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Aug 22, 2024 7:39 PM
IceKarma
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badmonkey0001
Good dog!
MrCheesebiscuit
Just a simple will do. Sit! +1
RElGNMAN
IntelligentLake
So the dog is a lawyer and the treat is the present? They must be very good at lawyering.
Bluedinosaur
xizar
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/10/suspect-asks-for-a-lawyer-dawg-judge-says-he-asked-for-a-lawyer-dog.html
KingXizor
"I am asserting my right to have counsel present." Or however you have to say it to legally force those fucking 'lawey-dog' fucks to do their jobs.
jethroismaxbaer5772
Speak!
Clockworkdancerobot
Get them a lawyer Dog.
BoobJiggle
I got the reference, but I can't do a lawyer dog. Best I can do is a legal eagle
Malus333
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YummyBubb1es
That judge should be disbarred for that ruling.
IceKarma
By appointment only.
CaptainThePirate
This is actually what happens. They use pizza and soda, but it is actually what they do.
TeaOverdose
Can you eat the pizza and soda and still say nothing? Coz you never know when they'll feed you next.
middlenameconfusion
So pizza party is the go to solution for cops *and* employers who don't want to give raises. Good to know.
FloodingWaters
HR departments and cops share a common ancestor
DangerBaer
BIC777
It's a day early, but still:
squillis
But what if my name is Karen and I want to speak to the police officer's manager?
FloodingWaters
It can be Shut The Fuck Up Day every day.
BIC777
joepineapplesindrag
It's friday where I am
infinitesimalwonder
This guy has the best ties
OvertleyBadpickuplines
Or the chaotic neutral, you tell them everything. "Well so it started when my dad was on leave in 1968..."
spunnottossed
funone77
Never too early for good advice.
BIC777
4Astaroth
Remember to do this only in the USA and don't be rude in another country thinking you can plead the 5th there. Also just in general don't be rude to cops.
GeminiDreams
They aren't advocating rudeness, just self-control
4Astaroth
I know. I was just saying. There was a rude guy who tried this in the UK and it wasn't nice to watch.
kahldune
Also, in general, don’t be rude.
4Astaroth
Yeah. Or as two heroes put it.
MrHappySmiles
You want court hassles? Blab away, you know you can’t stop.. you want a peaceful life? You Fight The Urge and shut the fuck up…
aguacatedeldiablo
Bingo. I'd probably say something. Fuck my life up. Don't say shit. Maybe say, "I want a lawyer", if you're feeling saucy. Or "I will not speak without my attorney present", even if you don't yet have an attorney (you have a legal, constitutional right to an attorney, so no matter what, you'll have a lawyer on your side - period, it's a guarantee, it may not be the best lawyer, but saying shit isn't gonna help).
Say only what your lawyer says you can say. Period.
cbminecrafter
I hate that this has to be said, but the proper phasing is "i am invoking my 5th amendment right to remain silent and will not answer any further questions until my attorney is present." You need to explicitly invoke your rights and make clear that you are waiting for an attorney. I want a lawyer, where is my lawyer, etc, is too broad, and leaves the door open to argument about intention of the subject and if they actually inviked their right to counsel.
aguacatedeldiablo
There is no magic phrase. You could say exactly that and some of them will still try to deny you an attorney, and some judges will still let them get away with it.
I'm not saying your phrase is bad or wrong, I'm sure it will work in some cases, but there's no phrase that all cops will just honor.
cbminecrafter
True, but you the way I phased it provides a much stronger case if it is denied, since precedent has already been set and upheld that any less specific wording is insufficiently vague for asserting your rights. My point being that I want a lawyer, or just remaining silent are known to be insufficient.
BeastofKnowledge
Is it that time again already?
Fistouille
The irony of Michael Rapaport telling us to shut the fuck up
AShartInTheWind
Fuck Michael Rapaport.
DrunkGermanGuy
"but what if they put the cuffs on you?" - This is a stressful situation, but an even more of a reason to STFU. Nothing you say will get you out of them on the spot. The cops have already made up their mind.
aShogunNamedMarcus
But what if you are losing to J. D. Harmeyer in fantasy football that week?
InsertUnimaginativeUsernameHere
You "Shut the fuck up," I believe.
michaeloberg
Sorry, but as iconic as Michael Rapaport's voice is, his extreme and unwaivering support for Israel's continued genocide against the innocent civilians of Gaza makes him unlistenable to me. The original duo of those two shut the fuck up lawyers is perfect enough without the stain of Rapaport
BeastofKnowledge
You can throw the whole US government under the bus for that sin. I'll help you.
BeastofKnowledge
Because I think bombing hospitals is wrong. I dont really care who's doing it or why.
thedarkcanuck
My only point of contention is that you're under no legal obligation to be polite and respectful to police. Fuck em.
unluckyandbored
While you are under no obligation to be civil to law enforcement, being an asshole is only going to make things worse 9 times out of 10.
wolf96781
I'm not saying you're wrong, but lots of cops get in their feefees when you don't respect their aThOrItAy, and will lash out. Stay safe please
aguacatedeldiablo
You should be polite and respectful as you protect your rights, not because there's a legal obligation, but because your day will be less full of bullshit than if you're rude.
If you have an appetite for bullshit, by all means, fuck 'em.
S33KER
You are polite and respectful, because it says a lot about you as well, don't sink low, you're better than that. And the cop might also be more lenient, which can come in handy.
thedarkcanuck
But you at the very least give them that cold dead glare of contempt right?
BeastofKnowledge
Realistically when you dont respect the fact they can ruin your life or just make it difficult, it kind of encourages them to do so. Cops love being the "Find out" part of "Fuck around". Dont give them an excuse. In fact, dont give them anything. Just. SHUT THE FUCK UP.
casualgenderquestion2718
On the contrary, be polite because they’re unaccountable maniacs with guns. Fuck “saying something about me,” none of that’s important, here’s what is: that guy ostensibly has a license to kill, under qualified immunity. Don’t provoke them.
S33KER
The first part of more of a generalization. It can apply when speaking to your boss, a customer, etc.
casualgenderquestion2718
Yeah, but I’d argue that’s an extension of the principle; your boss and the customer (who can complain to your boss) hold undue power over you. They don’t have physical guns at the draw, generally, but they still have the authority that demands politeness through, primarily, coercive force
Larktonguesinadicecup
Agreed. I don't stand in front of a stampeding bull because I have to show I won't tolerate disrespect.
S33KER
There's a difference between "I plead the Fifth" and "Bitch ass cop, I plead the Fifth"