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I recognize this quote but I don't think Voltaire said it
Ah it was by Storm. Storm who?
Oh THAT Storm. The neo-Nazi. What a surprise that fascists are neo-Nazis. But wait there's more!
Of course he's a pedophile. That image is still bothering me. I think it is under a different context...
Yup. Conservatives not able to get a haircut is literally as bad as child labor
Sauce because I hate propaganda be it fascist or leftist or anything in between: https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1487872940431527941
*3rd time trying to post. Will Imgur get the order of my images right THIS time?
Eldibs
"If Conservatives are being silenced, why don't they ever shut the fuck up?"
AMR300
Imgurers! Attention please!. I specifically DO NOT allow you to criticize me, please. Now if you would be so kind and make me a crown
AMR300
Joking asie. damn. That's one nasty guy
XXXSpork
The thing is you CAN criticize Fauci or anyone else for that matter. There are no laws prohibiting it outside of libel and slander.
Boksha
To the people that use the quote like that, "not being allowed to say" a thing means you'll get told you're wrong when you say it.
daytimepajamas
Yet another gem of a legislator from Kentucky.
desolatorx
How exactly does Fauci "rule" over anyone? Goddamn the fuc*ing cognitive dissonance!
Insensitive
"I'm not allowed to criticise Fauci!" complains man who freely and openly criticises Fauci.
jfitz
So, no one then.
PicassoCT
Even the thought of taxing the rich, is frivolous..
Jay4Blue2
What do you mean? The rich get tax subsidies. Who do you think allows that? The people not taxing them.
PicassoCT
when you cant even contemplate a concept anymore- they got you good.
C0mmanderX
People openly question him all the time what is he talking about?
Raggsojj
Clearly kids with leukemia rule over us
TeddyMoment
Wait... who's been punished for criticizing Fauci?
NoNameFred
The thing is, these people confuse "criticism" with "death threats". That's why they respond so poorly to criticism & make the death threats
EverNotRelevant
You know... Those guys. With the stuff. Who did the thing.
hardytardigrade
Have you considered that hurt feelings caused by implication that a person can't do whatever they want without consequences = punishment? /s
jmartkdr
I saw a guy criticizing him and the the guy got laughed at. Which is the worst thing that can happen and clearly the government’s fault. /s
fartharder
The people "just asking questions"
SirBillington
It happened to his girlfriend, you wouldn't know her, she goes to another school... in Canada.
tr26
I called his office for comment on him posting a Strom quote, was rebuffed for not being a constituent.
igglebotato
Any of his constituents here? If so, we're all curious. https://massie.house.gov/contact/offices.htm
LordNergal
Also, if you understand Strom's beliefs, you'll realize he's not talking about societal leadership, but the conspiracy theory that Jews 1/
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secretly rule the entire planet. So rather than "this is how you identify who oppresses you," he's saying "this is how you identify Jew 2/
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sympathizers." This is why knowing the author's beliefs is damned important. 3/3
Brhino
Before all the current shit, people posted that quote with the response "I guess we're ruled by little kids with cancer".
SarcasticComment
"How dare I be ruled by the expectation to be a decent human being!?!"
wipethatfaceoffyourheadbitch
The good old days.
otiumCatulli
"we must rise up against kids with leukemia"
JohnnyGossamer
23h later, the tweet still isn't pulled. That says it all.
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
Dammit OP, you were doing well until you went and bothsides'd fascism. Just another big-brained status quo "moderate" after all.
SomeDetroitGuy
Did I miss the part where people are going to prison for questioning Fauci?
Fejerro
I would question Fauci if I knew enough to question Fauci. Has he made any statements on wifi? I could question those. Nothing medical tho.
chbarts
Storm is Strom? Strom is Storm? Coincidence?
Skig14
Lets not act like it'd be any better if Voltaire really had said it. He isn't exactly a guy we'd be celebrating if he were alive today
GlenL
"You mustn't question Fauci" says one of millions of people questioning Fauci
Beefkins
And no one is telling them that they can't criticize him. But criticizing an expert while you're an idiot just shows your ignorance.
londonosierra2000
Fuck evangelical fascism
StephenDaniels
But does anyone not get criticized? David Ortiz got elected to the HOF last week and he was picked on quite a bit by a Boston Globe cont>
StephenDaniels
Cont> writer who's house is not at all burned to the ground. If Big Papi isn't universally loved in New England who is?
Jak8714
Criticizing Fauci is fine; debating him with fucking facebook facts is not.
Jay4Blue2
Imagine having a Democrat president, senate and congress just to complain about "fascism".
tr26
Not Senate, it’s 50 GOP to 48 Dem and 2 Ind, but close!
Jay4Blue2
That's a tie breaker decision with the VP being a tie breaker. So you are wrong.
tr26
No, there are literally only 48 Dem senators and 50 GOP senators.
Jay4Blue2
No, there are literally 48 Dems, 2 independents, 1 VP tie breaker vs the 50 republicans.
tr26
Right, it’s not a Dem senate.
tr26
(And that’s counting manchin and sinema as Dem, which they officially are)
ranxerox2050
Thank you. This "Voltaire" quote always felt antisemitic to me. This seems to back up my suspicions.
PoliticalWanderer
And let’s not forget what fine people neo Nazis are either. Take this group from Orlando Florida, from just last week:
PoliticalWanderer
https://mobile.twitter.com/WUTangKids/status/1487798584149958663
PoliticalWanderer
https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/crime/os-ne-orlando-nazis-demonstration-reaction-20220131-sog5iicbuvdfpim2apkt6q74ea-story.html
PoliticalWanderer
Naturally a DeSantis official immediately jumped to their defense and asked if the people waving Nazi flags, shouting white power and slurs,
PoliticalWanderer
and getting into fights with passers by were even really Nazis.
GreatOdinsTaint
"No one is allowed to question Anthony Fauci" he says, as he questions Anthony Fauci.
DrewBerg
Whats an example of Leftist propaganda?
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chbarts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_the_Soviet_Union
IsolatedAsshole
Common sense.
Orzufancylad
Liberal != leftist, but
Subtilico
In the Netherlands the Liberal Party is a right wing party.
Orzufancylad
Which is why I said !=
AriBoBari
poor people deserve to live
FancySharkDinnerParty
I dunno. Encyclopedias?
PossumPanda
FernGully: The Last Rainforest
yetipc
the fact that the downvoted replies to your comment, are good examples of propaganda, are downvoted, is in of itself an example.
DrewBerg
Not really, They're just an example if people disagreeing with what was said. Downvotes are not propaganda.
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DrewBerg
And that's "Leftist propaganda" how?
Elroydb
Besides being blatantly unconstitutional remember what happened when the recording industry was brought in in the 80s?
DrewBerg
None of that is propaganda, and holding corrupt public officials accountable isn't the same as the music industry.
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DrewBerg
Again, neither of those are propaganda. I'm starting yo wonder if you actually know what propaganda is. Stating your political >
DrewBerg
Desires of affiliation isn't propaganda. Propaganda is altering facts and presenting it as news. No example you've provided falls under that
EverNotRelevant
None of that is propaganda.
irvingb01
You're getting into Cuckoo For Cocoa Puffs territory if you really think that's propaganda.
Elroydb
You agree with that statement?
Kamasu0Tra
You don't?
Splitlicker
Really? You see none? That in itself is unsettling. Republicans/Conservatives = Nazis/Fascists, ACAB, Boomers, cause of everything bad. Etc.
GlenL
Okay, pick up a dictionary, get yourself to a 6th grade reading level, and get back to us.
Splitlicker
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
DrewBerg
That's not propaganda. Those are generalizations. Propaganda is not just saying divisive things. Propaganda is altering facts and >
DrewBerg
Presenting them as actual news. You should learn what propaganda is, my friend.
Splitlicker
Here's the problem, this is a Left heavy and troll heavy site. What I listed are altered facts and people believe them. That's an issue.
DrewBerg
Except those aren't "altered facts". What you provided was peoples personal political desires, and at least one of them being a joke.
Animorphs
He’s not your friend, he’s a spiteful dumbass.
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EverNotRelevant
Ok, so you don't know what propaganda is.
Splitlicker
information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.
EverNotRelevant
So you ripped a definition from the dictionary and you still don't see how it doesn't fit your collection of buzzwords.
Splitlicker
And you don't see how it does. Which was my original point.
Youhavinagiraffe
There's a lot of communist propaganda art out there. Not a lot of relevant contemporary examples though
CaldariBob
Society (North American society, at least) doesn't do much art anymore. Been replaced with media.
chbarts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_in_China At least CCP propaganda.
DrewBerg
What does that have to do with American left policy supporters?
chbarts
Plenty of people deny the Uighur genocide because of CCP propaganda.
DrewBerg
Ok, and that's something progressive politicians and voters support? Every left leaning person I've ever seen is against ALL genocides.
chbarts
Some do. Tankies, for example.
RamsesMCMXCI
CCP isn't left, it authoritarian capitalist.
chbarts
It isn't capitalist at all, it's state socialist.
RamsesMCMXCI
You are wrong
Elroydb
100 companies 70% emissions, 16 homes per homeless, taxing billionaires would solve our financial issues, ANYTHING on r/antiwork
Youhavinagiraffe
What do you think "propaganda" means? You've just listed findings of studies, some strawman talking points and personal anecdotes
Youhavinagiraffe
What do you think "propaganda" means? You've just listed findings of studies, some strawman talking points and personal anecdotes...
Youhavinagiraffe
...and fyi according to recent census estimates there are ~12m homes vacant year round and nearly 600k homeless. So >20 each, not 16
Elroydb
It is so often used as justification for blocking new housing in places that need it. The NE and the West are at ~4% vacancy, about half of
DrewBerg
For the, I don't, fourth time? None of those are propaganda. Your attempt to "both sides" this is beginning to get embarrassing. Being >
DrewBerg
Center for the sake of appearing "moderate" or thoughtful isn't virtuous or impressive. Alright?
loma45
Occupy Democrats is a pretty good example of left wing propaganda. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/occupy-democrats/ . And I say this as 1/
irvingb01
Last time I looked at it on Facebook-- admittedly, a few years ago -- Occupy Democrats was a clickbait farm: every single one of their >>
irvingb01
posts was "[name of Democrat] Owns [name of Republican] in the Best Way Possible, Click Here for Details." Fuck 'em.
loma45
as a staunch progressive. "left wing" in this case is relative to the overton window in the US though. 2/2
TheEmeraldProphylactic
An apolitical giraffe-person
fartharder
bugcooper
reporting violent protests as "mostly peaceful" is my favorite
DrewBerg
Except that was factual. You're twisting their words. No one claimed the "violent protests" were mostly peaceful, but that the protests >
bugcooper
it is propagand because it was biased and tried to minimize the largest unrest since the 60s
DrewBerg
Were mostly peaceful. Here: https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/
bugcooper
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932022_United_States_racial_unrest 1 billion in damages and 62000 trrops brought in 200 cities
DrewBerg
https://acleddata.com/2020/09/03/demonstrations-political-violence-in-america-new-data-for-summer-2020/
bugcooper
kind of like when an article says something like "20% of police shootings involved mental illness" what they dont say is .0003 percent(1/2)
bugcooper
of police encounters end in fatal shootings (2/2).
CosplayComet
OMFG question Fauci all you want! Test other theories! Try to find alternatives!! ....but when you're FUCKING WRONG, admit it.
P0sterNutbag
Don't come to the conclusion that Fauci is bad then try to cherrypick what you can to support that.
fknbastard
And maybe…use science to test your theories- not YouTube
TheWombatStrikesAgain
They don't know enough for a serious debate, and they know if they try, they'll lose. Which is why they don't even try.
Crazycoke1994
This, the only thing I legitimately questioned him on was the shortened recovery time for covid for economy other then that I stand by him.
CosplayComet
That's the thing about science - it INVITES questioning and exploration. But when you're wrong, you're just fucking wrong. 1/2
CosplayComet
Stubbornly shouting that you're right, when the literal science does not back you up, just makes you look like an idiot.
BlameIt0nTibor
Apparently trans people rule everyone
CoarseAndSalty
And until you're fucking wrong, follow instructions from people who are in charge of managing this Pandemic.
CosplayComet
Fucking SERIOUSLY!!! Good LORD, they'll do anything BUT what has been proven to help!
Jay4Blue2
But Fauci never admits he is wrong, he might in his emails that had to be requested by court order, but not publicly.
Underhund
Yes there is an important distinction between not being allowed to and not being able to.
KuriyamaSoManyNumbers
Let them chug piss
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tenaciousjeebs
What was he wrong about?
LoudBirb
Not that simple: https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/hiv-covid-19-dr-fauci-his-complicated-relationship-larry-kramer-n1241684
LoudBirb
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-ptsd-aids-epidemic-cries-documentary-2021-10
waterbug136
Yes! Question the science! There are answers there! See what happens when you question Trump and the GOP though...
desolatorx
johnzaku
modicumjones
Yoink!
ElbowDeepInAPsychoticBreak
Yeet!
HurrDurrImABurr
No alternative, only question. No admitting wrong, only accusing others. They fully know how to play the game of becoming a fascist state.
Curmudgeoner
The alternative they've offered is eating horse de-wormer and drinking their own piss. So...that's where we are.
Zaranthan
I'm firmly convinced the CIA's meddling in other countries was motivated purely to practice setting up fascism and seeing what sticks.
Syrpynt
Not just the CIA, The Family/Foundation/Fellowship. National Prayer Breakfast is on Thursday. Some of you will understand.
johneventually1
And for those of us who don't quite understand all of that?
Syrpynt
National Prayer Breakfast is a Religiously funded event (not government), where *every* President for decades has spoken, it is funded by
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Isn't that kind of the point of science anyways? I'm referring to the scientific method I learned in middle school science class.
Kittynomnoms
Yes, which is why the WHO and CDC kept changing their recommendations for Covid as more info became available.
NoNameFred
Yes. As a scientist, Fauci will gladly welcome constructive criticism, peer review, and well-documented evidence of anything he gets wrong.
QuintinParry
Yeah but they miss the part where we go with the most complete answer until we understand more.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Methinks they just missed middle school science.
LordNergal
Not entirely accurate. Science goes with the most complete answer that can be confirmed by testing; there are many non-mainstream answers 1/
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that are more complete than the prevailing theory, but which are not as testable due to current technological limitations. Some of the 2/
LordNergal
theories just now reaching a point of testability due to technological advancement are over 100 years old. 3/3