Jul 19, 2021 2:21 AM
SisterMidnight
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I thought Reagan was disgusting, but the current GQP make him look really good.
current_events
moscowmitch
the_more_you_know
social_security
republicans
grandestgrandeur
"Whats going on with the debt that you GOP asshats SUDDENLY give a shit about now that a Dem is in charge?" Bunch of hypocritical shites.
cenataur
"Entitlement"... Wow.
LordNergal
It's amazing how the Republicans have twisted terms like "welfare" and "entitlement" to be purely negative concepts.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
People don't seem to understand the definition of entitlement in this context. It is something to which a person has a right. (1/2)
Calling them "entitlements" means these programs are NOT discretionary. Congress legally shouldn't change them. But GOP tried to defund them
Cortezdelanoche
NinjaCongo
What conservative voters fail to understand is that social security and other social government measures aren't generous handouts given 1
out of goodwill. They're the only thing standing between a repressive state and full out revolution. 2
walnutbreath
Not having an entire propaganda ecosystem made a difference. But he laid the groundwork for it by repealing the Fairness Doctrine.
killbot9566
Oh god is the talking ball sack talking again?
Azawarau
He was extremely racist and McConnel is far to the right of him. Should say enough
highfiveskittens
When Reagan is the worst it makes you wonder how bad the current republicans are
BobTheSwede
Entitlement programs. Entitled because you pay taxes
EveryGuyonImgur
Social security and Medicare are actually entitlement programs, because it’s benefits are limited to those who meet the eligibilitiy
the eligibility requirements. That’s what an entitlement program is.
muerteati
Entitlement: noun; the fact of having a right to something. FFS. THESE ARE ENTITLEMENTS! DAMN RIGHT WE PAID INTO AND HAVE A RIGHT TO!
MrWizzzard
Didn't republicans 'borrow' from social security multiple times over the years? Or am I misremembering?
sambaah05
No. https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
Misremembering. Social Security buys bonds from Congress, which accrue interest. That's how it has trillions in accrued funds.
Sofakingwetoded
I'd support a tax to fund punching this waste of life in the face.
ImFunnierThanYallGiveMeCreditFor
They literally are entitlement programs. You paid into them and you are entitled to get paid. The word has been purposely demonized
darkwing42101
Thank you. Don't know how people have been so brainwashed to flat out abandon the Dictionary because the Right Wing played word games.
OddlyPacific
This asshole would call unemployment insurance a handout. It's impossible to collect more than is deposited.
Insomnia297
No republican has any basis to pretend to be concerned about the deficit anymore. Not after Trump.
Shaodyn
George W. Bush was allowed to turn a $5 billion surplus into a $10 billion deficit, and Republicans didn't bat an eye. They don't care
about the deficit, they just pretend to so they can make Democrats look bad.
whatbuttondoipush
Fuck em both
SirBinky
UK person here. I see and hear what Mitch McConnell says but I don't understand his aims. Surely a strong healthy educated population would
Make America stronger.
GoGoGadgetBinoculars
he's a shitstain in a human costume
TI99Kitty
But a strong healthy EDUCATED population wouldn't vote for the Trumplican party.
tiptoeingthru
And that is the point.
His long-term aims are to effectively make the U.S. a dictatorship ruled by Republicans. They've been at this since before I was born.
MatthewBecker
Congress uses the ss trust to fund their pork projects
Miller16of16
I a sense that's 100% true. SS Admin is required by law to loan surplus $ to the Fed govt. The problem comes when Republicans don't want to>
pay it back. Fed Govt is deep in the red, borrowing just to pay the interest down, let alone the principle.
That's actually an old lie made up by the Republicans to enrage the elderly at Democrats. It irks me to see it still around.
100% false. It's really sad they had to create this page: https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
SmokyDoggg
"We can't afford Healthcare for you. We can't afford to fund your retirement" says the guy whose Healthcare and Retirement are tax-funded...
kyzentun
It's been 40 years since Reagan. Have any laws changed that would allow them to rob social security for other things?
SpicyPeanuts27
Idk but It took them this long to realize trickle down doesn't
They knew back then it didn't. That was just how they sold it to the non-rich members of their base.
Nope. But Republicans have spent decades convincing the American public that Congress is robbing Social Security as part of their long 1/
term strategy of making the elderly angry at Democrats. I remember people having to dispute those claims when I was only five years old, 2/
and that was back in the 1980s. Misinformation campaigns can cause long-term harm. 3/3
kluang
What do you expect? He's the Senator from Innsmouth
lietotheelderly
If you think Reagan looks good take a long fucking walk. That dude was OG Trump. Fuck Reagan.
CouchCarrot
People who say this didn't live through Carter's term.
thickythickydumdum
Scrolled until I could find and upvote whoever first pointed this out. So much of the shit we are in today can be linked/traced to Reagan.
Agreed. It's fucking terrible that people like him and Nixon look moderate "humane" by comparison to today's dictator wannabes. Get 'em out!
darkhalfbreed
No he was a Puppet, Trump is an asshole that has a human shaped tumor attached that makes the delicious excrement republicans love
dogwithahumanface
Reagan was an asshole. What people don't realize is politics have shifted so far to the right that Reagan would be to the left of Dems now.
Evi1Gav
This is absolutely the important point. The USA has no left wing. It has right wing and fascists.
He had a all out war to end the middle class. His reagannomics has put everyone so far behind inflation.
He strikes me as being purely a damage control person. Everything he said and did reminds me of every damage control professional I've met.
Exyr
Except that they keep "borrowing" from social security.
No, they don't. I wish people would take the time to learn how this stuff works before posting comments.
That is not correct. https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
They don't. Social Security buys bonds from Congress, and those bonds accrue interest. When Social Security has to cash them in, Congress 1/
is required to pay full value at the time the bond is cashed in, which is the original amount plus interest. The real problem is that the 2/
working-age people are too few for the current expenses of the program, which means it will likely have to cash in its bonds over the next 3
few decades. Which is a serious problem, and we absolutely should be solving it now. 4/4
They'll solve it. They have roughly 19 years to fix it.
TheThingsTheyCarried
Entitlement in this case means you have a legal right to it, not that you feel entitled to it.
Noughmad
Even then, you should feel entitled to it.
http://webhome.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/entitlement_program.phtml
TheMightyMoto
Reagan did a bunch of terrible shit still. Though he would be a rino by today's gop standards.
Both parties have shift so far right that he'd be a Democrat now. All Dem presidents since Reagan have continued his policies and revere him
HonestCommentFarmer
Revere? Not really. Overly emphasize the good he did, perhaps. But compared to the Cult of Reagan the Repubs had a decade ago? No.
Revere does not mean worship. Revere = feel deep respect or admiration for. So yes, revere is the correct word.
That is an understatement. Reagan's policies were the catalyst needed for "citizen's united" to eventually happen. The balance of
power between corporations power of influence VS actual US citizens was never the same after Reagan. He is one of the main reasons voters
today have such limited power. So FREAKING stupid that Reagan is praised and not condemned by so many.
allthenamesaregone
Every dollar that goes to social security gets spent and contributes to GDP over and over and over.
Onda6g
As does "military spending" in places like Israel, Germany, and South Korea. It's a loop
TakeMeToFrontPageAndBackFiveTimesADay
Except that comes out the same place as funding for schools, transport, infrastructure. Spend less on that, you get more funding for schools
gtollie
Too bad we didn’t elect Gore in 2000, he would have put it in a lockbox
Bonsaipanda
That's the real issue isn't it - they don't want that money going into the economy, they want it going into their own pockets.
SkySpy404
250:1 vs 2:1 pay in vs pay out at inception to now
HansVerhaegen
Exactly. What does anyone think the people getting soc sec are gonna do with it? Put it in their Cayman accounts? Buyback stocks?!
grandestgrandeur
"Whats going on with the debt that you GOP asshats SUDDENLY give a shit about now that a Dem is in charge?" Bunch of hypocritical shites.
cenataur
"Entitlement"... Wow.
LordNergal
It's amazing how the Republicans have twisted terms like "welfare" and "entitlement" to be purely negative concepts.
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
People don't seem to understand the definition of entitlement in this context. It is something to which a person has a right. (1/2)
TheArrestingAbhorrentArrantAbominableAlliterator
Calling them "entitlements" means these programs are NOT discretionary. Congress legally shouldn't change them. But GOP tried to defund them
Cortezdelanoche
NinjaCongo
What conservative voters fail to understand is that social security and other social government measures aren't generous handouts given 1
NinjaCongo
out of goodwill. They're the only thing standing between a repressive state and full out revolution. 2
walnutbreath
Not having an entire propaganda ecosystem made a difference. But he laid the groundwork for it by repealing the Fairness Doctrine.
killbot9566
Oh god is the talking ball sack talking again?
Azawarau
He was extremely racist and McConnel is far to the right of him. Should say enough
highfiveskittens
When Reagan is the worst it makes you wonder how bad the current republicans are
BobTheSwede
Entitlement programs. Entitled because you pay taxes
EveryGuyonImgur
Social security and Medicare are actually entitlement programs, because it’s benefits are limited to those who meet the eligibilitiy
EveryGuyonImgur
the eligibility requirements. That’s what an entitlement program is.
muerteati
Entitlement: noun; the fact of having a right to something. FFS. THESE ARE ENTITLEMENTS! DAMN RIGHT WE PAID INTO AND HAVE A RIGHT TO!
MrWizzzard
Didn't republicans 'borrow' from social security multiple times over the years? Or am I misremembering?
sambaah05
No. https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
LordNergal
Misremembering. Social Security buys bonds from Congress, which accrue interest. That's how it has trillions in accrued funds.
Sofakingwetoded
I'd support a tax to fund punching this waste of life in the face.
ImFunnierThanYallGiveMeCreditFor
They literally are entitlement programs. You paid into them and you are entitled to get paid. The word has been purposely demonized
darkwing42101
Thank you. Don't know how people have been so brainwashed to flat out abandon the Dictionary because the Right Wing played word games.
OddlyPacific
This asshole would call unemployment insurance a handout. It's impossible to collect more than is deposited.
Insomnia297
No republican has any basis to pretend to be concerned about the deficit anymore. Not after Trump.
Shaodyn
George W. Bush was allowed to turn a $5 billion surplus into a $10 billion deficit, and Republicans didn't bat an eye. They don't care
Shaodyn
about the deficit, they just pretend to so they can make Democrats look bad.
whatbuttondoipush
Fuck em both
SirBinky
UK person here. I see and hear what Mitch McConnell says but I don't understand his aims. Surely a strong healthy educated population would
SirBinky
Make America stronger.
GoGoGadgetBinoculars
he's a shitstain in a human costume
TI99Kitty
But a strong healthy EDUCATED population wouldn't vote for the Trumplican party.
tiptoeingthru
And that is the point.
LordNergal
His long-term aims are to effectively make the U.S. a dictatorship ruled by Republicans. They've been at this since before I was born.
MatthewBecker
Congress uses the ss trust to fund their pork projects
Miller16of16
I a sense that's 100% true. SS Admin is required by law to loan surplus $ to the Fed govt. The problem comes when Republicans don't want to>
Miller16of16
pay it back. Fed Govt is deep in the red, borrowing just to pay the interest down, let alone the principle.
LordNergal
That's actually an old lie made up by the Republicans to enrage the elderly at Democrats. It irks me to see it still around.
sambaah05
100% false. It's really sad they had to create this page: https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
SmokyDoggg
"We can't afford Healthcare for you. We can't afford to fund your retirement" says the guy whose Healthcare and Retirement are tax-funded...
kyzentun
It's been 40 years since Reagan. Have any laws changed that would allow them to rob social security for other things?
SpicyPeanuts27
Idk but It took them this long to realize trickle down doesn't
TI99Kitty
They knew back then it didn't. That was just how they sold it to the non-rich members of their base.
LordNergal
Nope. But Republicans have spent decades convincing the American public that Congress is robbing Social Security as part of their long 1/
LordNergal
term strategy of making the elderly angry at Democrats. I remember people having to dispute those claims when I was only five years old, 2/
LordNergal
and that was back in the 1980s. Misinformation campaigns can cause long-term harm. 3/3
kluang
What do you expect? He's the Senator from Innsmouth
lietotheelderly
If you think Reagan looks good take a long fucking walk. That dude was OG Trump. Fuck Reagan.
CouchCarrot
People who say this didn't live through Carter's term.
thickythickydumdum
Scrolled until I could find and upvote whoever first pointed this out. So much of the shit we are in today can be linked/traced to Reagan.
grandestgrandeur
Agreed. It's fucking terrible that people like him and Nixon look moderate "humane" by comparison to today's dictator wannabes. Get 'em out!
darkhalfbreed
No he was a Puppet, Trump is an asshole that has a human shaped tumor attached that makes the delicious excrement republicans love
dogwithahumanface
Reagan was an asshole. What people don't realize is politics have shifted so far to the right that Reagan would be to the left of Dems now.
Evi1Gav
This is absolutely the important point. The USA has no left wing. It has right wing and fascists.
SpicyPeanuts27
He had a all out war to end the middle class. His reagannomics has put everyone so far behind inflation.
LordNergal
He strikes me as being purely a damage control person. Everything he said and did reminds me of every damage control professional I've met.
Exyr
Except that they keep "borrowing" from social security.
CouchCarrot
No, they don't. I wish people would take the time to learn how this stuff works before posting comments.
sambaah05
That is not correct. https://www.ssa.gov/history/InternetMyths2.html
LordNergal
They don't. Social Security buys bonds from Congress, and those bonds accrue interest. When Social Security has to cash them in, Congress 1/
LordNergal
is required to pay full value at the time the bond is cashed in, which is the original amount plus interest. The real problem is that the 2/
LordNergal
working-age people are too few for the current expenses of the program, which means it will likely have to cash in its bonds over the next 3
LordNergal
few decades. Which is a serious problem, and we absolutely should be solving it now. 4/4
CouchCarrot
They'll solve it. They have roughly 19 years to fix it.
TheThingsTheyCarried
Entitlement in this case means you have a legal right to it, not that you feel entitled to it.
Noughmad
Even then, you should feel entitled to it.
TheThingsTheyCarried
http://webhome.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/entitlement_program.phtml
TheMightyMoto
Reagan did a bunch of terrible shit still. Though he would be a rino by today's gop standards.
dogwithahumanface
Both parties have shift so far right that he'd be a Democrat now. All Dem presidents since Reagan have continued his policies and revere him
HonestCommentFarmer
Revere? Not really. Overly emphasize the good he did, perhaps. But compared to the Cult of Reagan the Repubs had a decade ago? No.
dogwithahumanface
Revere does not mean worship. Revere = feel deep respect or admiration for. So yes, revere is the correct word.
thickythickydumdum
That is an understatement. Reagan's policies were the catalyst needed for "citizen's united" to eventually happen. The balance of
thickythickydumdum
power between corporations power of influence VS actual US citizens was never the same after Reagan. He is one of the main reasons voters
thickythickydumdum
today have such limited power. So FREAKING stupid that Reagan is praised and not condemned by so many.
allthenamesaregone
Every dollar that goes to social security gets spent and contributes to GDP over and over and over.
Onda6g
As does "military spending" in places like Israel, Germany, and South Korea. It's a loop
TakeMeToFrontPageAndBackFiveTimesADay
Except that comes out the same place as funding for schools, transport, infrastructure. Spend less on that, you get more funding for schools
gtollie
Too bad we didn’t elect Gore in 2000, he would have put it in a lockbox
Bonsaipanda
That's the real issue isn't it - they don't want that money going into the economy, they want it going into their own pockets.
SkySpy404
250:1 vs 2:1 pay in vs pay out at inception to now
HansVerhaegen
Exactly. What does anyone think the people getting soc sec are gonna do with it? Put it in their Cayman accounts? Buyback stocks?!