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junkgoof
People voted for him because he was evil. “You don’t understand, I got this tax break.” They didn’t get a tax break, they got to be mean to people.
TyrCarter
If I was american I'd vote for an independent candidate before I'd vote for Harris or Trump. Both horrible, trump worse
smashpro1
We all saw January 6th. That should have been the end of the fucking discussion.
509tigerfish
if you want to take responsibility for voting for him - FIX IT - the way Luigi would
mafiacarstarter
mormonbatman
Never synergy of America's proclivity for racism and sexism.
IdoWalk
Pope Francis said the same. Never forget
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
KingKrabvoldIV
Share the same sentiment with people who couldn’t vote for her either way. Sitting out 2024? Fuck you too.
stayingalive4life
That’s like saying taking a big gulp of the septic tank concoction is better than drinking some milk that’s 2 days past its sell by date.
doctorId
To he fair we didn't really learn of the pedophilia until later, so they were just voting for a reality TV rapist
TemporarilyEmbarrassedThousandaire
"But her voice was so annoying!" https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1djZnNGlqam80bGxnenBzZ2I4c2pld2dpcGVtZXV6ZnY2czF3MHQyNiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/qE9HzC2xwolRS/200w.webp
UserNamesArentEasy
She wouldn't be in the new everyday like the orange shit stain so you wouldn't have to listen to her....... Unless Fox News was going to run daily news spots on her so stop watching it.
NeverEnoughFoxes
"Then put your head back down in the sand!"
NeoAcario
She laughed too much. So clearly it was her laugh that was annoying!
Vengeraxe
This. After years of watching him tear the world apart, my Maga mother finally came down to this. This exact excuse for voting for Trump. Fucking old people.....
Mercenarity
fence-sitting trump voters then: "i'm doing this for cheap gas and groceries."
fence-sitting trump voters now: your choice of *crickets* to stuff they'd be screaming in your ear about under obama, or them faithfully waiting on those gas and groceries and celebrating every minor decrease in high prices like "see, it's working!" just admit you're wrong.
or0b0ur0s
That's the essence of xenophobia. "The absolute worst & lowest of US is better than the absolute best of THEM." Without evidence or substantiation, not that it really matters.
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mafiacarstarter
You just told everyone that you don't understand politics.
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mafiacarstarter
We already know that you don't understand. You don't have to keep telling us.
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mafiacarstarter
The point is that you don't understand, or choose to pretend that you don't understand, but you want to pound your talking points anyway.
I've seen enough of your comments around here to know that you are nowhere near as left leaning as even the establishment Democrats, so this is all just posturing and bootlicking on your part.
Now is the time for your standard move of deleting your comments and harassing someone else.
Syxcfaq
Way too many black and brown people voted for Trump. In fact, he wouldn't have gotten elected without their support.
awkungen42
I definitely wouldn't put shit on black people considering the percentages they vote for Dems. Literally the highest Dem voters out there. Mexicans however can reap what they sow they vote R at a much higher rate than D.
PosthumousExile
Its the good jew scenario. The Mexicans I talked to are saying that trump will get rid of the gangs and undocumented that make Mexicans look bad. And they are good Mexicans because they did everything the "right way".
The rest is the deeply religious people who believe he was the more religious candidate and therefore more pure. Prosperity gospel. And good old fashioned misogyny.
KPodol
The fact that people still spread this racist propaganda despite the fact that white people got him elected is frightening, i swear white american always have to blame minorities for everything.
Arbitrarynamehere
White liberals will do literally anything to shift accountability away from themselves.
Ryyyyyyyan
I don't think people were saying this, not in any significant amounts. The people who voted for Trump largely actively supported him. Some may be changing their mind now and pretending they did it for other reasons, but I remember both times he was elected and it was pretty active support. The Lesser Evil voters mostly went for Harris.
meme2zombie
I can't speak for amounts but I encountered a few who've said it online at least, dunno if they were honestly that fooled or were just self-justifying though.
Arbitrarynamehere
Yeah people are just making shit up to reassure themselves this late in the game
akafluffy
No, the less evil voters were parading down the streets saying shame shame Kamala Harris like Trump wasn't expressly worse on everything they complained about her for.
Ryyyyyyyan
That's just not something that happened. We're talking about people that were specifically using the Lesser of Two Evils argument when deciding who to vote for. Those people vote for Harris by a wide margin. There were people that were vocally critical of Harris, but they still largely voted for her or didn't vote and they weren't using the Lesser of Two Evils argument.
akafluffy
I literally saw it happen, so you can shut the fuck up with this gaslighty bullshit.
Ryyyyyyyan
I genuinely don't think you understand what we're talking about. If you can show me any examples at all we might be able to clear up the confusion.
akafluffy
There was a literal parade with people yelling shame shame Kamala Harris near where I live, no mention of shame Trump, no both sides, straight up Kamala isn't doing exactly what we want, so we're flying Trump flags.
velcrosnake
Or pronouns, that was the reason a guy in my office gave for voting for Trump. And because he says he thinks Trump lies LESS than other politicians.
LgpandBandit
You missed Amen.
todayok
This is the quiet part out loud.
Palestinian-Americans demanded people boycott voting because Kamala Harris and Trump were in their words exactly the same. Bitch, please, Palestinian-Americans are almost entirely Muslim and for whatever you think of other religions Muslims rank near or at the bottom for women's rights, respect, anything, and ain't great for children either (got doubts, read their Quran).
In other news, those same boycotting Palestinian-Americans sure are quiet these days.
Sennox
Now even the Last of you should be able to See how Most of the Rest of the world Sees " 'Murica ". You have too many fucking morons!
Subsound
LoL that you would call other people morons after posting a gem like that.
RooGryphon
We need them to fuck off and face accountability. If they want to face it kicking and screaming... fine... I know one very quick way to shut up a nazi supporter...
Eyeetsass
Joe Biden was a war criminal in front of Gen Z. Joe Biden didn’t call genocide genocide, or denounce it. He was president during the majority of killing, and destruction in Palestine. Joe Biden’s failure is why Trump was elected. Because Israel runs these United States. Keep shitting on your peers though. Learn nothing. Let the culprits escape blame, or consequence. Some real cult logic.
MasterBountakun
The problem is, you're not wrong but not addressing what the post directly says. Joe Biden was a war criminal, I'd say every modern US president is as well. He was also far too attached to supporting an ethno state.
The Democratic party has had an issue of putting forward dogshit candidates, appealing to people who hate them and not supporting popular policy. Still, saying the literal fascist would be better was still a stupid argument people made and still make.
Eyeetsass
They didn’t say he was better. Those who abstained couldn’t decide. The people of color who voted for Trump are more to blame than those who abstained. Yes, every American president I have witnessed has been a war criminal since Reagan. We’re talking specifically about why Trump got a second term. It’s because established democrats are owned by AIPAC, and young people watching Joe Biden truly couldn’t see the lesser evil.
MasterBountakun
The post is literally about Trump being the lesser of two evils.
Also, the post isn't attacking people who abstained it is literally about the argument that the fascist was the lesser of two evils. Also, them being people of color isn't the issue, anyone who voted for fascism is the problem regardless of background.
Even the fact you need to divide us about young or race isn't helping. The Democratic Party is part of the problem but so is people thinking fascism wasn't the worst option.
Jarjarthejedi
"Let the culprits escape blame or consequence" like, say, arguing that people who voted for "literal nazis or not, I don't care" aren't to blame for nazis taking power? Sad that you can't see that you're trying to do exactly what you accuse others other. Projection is a helluva drug...
ElusiveThing
Did something make you or the people you mentioned think the Mango would be better for the Palestinians?
Eyeetsass
I voted responsibly. I’m explaining reality. I’ve voted against Trump 3 times. I’m explaining that your anger at the indecision of your peers is misplaced. The president we elected in Trump’s place dropped the ball, and failed the nation. All that ire everyone feels belongs at the feet of Joe Biden, and the DNC. If we don’t clean our own house nothing will ever change. Downvote me all day. I’ll never shut up about it.
ElusiveThing
I only downvote personal insults or bad faith lies, so not applicable here.
But if Biden dropped the ball, what was going on in 2017-2021? Biden wasn't even the candidate the Dems had in 2022, while the Reps ran with someone with a proven track record, someone who very openly promised he'd be even worse.
You also didn't answer the question.
Eyeetsass
Reality formed my opinion. Being an adult observer of reality. Screaming at the TV for fucking finger guns to isolate Israel the same as Russia. Because that’s who we’re taught we are all our lives. We all watched that crumble when our tax dollar continued to murder innocents unchecked. So, it’s easy for me to imagine young people new to the horrors of the world didn’t know who to vote for, and dropped out altogether.
Sebastopol140
"But SHe WASN't haRD enOUgH On ISRaEL"... so they voted (or helped by not voting for her) for this asshole who PROMISED to be even worse.
whereismymind86
she wasn't, and that was fucking stupid, and she should be ashamed of herself. Don't excuse that shit. But all the same, it doesn't make dipshit donnie the better choice.
homoerection
A friend tried to say that things would be the same under Kamala and I about ended a relationship.
FanBladeFleshlight
I honestly hate the "but Israel" people just as much as MAGAts
Like, how are they so fucking stupid as to think that the leader of the US is gonna somehow determine what atrocities a country on the other side of the fucking planet is gonna commit?!
LostCaterpillar
Would you vote for a candidate who said "Hitler did nothing wrong."? Hitler is long dead and even if he wasn't it's not like the US president is gonna somehow determine what atrocities a country on the other side of the fucking planet is gonna commit.
Of course unlike the Hitler thing Biden *was* actively provided weapons to Israel to commit genocide, even when doing so went against Congress, and Harris indicated she would do so as well.
zHurk777
tRump Said She Was Going To Attack Iran !!! - magas.
MadamPuddifoot
I know A TRANS PERSON who didn't vote cuz "she's no better than him". A TRANS PERSON IN FL.
Sebastopol140
zuken
Has an argument last year with someone who wanted us to be more understanding of MAGA voters because "they were victims of propaganda and misinformation" and also wanted us to be harder on the people who "vote blue instead of holding them dems accountable for lack of progress by not voting"
That latter part would make a lot of sense in a lower stakes election, but not when project 2025 was on the horizon, and the combination of be gentle with the MAGA voters and harsher on the Harris voters?
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
And they STILL think they get to occupy the moral high ground for their decision. It's infuriating.
whereismymind86
I'll never apologize for demanding my candidate cross the low bar of saying she won't actively support a genocide. What the fuck is wrong with you people? (i did still vote for her mind you...but it was not wrong to call her out for that)
DarthVaderDidNothingWrong
No one has an issue with you demanding that.
KingKrabvoldIV
And look what the demand has gotten Palestine. Fuck all.
thisisnotfineffs
There is no criticism for demanding the cross a bar that really is on the damn ground it's so low, no one's talking about you here
meme2zombie
Yeah then we're not talking about you, we're talking about the ones who didn't vote. Or worse convinced multiple other people to not vote.
dontrike
All the while the other choice you had was worse on that genocide, and another as well, and 200% worse on every other fucking topic.
Your moral high ground is the equivalent of someone digging their own grave.
wadatahmydamie
Sebastopol140
Perfect illustration.
ToSisPoS
They sidle into these topics and try and excuse themselves by blaming the DNC as well.
meme2zombie
"they didn't give me a better candidate so it's their fault"
ToSisPoS
Yes, that’s the idiot rhetoric I’ve heard.
You had two choices:
1. fascist rapist proven to be a kleptocratic senile narcissist
2. Not 1.
paulwall117350
I, as a part of an official action planned by the CPUSA, marched and knocked on doors for Harris. I did that, but it is also possible for me to say that liberals are complicit in perpetuating the suffering and exploitation of the world because they still fully support colonialism and capitalist imperialism, just as long as the "right" people are in charge, and that accepting concessions from liberals in order to manufacture consent for atrocity is not helping. The two are not mutually exclusive.
dontrike
"As a gay black man"
Eyeetsass
These kids don’t want reality explained to them. They want their feelings validated.
akafluffy
They are when you let the guy who's bombing other countries for Israel when Kamala was talking about cutting down arms for them. The folks who use that as an excuse to not vote, or vote for Agolf Shitler because they're "the same" really need to pull their heads out of their poopchutes.
koopaya
It's like the bots aren't even trying anymore. It's sad. I miss the days of 2015 when they earned their rubles. Now the bots can't even go home and brag to mom
FanBladeFleshlight
Ah yes, the colonialism and capitalism that is currently trying to take control of foreign nations like Greenland, Venezuela, and Canada, all while fucking over the common person in order to provide tax breaks for the wealthy and to enrich those in power...
Oh wait, that's the Republicans today who're doing that. Dumbass.
shehdbeuebw738373
Shut the fuck up you dumb cunt.
paulwall117350
"I voted for her and encouraged others to vote for her through direct action but still intellectually understand that reform is impossible and revolution is inevitable" - how is that a dumb take?
Eyeetsass
It’s not. At all.
shehdbeuebw738373
Because it's not true. Dumbshits will complain into their $1000 phones while making $20/hr and do nothing. We know this.
We also know said dumbfucks would be terrible at running anything.
That doesn't mean their source of discontent is false. But the fact that governments suck and life isn't fair is not new at all.
And brining it up during an election cycle between more of the same and Nazi Germany 2.0 helps absolutely no one
ToSisPoS
Exactly it’s disingenuous “both sides” rhetoric to discourage people from voting.
Eyeetsass
Bringing up the truth helps everyone. Have you considered perhaps you are the dumb fuck?
Now go bury your head in the sand, and pretend reality is happening. Everyone is dumb fuck, but you. Wild take from a person who uses the full character count to throw a fit that says nothing. I think you’re the dumb fuck.
TheMechanick
shut the fuck up you dumb cunt
awkungen42
Honestly, I blame half of this on the DNC for giving us nothing but shit tier candidates. But they have to appease old liberals while anyone progressive/young can go fuck themselves I guess
wadatahmydamie
I blame all of this on the voters - not just
MAGA voters, but the ones who stayed home.
People like you aren't especially helpful either, repeating the same narrative over and over. "Oh no, we only got a couple hundred billion in student debt relief, executive orders protecting trans rights, expanded access to healthcare, the end of a war, and a million manufacturing jobs returned to America, all in the face of a combative Congress and SCOTUS. They just weren't pure enough for me!"
ToSisPoS
90 million idiots didn’t vote in the last election and they handed the world to Trump.
In other countries, the less perfect candidate is getting voted for instead of the fascist candidate.
Do I need to draw you a fucking diagram?
FanBladeFleshlight
They BOTH put up bad choices. It's been very rare in my 40 years to see a good choice. It is NOT the fault of the DNC that so many stupid cunts stayed home with false pretenses of "oh Israel" or some shit to hide that they're misogynist, racist, feckless pieces of shit.
Hiding behind single issues makes any voter look like a dumb fuck.
LostCaterpillar
authorcalebchapman
Good job. Your purity saved Palestine.
akafluffy
Have you considered that Kamala was not a shit tier candidate, you're just a sexist piece of shit?
awkungen42
I was more talking about Hilary, but Kamala, while a much better choice, had her own issues and probably should have at least had to earn the nominee. Don't worry, never taking blame for things that happened doesn't mean that they didn't happen. It also makes you closer to a Republican than you'd think.
awkungen42
I'm not, but you can use criticism to levy bullshit claims at people, because you're a weak bitch yourself.
LostCaterpillar
Have you considered that anyone who supports genocide is an evil piece of shit no matter what their gender?
wadatahmydamie
You supported genocide.
akafluffy
Then you obviously haven't looked at what Trump said/is currently fucking doing you idiotic sheeple.
LostCaterpillar
Have you considered that both parties fielding candidates who support genocide might be part of the problem?
No, really, have you considered it?
Even if you personally don't care about genocide it's clearly a bad strategic position for your team to also put up a pro genocide candidate given how strongly other people do care.