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TheWeebleWobler
Neither, I run out like the coward I am and pray that god will sort them out.
OokTheMok
The correct answer, as always, is "shoot the hostage".
Cheese302
well children aren't usually allowed in fertility clinics, but i get where this is gong and a good thought process.
Foxplay
The proper response is to just unfriend that person anyway. Who wants to be friends with flat brained dumb-fucks
ThaMunsta
This trolley is weird af
Oracle547
Spreckles450
Let's not kid ourselves here, those kinds of "pro life" people wouldn't choose either option, and would only prioritize their own lives
Froggie243
These self aggrandizing chuds always answer "I put out the fire" to avoid any personal development or empathy.
HedonistBeard
Yeah but admitting that to themselves before being put in that situation can be a lot harder. So they'll find another reason not to answer.
beaubrent
I would take the protein shake instead. Gotta get them gains
SithShodan
You lost them at "thought experiment"
Gemutlichkeit
I haven't read the last few newsletters but I think the GOP stance on this is to drink the embryos and rape the child.
TheVoidListens
I read another of these who said the embreo
cbale2000
I mean, if you swap out the Embryos for a Senior Citizen in this scenario you would also choose the child. Are old people not human?
untidyhayloft
Would you choose the child over a thousand elderly people? Though I do think the above thought experiment is fairly flawed. /1
The point they are trying to make is that if embryos are children choosing to save 1,000 vs. saving 1. Should be an easy choice. /2
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Thing is even if you don't believe embryos are children it still makes more sense to save them.
Hefelump
Checkmate
MacDinero
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
It doesn't matter when life begins. That is a distraction, and you can in good faith tell anyone bringing it up to fuck right off.
sexysexyjesus
https://www.tiktok.com/@markarchambault89/video/7112111992520985899?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7121836181570930219
Vallete
You are kidnapped and someone hooks you up to another person who needs dialysis. Only for 9 months, do you unplug yourself?
trackeroc
Stop protecting these people by censoring their names. Or is this entire thing fake?
3nd3rwiggin
Recent one I thought of... You believe in gun ownership and the right to defend your home correct? +
So if there was an intruder in your home you have the right to use deadly force to make them leave, agreed?
So if a woman has an intruder in her body, she has the right to use deadly force to remove them correct?
WesVTX
Prohibiting abortion is the same as forced organ and tissue donation, except the latter can happen to men. Easier thought experiment.
mikeymikec
I'm sorry, but that's not a very good answer from a pro-lifer, that just potentially makes more potential lives.
thatwoodguy
I thought experiment would assume these people have critical thinking skills. They would accidentally shoot themselves and died in the ensui
ScottishRoss
My brother tried to convince me he'd pick the foetuses. And we're British. Liar.
LOL now I wanna see someone run out holding a thousand dead fetuses.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Embryos, in this situation.
Good point
Sheller153
Foetus sounds like the unborn child of your nemesis
trs1
Friend Of Everyone in The United States
dank69
We can do better: would you rather slap a 3yo hard in the face (no death) or light a tray of embryos on fire? *
JadeNB1729
zenxan
How about, sever one of your own child's fingers, pinky is fine, or destroy the tray of embryos?
* Also it is important to remember that when life begins or how valuable it is at different stages it is all moot to the abortion debate. 1/
Even if we grant full rights of personhood to the embryo none of it supersedes another person's right to bodily autonomy. 2/
It's why we cannot be forced to donate blood, even to save a life. It's why we can't harvest organs from dead people without 3/
their express written consent. If a baby could somehow crawl inside another person and leech nutrients you would be within your rights 4/
to use deadly force to stop it. 5/5
DroppedLens
Can I slap a 3 year old with a flaming tray of embryos?
Probably not in this country. It is frowned upon.
Oddtom6
The embryos aren’t going to suffocate fam
MikeF1982
no but smoke damage is no joke. it gets into EVERYTHING. The smoke would most likely damage them beyond use.
executivedisfunction
Embryos are kept at liquid nitrogen temps, zero chance any smoke penetrates the container. More risk just touching it without proper gloves.
Your flesh is cold welded to the container, and frost bite is penetrating every second your hands are in contact. Expect crippled hands.
Attaroo
And about 40-50% of fertilized eggs are flushed or otherwise don't become children. God sure loves his abortion.
caledric
You can really fuck up their though process by mentioning 5 of the embryos come from a black woman... the child is asian.
lukelorian
It's sad they think this preserves the white race when it's actually more likely black woman are affected
putcleverusernamehere
"thought process" LOL
venom181st
Imalwaysready
And even though he's male, he seems awfully 'effeminate' in the 2 seconds you've seen him. Plus, some of the embryos may be here illegally.
herooftime9000
?! I love it!
OKSasquatch
One of those embryos will be the next Hitler and grow up to slaughter millions.
kodiak931155
Remember kids. Ending human lives is the most effective climate change activity a person can partake in
ArcaneEyes
Oh god I'd forgotten about this absolutely atrocious piece of logic slaughter, thank you for reminding me.
Any time :)
yalczero
Won't work. They'll just ask "Which one?" and try to save just it.
Themanwithathousanddongs
This one made me laugh out loud
PrinceOfWhales
"You spy twin infants and a container of 1,000 frozen embryos. You choose"
"don't you little shits know how to team lift? Let's go!"
SpaceballsTheComment
I need more information. How am I supposed to figure out which one is lying?
mustardburp
best be quick or a well endowed crystal juggling man with Tina Turner's haircut circa Thunderdome will make you smell like poo for eternity
Eldibs
You just ask them what the other would say, and then do the opposite.
LokiShinigami
Good thought experiment, but even a terrified 5yo can walk perfectly fine on their own. A 3yo would be more believable in the scenario.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
https://i.imgur.com/5HDtPPL.null
Shaodyn
Assume, for the sake of argument, that the child has a leg injury that prevents it from walking fast enough to escape.
FuDang
What is a 5yo OR a 3yo doing next to specimens at a fertility clinic? It's just a thought experiment, as stated.
phoenixaddams
Doing a heist
mistermixelpix
You've obviously never dealt with children in an emergency.
CantStopTheRock
Or when asked to do something
purdhapley
Or just in general.
DoctorWhoandDallasCowboys
Have you? Because I have. Children in a real emergency (such as a fire) cling to and follow adults. Kids sense the difference between..1/?
“Hurry up we’re going to be late” and “run for your life” We had ~60 3-4yos on the playground when we heard gun fire in the neighborhood 2/?
The kids understood, felt, sensed (whatever) the urgency to follow us and run into the building. We also had a real fire the year before 3/3
I've worked fire rescue, and hazmat. You'd be suprised what children are capable of when someone calm is with them.
Frankiejoneston
Have the child pick up the container then you pick up the child. If the child drops it and it smashes, it's the child's fault not yours.
syntheticgod8
This child is going to be able to pick up something that's at least as large and cumbersome as herself? I think not, Spiderman.
HeadJamistan
Thank you for my first out loud laugh of the day, you sick fuck. +1
Toffeeaccident
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
A true capitalist would hire the child to rescue the container while saving himself.
DaveDreamsOfDumplings
Don't forget you can't leave the child with the bag of corn...
alRakoun
Very Talmudic.
MyOldUserNameMeantUndeadCocaineButNowItsThis
horizontal thinking.
Moonadon
If you leave the child alone with the container the child will eat the embryos
TZO2k15
Or you can pick up both, if a 5yr old can hold the eggs, so can a grown adult!
MyNameIsBlood
Scezumin
how dare you think critically
georgedragonslayer
But what to do about the alligator and the frog?
there was a scorpion on top the frog on top the alligator. plausible deniability, yo
DameDePiques
Then you can put the child in prison for mass-murder.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
This is what we call a "Conservative Bingo".
cwblackandyellow
The American Dream, folks
mondeca
The child is sentenced to die in a fertility clinic fire. The cycle continues.
ItsLiveNotLive
Just send them to school where they will be inevitably executed by volunteer firing squad
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Death penalty? Just send them to school.
Behotti
NickRivieraMD
it's the problem with trolley problems, there's always another option
TheZommie
https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*mR37PSc2JEcCF-FkM10tDA.jpeg
Burke616
usersayswhat
Wait but is there a trolley problem-problem trollly.... Troll.. Wait I get it now!
lvpainting
There literally aren't any other options in the trolley problem. It's right there in the rules
right, but fuck the rules, is the point
idiotcube
If you came up with a way to circumvent the rules, someone else could come up with a new problem that accounts for it. It's a hypothetical >
scenario meant to make you examine your moral standings, not a game or test you need to "win" at.
TheWeebleWobler
Neither, I run out like the coward I am and pray that god will sort them out.
OokTheMok
The correct answer, as always, is "shoot the hostage".
Cheese302
well children aren't usually allowed in fertility clinics, but i get where this is gong and a good thought process.
Foxplay
The proper response is to just unfriend that person anyway. Who wants to be friends with flat brained dumb-fucks
ThaMunsta
This trolley is weird af
Oracle547
Spreckles450
Let's not kid ourselves here, those kinds of "pro life" people wouldn't choose either option, and would only prioritize their own lives
Froggie243
These self aggrandizing chuds always answer "I put out the fire" to avoid any personal development or empathy.
HedonistBeard
Yeah but admitting that to themselves before being put in that situation can be a lot harder. So they'll find another reason not to answer.
beaubrent
I would take the protein shake instead. Gotta get them gains
SithShodan
You lost them at "thought experiment"
Gemutlichkeit
I haven't read the last few newsletters but I think the GOP stance on this is to drink the embryos and rape the child.
TheVoidListens
I read another of these who said the embreo
cbale2000
I mean, if you swap out the Embryos for a Senior Citizen in this scenario you would also choose the child. Are old people not human?
untidyhayloft
Would you choose the child over a thousand elderly people? Though I do think the above thought experiment is fairly flawed. /1
untidyhayloft
The point they are trying to make is that if embryos are children choosing to save 1,000 vs. saving 1. Should be an easy choice. /2
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
Thing is even if you don't believe embryos are children it still makes more sense to save them.
Hefelump
Checkmate
MacDinero
IHateYouMyselfAndEveryone
It doesn't matter when life begins. That is a distraction, and you can in good faith tell anyone bringing it up to fuck right off.
sexysexyjesus
https://www.tiktok.com/@markarchambault89/video/7112111992520985899?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7121836181570930219
Vallete
You are kidnapped and someone hooks you up to another person who needs dialysis. Only for 9 months, do you unplug yourself?
trackeroc
Stop protecting these people by censoring their names. Or is this entire thing fake?
3nd3rwiggin
Recent one I thought of... You believe in gun ownership and the right to defend your home correct? +
3nd3rwiggin
So if there was an intruder in your home you have the right to use deadly force to make them leave, agreed?
3nd3rwiggin
So if a woman has an intruder in her body, she has the right to use deadly force to remove them correct?
WesVTX
Prohibiting abortion is the same as forced organ and tissue donation, except the latter can happen to men. Easier thought experiment.
mikeymikec
I'm sorry, but that's not a very good answer from a pro-lifer, that just potentially makes more potential lives.
thatwoodguy
I thought experiment would assume these people have critical thinking skills. They would accidentally shoot themselves and died in the ensui
ScottishRoss
My brother tried to convince me he'd pick the foetuses. And we're British. Liar.
TheWeebleWobler
LOL now I wanna see someone run out holding a thousand dead fetuses.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Embryos, in this situation.
ScottishRoss
Good point
Sheller153
Foetus sounds like the unborn child of your nemesis
trs1
Friend Of Everyone in The United States
dank69
We can do better: would you rather slap a 3yo hard in the face (no death) or light a tray of embryos on fire? *
JadeNB1729
zenxan
How about, sever one of your own child's fingers, pinky is fine, or destroy the tray of embryos?
dank69
* Also it is important to remember that when life begins or how valuable it is at different stages it is all moot to the abortion debate. 1/
dank69
Even if we grant full rights of personhood to the embryo none of it supersedes another person's right to bodily autonomy. 2/
dank69
It's why we cannot be forced to donate blood, even to save a life. It's why we can't harvest organs from dead people without 3/
dank69
their express written consent. If a baby could somehow crawl inside another person and leech nutrients you would be within your rights 4/
dank69
to use deadly force to stop it. 5/5
DroppedLens
Can I slap a 3 year old with a flaming tray of embryos?
dank69
Probably not in this country. It is frowned upon.
Oddtom6
The embryos aren’t going to suffocate fam
MikeF1982
no but smoke damage is no joke. it gets into EVERYTHING. The smoke would most likely damage them beyond use.
executivedisfunction
Embryos are kept at liquid nitrogen temps, zero chance any smoke penetrates the container. More risk just touching it without proper gloves.
executivedisfunction
Your flesh is cold welded to the container, and frost bite is penetrating every second your hands are in contact. Expect crippled hands.
Attaroo
And about 40-50% of fertilized eggs are flushed or otherwise don't become children. God sure loves his abortion.
caledric
You can really fuck up their though process by mentioning 5 of the embryos come from a black woman... the child is asian.
lukelorian
It's sad they think this preserves the white race when it's actually more likely black woman are affected
putcleverusernamehere
"thought process" LOL
venom181st
Imalwaysready
And even though he's male, he seems awfully 'effeminate' in the 2 seconds you've seen him. Plus, some of the embryos may be here illegally.
herooftime9000
?! I love it!
OKSasquatch
One of those embryos will be the next Hitler and grow up to slaughter millions.
kodiak931155
Remember kids. Ending human lives is the most effective climate change activity a person can partake in
ArcaneEyes
Oh god I'd forgotten about this absolutely atrocious piece of logic slaughter, thank you for reminding me.
kodiak931155
Any time :)
yalczero
Won't work. They'll just ask "Which one?" and try to save just it.
Themanwithathousanddongs
This one made me laugh out loud
PrinceOfWhales
"You spy twin infants and a container of 1,000 frozen embryos. You choose"
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
"don't you little shits know how to team lift? Let's go!"
SpaceballsTheComment
I need more information. How am I supposed to figure out which one is lying?
mustardburp
best be quick or a well endowed crystal juggling man with Tina Turner's haircut circa Thunderdome will make you smell like poo for eternity
Eldibs
You just ask them what the other would say, and then do the opposite.
LokiShinigami
Good thought experiment, but even a terrified 5yo can walk perfectly fine on their own. A 3yo would be more believable in the scenario.
JustLettingPeopleBeWrong
https://i.imgur.com/5HDtPPL.null
Shaodyn
Assume, for the sake of argument, that the child has a leg injury that prevents it from walking fast enough to escape.
FuDang
What is a 5yo OR a 3yo doing next to specimens at a fertility clinic? It's just a thought experiment, as stated.
phoenixaddams
Doing a heist
mistermixelpix
You've obviously never dealt with children in an emergency.
CantStopTheRock
Or when asked to do something
purdhapley
Or just in general.
DoctorWhoandDallasCowboys
Have you? Because I have. Children in a real emergency (such as a fire) cling to and follow adults. Kids sense the difference between..1/?
DoctorWhoandDallasCowboys
“Hurry up we’re going to be late” and “run for your life” We had ~60 3-4yos on the playground when we heard gun fire in the neighborhood 2/?
DoctorWhoandDallasCowboys
The kids understood, felt, sensed (whatever) the urgency to follow us and run into the building. We also had a real fire the year before 3/3
LokiShinigami
I've worked fire rescue, and hazmat. You'd be suprised what children are capable of when someone calm is with them.
Frankiejoneston
Have the child pick up the container then you pick up the child. If the child drops it and it smashes, it's the child's fault not yours.
syntheticgod8
This child is going to be able to pick up something that's at least as large and cumbersome as herself? I think not, Spiderman.
HeadJamistan
Thank you for my first out loud laugh of the day, you sick fuck. +1
Toffeeaccident
welluhwhatdoyouwantmetosay
A true capitalist would hire the child to rescue the container while saving himself.
DaveDreamsOfDumplings
Don't forget you can't leave the child with the bag of corn...
alRakoun
Very Talmudic.
MyOldUserNameMeantUndeadCocaineButNowItsThis
horizontal thinking.
Moonadon
If you leave the child alone with the container the child will eat the embryos
TZO2k15
Or you can pick up both, if a 5yr old can hold the eggs, so can a grown adult!
MyNameIsBlood
Scezumin
how dare you think critically
georgedragonslayer
But what to do about the alligator and the frog?
mustardburp
there was a scorpion on top the frog on top the alligator. plausible deniability, yo
DameDePiques
Then you can put the child in prison for mass-murder.
TheJudgeHasItBackwards
This is what we call a "Conservative Bingo".
cwblackandyellow
The American Dream, folks
mondeca
The child is sentenced to die in a fertility clinic fire. The cycle continues.
ItsLiveNotLive
Just send them to school where they will be inevitably executed by volunteer firing squad
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Death penalty? Just send them to school.
Behotti
NickRivieraMD
it's the problem with trolley problems, there's always another option
TheZommie
https://miro.medium.com/max/1400/1*mR37PSc2JEcCF-FkM10tDA.jpeg
Burke616
usersayswhat
Wait but is there a trolley problem-problem trollly.... Troll.. Wait I get it now!
lvpainting
There literally aren't any other options in the trolley problem. It's right there in the rules
NickRivieraMD
right, but fuck the rules, is the point
idiotcube
If you came up with a way to circumvent the rules, someone else could come up with a new problem that accounts for it. It's a hypothetical >
idiotcube
scenario meant to make you examine your moral standings, not a game or test you need to "win" at.