!
wadatahmydamie
I bet that was ice to see
Bystandr
They say 12 beats per min for heartbeat on arrival at hospital so she wasnt frozen to the core, but the EYES. She didnt go blind and look:
Bystandr
Kbantar
Obviously the ice shell protected them. Duh. (But yeah, really weird.)
EMTsaidwhat
Nice. I hate peds calls. Glad that one was successful and had a good outcome. This hasn't been a.good year for them. Too many domestic calls
ElbowdeepinAgony
Why is that, because they are at home all the time?
drduffer
Because the parents are at home all the time with them, probably. And sadly.
ElbowdeepinAgony
I don't know what this means. More children in the hospital? Why, because of domestic abuse, Covid-19?
drduffer
EMT was referring to domestic violence. EMTs treat patients in the pre-hospital setting and transport to me in the ER. There’s more calls >
EMTsaidwhat
Added stress because of isolation, joblessness, and increased substance abuse.
DizzierDizzi
Master in cryogenics?
Enginerrrrrrrrr
Freezing your cells causes the water in them to puncture the membranes. Pretty hard to recover from that when done to your entire body.
drduffer
No. Bachelors.
aRootinaTootin
*cryonics
georgejimmydoodle
Freezing and thawing cells is a good way to destroy them. Used to do it all the time to harvest proteins.
ProtoSynnic
Journeyman HVAC repair specialist
Cyberpope67
diabetes kept h.sapiens around through the last ice age in Europe.
SparrowBird5000
Do you have an article for that? I'd love to read it! That's sincere, btw. I love that shit.
Cyberpope67
it also points out how hemachromatosis (overly iron in blood) protected from Black Plague. & how an Ice Age >
Cyberpope67
2> can go from normal temps to covered in ice in 80 years
Cyberpope67
Book's on a shelf downstairsl; don't recall its name offhand. I'll look tomorrow when I go down.
Cyberpope67
I made note to check it tomorrow. :) I'll pop back to this comment to give you title & author.
SparrowBird5000
Thank you!!! I'm excited!
truthader
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BTass
Theres another effect in play here too. I cant remember the name nor find it, but the last feet are the hardest and most likely for 1/2
BTass
The body to fail just before reaching safety. It is also seen in people in trying to get out of cold water.
NakorZ
Wonder if it's because you're running on adrenaline, then seeing your goal makes you feel relieved, you relax and collapse.
SantasAnagram
Yeah, the number of times I've been desperately holding in a wee and failing at the front door of the house is low, but still embarassing.
IncorrectCommentMeme
Photo unrelated
CapitalNick
Well, related. But inaccurate.
avr0cky
Photo as reference ,but that’s how a deceased body looks when they’re frozen into death 1/2
avr0cky
2/2 https://writersforensicsblog.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/how-would-the-time-of-death-be-determined-in-a-corpse-found-in-snow/amp/
EccentricNimoy
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
Fookin' spooky, mate.
thisisagoldfish
youdontevenknowbroke
JustHereForTheMemes0321
You would think she would have got frostbite on the face +1
breezybriv
I think they explained that THEY THINK it had something to do with how she was packed in the snow/already in shock before the temp dropped.
breezybriv
I think that means her circulation had already been altered? Maybe that caused less permanent damage?
JustHereForTheMemes0321
Science is nuts.
grabyerpitchforks
That's fucking wild
HeySweden
Inaccurate, she was revived hours after being in hospital not 49 days. Definitely not Frozen solid because that would destroy soft tissue.
mediocredreams
Backstory?
PickleMorty
Technically, they never said when she woke up, only when she left. Slightly deceptive ฯГΩΩГฯ
HeySweden
"..at the hospital Hilliard was wrapped in an electric blanket. Two hours later, she went into violent convulsions & regained consciousness"
HeySweden
(1981-01-09). "Physicians Say Frozen Survivors Not So Rare". Herald-Journal.
HeySweden
https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1876&dat=19810109&id=CkosAAAAIBAJ&sjid=uc0EAAAAIBAJ&pg=6891,1583308&hl=en
Elvishasnotleftthebuilding
She wasn't all dead she was just mostly dead.
InATightSpot
Quasi-dead?
abearwithcubs
He said to blaaaaaaave, which we all know means to bluff!
ItsNotPizza
She probably owed someone money
BrontTheGoodBoy
Liar!
NothingPrince
Inconceivable
BearsBearsAllTheTime
And mostly dead is slightly alive
drum4fun
Schrodinger’s human.
PebblesMaGuigey
No need to go through her pockets for loose change just yet.
EMTsaidwhat
I'm Not dead yet!
EccentricNimoy
This is her:
detour512
Looks like she wanted to talk to the manager of the afterlife and they sent her back.
BlackElkSpeaks
kodiak931155
Harsh... but im not gonna say you're wrong
GuyFromDeathValley
He was like "I'm not dealing with this shit. You survive this."
spookysexyskeleton
spoopy
TomsKid
Why did spoopy make me laugh so hard?
StayClassyImgurV2
cause...
StayClassyImgurV2
spoopy
VictusVonGuyver
Believe it or not, people have still survived worse. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/21/japan.topstories3
MrJwinkyface
She looked a lot cooler before
SuperBeetle76
I lol’d +1
JeffreyDeTar
She's hotter now
OhHeyItsKeraShae
Jesus fucking christ
fredsneed
They say him come back too.
whatsMyMeeme
LOL
AlwaysFavoriteAsian
https://external-preview.redd.it/sAKRmRmgxbi4I1cHTfhVS9SAu1EXy1mEPxjPZHXBWUw.jpg?auto=webp&s=cc4b1a7c56850fa89dc46b94aa789e64abfc67b9
OhHeyItsKeraShae
Thank you.
Sealkin
How is she not blind?
ArthurPhillipDent
She's a highlander
RadonGaming
Cells regenerate. I presume she was blind for a while after she came to.
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
Like Han Solo after being frozen in carbonite
TheBrickumentarian
It'sokicanseealotbetternow!
sombrerohorsewagon
mnit
Same question. And how are her tips not amputated from frost bite?
spookysexyskeleton
does she have frosted tips tho?
lalaleannlovespeople
A theory is that she froze so quickly there wasn’t time for cells to break down. Absolutely fascinating!
catholiccolor117
Just like surgery on ice (person is killed then brought back after surgery)
Emrys12
What is that a thing
Muffyns
F
LeftenantSebastian
I’ve read that it’s the crystallization of the cell’s water that destroys it.
HappyEngineer
Large crystals can only form if the molecules have time to move around and find their place in the lattice
jayheedan365
That’s why food is “flash frozen” keeps the cells in tact and thus better tasting
divick6300
Since her heart remained beating, i conjecture that only surface cells crystallized, forming a layer of insulation
Kimmykix
Bet she lost her hands and feet though...
permissiontolosedenied
And eyes
avr0cky
But her life was saved
AnActualHedgehog
Nope.
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iShouldProbablyGetBackToWork
But nobody talks about the chaffing
LaforgeMRA
SaveitforQueenDoppelpoppolus
[deleted]-[deleted]-"but nobody talks about the chafing"... what the hell happened here
Killerma
As they say, you're not dead until you're warm and dead.
EMTsaidwhat
Yes.
EMTMarv
This is true in hypothermia calls in EMS!
EMTsaidwhat
So very, very, much.
AManisNotACamel
Unless you’re cold and decapitated. I’d be confident of death at that point.
ImplodingPumpkin
I just had a flash back to Helsing comics.
Ccnati
I was about to post this. Like the first thing they teach about hypothermia in EMT school
MsSparkles
*looks nervously at mt. Everest*
glaug
DRRRRR....... DRRRRRR......
EMTsaidwhat
The zombies will arise with global warming. Literally a mountains worth of them.
DirtyWolfy
All the people from different points in history who were frozen just eventually waking up
PercussiveEngineering
*Narrator Voice* They knew about global warming but they never prepared for *dramatic pause* EVEREST ZOMBIES.
Infinias
Well that aren't that much...and most of 'em will fall down and be crushed before they can get anywhere sooooo
TheMuteDoge
There is an SCP for that...
PotatOSTheCreator
There's an SCP for everything huh?
Dorsk84
This is why I like the cold. If anything happens to you, you have a chance of survival. In the heat....your done.
Paggles
Only if you're not bleeding profusely. Then you still die. And then you're cold and dead.
AlmostScientist
worst part about the heat is that animals just fucking show up and start digging in. Like even if you're a live and paralyzed they'd show up
thisismysociallife
who wants to survive
TechnoBajr
Well done.
ImSorryIfYouGotOffended
Lmfao
hmangels
Joke well done
Ladris
burningeagle
BenderRodriguz1010
morelikeconsham
Then again, the cold can kill you all by itself pretty fucking easy.
Nuttburger
Yeah but if it’s too cold you can always have warmer clothes and shit but if it’s too hot you’re shit out of luck
Fishwillburnwithnowater
What, and die slower? I'm looking for the crygenic freeze
breezybriv
So can heat exposure though but I understand. My thing is at least I’m less likely to be a foul bloated corpse. That’s important to a lady.
AFistfulOfDollHairs
Unless you’re not discovered until spring. Then again you probably still won’t be bloated, only because scavengers ate you, mostly.
morelikeconsham
I know of way more examples of dying in the cold than dying in the heat, but I think that may be survivor bias - when the US discovered a
morelikeconsham
dessert just east of the sierra Nevada, they named it Death Valley and decided never to live there. When Europe and Asia discovered a frozen
avr0cky
TooMuchDad
AscendedTroll
What's the reference? Hpmor?
secondtrumpet
Just finished that and I want more of it.
ChefAJ
Former EMT that was also taught to us, live in a beach town with cold ass water.
LanceCrossfire
I read it in a book on combat in Afghanistan.
huffmanxd
I’m a medical dispatcher and it’s taught to us for 911 calls
DoYouWannaKnowMySecretIdentity
Yeah, they taught it to me in EMT training.
SciFiFantasyFan
Grey's anatomy. That's where I heard it first.
Iloveanonymityandilovebeingnoticed
I first heard it on ER.
Sherlock89
Good to hear Grey's got something right. It's a common medical saying.
MADchemEE
I thought it was X-files. There's one episode where Mulder gets some disease or something, and the only reason he didn't die was cold temps?