randomlettrs
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Lipid layers and mRNA, still -20C storage. Good job Moderna.
Guys, you were the first ones. But -70 C. That's colder than in... some really cold place.
Entering first gene therapy vaccine. So using a virus to enter the gene from another virus, like inception style.
J&J also trying the old (new) GT game. Still solid protection.
Russians bombing the immune response with two different adeno serotypes.
Also a valid strategy to get a response, just attach Spikey-boy and boom!
Talking about old school Salk, here's Sinopharm with inactivated corona.
I thought I did these guys already?
But hey. Really it does not matter which vaccine you take, the immune response is triggered and you will get protection from severe COVID-19, newer variants or even the disease. I like those odds, sign me in!
Check https://lapipette.com/ for translations to other languages.
ItSeemsYouHaveSufferedaTerribleFate
What do the dollar signs represent over the flags? How much it costs to produce the vaccine?
Havok707
6 per shot astra and 30 per shot pfizer if I remember right
Havok707
Was wrong, 19.50 for pfizer, $15 for Moderna's shot, $16 for Novavax's program, $10 for Johnson & Johnson's vaccine and $4 for AstraZeneca's
RuffleMyFluffles
And here we're gonna be able to book our first shots in the summer, then have a second shot after 4 months...
astinus
Canadian?
RuffleMyFluffles
Ontario =(
lilcarb
getting my first shot on thursday. i'll let you guys know if i suddenly start liking microsoft edge
modi123
Got mine Thursday, and found myself buying an xbox controller sat. I don't even own an xbox! I kid.. needed it for no man's sky.
qPRdxH4UXm36HS9rJgLA
Easy to understand explanation from XKCD https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/mrna_vaccine.png
NeverEnoughFoxes
The protein covered nanoparticles is interesting. Literally viral training dummies!
LarsZifer
ReginaKasteen
It's amusingly direct. "We could teach the body to make these things that kill the virus, OR, we could just do it ourselves."
randomlettrs
Issue is more in the manufacturing and keeping them separated. Not so easy in large scale.
Miller16of16
Does it need an adjuvant? 99.9% sure the Adenovirus and mRNA do not.
mmontour
Yes. My question is whether it’s as good at producing a strong T cell response rather than just antibodies. Might affect long term immunity.
NeverEnoughFoxes
I would imagine so. It's still a cool technology that may allow for vaccines for things we can't easily vaccinate for.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
“How dare you tell me to poison myself!” - Karen probably
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Mrb3ar
Just got my 2nd modena today. Now my YouTube algorithm is only showing big tittie anime. My coworker had similar symptoms
MenloPart
Description unclear. Do you have a link? For science! :D
N0ticeablyFAT
I think your pervy coworker hacked your youtube account bro.
JC420praiseit
Genuinely interesting
kamosey
Bit outdated, I'm afraid. Several recent studies have shown different results in efficacy and effectiveness against mutated strains.
postingpandas
Do you have a link to the more recent studies?
kamosey
Couldn't find a recent comparisons I'm afraid. It's small things, like Pfizer efficacy is at 91% but seems to protect against variants etc.
catsandcoke
Had my first Pfizer. Everyone I know had an easy time. Not me. My arm ached for a week. I felt crappy the next day. So tired all week.
catsandcoke
Swollen lymph nodes and a sore throat all week. Ugh. I’m still getting the 2nd shot though.
OctopusStinkhorn
I don’t know. A guy from high school 30 years ago says not to trust any of them. And he’s only been to jail twice.
Baughr
My dad's friend's wife who has no education doesn't trust them.
GlennBecksChalkboard
My mom who reads facebook said you can't trust the any of the mRNA stuff because they tested it on animals and they died shortly after.
JediMasterSarah
They died you say? I need to book an appointment asap
The701
I was sent something saying that both the virus AND the vaccines are bioweapons. ?♂️?♂️
MenloPart
I am still trying to figure out how Biden is both an idiot and an evil genius AND how masks don't do anything except restrict oxygen.
The701
Well an orange POS once said Biden would "hurt God." So if Biden can do that, things like simultaneously being an idiot and genius, and
The701
changing physics so that masks obstruct oxygen for some people would be mere child's play.
MenloPart
I don't know about God (at least in this case), but Turnip hurt my head thousands of times, so there is that.
rdubbs
Getting my second shot April 21st, Moderna!
DeKetsendeRechter
Wow Lubach wasn't joking. Johnson & Johnson one is Dutch, not american.
schizznatt
Before you get too hung up on the different efficacy rates, Vox does a nice segment on why they aren’t really comparable:
schizznatt
https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
StarscreamAndHutch
So how long do they last? I haven’t seen anything that predicts this.
TheS4ndm4n
No way to tell... They are only half a year old. And it mainly depends on new mutations popping up.
guitarfourtysix
Pfizer says "at least 6 months " at the present. It's likely much more, but they can lock that number down with data so far.
guitarfourtysix
Sorry, no link. I got the Pfizer, so I looked it up one night, weeks ago. I also read it shows protection from B1.1.7 as well.
mike13815
If everyone got the vaccine as soon as they could, given current supply, it won't matter. Problem is anti-vaxxers are mutation breeders
MenloPart
I have read that it is comparable to immunity after an infection--it depends.
ReginaKasteen
I don't think there's a practical way to speed up the reduction in protection, so, I guess we'll find out when it happens?
Sutashi
I've seen at least 6 months but nothing certain.
ReiiamaKotsu
My understanding with that measure is it has only been in circulation that long, so purely based on observation.
Nuklei
My parents in law were told 3 months - Pfizer vaccine
TinyOctopus
Tiny octopus wonders if your in-laws got the vaccine three months after it was released.
Nuklei
I think the were vaccinated in January
phobosorbust
That may have been the most they could support with clinical data at the time, but the real number will be a lot higher.
Blizky
Si far they’re all 100% efficient in avoiding hospitalizations and death.
DonnaNobleInTheLibrary
@op What do the $$$ mean? Public investment, cost per dose, ..?
Havok707
19.50 for pfizer, $15 for Moderna's shot, $16 for Novavax's program, $10 for Johnson & Johnson's vaccine and $4 for AstraZeneca's
Sutashi
I'm curious about future maintenance. We'll eventually need boosters. How will that be handled? I got Pfizer. Will I need to seek out a...
Trelfar
You should be able to use any effective vaccine as a booster, since the goal is triggering the immune response. Which vaccine you take 1/2
Trelfar
2/2 only changes how effective the trigger is in that instance, and doesn't typically affect future immunizations.
WhoDoesntLikeTacos
They don't have enough time/data for research on that because until recently much of the population wasn't vaccinated. At least 6 months. ?
Sutashi
Pfizer booster or will I be able to get any booster? I'm sure the smarter people working on this will figure it out but I'm curious.
ollikahn
u could use any
chine
so the "active ingredient" in all of these is the spike protein. Any shot should be able to boost the response.
chine
(I'm not a doctor)
playingwithknives
First dose in 2 days!
NecroticWords
The Novavax one is a bit confusing. Treat me like I'm five if you can explain it?
Havok707
If i could choose, I would grab that. Unfortunatly, you don't get to choose and the astrazeneca is cheaply stockpiled everywhere.
Dumfk
Novavax = synthetic spike protein, Moderna and Johnson = body makes spike protein, sinopharm = pieces of virus with spike protein
softsuit
Great Explanation.
ScourgeOfAges
Instead of building genuine covid proteins in either a covid virus or using your own cells, that one injects synthetic proteins directly.
ScourgeOfAges
(unless I misunderstood badly. I am not a mircobiologist or immunologist)
randomlettrs
Yep. Direct presentation to immune system. Needs quite a load of proteins.
Anfalicious
Just remember they are all reporting different methodologies, so the numbers aren't comparable - one is made by a university for no profit.
JackArnone
Got my second dose of Moderna today. My arm is sore but no symptom otherwise.
thissucks999
IIRC if you have relatively no reaction from the 2nd dose, that means if you got covid you'd likely have been in trouble.
Reflectoreyes
I was good till 7am next morning after 2nd dose, then felt cold and achy all over for 2 days. More unusual for my age at 66.
nutsnack
Nice. Wife got her 2nd on a Friday, felt like shit with aches, tired and fever. But 100% fine Sunday.
IJustReallyLikeFrogs
I'm excited for my 2nd dose of Pfizer in 20 days. My first yesterday only feels like I've been punched on the arm.
iamthecomet
I would like several of all of them please
3006mv
Ha ha ha what would happen to you I wonder? Super protected or ded can you OD from too many vaccines?
candiduscorvus
I spoke to an immunologist about it and she cautiously said it shouldn't hurt you, might help boost immunity, but ask an MD.
iamthecomet
Didn't say I would take them all at once.
archos5fan101
Well the government paying
HootSloot
Enough of anything will kill you. The effects of some can be unpleasant so imagine at best you'd feel shitty for a few days.
HootSloot
I don't think much if any info exists for interactions of course.
IKnowWhatsInPandorasBox
Hey! Johnson &Johnson is actually Jansen and it's a Dutch developed and made vaccine!
Mosquitoesalsohaveasweettooth
I had heard of Jansen in Swedish news but hadn’t looked into it. I was wondering why it wasn’t mentioned, so thank you for clearing that up!
BeeWoman
The mother company is based in the US so of course they're very eager to call the vaccine American... ;)
IKnowWhatsInPandorasBox
I know, it annoys me caused it read made by Dutch scientist and only gets bottled there and they claim it ?
BeeWoman
I'm not that patriotic of a dutchman, but that claim ticks me. I know that it doesn't matter who made it, but credit where it's due, right?
IKnowWhatsInPandorasBox
100% agree!
ArcaneM37
Turns out some are allergic to the new coating on the Pfizer and moderna ones.... like me... 12 days of hives. But still immune!
CapitalNick
Slight rash on my arm from Moderna. Gone in about 3 days.
ccman87
How long did that take to kick in from injection time? (getting 1st Pfizer friday)
AlligatorLoki
Got my first done finally today. 5G works great!
iLikeTurtlesAndPizza
My friend is really stupid and doesn’t get it. Can some one explain it to my “friend.”
AlligatorLoki
Conspiracy about vaccines and bill gates attempt to install microchips in ppl yadda yadda
ActionJohnnie
Looking forward to the 2nd shot and 10G
AlligatorLoki
25G. Multiply
unimportantname
I went and got a Zune and loaded it up with Dolly Parton's greatest hits!
adamant
Had mine yesterday. Just wait till you get through the night and wake up with a really strong pain in your arm to OWN THE LIBS
Bearjahud
Got mine on Saturday! Signal is clear, and my lesbian batsignal is blazing.
TheBigBadBonerBiter
I'm still waiting for the autism to kick in so I can go to Vegas and clean house Rain Man style and retire early.
waltjrimmer
I got my first Pfizer today. They scheduled my next for four weeks away instead of three, which I find odd, but, here's to hoping it works.
RunawaySpoons
Congratulations! In the UK it's 12 weeks between doses. It seems to be working okay, so a 4-week gap between your doses should be just fine.
ImgursLibertarian
I like how the nanobots go straight to the pecker.
RealRaceRiotsAreAboutGettingBlueshelledInMarioKart
Dammit, they just gave me 5Gs instead of 5G signal. *Sad money noises*
SerialChickenLover
I got my first Moderna and now I feel better know I’m getting one of the better vaccines.
ChevelleInMontana
Same here J&J gave me a huge boost in mobile connection in remote areas!
sylvanarius
Got my first today too! Tracker is apparently buggy though. Appointment to fix in 28 days...
iamlegendinjapan
Got my first today. Took my body a min to adjust but I think it connect to bluetooth now
lalalalsblablabal
That was really funny. Laughed hard.
otherJeffsarefalseJeffs
But have you turned gay yet, or possibly into a gay frog?
itmfa666
I have this glow to my personality now.
KorrasamiOTP
Same!
WhatYouWant01
My wifi works so much better
anengineerandacat
Glad I ain't the only one making chip and wifi jokes when I hear someone get the vaccine.
jooobe
Nice, my injection site is now a wireless charger
wilima
Since getting my vac I’m hearing the macOS start sound when waking up in the morning. Would have preferred Linux. Hoping for Jailbreak soon.
myotheralt
I got my moderna 1 on Saturday. Today I had to rma my phone.
GrumpyOldMillennial
I got my 1st J&J on Friday and it was awful. They tell me the 2nd one is worse which I am NOT looking forward to.
Bones147
Are you sure it was J&J? I thought that one was single dose?
GrumpyOldMillennial
My bad, Pfizer was the one I got. I was just talking to a coworker about his j&j shot and I got yhem mixed up. My brain is fucky lately.
kerms
I am now unusually compelled to buy a Zune.
3006mv
And direct line to Bill Gates!
Elgirav87
All i got where some weird sex dreams about Billy boy. Does it mean i should get Windows 95 upgraded?
gtollie
My Windows 10 update was pushed out on the same day as my first shot.. Coincidence?
SPE825x
Batkhaan
Really worried about the B1.135 SA Variant :/
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Batkhaan
B.1.351 my bad
RedStarVidal
B.1.135 doesn't land till October. Man that's a crazy month for 2021! Don't worry though, the dinosaurs return with nanotech to save y'all.
deeprootsarenotreachedbythefrost
Preliminary data show that BioNTech/Pfizer is 100% effective against B1.351 variant (with a 95% confidence interval of 53%-100%)
deeprootsarenotreachedbythefrost
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-confirm-high-efficacy-and-no-serious
freckledkink
If you live in the US, we have all 3 known extra strains from around the world, plus we've made two new ones! So there are 1 plus 5 mutation
Batkhaan
Luckily I do live in Germany
freckledkink
Out there now.
SilverHornet
Given your base of anti-vaxxers I'm sure you'll make more soon too. They really concern me and I'm in bloody England.
freckledkink
The "vaccines cause autism" movement started in England. My kid was diagnosed with autism before that was debunked and I didn't believe it.
SilverHornet
There was a 'concerned mother' movement about combined MMR vaccine specifically, not vaccines on the whole, that's mainly an American thing.
fcukingcroissant
Covaxin is coming as a nasal spray
professionaloysterwalker
Got sauce for that? If it winds up being offered in the US, I'd seek it out. I'd like to know more.
fcukingcroissant
Ocugen is the US distributor for Covaxin https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.firstpost.com/tech/science/bharat-biotechs-intranasal-vaccine-
fcukingcroissant
Link isn’t the best. Google Covaxin intranasal
SilverHornet
Is that just COVID itself rebranded? Because that's already spread by nasal sprays.
haggerton
Careful, efficacy aren't measured the same. e.g. Pfizer only counted "symptomatic", while Sinopharm counted all positive COVID tests.
haggerton
The inflated effectiveness rating on Pfizer explains why it has a much higher hospitalization rate than expected compared to alternatives.
haggerton
On the field stats indicate 97% reduced hospitalization for Pfizer after vaccination, 100% for Sinopharm.
haggerton
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/real-world-evidence-confirms-high-effectiveness-pfizer
haggerton
www.thenationalnews.com/uae/health/sinopharm-vaccine-in-uae-how-effective-is-it-against-covid-19-and-are-there-side-effects-1.1175488
phobosorbust
So far every vaccine has eliminated fatalities, severe cases and transmission. Even a 'failed' vaccination gives valuable protection.
haggerton
Pfizer's data says it has not eliminated fatalities/severe cases (97% reduction is not 100%). They reduce but do not eliminate transmission.
haggerton
"Reduce" https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/04/03/covid-vaccines-reduce-transmission-but-still-wear-mask-experts-say/4833945001
haggerton
Well... "may reduce". A far cry from "eliminate". Wear your masks.
phobosorbust
Please keep wearing masks even if you're vaccinated. Helps keep others wearing theirs long enough to maybe beat this thing.
SilverHornet
Sino has been massively exaggerated in efficacy, both for PR reasons (China as usual), and so they can flog it to other countries
thissucks999
OP is a China bot. Ignore them
haggerton
www.thenationalnews.com/uae/health/sinopharm-vaccine-in-uae-how-effective-is-it-against-covid-19-and-are-there-side-effects-1.1175488
haggerton
Citation please. I provided my sources (real life results from UAE), you should provide yours.
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haggerton
Sinopharm =/= Sinovac.
SilverHornet
True, BBC linked me across from a Sinopharm article, I'm tired and didn't notice the switch in subject
SilverHornet
In-person discussions with someone deeply involved with NHS vaccines. I don't know what their sources were or if they're public.
haggerton
Unless your someone is Fauci, it doesn't beat real world data. Actually scratch that, empirical data beats appeal to authority.
SilverHornet
I agree, I just posted something. I don't know where they got their info but they'd not have that view unless it were concrete. It's not >
marcushippocampus
Interesting that the efficacy varies so widely. I wonder if there's a way one could request a specific product.
LAMovieDesign
Not the case here in LA, but I was lucky to get the Pfizer.
schizznatt
You can’t directly compare the efficacy rates. J&J was tested on both the Brazilian and SA variants and at a time when infection rates were
schizznatt
higher. A good video on it: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
DreamWeavr
So far Pfizer-BioNTech seems very effective even against variants, even the South African one.
robotzombies
When I scheduled mine, they asked me if I had a preference, so it probably depends on location.
Bowieponie
The variation is due to where they test it. More ppl in community have covid highrr chance test subjects will come in contact with it. Only
Bowieponie
Way to test it without waiting for community transmission would be to purposefully infect test subjects which is not ethical
Bowieponie
So even these reported efficacy is not necessarily 'true' but it's what they got based on results of the trials. Likely change as more ppl
Bowieponie
Are vaccinated and see how many become infected from there
schizznatt
The efficacy rates are not really comparable. Vox does a nice segment on it: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
Ninjainslippers
Trials were at different times, in different places. Also efficacy isn't the best measure. Just get whatever you can ASAP.
afatrollofmyown
Getting my FIRST tomorrow. Heckin nervous, but still going. For Dolly!
Ninjainslippers
Heck yeah! I'm getting the J&J tomorrow. Do it for Dolly, do it for your family, do it for whatever, just do it!
allthetimes
I’ve heard the efficacy is based on each companies trial results. It’s not a comparison between each vaccine.
allthetimes
Though, it would be interesting to trial them against eachother.
efemral
It’s wonderful that it’s over 50% let alone 70 and above. Don’t worry too much about which one you get.
NapoleonDynOmite
Whatever is available is what you get. I think in most locales it's only 1 or 2 products.
pinklady1969
In the UK we are given what is available on the day at the Vaccination Centre, mine was the AstraZeneca two weeks ago.
Gibleteousjack
It's fairly misleading because they were tested at different peaks and dips of infection rate. All will keep you off the vent or worse.
Gibleteousjack
I had Pfizer thru my employer and aside from my arm being sore for a few days on the first shot no real side effects.
birneysdad
The point is not to die from the disease and to get well faster to slow the spread. From the trials, every vaccine achieved that.
melmacalorian
The best vaccine right now is the one you're offered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3odScka55A
makem9999
That's efficacy against getting Covid, they are all 100% effective at preventing by hospitalization and death . they should say this more
makem9999
https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
freckledkink
You can look them up by which place is giving that vaccine and schedule your vaccine there.
schizznatt
They are all effective: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
freckledkink
They are. Some people have a preference for which one they want. I didn't want the Johnson & Johnson since trials have shown it to be less
freckledkink
Effective. Other people may want it because it's only 1 shot instead of 2. My sister wanted the Moderna. Now instead of just getting what
freckledkink
You get (in most places), you can look them up by type and see where it's being given near you. If that gets more people to get them, good!
schizznatt
I got Moderna (didn’t choose) but I like that J&J was tested on Brazilian and SA variants and at a time when infection rates were much
schizznatt
higher. Almost gives you more confidence in it. Pfizer & Moderna may have had similar efficacy if they had the same trial periods and
MenloPart
The site I used to sign up Mom here in Arizona said that it was the Janssen vaccine, but didn't specify when I signed up my brother. Mom
MenloPart
had me call and enquire. They said Moderna. She had me drive them half an hour each way, she took my brother in, and asked to be put on a
MenloPart
wait list. Then I drove them back and they made a second trip.
Astramancer
The state I'm in is doing drive through clinics and they let you know ahead of time which one it is.
WellBehavedWomenRarelyMakeHistory
I'm in Oregon and they dedicate days at the fairgrounds for specific vaccine. So you pick your vaccine by selecting the day it's offered.
afatrollofmyown
I'm also in Oregon, and we have pop up tents outside various pharmacies, don't even have to get out of your car in most cases! Neat as heck
Bones147
As far as I'm aware, pretty much everywhere it's "take what you can get" for now.
justyourfriendlyneighborhoodimgurian
I am happy to just be able to get it. I have family elsewhere (me = us, them = mexico) and they can't get any.
giley
Absolutely this. All of the main vaccines reduce your chances of serious illness, hospitalisation and death by more than 99%.
Youhavinagiraffe
It's far more important to get something in everyone than it is to quibble about individual virus efficacy rates
Ex2bot
Here in mid-Michigan, we have a choice between Pfizer / BioNTech and J&J through Ingham Co. Health Dept.
FeverandAgue
But also the those high level points are not reflective of the full picture. I know for the ones in the US, they are all highly efficacious.
FeverandAgue
Many people I know have gotten the choice though. I chose Johnson and Johnson.
Bones147
Without being too specific, where are you located?
FeverandAgue
Mid Atlantic, US
Einherion
Why JJ? I specifically didn't want that one
FeverandAgue
Single dose so I’m immune a full month earlier and just as good as the rest and has been tested against the new strains and performed well.
randomlettrs
Different populations, ages and exposures. It gets really complicated when thousands are tested.
szepasszony
Do you know anything about the different adjuvents used in the vaccines?
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
Could also be in regards to the testing done. I vaguely recall something like the J&J vaccine being more effective/higher efficacy>
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
after the trial periods ended. Something like immunity ramps up over time where as the other vaccines are 2-dose high-efficacy. Not sure >
IrateMeatAndMeatAccessories
why I vaguely remember that though, so it could be false, but I vaguely recall it.
giley
You can't directly compare the efficacy numbers, they mostly vary due to trial conditions. In the UK the Oxford and Biontech/Pfizer are both
giley
being widely used. The data so far indicate they have almost identical real world efficacy despite the apparent differences.
giley
Oxford/Astrazeneca was 73-99% effective, Pfizer/Biontech was 76-91%. These figures were efficacy after a single dose.
NapoleonDynOmite
That's my question. I had my 1st shot 2 weeks ago. It's the moderna vac. Wondering if there's any protection in the interim?
Phlindar
Pfizer said they are seeing 80% efficacy after 2 weeks. Modern a is theoretically “similar”. I’m sure moderna numbers will be coming soon
giley
There's some. First couple of weeks after is basically nothing, then it rises. Most people are around 80% after 4 weeks.
stulfer
If every human gets one of these vaccines now, the virus should die off a cross the globe and then we can target the remaining hot spots
IamnotEggman
Sadly only the richer countries have access, and have dumb people that actually refusing to receive it.
Gibleteousjack
America: Hold my beer.
schizznatt
Yeah I really don’t understand why rich countries aren’t shipping tons of vaccines to Brazil and SA to quell the variants.Very short-sighted
JC420praiseit
The clinics around here ONLY have Moderna. Otherwise I'd request Johnson&Johnson and get it done in a single dose
MeatPopsicleMultiPass
I am scheduled for second dose of pfizer... I'd rather have 2 shots and be more protected.
schizznatt
It doesn’t necessarily mean you are “more” protected. You can’t directly compare the efficacy rates. Vox does a good segment on it:
schizznatt
https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
Splinelock
I'm getting my JnJ tomorrow!
filben7
Moderna is better.
schizznatt
You can’t directly compare efficacy rates. A good video that explains why: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
schizznatt
Honestly, J&J was tested on both Brazilian and SA variants and at a time when infection rates were higher, so I’d be pretty confident in J&J
theredacted
J&J is being reserved for homeless in my state because of “the inability to find them a second time” which is slightly unfair imo.
theredacted
If they have the capacity to go once I think they would be able to go twice but, I still got moderna and they deserve it to so I understand
PastureofMuppets
Homeless grt moved around against their will and could be walking distance the first time but not the second. Also, everytime a homeless
PastureofMuppets
person has to go, they leave their only possessions, and possibly pet, exposed and unprotected.
ShiftingPattern
Sure, provided the police don't force them out of their encampment between doses, and no other common problems befall them. You're naïve. :(
schizznatt
J&J is not “worse”. You can’t compare the efficacy rates: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
theredacted
What? I just want the chance of only needing one shot. Which is why I put it here. Under this thread
theredacted
Oh. I guess I didn’t put it in the thread I thought I did
feryooday
but according to this, Moderna outshines J&J by a ton
schizznatt
You can’t really compare efficacy rates: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
flyingaardvark22
All the vaccines available in the US are 100% effective in preventing hospitalizations, which is great.
blessedbl4d3
When J&J was tested, variants were prevalent and infected population was over double the recorded cases of infections from the Moderna test.
schizznatt
Also, J&J was tested on both Brazilian and SA variants and at a time when infection rates were higher, so I’d almost be more confident in
schizznatt
the J&J vaccine. But really, they’re all effective. I just got my 2nd dose of Moderna.
feryooday
Trust me I’m definitely getting it. Pfizer#2 in 7 days. it’s just hard to look at ‘% effective’ and not compare
giley
You can't directly compare these numbers. They're too dependent on how the trial was run.
TheS4ndm4n
More specifically, where and when.
giley
And who.
schizznatt
Vox does a good segment on it: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
TheWhiteBarry
People have been saying that but I can't find a reputable source. Lots of media outlets but no medical professionals have confirmed it
EndocrineResearcher
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00409-0
schizznatt
Vox does a nice segment on it: https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A
MenloPart
Not a direct quote: