Nerd Alert: Anyone else into Airships?

Mar 7, 2018 6:39 AM

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So I've been kinda obsessed with Zeppelins for a bit now, and mostly because no matter how cool I think they are, I know they're completely unfeasible as a modern form of transportation. They had their time and place when flying in airplanes was like riding a paint shaker, but now with first class cabins like small hotel rooms, there's no market for 130kph behemoths like this.

Still, I kinda felt like nerding out about them, so feel free to join me for a brief moment of nostalgia if you'd like.

This bad motherfucker is the Hindenburg. You can tell from the size and the nazi flag on the back. This was the biggest airship of all time, at 800 feet long and 135 feet across, carrying 50 passengers and a crew of 40. It got to about 120kph at cruising speed, taking just over 2 days to make it from Berlin to New Jersey. At the time it first flew, it was the biggest aircraft in operation and bar none the most luxurious way to travel. Stories tell that its ascent was so gentle that most people didn't realize they were 700 feet up until they woke up from their bunk. Quite a different experience than most takeoffs I've had, even with modern planes. (I don't know why I said it that way, it sounds like I've flown in not-modern planes, which I haven't)

You can see a rough sketch of the interior here. On the far left is the dining room and the starboard promenade, where 3-course meals were served by white-gloved waiters and you could sit and watch the clouds go by from the benches.

In the middle are the cabins, which I gotta say were less comfy-looking than the Graf Orlock. Good ol' Graffy had these nice plushy Victorian-styled cabins with wallpaper and portholes, but some idiot put spartan-style bunks in the middle of the Hindenburg with flip down cots and a basic sink. I blame the nazis, of course. They kinda ruin everything.

The port-side had a writing room in the back (I take it people liked to read and write on paper back then, so this would've made sense to have. today, maybe less so). The tables are in front of that was the lounge, where an aluminum piano (not pictured) would be played at times and I guess otherwise people would play monopoly and watch netflix or whatever people used to do in the 1930s for fun.

Downstairs was the bathroom area, the crew quarters, and the bar, which had a convenient airlock smoking room which just made sense when you were sitting under 7 million cubic feet of hydrogen. Apparently the bartender's most important job was spotting people leaving with a forgotten cigarette or pipe in their hand. Good thing he got 'em nice and toasty first before letting them go light up. Maybe that part could have been rethought, come to think of it...

This is a better picture of the Netflix room. You can see all the furniture is made of aluminum, as it was all throughout the rest of the airship because, you know, every ounce counts with lighter-than-air travel. This picture is taken from the port-side promenade, which was really ridiculously spacious and maybe an inefficient use of space.

Again, I blame the nazis.

This is actually the lounge from the British airship R101. See what a difference a complete lack of nazis makes? The furniture here is wicker, for similar weight reasons, but has way more of that certain je ne sais quoi. Floorspace might again be underutilized, but what's the point in drifting through the clouds if you're not gonna give yourself room to straight up get down?

So that brings us to today. This, as you may have realized, is not a real airship. There are some, but they're mostly big ugly blimp-looking things that are intended to be used to transport heavy goods to regions without infrastructure or terrain to build railroads, highways, or even landing strips. A bit of a far cry from the luxurious days of old, but it's awfully hard to persuade people to pay five times as much to fly ten times longer. Unless, maybe, we were talking about airship cruises?

Above is a concept drawing of an "Aether Airship". I'll be honest, I just like the interiors and overall look, but I could definitely imagine something like this parking atop the Empire State building. I think this was an academic design project, but I'm honestly too lazy to look it up again. You should youtube it though, it's definitely a much more interesting experience than reading about it could ever be.

Example Interior.

I don't know about you, but I like the idea of having the journey itself be part of the vacation, and I would definitely prefer a room like this for 2 days than 6 hours with my knees jammed up against the reclined seat in front of me. Of course, a room like this would probably be at least $10k for a 2 day trip, but that's for the accountants to figure out.

I'd like to imagine a future where you can take your time to watch the world pass by beneath you while you take in a night cap while watching a movie in your private bed. I'm told the difference in travel time alone is why it would never work, but there's gotta be some market for people who just want to spend time and unwind. Take in a cocktail at the bar, enjoy table service in the restaurant by full-length panoramic windows, try your hand at poker with strangers, or work at a proper desk without jarring bumps and turbulence. I think I'd pay a bit more just for that.

No pools though. I thought that one through and it definitely makes no sense. Too much weight and counterbalast.

Jury's out on hot tubs though.

So that's my nerding out for ya. I should probably take the time here to point out that no one should use hydrogen for it. duh. helium's expensive, i know, but you don't need to expend it for travel and the motors can run off of electricity, making it much more environmentally friendly and cost-efficient to fly than airplanes or even marine cruise ships. Don't paint it with thermite either, which you should know if you watch Mythbusters.

Also, because of their size and lightness they're easy to throw around in bad weather. I'm honestly not sure if there's any modern solutions to that problem, so it may be a fair weather only kind of affair. That I can't answer for you.

And yes, please feel free to post the Archer gif. I know you want to.

No tickets!

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Never thought about derigibles this way. Interesting.

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This might interest you, @op: http://www.massaud.com/node/386

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There' a film coming out this December called "Mortal Engines" it's the start of a quadrilogy, maybe a septilogy. Trust me you will love it.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fun fact: In the 1930's, some of the movies on Netflix was actually new...

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In the words of John Oliver: cool.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Kirov master race

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Zeppelin rules!

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Robert Plant's solo work isn't bad either.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

No ticket!

8 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Kenneth Oppel's Airborn and Skybreaker were two of my favourite books growing up.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You should read Mortal Engines (or watch the movie when it comes out this december) if you like airships or semi-steampunk you'll love it

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hello airplanes? It's blimps. You win. Bye.

8 years ago | Likes 86 Dislikes 2

I was trying to find this gif!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Surprisingly I couldn't find it either.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That has to be one of my favourite episodes!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m relevant? Woohoo.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like getting where I'm going in a timely fashion and not becoming a ball of fire

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Today, that comment seems somewhat contentious.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

PUT OUT THAT CIGARETTE! ONE MISHAP AND IT'S "OH THE HUMANITY!"

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Yes I am. I live in one of the only cities that has a building that was designed to accommodate them on the rooftop

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ayyyyyy I'm a bad boy!

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I flew a blimp. That's the only cool thing I've done.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Normandy MK3

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

No ticket?

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You are correct. Not sure why it cut the text out..

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

There. Fixed. v

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You were screwed if you were caught without a ticket though v

8 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 0

there it is

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It bugs me that he said "No ticket" in English, when they were pretending to be German. Should have been "Kein Ticket".

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The start of altered carbon.. sx in the sky

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why not change the two day travel time to a week with periodic landings and call it a sky cruise...

8 years ago | Likes 125 Dislikes 0

Imagine a sky cruise across the Canadian Rockies or down the Grand Canyon.

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

yeah that's exactly what I was thinking! or over the alps or along the coastline of china.

8 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I've found my people!! ^_^

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I've totally been thinking about what it would take to build an airship that could do air cruises and where I would go and see! Been 1/

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Struggling with my airship design though.. I have a few ideas, but I have yet to create a full prototype design yet.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

People already pay 1000 usd for a cheap cabin in sea cruises... Makes sense

8 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 1

I could see that being a thing for well off families or retirees. Sell it as a multistop tour with no traffic or seasickness.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Moon Moon likes airships too. v

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

My favorite airship is from Talespin!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is that an airship/ aircraft carrier?

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yes!

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don Carnage!

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Why can't we use airships as a form of international shipping, if we can give them the same capacity as cargo ships?

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

The Hindenburg, which was about the size of a modern medium cargo ship, could only carry 10 tonnes of useful cargo, including passengers.

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think you underestimate how much those ships move, giant container ships cargo weight can be something like 460,000 Metric tons

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1m^3 of helium is needed to lift one kg. That would mean only about 300t for size of a supertanker, 1/1000 if it's capacity.

8 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

but it's faster and more fuel efficient(at least I would think), so there has to be a point where it starts to make sense

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

not faster, no. it wouldn't replace ships, but getting goods to the arctic, desert peoples, or mountainous regions would be its best feature

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I’m partial to the fantasy style pirate-ship-with-propellers myself.

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8 years ago (deleted Mar 7, 2018 11:51 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

basically just look at guns of icarus

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Don Carnage.....yes no?!

8 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

You know, worth is in the eye of me who is doing the beholding. (translation: here's an upvote ;)

8 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm more of a Final Fantasy 9 airship guy

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yep just about every Final Fantasy has one

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This book Airborne maybe or the one with float rocks in the center section of ships... I member when I used to read

8 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The one with float rocks is called The Edge Chronicles. Your welcome that took me forever to find when i was tracking it down awhile ago.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thanks man. I read some pretty cool books when I was younger like in middle school. There was an alien series mc is a girl. Title starts

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

With an A. No need to find it but yeah. Crazy creatures. Damn that was like 10 years ago shit.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bowsers air ship?

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The Highwind.

8 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

You would like Worlds Adrift.

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If I won the Powerball, I'd have a zepplin built. I'd see the world in it. I'd outfit the thing like a goddamned mansion.

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Likewise.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Not sure you could build one even with $400 million. Although I guess you could use some of that money to secure additional funding.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

A blimp project is only a few tens of millions of dollars. It is a feasible dream.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

nono not a blimp, a rigid airship. blimps are toys for children and sporting events.

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Also it's one of the most zombieproof transports there could be.

8 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

They had zombiefied crows in one of the Resident Evil movies. They could f'up a blimp.

8 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

And global warming proof!

8 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

See now we are asking the right questions! Float above the ruins of the old dead World in my kickass airship. Sign me up

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