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Jan 12, 2023 7:04 PM

MythIncarnate

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Still not entirely clear on what the hell my doc is expecting to find, or not find, or observe the change in. It's got me a bit anxious. Really feels like she's been intentionally vauge with everything she has told me (mostly half-sentences involving the word "liver" and "kidneys").
I could press the issue and demand a clear explanation but honestly that sounds at least twice as stressful as having my belly lubed up an prodded for a few minutes. I dunno, just stressing about what it might be. I trust my doctor,; she's not the type to give news - good or bad - unless she's certain, so I'm stuck thinking between "She'll tell me when she's certain it's either something or nothing." and "I have a literal right to know."
Glad I live somewhere civilized where diagnostics like this aren't gonna set me back a small fortune in deductibles etc. at least.
At least I can rule out pregnancy. Probably. That'd be one hell of a miracle otherwise.
Edit: Appointment came and went, made it in one piece and surprisingly on time despite inclement weather and my phone giving bad directions. I'll know the results in... Well, sometime after my doc gets them in a week. Until then... Thanks for all the comments and encouragement and personal experiences. Made me feel a little less alone in the whole thing. I'll post a followup as soon as I know anything. Until then... Stay safe. I'm gonna go pass out for a few hours now.

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There is so many reasons. We do it a lot at my work because we prescribe meds that could maybe damage the liver and we want to be careful.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Always ask questions or say you don't understand. When in doubt tell your nurse, our job is advocating for you. We will help you learn y

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Why did you go in the first place? What was your original complaint? It's totally reasonable to ask what they're ruling out. That said,

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

some doctors don't tell you unless you ask directly because too many people Google then panic. So there's that. A good doc is direct IMO.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You could ask at the ultrasound appt. There is probably info in the scan order. Act like you already kind of know but don't understand.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

You deserve to know what may or may not be happening to you. By all means, temper your expectations and she may be shielding you from panic.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Don't settle for excuses like 'you may not understand the answer.' They are trained specifically to help their patient understand.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Being an American living in America on my company's shitty insurance, I would 100% demand why they are scheduling an ultrasound.

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I 100% understand that.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Retired internist here. She probably said some medical mumbo jumbo that she felt was a sufficient explanation. Don’t get it? ASK!

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Yup, this ^ it can be hard to gauge what patients understand when they just quietly go through the appointment. Ask questions!

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I just had one - outcome: fatty liver.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Same reason I had to have one.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

What's the solution in your case, if you don't mind? I'm still waiting for a 2nd round of tests before seeing my gastroenterologist.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For me, I essentially cut out all alcohol consumption. Liked to drink a lot, but now maybe 2 beers a month. Next step is lose more weight.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

They absolutely NEED to tell you. Push. Push. And push some more.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Cancer isnt the worst, my doc ordered a MRI for my migraines but it was a brain tumor, removing it helped the pain but I do stillhave cancer

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My dad was scheduled for surgery to remove/identify a stomach mass last week. Just found out they didn't even run a biopsy on the samp. WTF

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

As an American, I'm not scheduling any procedures until I know exactly why the doc wants it. Also, my anxiety would be through the roof

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Little late but... googled for reasons why the ultrasound was ordered. Sharing for awareness

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I had an ultrasound to check for a stone, urologist said later that test is bad for identify stones. Did find a cyst tho.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

so now i have to get a ct scan.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You don’t have to demand anything, you can just say “I’m sorry, I’m not understanding, what is this test looking for?” 1/2

3 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Most docs want you to be informed and understand what’s going on and what your risks are. 2/2

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

You should ask her, but ultrasound is usually used to look for stones in the kidneys or gallbladder since she mentioned kidneys and liver.

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Reminds me when I was in the ER for low platelets a d the resident comes in. "You have a platelet count of 0! Now, a few things can cause...

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

This. One of them is lupus. I laugh, it's never lupus. He's like, haha? (too young?) it's not. It could be leukemia! So I'm like uhhhh?

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And he says "but we tested for that and it's not!" and then says "Or AIDS can cause this!" and I kinda freak out and he's like "oh but we

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Tested for that too and it's not! " So I'm all," Doc, you REALLY gotta lead with the "not", I have no platelets or red cells and my heart

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Rate just went to 215.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She is being considerate. She thinks you may have cancer, but she doesn't want to scare you unless she is 100% certain.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Several types of cancer do run in my family, along with a clotting disorder and an otherwise-rare thyroid condition. Wheeeeee possibilities.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As someone with a benign cyst on my pancreas and benign cholesterol balls in my gall bladder, I hope your ultrasounds come out just as well.

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

"turns out it was nothing. That'll be $60k"

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thankfully not a risk for my Canadian ass.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That is fortunate. Glad you have a Canadian ass

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's temperamental and fat, but I really am grateful for it. xD

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

@OP my doctor did this to me. It was more about ruling out unlikely, but possible heath issues, than trying to find something specific.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'd had that. I'd rather a doctor tell me what they suspect might be wrong and want to check to be sure it is or is not that.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

looking more than once is better than scheduling a biopsy after the first ultrasound... so you have that going for you, which is nice.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Iif it comes to a biopsy then I'll be straight up demanding a full explanation. But until then... Ultrasounds aren't that invasive.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And also, for the love of all that is, DO NOT GO ON WEBMD. Don’t do it, every time the result is the same “you are already dead.” Just don’t

3 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

WebMD, every time: "OMAE WA MOU SHINDEIRU"

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

NANI?!

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

WebMD? You mean Enslaved Hypochondria? lol

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The powerhouse of the cell? Wait... no...

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This is bizarre. My doctor covers everything with me, goes in depth on results if I want, potential risks, etc. Why wouldn't they tell you?

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Rough guess? Prevent the patient from panicking until they get the test to know for certain.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Doc thinks OP is going to stress more if they know what the doc wants checked. Could be right, I guess she knows OP better than we do.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I'm not encouraging this kind of behaviour btw. Unless there's compelling reasons to do otherwise, full disclosure is the better practice.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Obviously OP has every right to know, and doc absolutely shouldn't whithhold if asked directly.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Generally I urge people to be their own health advocate. ask doctors why. Be involved in your own health.

3 years ago | Likes 270 Dislikes 2

Be informed but the average person makes terrible medical decision based on what they think is “research”

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I am speaking for people to talk with their doctors, have a dialogue. Not just nodding along.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

“So (checking in phone) is it okay I take this new Rx with a black box warning about (my condition)?” “Oops”

3 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Why are you taking this medication? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What body part was scanned in the MRI? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ What kind of doctor is he? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

^this

3 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 1

You need to take charge of your own health to be sure, but that includes trusting the professional. I see no fault with OPs mindset.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That said, having faith in public institutions.. well it’s easy enough for me, but it wouldn’t be if I was American.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

My PCP scheduled me for a blood test at the cancer center, I was climbing the walls for days. Turns out, it was because they had the closest

3 years ago | Likes 83 Dislikes 0

hematology lab.... and I had anemia. Not great, but also not cancer. Anyway, OP, it's likely something minor.

3 years ago | Likes 77 Dislikes 0

Yeah, and oncologists don’t only treat cancer, because many are dual certified in hematology, which terrifies patients when they get…

3 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 1

OMG THIS HAPPENED TO ME!

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

…sent to X Oncology or Y Cancer Associates for their hematology appointment for anemia or a clotting disorder.

3 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

That happened to me. Man, I was concerned…

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Well, I was definitely not aware at the time, lol

3 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

The doc could say "but not for cancer lol!" . Cripes.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Not sure if that is better or worse than hearing a loud bang and "Ooops!" before a surgery.

3 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Never hesitate to demand information about why a test or procedure is ordered, that’s part of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Informed_consent

3 years ago | Likes 442 Dislikes 5

Demanding the information would be of no benefit to op. Just think about what benefit there is of knowing that the doctor wants to eliminate

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

the possibility of a beginning tumor. OP would possibly loose sleep and be filled with anxiety over the weekend for this. To no benefit.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

They could also lose sleep over the unknown, and worry for no reason.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Sure, they could.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And unfortunately, my experience is that when a patient doesn’t have to worry about cost, *some* doctors don’t always feel obligated…

3 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 2

…to justify the medical necessity of a test to the patient. In which case, the patient should feel free to ask.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

(We see the same thing with doctors in the US when patients have good insurance, don’t read that as an indictment of single payer, it’s not)

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

It's going to depend on the doctor and what group they're part of. A relative was always pressured to get through patients fast.

3 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh absolutely, some places really hammer patients through. And some also pressure doctors to err on the side of ordering extra tests when…

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

My desire to be informed is at odds with the nearly pathological need to not talk to anyone face to face due to social anxiety.

3 years ago | Likes 129 Dislikes 8

I suffer the same, but always feel better if I know the exacts. If you're that anxious, please do yourself a favor and find out.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I write a list of the things I want to talk about before my appointment and then just hand it to my doctor. It helps for when my panic brain

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

forgets everything I wanted to talk about. And it stops the doctor from spending the whole appt on just 1 item, they know there's more.

3 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I love that our hospital has MyChart, as soon as any results are in you get a notification and can go read them.

3 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You cannot assume you actually even need the test. Don't treat your doctor any different than your mechanic. Both can drive up their profits

3 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

by taking advantage of people that don't know better and won't ask questions.

3 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Oh same. Does your doctor have an email/online portal option for messaging?

3 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 1

yeah my doctor thought i was quiet till they rolled out the patient doctor messaging app now he thinks im a hypochondriac ?

3 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

I communicate with my doctor almost exclusively through their online portal thingie between appointments.

3 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

That doesn’t bother me nearly as much

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Sadly not. It's all phone or in person, despite the fact they asked for an email address when I first got set up with them.

3 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 1

Pin a note to your shirt. Then the doctor asks about the note. And then you hand the note over. Doing this nearly saved my life.

3 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0