As much as I chuckle, I'm also personally aware of a particular critical government system literally running off one old computer in the programmer's garage and it still gives me the occasional heebie jeebies years after I left the agency.
You see, as recently as the late 1900s people used to pay to have the news printed on dead trees and brought to their house, and in the middle there would be a page of funnies, like webcomics but also printed on the dead trees, and this particular comic was in several of the larger ones around where I grew up
Actually, Windows 3.1 and/or Windows 95 . They were criticized a few years ago for having such out-of-date systems, which likely contributed to their December 2022 flight cancelation fiasco. https://www.forbes.com/sites/hershshefrin/2022/12/31/can-southwe">ew-year/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/hershshefrin/2022/12/31/can-southwest-airlines-fix-its-systemic-weaknesses-in-the-new-year/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/southwest-cloudstrike-windows-3-1/
Oddly, all the places with outdated server software would have avoided the problem. One of the few times not updating would have been of benefit system stability wise.
They were okay by sheer, dumb luck. Their corporate leadership are so incredibly stingy that their entire company runs on a mainframe from 1991 (on the premise that they can't be hacked if their system is so antiquated no one knows how to hack it anymore), and so they missed out on the Great Crowdstrike Bed-Shitting of 2024.
I mean, considering we've all just decided that paying for seating, paying for bags, and now paying for carryons is okay? Yeah, Id take southwest most days.
I'd prefer this situation over them just raising prices on all tickets. Airlines are not, in fact, these massively profitable businesses. Usually their margins are low single digits. That's still enough to be sustainable given the enormous overall revenue, but they aren't just being greedy here.
Except tickets on other airlines are massively more once you factor in all the shit- $30 a seat choice with a single layover to and from? Thats $120 in seat choices. Paying extra for a worse flight. Don't buy a seat? Theres a chance you get bumped. $40 a bag to and from? $200. Southwest does none of that and its tickets are cheaper. But god forbid we don't overpay some CEOs or stick an inflight tablet with a video library(like we don't already have a device with streaming, smdh) in every seat.
Mmm, they kinda are tho. They’ve done the classics late stage capitalism of taking in debts and obligations when years are good instead of saving it up for when shit hit the fan.
They are profitable to *shareholders*, otherwise *shareholders* would have *shares of the company*.
This isn't a shoestring community theater for the local LGBTQ+ kids who have a dream of escaping Bumbleweed, this is a major airline doing the bare minimum people will withstand and siphoning every penny of profit for the shareholders.
I mean Airbus basically fly themselves so a little IK+ seems a good option for a 2 or 3 person crew. If it's Boring, I'd be worried about someone to forget to press the "don't fall off" button quickly enough when an alarm happens.
Boeing. Companies that use airbus are ones like delta and American Airlines and are typically for flights that are longer than 5 hours. All the budget and or short flights will almost always be a 737
cobacalao
* cleans glasses *
* reads again *
Kiore
As much as I chuckle, I'm also personally aware of a particular critical government system literally running off one old computer in the programmer's garage and it still gives me the occasional heebie jeebies years after I left the agency.
quzar
I'm reminded of this: https://www.woodtv.com/news/grand-rapids/1980s-computer-controls-grps-heat-and-ac/ I know I had seen a more interesting writeup from the programmer some years ago but couldn't find it.
ijdod
I don't think many people realise how much mission critical infrastructure isn't as robust as you'd expect.
trekkiedane
Just happened upon this today...
Vergenbuurg
Huh. Never knew that was an actual comic strip series, let alone its name. Thanks. Was only familiar with this particular one:
IAmTheBadW01f
You see, as recently as the late 1900s people used to pay to have the news printed on dead trees and brought to their house, and in the middle there would be a page of funnies, like webcomics but also printed on the dead trees, and this particular comic was in several of the larger ones around where I grew up
trekkiedane
A little along the same line...
NotACanadian
I'm gonna read that C++ For Dummies book on my bookshelf one day. Some day. Maybe.
DorkJedi
I mean, its still relevant-ish...
snowy129
I still have a Pascal book on my shelf. Dusty.
snowy129
Not even Turbo Pascal.
bingotown
For real why were they okay? Linux?
marsilies
Actually, Windows 3.1 and/or Windows 95 . They were criticized a few years ago for having such out-of-date systems, which likely contributed to their December 2022 flight cancelation fiasco. https://www.forbes.com/sites/hershshefrin/2022/12/31/can-southwe">ew-year/">https://www.forbes.com/sites/hershshefrin/2022/12/31/can-southwest-airlines-fix-its-systemic-weaknesses-in-the-new-year/ https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/southwest-cloudstrike-windows-3-1/
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
I would have thought they would have updated after all that shit.
Targe0
Basically, or custom system. Basically everything that went down was windows based systems.
bingotown
Yeah, I’m a Linux guy but yesterday was still a sixteen hour workday starting at 1:30AM helping out the Windows server team.
Targe0
Oddly, all the places with outdated server software would have avoided the problem. One of the few times not updating would have been of benefit system stability wise.
JohnnyLawlessEsq
They were okay by sheer, dumb luck. Their corporate leadership are so incredibly stingy that their entire company runs on a mainframe from 1991 (on the premise that they can't be hacked if their system is so antiquated no one knows how to hack it anymore), and so they missed out on the Great Crowdstrike Bed-Shitting of 2024.
Canofminus
It’s the manual transmission theft deterrent, but with archaic OS’s instead.
alaest0r
This is why I write all our infra tools in FORTRAN
macrolet
(laugh (lisp (common)))
alaest0r
(incf upvotes)
NachoIskerka
I mean, considering we've all just decided that paying for seating, paying for bags, and now paying for carryons is okay? Yeah, Id take southwest most days.
Seanspeed
I'd prefer this situation over them just raising prices on all tickets. Airlines are not, in fact, these massively profitable businesses. Usually their margins are low single digits. That's still enough to be sustainable given the enormous overall revenue, but they aren't just being greedy here.
NachoIskerka
Except tickets on other airlines are massively more once you factor in all the shit- $30 a seat choice with a single layover to and from? Thats $120 in seat choices. Paying extra for a worse flight. Don't buy a seat? Theres a chance you get bumped. $40 a bag to and from? $200. Southwest does none of that and its tickets are cheaper. But god forbid we don't overpay some CEOs or stick an inflight tablet with a video library(like we don't already have a device with streaming, smdh) in every seat.
dracklen
Mmm, they kinda are tho. They’ve done the classics late stage capitalism of taking in debts and obligations when years are good instead of saving it up for when shit hit the fan.
jasondeslin
Given what they spend on CEOs and making airports pretty, it's their fault that it isn't profitable.
wouldClimbForCash
I heard the real business is in the points market. They make more profit on that than flying.
VitaminJay
They are profitable to *shareholders*, otherwise *shareholders* would have *shares of the company*.
This isn't a shoestring community theater for the local LGBTQ+ kids who have a dream of escaping Bumbleweed, this is a major airline doing the bare minimum people will withstand and siphoning every penny of profit for the shareholders.
PoorSucker
Not true.. run on Amiga ...system in Cobol
demoncatmara
Amigas were (are) amazing
PoorSucker
True
ConvokeMyropolist
MarsIsAfire
CEO of my huge company keeps calling it cobalt lol I mean, on one hand, why would he know, but on the other,

CaptainHyperbole
hotrodny
Well, if that is true, it will run forever. Or atleast until condensators dry out.
adamsonpaul5772
We have a system at work. Purchased in 2017. Written in Cobol. Accessed via Citrix. Has comic sans at the font.
Not sure if they're taking the piss.
Frothington
The only downside is the pilots often play International Karate Plus during flights.
Richter12x2
Load kennedy_approach.*
dalaiyoda
Good times!
SheepySleepySmuggler
Do they fly Airbus or Boeing aircraft?
trekkiedane
Asking the REAL question!
SheepySleepySmuggler
I mean Airbus basically fly themselves so a little IK+ seems a good option for a 2 or 3 person crew. If it's Boring, I'd be worried about someone to forget to press the "don't fall off" button quickly enough when an alarm happens.
Thorketil
As long as they don't play it with the joystick...
buttcreambandit
Boeing. Companies that use airbus are ones like delta and American Airlines and are typically for flights that are longer than 5 hours. All the budget and or short flights will almost always be a 737
CoBr2
Eh, the Airbus 220, ERJ and CRJ handle more of the short flights. The 737 is really the 2-4 hour flight time.
Unless you're Southwest that only has 737's.
SheepySleepySmuggler
Damn... I guess playing IK+ helps keep your mind off the inevitable...
somethingstupidandclever
I guess I'm lucky. I fly about once a month from east coast to chicago on allegiant and its always airbus.