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Feb 26, 2024 7:16 PM
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hoozyerdatty
no, it happens for a reason...most of the time that reason is, you did something absofuckinglutely stupid
MandalorianFromMandalore
I actually dont think chaos is truly the default state of nature. Sure, weather can be chaotic, animals can behave chaotically, and plants grow in chaotic clumps, but weather is mostly calm, animals mostly stick to their instinctual drives, and plants grow where there is good soil, light, and water. A lot of things do happen for a reason, but human shitty behavior is not an excuse for that reason.
jejorda2
You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
Marcus Cole, Babylon 5
mikeatike
mikeatike
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mikeatike
#1 same for "it's God's plan". Fortunately the chrsitians thst I know aren't stupid enough to say shit like that around me at my moms funeral.
sickkid1972
Everything does happen for a reason,.. sadly however, the reason is, all too often, "Fuck you. I got what *I* want"
hoozyerdatty
no, it happens for a reason...most of the time that reason is, you did something absofuckinglutely stupid
hoozyerdatty
no, it happens for a reason...most of the time that reason is, you did something absofuckinglutely stupid
Freak0zoid
HighSorcerer
hoozyerdatty
no, it happens for a reason...most of the time that reason is, you did something absofuckinglutely stupid
gorillaClutch
"And then she wins the argument in the shittiest way possible!" Fuck I laughed at that before it made me so sad.
Thanlarkis
What that man went through, and how it's going now... I respect Patton so much.
gorillaClutch
When I first saw it I wasn't a parent. Now I am. The story of him telling his daughter fucks me up so bad now. Like imagine pretending to be happy all day the day after your wife dies to protect your kid and then being forced to destroy their world by telling them the truth. Fuck.
belthasarthegreat
I was 11 when my father passed in the night. My mom came upstairs and woke me up at 6:30 a.m. to tell me. I ran downstairs crying and screaming and hugged his cold body until the coroner got him. Fun times.
Thanlarkis
Yeah, tore me up.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
When my sister's husband died, she was at the hospital with him, in another city. My mom was at my sister's house, watching my nephew. My sister called me that morning and asked me to go out to her city, get her son (and my mom), and drive them to where she was at the hospital. But we couldn't tell her son anything because she wanted to break the news. It was awful. The whole 2.5 hours driving there, I'm like, what are we going to say? And then we had to drive 3 hours with him, to where my /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
sister was waiting to tell him his dad was dead. Poor little guy. I can't even imagine how hard it is for he and my sister now. And my sister's depressed and not working and I just don't know what's going to happen to them. /2
Lepidopterous
I’m sorry about your brother-in-law. I went through a similar thing recently with my sister and her kids. And I know every situation/individual is different, but the best advice I can give is stay involved in your nephew’s life as he grows up and look out for your sister even if she isn’t explicitly asking for help.
My nephew was 7. He is turning 10 this summer and my sister is still depressed and struggling to function. I try to do my best to be present in their lives.
mm1434
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.
duktayp
If only there was profit in being kind
AnitaPeeeeee
Kindness is bad for the economy.
charondaboatman
There is. Just not as much as not being kind. Greed is a horrible thing.
Thanlarkis
Enriching others enriches the world.
Thekindofkindlyman
“Which means less for me. Socialism!!!” /s
Z0op
Thats long term talking, we want money right now! Dont care about the long term, will be long dead by then, who cares about that? Profits nao!
CosplayComet
It's crazy how people don't get that if everyone's lives get better...EVERYONE'S lives get better. That's how societies are SUPPOSED to work
Kyengen
But that's not what the people looking only to profit want. They want to be king. They don't care if it's the king of ashes. They need someone to look down on, to be better than. To so many, success means nothing if it's unaccompanied by the envy of your peers. In the absence of a Little Match Girl, they will create one just to make sure there's a hierarchy.
Thanlarkis
PenguinNamedWobbles
I had a very cool manager once that looked and talked just like Patton. I came into work one day and there was an emergency meeting. It turns out he had a random heart attack while mowing his lawn and died in his 40s. Terrible things happen all the time for no reason, don't forget to enjoy your life.
Bigemedic
It's all chaos, be kind. We should all get this tattooed on our arms.
FrankDimaggio5691
One cannot adequately explain the nature of life. Those that claim to know, absolutely, are trying to take something from you. Those that attempt to explain it sincerely are called artists.
Feralkyn
"A chaos where the cells that live procreate and the ones that die do not and this somehow forms multiple interacting societies of sentient cells" I don't want anything thanks
Thanlarkis
Life is to be lived, as best we can, before it ends.
littlecoatfatguy
Work hard and be good to people. That's it.
ThatBobbyG
Too bad Patton Oswald treats people like shit, according to my coworker who he treated like shit.
ThatBobbyG
Too bad Patton Oswald treats people like shit, according to my coworker who he treated like shit.
Lexgeddon
There a story, or...?
ThatBobbyG
She worked at a marketing agency and he was a client. He didn’t give them any time or dates for his shows, told them to “find it on the internet.” So they did, and when they got a date wrong he screamed at everyone.
Lexgeddon
Oof.
Thanlarkis
And party on, my friend
SergeantMajorSpoiler
Patton Oswalt is my top5 favourite comedian, possibly top3.
doctorId
Be like Waymond
KalypsoKirin
We are the antithesis of entropy. In a universe that seems to inevitably knock every glass off of every shelf, like a particularly mischievous cat, we humans pick the glasses up, and put them in order. I think the last thing we should do is add to the chaos by knocking the whole shelf down.
Thanlarkis
The best laid plans of mice and men... We're bringing chaos, too.
HarperLee
I just finished the HBO GSK documentary - I knew Michelle was in it and I knew she died before they caught him, but I was not expecting the doc to focus so much on her and her contributions. It's a touching story and really is worth your time, but note that GSK is just the reference point for a documentary on Michelle McNamara
hoozyerdatty
no, it happens for a reason...most of the time that reason is, you did something absofuckinglutely stupid
Thanlarkis
Cancer, getting slammed by a drunk driver, SIDS...
hoozyerdatty
dude...I said "most"...yes, the rest is just WTF Chaos
Thanlarkis
Cancer, getting slammed by a drunk driver, SIDS...
Thanlarkis
Cancer, getting slammed by a drunk driver, SIDS...
johndoejersey05
NOINITIATIVE
...so...narcissism.
2B4UALL
Most political leaders clinging to power by any means fall in this category
martineb72
The thing is, it isn't just no empathy. It is no empathy for this other people. Some of the worst inhumanities happened because this group of people are defined as 'other'. Some of them truly had no empathy, but the majority of defendants didn't think those 'people' are humans.
Merdock
That's the thing, I suspect that in many cases those that we call immoral think of themselves as moral. The best way I have thought about it is that we generally view morality as the well being of our social group, but who we consider as part of our social group depends on the individual. For some it's all humanity or all life on this planet, for others it's much smaller like race, political ideology, town, family. And for narcissists, it's only themselves. ->
Merdock
So if we see someone mistreating someone within our social circle, we view them as immoral. But for them, they don't think that they need to be worried about the victim because they're not in their social circle. They're "the other" as you put it. I don't think anybody would consciously think about morality this way, and I doubt many people would agree with me, this is really a musing I once had to potentially explain why people who we might consider monsters think of themselves as good people.
WhiteyHead
By this definition autistic people are evil.
Feralkyn
I know what you're trying to say and even though you got "autistic" wrong I will point out that part of what you said is right: inability to feel empathy doesn't make someone evil or bad. A person incapable of feeling empathy can still CHOOSE to be a good person through logical choice; but I think the point is all these pricks ALSO lacked empathy. Like "not all X are Y, but all Y are X" kinda thing.
Outlavv
You perhaps misunderstand autism a bit
Thanlarkis
My son is autistic and he feels very strongly when others are hurt around him.
OnyxTurret
Same with my son. He doesn't always understand why others feel the way they do, or why he feels the way he does, but he's affectionate and gets upset when others are upset.
Lepidopterous
Not autistic people. Psychopaths.
Ppl on the spectrum feel emotion, they just have trouble recognizing or communicating it in social interaction. Psychopaths, on the other hand, do not feel when they hear a whimpering animal, see a person in pain, etc. There’s no emotional response in them even when they register a sad/cruel event. Whereas ppl on the spectrum may have trouble identifying/displaying the appropriate emotion for a given circumstance. It’s a disconnect as opposed to an off switch.
Feralkyn
Ehhh, that's a popular perception of psychopathy but there IS no agreed definition of it. This is just pedantic but I think it's important to remember b/c people tend to throw the words around a lot, and they can *also* be dehumanizing. Reason being: someone who can't feel empathy can still be a decent person through logic. Like "logically I know what suffering is, I'm not gonna cause it even if I can't feel empathy" sorta thing.
EntropyEJ
Interestingly I think a lack of empathy is also the common denominator for people in modern conservative movements.
GoGoDigit
Thank you❤️
Dipsomaniac
“Evil begins when you begin to treat people as things.”
― Terry Pratchett, I Shall Wear Midnight
0RumRunner
"It's a lot more complicated than that."
phalanxausage
No it isn't.
akefay
"No. It ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they’re getting worried that they won’t like the truth. People as things, that’s where it starts."
katejo2000
So basically Lack of Empathy = Psychopath
Feralkyn
Psychopath's an overused word with no REAL agreed-upon definition. It's just that we as humans often have this idea that some people are this iredeemable, Biblical-tier evil-at-heart when really, they're just assholes
whistlebuzz
Massive
Rookvlees
Not necessarily. It is possible to feel no empathy for, say, children in Gaza, citizens of Ukraine, school shooting victims, elder abuse, or victims of British genocide simply because the person does not know any such people or is not accustomed to thinking about them as such. Such horrors may be facts of the universe in the way that the sun is, or that the Roman Empire was, but they don’t affect the thinker personally, so…they just don’t register. Apathy is not the same as psychopathy.
Richter12x2
But empathy doesn't require prior experience, you're thinking of sympathy. I have not been at war, but I feel badly for the people of Ukraine. That's empathy. If you can't feel for someone because you're not personally impacted, then you have no empathy, and are potentially a psychopath, or at least a sociopath.
Hackwitch
Thing is, it doesn't take full sociopathy to lack empathy for an individual or group, it just takes seeing them as lesser than you, as less than human. Its why one of the first steps in genocide is to use dehumanizing language, calling people "parasites" or "vermin", you can convince ordinary people to do truly horrific things if they view those they are doing them to as subhuman. One of the hardest things to come to terms with about WW2 is that most of the Nazis weren't psychopaths, just people