Jun 1, 2016 10:21 AM
CataclysmicFate
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Puppydonk
What if instead theres a single time line, but it can loop back upon itself, where the past happens again, and can be changed now
insertsupercoolusernamehere
The Terminator paradox always bothered me. We are human and perceive a timeline, hence a grown man cannot send his father back to father....
The loop cannot initiate. I understand the concept of non linear time but we experience linear time in our consciousness.
LgndryGentleman
What about the Big Ball of Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Wimey theory?!
SgtEziosRequiem
"Anything can happen, so don't bother trying to explain it."
AnotherStrangerOnTheInternet
The "Harry Potter 3" one is debatable. As it played out for Harry and Hermione, yes. But for time turners in all, it doesn't work that way.
if you want to discuss this point, don't argue in comments. Send me a private message.
kkanne20
MUST PROVENT WWII
PREVENT*, YOU IMBECILE! BACK TO THE SALT MINES WITH YOU!
Damn
GunnerTaz
I'd say Steins; Gate is a way better example of the third one than Star Trek and Terminator.
FOULPLAYGAMES
Misfits is also a dynamic timeline. Simon creates a loop of his future self dying then Alicia dying then him going back in time and dying.
NerdN1
There is a sort of variant on 4 where the broad strokes of time sort of correct themselves. Kill Hitler and WWII still happens without him.
Protean2648
Bananapeel theory
carloeuwd
Unless you are traveling close to the speed of light or if you are somewhere with very high gravity.
MrNozzlelollipops
For what its worth its all three multiverse would have to encompass both previous options by definition of being multiverse
RVer
I thought it was just a big ball of wibbily wobbily.... timey wimey..... stuff
thelunchinator
Or no.1 is the like the film with ethan hawk and the time travelling tranny
thepartypooperscooper
Provent WWII is to allow good air circulation for all the troops.
SirMik003
Theory 4: It is the will of STEINS GATE!
Kallethan
El Psy Congroo
v
Rheios
Hououin Kyouma!!!
lindydanny
Multiverse was also bttf.
YatekMorah
Also, in case of 3rd version, you can return to your original timeline but not by time travel. Some sort of multiverse travel could be used.
GerbilAssassin666
But then wouldn't there be two of you if you returned to your timeline?
There is also version that you erase future when you go back in time, it ceases to exist, that Universe is one timeline only@ Chrono Trigger
candle340
Not exactly, Chrono Trigger is still an example of the multiverse. Those timelines aren't destroyed, but any access travelers would have is.
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Darkness_Beyond_Time.html
It's not exactly destroyed, more like discontinued, frozen, less than dead.
NipsInTheBlender
My favorite part of Harry Potter was when he killed baby Hitler and replaced him with new baby Hitler but new baby Hitler still hated Jews.
MrOfficerJohnMcClane
Heavy. There's that word again. Is there something wrong with the Earth's gravitational pull in the future?
MarcusRiedner
Provent
nerdleslastnerdle
Doctor Who is an example of ALL of these.
SpaghettiBetty
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey
Maetira
Oh hey, number 3. Legacy of Trunks anyone?
Vectorman2
my swim trunks aren't good enough to have a legacy, much less time travel...maybe that's why they don't have a legacy?
AmorphousPorpous
Oh, crap baskets.
LordofSadFace
not exactly, while it actually creates multiple timelines, this one says that you cant go back to your own timeline, thing that Trunks does
It's close enough though to merit the reference, imo.
FrankBrayman
Hey @OP, can you tel me a... BEDTIME PARADOX??
ASlightlyLongerThanAverageName
What happens if Pinocchio says "my nose will grow"
Demauscian
Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself?
frozengloop
I love you for this
Once upon a time travel... Or was it?
ArniePye
What happens if Pinocchio says "my nose will grow now"
Apairofpants
Eh? ...aaahhHHHHHHHHHHHH! Zzzzzz.
XaviersSnakeArm
His nose just falls off. Or the universe rips apart.
A brief moment will occur before the lie takes effect. STILL AWAKE
Kukusk
The next sentence is true. The previous sentence is false.
howToLoseTheGame
Ping pong ping pong
Eh..? AAHH!! zzzzz...
JosAngelGONZO
Well it's official. Y'all successfully typed out a meme/comic strip.
SteveBuscemiSayingHowDoYouDoFellowKids
This sentence is a lie
Fact. Without a period, it is indeed not a sentence. I'M STILL AWAKE, DAD.
You were an accident, son.
dwideshruud
There you go using the word again...heavy...is there something wrong with the earth's gravitational pull?
Voidkeeper
//ico/aakmmllgif????????i.imgur.com/a.a.aaaaqaa
ancientnorseman
Doc! Doc!
Crossulti
It's the Lybians!
1.21 gigawatts!
Great Scott!
Inmate45
Time Travel 4: A clusterfuck mix of all three that makes no sense. As Seen In: Looper.
Itsaidthecharacterlimitforusernameswassixtythreesoithinkthisis
Predestination
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Time Travel 5: We're all stuck and will never be able to do anything about it, time to be sad :(
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
Also Doctor Who.
greatbigglobsofgreasygrimygopherguts
I'll give that movie a pass because of the diagram with straws bit.
And latest season of The Flash!
ItsJustRocketScience
Timey wimey?
CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
And Fringe.
Damndonkeys
Now if Inception and Looper could have a baby... My LSD stock would be worth millions.
WelcomeToTheWasteland
And homestuck
TokensWorth
Time Travel 6: We are all traveling through time, into the future. Slowly. We cant stop, go back, only slow down.
RUBIX3D
We can't even slow down. Time waits for no one.
sampes
Yeah, you can slow down relative to other things, that's what relativity was all about.
Seriously, stay out of the convo if you cant hang with the nerds.
acertainjenesaisquoi
God that movie ending pissed me off. Surely if he killed himself, then the entire events leading up to it would never happen.
vivalacony
Because, in that movie, you can't change the past, only the future. When people travelled back their past became the future.
marmouset
Made for a very effective and hard-hitting scene though
LoneWolfingIt
There's a theory that your personal timeline continues, so he would live with the fact that he killed himself. Seen in Dr. Who
IVIornin
or if the rules work the way they did, why didnt he just shoot off his own hand to make him drop the gun.
itsaravemayve
The part which annoyed me was when they started chopping up Paul Dano. If he has lived a life with all his appendages...just no.
Yeah, that's when it started making no sense and fucking its own time travel theory in the arse.
DaryltheDeathclaw
And I'm glad you're not locked in a room with me.
And if you're going to hack him up then why not just kill him straight away. Do you even think Hollywood?? Do you??
fyndir
Isn't that the opposite of how Back to the Future worked? Marty was at risk of disappearing forever if he didn't fix things he changed.
Tom40
Yeah, I remember Doc explaining divergent timelines something like the multiverse theory.
Then when he eventually got back things were different in a few ways.
NimrodGodoftheSuck
So more like senario 3?
Yeah it seems closer to a mix, because they were able to go back and forth and change things repeatedly to get the present they wanted.
thoushaltnotpass
TBH the time travel theory used in BTFF isn't self-consistent. Take it for its entertainment value
delecti
The BttF movies were primarily comedies, so they play a bit fast and loose with the rules. They're somewhere between 2 and 3.
Rather than just reappearing because the things he changed never got changed after he disappeared.
almightymakerofthings
Fixed TImeline- Game of Thrones
Sprixxen
Also George only sends back a consciousness, not matter in all his stories with time travel so it gets a little less paradoxy. A lot of ->
people don't realize that George was a crazy sci-fi writer first. A lot of that bleeds into ASOIAF (making some think it too is sci-fi).
SnowJay4131
Sci Fi and Fantasy are often grouped together
It's more of a "Everything is just magic and therefore unexplainable" vs." Can we explain this with Clarke's Third Law." 1/2
Also if ASOIAF is sci-fi it really changes the scope of the series. The anti-war, anti-fanaticism, and general "love over war" message ->
There is also Dr Who where time is semi-changeable, but messing with important fixed points can "punch a hole in the universe" which is bad.
VonSnootingham
Dr. Who has no real theory on time travel. It's just mucking about with no real consistency or sense. Fun to watch, but complete nonsense.
ExperimentKraj
I think you meant to say "There is also Dr. Who, where nothing about the time travel makes the smallest amount of sense."
"And all solutions to problems are total ass-pulls."
In universe I believe the rules make sense but not to any mind that can't withstand looking at every possible outcome of every action(1)
simultaneously. I.E. The Gallifreyan 8 year old birthday gift. And by "withstand" I mean not burn up in flame, as seems to be the human (2)
reaction. In real life, yeah- pretty much the only issue that plagues episodic series that last as long as DW. The rules change for the plot
Puppydonk
What if instead theres a single time line, but it can loop back upon itself, where the past happens again, and can be changed now
insertsupercoolusernamehere
The Terminator paradox always bothered me. We are human and perceive a timeline, hence a grown man cannot send his father back to father....
insertsupercoolusernamehere
The loop cannot initiate. I understand the concept of non linear time but we experience linear time in our consciousness.
LgndryGentleman
What about the Big Ball of Wibbly-Wobbly Timey-Wimey theory?!
SgtEziosRequiem
"Anything can happen, so don't bother trying to explain it."
AnotherStrangerOnTheInternet
The "Harry Potter 3" one is debatable. As it played out for Harry and Hermione, yes. But for time turners in all, it doesn't work that way.
AnotherStrangerOnTheInternet
if you want to discuss this point, don't argue in comments. Send me a private message.
kkanne20
MUST PROVENT WWII
SgtEziosRequiem
PREVENT*, YOU IMBECILE! BACK TO THE SALT MINES WITH YOU!
kkanne20
Damn
GunnerTaz
I'd say Steins; Gate is a way better example of the third one than Star Trek and Terminator.
FOULPLAYGAMES
Misfits is also a dynamic timeline. Simon creates a loop of his future self dying then Alicia dying then him going back in time and dying.
NerdN1
There is a sort of variant on 4 where the broad strokes of time sort of correct themselves. Kill Hitler and WWII still happens without him.
Protean2648
Bananapeel theory
carloeuwd
Unless you are traveling close to the speed of light or if you are somewhere with very high gravity.
MrNozzlelollipops
For what its worth its all three multiverse would have to encompass both previous options by definition of being multiverse
RVer
I thought it was just a big ball of wibbily wobbily.... timey wimey..... stuff
FOULPLAYGAMES
Misfits is also a dynamic timeline. Simon creates a loop of his future self dying then Alicia dying then him going back in time and dying.
thelunchinator
Or no.1 is the like the film with ethan hawk and the time travelling tranny
thepartypooperscooper
Provent WWII is to allow good air circulation for all the troops.
SirMik003
Theory 4: It is the will of STEINS GATE!
Kallethan
El Psy Congroo
SirMik003
Rheios
Hououin Kyouma!!!
lindydanny
Multiverse was also bttf.
YatekMorah
Also, in case of 3rd version, you can return to your original timeline but not by time travel. Some sort of multiverse travel could be used.
GerbilAssassin666
But then wouldn't there be two of you if you returned to your timeline?
YatekMorah
There is also version that you erase future when you go back in time, it ceases to exist, that Universe is one timeline only@ Chrono Trigger
candle340
Not exactly, Chrono Trigger is still an example of the multiverse. Those timelines aren't destroyed, but any access travelers would have is.
YatekMorah
https://www.chronocompendium.com/Term/Darkness_Beyond_Time.html
YatekMorah
It's not exactly destroyed, more like discontinued, frozen, less than dead.
NipsInTheBlender
My favorite part of Harry Potter was when he killed baby Hitler and replaced him with new baby Hitler but new baby Hitler still hated Jews.
MrOfficerJohnMcClane
Heavy. There's that word again. Is there something wrong with the Earth's gravitational pull in the future?
MarcusRiedner
Provent
nerdleslastnerdle
Doctor Who is an example of ALL of these.
SpaghettiBetty
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey
Maetira
Oh hey, number 3. Legacy of Trunks anyone?
Vectorman2
my swim trunks aren't good enough to have a legacy, much less time travel...maybe that's why they don't have a legacy?
AmorphousPorpous
Oh, crap baskets.
LordofSadFace
not exactly, while it actually creates multiple timelines, this one says that you cant go back to your own timeline, thing that Trunks does
Maetira
It's close enough though to merit the reference, imo.
FrankBrayman
Hey @OP, can you tel me a... BEDTIME PARADOX??
ASlightlyLongerThanAverageName
What happens if Pinocchio says "my nose will grow"
Demauscian
Does the set of all sets that do not contain themselves contain itself?
frozengloop
I love you for this
CataclysmicFate
Once upon a time travel... Or was it?
ArniePye
What happens if Pinocchio says "my nose will grow now"
Apairofpants
Eh? ...aaahhHHHHHHHHHHHH! Zzzzzz.
XaviersSnakeArm
His nose just falls off. Or the universe rips apart.
FrankBrayman
A brief moment will occur before the lie takes effect. STILL AWAKE
Kukusk
The next sentence is true. The previous sentence is false.
howToLoseTheGame
Ping pong ping pong
FrankBrayman
Eh..? AAHH!! zzzzz...
JosAngelGONZO
Well it's official. Y'all successfully typed out a meme/comic strip.
SteveBuscemiSayingHowDoYouDoFellowKids
This sentence is a lie
FrankBrayman
Fact. Without a period, it is indeed not a sentence. I'M STILL AWAKE, DAD.
SteveBuscemiSayingHowDoYouDoFellowKids
You were an accident, son.
dwideshruud
There you go using the word again...heavy...is there something wrong with the earth's gravitational pull?
Voidkeeper
//ico/aakmmllgif????????i.imgur.com/a.a.aaaaqaa
ancientnorseman
Doc! Doc!
Crossulti
It's the Lybians!
Crossulti
1.21 gigawatts!
Crossulti
Great Scott!
Inmate45
Time Travel 4: A clusterfuck mix of all three that makes no sense. As Seen In: Looper.
Itsaidthecharacterlimitforusernameswassixtythreesoithinkthisis
Predestination
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
Time Travel 5: We're all stuck and will never be able to do anything about it, time to be sad :(
JamesBluntThatSmartassCunt
Also Doctor Who.
greatbigglobsofgreasygrimygopherguts
I'll give that movie a pass because of the diagram with straws bit.
Vectorman2
And latest season of The Flash!
ItsJustRocketScience
Timey wimey?
CookingBaconDrunkAndNaked
And Fringe.
Damndonkeys
Now if Inception and Looper could have a baby... My LSD stock would be worth millions.
WelcomeToTheWasteland
And homestuck
TokensWorth
Time Travel 6: We are all traveling through time, into the future. Slowly. We cant stop, go back, only slow down.
RUBIX3D
We can't even slow down. Time waits for no one.
sampes
Unless you are traveling close to the speed of light or if you are somewhere with very high gravity.
ItsJustRocketScience
Yeah, you can slow down relative to other things, that's what relativity was all about.
TokensWorth
Seriously, stay out of the convo if you cant hang with the nerds.
acertainjenesaisquoi
God that movie ending pissed me off. Surely if he killed himself, then the entire events leading up to it would never happen.
vivalacony
Because, in that movie, you can't change the past, only the future. When people travelled back their past became the future.
marmouset
Made for a very effective and hard-hitting scene though
LoneWolfingIt
There's a theory that your personal timeline continues, so he would live with the fact that he killed himself. Seen in Dr. Who
IVIornin
or if the rules work the way they did, why didnt he just shoot off his own hand to make him drop the gun.
itsaravemayve
The part which annoyed me was when they started chopping up Paul Dano. If he has lived a life with all his appendages...just no.
Inmate45
Yeah, that's when it started making no sense and fucking its own time travel theory in the arse.
DaryltheDeathclaw
And I'm glad you're not locked in a room with me.
itsaravemayve
And if you're going to hack him up then why not just kill him straight away. Do you even think Hollywood?? Do you??
fyndir
Isn't that the opposite of how Back to the Future worked? Marty was at risk of disappearing forever if he didn't fix things he changed.
Tom40
Yeah, I remember Doc explaining divergent timelines something like the multiverse theory.
fyndir
Then when he eventually got back things were different in a few ways.
NimrodGodoftheSuck
So more like senario 3?
fyndir
Yeah it seems closer to a mix, because they were able to go back and forth and change things repeatedly to get the present they wanted.
thoushaltnotpass
TBH the time travel theory used in BTFF isn't self-consistent. Take it for its entertainment value
delecti
The BttF movies were primarily comedies, so they play a bit fast and loose with the rules. They're somewhere between 2 and 3.
fyndir
Rather than just reappearing because the things he changed never got changed after he disappeared.
almightymakerofthings
Fixed TImeline- Game of Thrones
Sprixxen
Also George only sends back a consciousness, not matter in all his stories with time travel so it gets a little less paradoxy. A lot of ->
Sprixxen
people don't realize that George was a crazy sci-fi writer first. A lot of that bleeds into ASOIAF (making some think it too is sci-fi).
SnowJay4131
Sci Fi and Fantasy are often grouped together
Sprixxen
It's more of a "Everything is just magic and therefore unexplainable" vs." Can we explain this with Clarke's Third Law." 1/2
Sprixxen
Also if ASOIAF is sci-fi it really changes the scope of the series. The anti-war, anti-fanaticism, and general "love over war" message ->
NerdN1
There is also Dr Who where time is semi-changeable, but messing with important fixed points can "punch a hole in the universe" which is bad.
VonSnootingham
Dr. Who has no real theory on time travel. It's just mucking about with no real consistency or sense. Fun to watch, but complete nonsense.
ExperimentKraj
I think you meant to say "There is also Dr. Who, where nothing about the time travel makes the smallest amount of sense."
ExperimentKraj
"And all solutions to problems are total ass-pulls."
Rheios
In universe I believe the rules make sense but not to any mind that can't withstand looking at every possible outcome of every action(1)
Rheios
simultaneously. I.E. The Gallifreyan 8 year old birthday gift. And by "withstand" I mean not burn up in flame, as seems to be the human (2)
Rheios
reaction. In real life, yeah- pretty much the only issue that plagues episodic series that last as long as DW. The rules change for the plot