Throw that vengeful (His words) god's words into anything and they will act on it, evil or no. Religion is a classist tool disguised as wisdom to remove rights and justify wrongdoing. A mass mind control weapon. Nothing more.
I know its never good to wish harm on others. But I do have to ask...how does one grow to tolerate assholes like the pro lifers? I had tolerance in my 20's, I feel I have less and less now in my 30's. There's nothing more I want to do when I hear the dangerous and braindead smenatics they yell, than to smash their heads against the curb repeatedly. WHO! WHO THE HELL, allowed you to prosper.. you who would deny a woman right to body autonomy, or to save herself whenfetus is actively killing her.
I would not wish this scenario on anyone. I hope your heart is almost whole (as a fellow human, there will always be a your son part hole). Thank you for sharing this terrible issue beautifully.
Show no respect to anyone who claims to be "pro-life". They aren't. They just want to control others. They deserve no respect, not even the bare minimum you would give another sapient being.
These prolifers can’t tell you what week the anatomy scan is. What week is it?! Week. 20. You have essentially no way of knowing if your baby is viable or not for TWENTY. WEEKS. Other than some squishy ultrasounds and a heartbeat, you have no real information on their health and if they are developing correctly. Because they are so small until that time. No state should forbid it under 20 weeks.
Forced-birthers & bigots : "wE mUsT pRoTeCt ThE cHiLdReN" - but they're against protecting children from disease, hunger, homelessness, child predators, firearms, etc.
If forced-birth is "gOd'S WiLL," then so is infertility, erectile dysfunction, gray hair, & wrinkles, so how do they feel about having their choice taken away for things like in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, ED pills, hair dye, & vain cosmetic surgeries?
I hope that sick freak that assassinated the doctor will die a horrible torturous painful as fuck death, and I hope it lasts and lasts. He deserves to suffer until his last breath.
The pro-lifer who protest abortion have no problem killing people while protesting something they don’t really understand. This personal account had me in tears and I am just a man who will never be in that situation but I felt her heartache at why she had to go through it all. Pro-lifers can’t feel that.
My mother couldn't have children, older boomer that didn't have any sex ed growing up. She honestly didn't know that many women who have been pregnant have at least one unviable pregnancy and need a dnc to remove the embyo or it would kill them. I have a huge extended family, all the women had 4 - 6 kids each and I truly believe none of them ever discussed what happens when you "lose a pregnancy:
But women do talk about this with each other, and always have. In private. Every woman I am close to who has had a child has also had at least one miscarriage that they are aware of. Those "late periods" are often merciful spontaneous abortions that otherwise would result in the situation described in this post.
The right to bodily autonomy and abortion should never be up for debate. The answer is always YES, period. Your body, your choice in the end. This needs to be not only codified, but written into law, and part of the Amendments.
I remember hearing about Dr. Killers murder when it happened. I despised Fox News because they were complicit in his death. They repeatedly rage baited people and called him 'Tiller the baby killer'.
I’m glad other people are finally speaking out about how awful it is to get an abortion because Idk what delusion “pro-lifers” are under but no woman makes that decision without struggling immensely and suffering severe inner turmoil. If they truly cared about the fetuses, then why aren’t there signs saying they’ll pay the medical expenses or adopt these unwanted children? It’s because they don’t truly care about anyone’s life and it’s just an excuse to spread hatred
As a dude, I couldn't even read past half of that story. I couldn't imagine having something like that happen. To become so attached only to hear how hopeless the situation was. Having to make that kind of choice would be devastating. And then, to add insult to injury, having a bunch of pro-lifers shun and judge you for making that critical choice. It's agonizing even to read.
That is why it is so important to get people talking about and discussing the nuance of situations.
Abortive care and the establishment of Roe v Wade as legal doctrine was praised even by conservative groups. It is only an issue today as politicians needed a new hook and with the complexity of the topic misconceptions about it were easily spread. This tactic is also the reason for the attacks on the trans community.
I really wish that people would seek understanding before accusation.
This story makes me glad Mom had abortion access when she found out a fetus was incompatible with life. She chose to spare that much wanted child a short life of agony and to spare my sister and me the horrors of watching the baby die.
Fuck those who overturned RvW. Fuck you if you are blindly antichoice and insist you know what is right for everyone. I hope you choke on your bullshit.
Yeah, and in my life, my dad was my protector. He had 3 beautiful girls and still voted for Trump. My father literally voted away my right to choose about my body, his daughters bodies. Needless to say, we're low contact.
Vote, get your friends to vote, it's hard, everyone resists or is 'too busy' but we've got to push back as a whole are fall as a whole. they're gaining power in other countries too, not just ours, It's bad.
pro-lifers are just totalitarians that believe god told them it's okay to be totalitarians. there's not a freedom of yours they wouldn't take away if it meant they got to make the world into their world
Having dealt with people like this for decades, it's a mistake to take anything they say at face value. They don't really believe in god or freedom, those are just empty words they toss out randomly.
As always, giving evil people too much credit: they do not "fail to understand," like they're just too goshdarn slow and can't figure out fancy book-learnin'. They *deliberately avoid understanding* because they *want to hurt people.*
You can tell the people that *actually* want to reduce abortions from those that just want to hurt women because the people that want less abortions all vote democrat and support sex ed and contraceptive access.
No matter how ignorant they claim to be anyone who's anti-choice doesn't care one wit about abortions. They're just using ignorance as a shield because saying "I don't know how abortions work" is socially acceptable in a way that saying "I want women to bleed to death" isn't.
I think it's both. There are certainly the leaders who just want a wedge issue. They don't care. And the ones who want to control woman, want to cause pain.
But there are also the propaganda victims, who really belief the bullshit.
Those propaganda victims could spend 5 minutes researching and see that banning abortions do NOT reduce abortion rights. Right wing politics do NOT reduce abortion rates. Universal healthcare, federal 1 year maternity leave, childcare assistance, and most importantly comprehensive sex ed and free access to contraceptives all DO decrease abortion rates. If a person is pro life, but not fighting for those, their opinion is worthless.
There are also people who just stop thinking once they have enough of an answer. If they gave any situation just 5 more minutes of solid thought they'd get to the answer the rest of us did, but they don't. My uncle was pissed about the Harry Potter books. His main issue was that someone told him the main characters keep getting into trouble & kept getting forgiven and he found that unacceptable. I pointed out that it sounded similar to another book I'd heard of & he changed his mind.
rbudrick
Throw that vengeful (His words) god's words into anything and they will act on it, evil or no. Religion is a classist tool disguised as wisdom to remove rights and justify wrongdoing. A mass mind control weapon. Nothing more.
doctorId
If they could comprehend complexity they wouldn't reject the entirety of scientific knowledge to just say "God does everything".
blackguard89
I know its never good to wish harm on others. But I do have to ask...how does one grow to tolerate assholes like the pro lifers? I had tolerance in my 20's, I feel I have less and less now in my 30's. There's nothing more I want to do when I hear the dangerous and braindead smenatics they yell, than to smash their heads against the curb repeatedly. WHO! WHO THE HELL, allowed you to prosper.. you who would deny a woman right to body autonomy, or to save herself whenfetus is actively killing her.
yokwe
That was a roller coaster.
shanasphone350
I would not wish this scenario on anyone. I hope your heart is almost whole (as a fellow human, there will always be a your son part hole). Thank you for sharing this terrible issue beautifully.
anjeleyezjr
Show no respect to anyone who claims to be "pro-life". They aren't. They just want to control others. They deserve no respect, not even the bare minimum you would give another sapient being.
2020Survivor
These prolifers can’t tell you what week the anatomy scan is. What week is it?! Week. 20.
You have essentially no way of knowing if your baby is viable or not for TWENTY. WEEKS. Other than some squishy ultrasounds and a heartbeat, you have no real information on their health and if they are developing correctly. Because they are so small until that time.
No state should forbid it under 20 weeks.
OperatorWay
Forced-birthers & bigots : "wE mUsT pRoTeCt ThE cHiLdReN" - but they're against protecting children from disease, hunger, homelessness, child predators, firearms, etc.
If forced-birth is "gOd'S WiLL," then so is infertility, erectile dysfunction, gray hair, & wrinkles, so how do they feel about having their choice taken away for things like in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, ED pills, hair dye, & vain cosmetic surgeries?
enkrypt3d
i hate this is formatted in 300 tweets...
ywmqm
I have a list of things like this my mother is going to have to look at and respond to before I let her back into my life.
Oatmealman1
I hope that sick freak that assassinated the doctor will die a horrible torturous painful as fuck death, and I hope it lasts and lasts. He deserves to suffer until his last breath.
USvette1
We should all be allowed to make our own choices without some else interfering.
samurai77
Conservative fuck wits get angry at things they don't understand, and they don't understand much.
ForPriestSake
Crazy that a pro lifer hunted down a killed someone in a church. Make it make sense
johnvilnis
The pro-lifer who protest abortion have no problem killing people while protesting something they don’t really understand.
This personal account had me in tears and I am just a man who will never be in that situation but I felt her heartache at why she had to go through it all.
Pro-lifers can’t feel that.
tallyhoho
My mother couldn't have children, older boomer that didn't have any sex ed growing up. She honestly didn't know that many women who have been pregnant have at least one unviable pregnancy and need a dnc to remove the embyo or it would kill them. I have a huge extended family, all the women had 4 - 6 kids each and I truly believe none of them ever discussed what happens when you "lose a pregnancy:
Plasmodesmata
But women do talk about this with each other, and always have. In private. Every woman I am close to who has had a child has also had at least one miscarriage that they are aware of. Those "late periods" are often merciful spontaneous abortions that otherwise would result in the situation described in this post.
tallyhoho
I dint think they did in the older generations, are you 75+?
cousteau
It's not pro-life, it's anti-choice.
purgruv
Damn, that read like Margaret Atwood had written it. So intimate and intense.
Imadethisaccounttopost
The right to bodily autonomy and abortion should never be up for debate.
The answer is always YES, period.
Your body, your choice in the end.
This needs to be not only codified, but written into law, and part of the Amendments.
Kemi337
Bill O'Reilly is the piece of fucking garbage that got Dr. Tiller killed.
ionicseraph
I remember hearing about Dr. Killers murder when it happened. I despised Fox News because they were complicit in his death. They repeatedly rage baited people and called him 'Tiller the baby killer'.
TalkingSnake
"Tiller Tiller baby killer" - Bill O'Reilly
ionicseraph
*Tiller. Fuck autocorrect.
meganical
I’m glad other people are finally speaking out about how awful it is to get an abortion because Idk what delusion “pro-lifers” are under but no woman makes that decision without struggling immensely and suffering severe inner turmoil. If they truly cared about the fetuses, then why aren’t there signs saying they’ll pay the medical expenses or adopt these unwanted children? It’s because they don’t truly care about anyone’s life and it’s just an excuse to spread hatred
Zahnradfee
This is heartbreaking because of what the family had to go through, and also infuriating because of the murder of the doctor.
TalkingSnake
Kinda want to talk to the cab driver.
Just want to talk.
PraiseAzathoth
As a dude, I couldn't even read past half of that story. I couldn't imagine having something like that happen. To become so attached only to hear how hopeless the situation was. Having to make that kind of choice would be devastating. And then, to add insult to injury, having a bunch of pro-lifers shun and judge you for making that critical choice. It's agonizing even to read.
firestyle3
That is why it is so important to get people talking about and discussing the nuance of situations.
Abortive care and the establishment of Roe v Wade as legal doctrine was praised even by conservative groups. It is only an issue today as politicians needed a new hook and with the complexity of the topic misconceptions about it were easily spread. This tactic is also the reason for the attacks on the trans community.
I really wish that people would seek understanding before accusation.
imjustheretoholdyourhandwhenyoudie
"’Don't worry, he just forgot something. He has to go back to get it, then he'll come back.’ My son was wise.” God damn this broke me a little bit.
ObeeJuanKenobi
Came here to post this. Damn.
Emiloo74
This story makes me glad Mom had abortion access when she found out a fetus was incompatible with life. She chose to spare that much wanted child a short life of agony and to spare my sister and me the horrors of watching the baby die.
Fuck those who overturned RvW. Fuck you if you are blindly antichoice and insist you know what is right for everyone. I hope you choke on your bullshit.
marquettegoldeneagles
Yeah, and in my life, my dad was my protector. He had 3 beautiful girls and still voted for Trump. My father literally voted away my right to choose about my body, his daughters bodies. Needless to say, we're low contact.
NonExistingWisper
datphone777365
Rage. And actions against mythist fuckwits.
hyptosis
Vote, get your friends to vote, it's hard, everyone resists or is 'too busy' but we've got to push back as a whole are fall as a whole. they're gaining power in other countries too, not just ours, It's bad.
KR1570F
pro-lifers are just totalitarians that believe god told them it's okay to be totalitarians. there's not a freedom of yours they wouldn't take away if it meant they got to make the world into their world
ROGUEdenied
People who say GOD told them anything need their teeth slapped out of their mouth. Then committed.
tachyx
Having dealt with people like this for decades, it's a mistake to take anything they say at face value. They don't really believe in god or freedom, those are just empty words they toss out randomly.
firehawkcultist
most "pro-lifers" are fine with abortions when its for themselves/their mistress
Nyxaura
The hypocrisy is deep with those ones
datphone777365
Prolifera should be denied all medical care, let them die how their myth chose them too.
KR1570F
god has a plan for everything except for, apparently, anything humans might invent after the 1800's
datphone777365
" god" didn't give fire to humanity, thats the devils trickery! Fucking dipshits
ROGUEdenied
And that's when it all went "downhill" hehe
InfocalypseRising
As always, giving evil people too much credit: they do not "fail to understand," like they're just too goshdarn slow and can't figure out fancy book-learnin'. They *deliberately avoid understanding* because they *want to hurt people.*
LostCaterpillar
You can tell the people that *actually* want to reduce abortions from those that just want to hurt women because the people that want less abortions all vote democrat and support sex ed and contraceptive access.
No matter how ignorant they claim to be anyone who's anti-choice doesn't care one wit about abortions. They're just using ignorance as a shield because saying "I don't know how abortions work" is socially acceptable in a way that saying "I want women to bleed to death" isn't.
Helixninja333
Cruelty is the point.
DysgraphicProgrammer
I think it's both. There are certainly the leaders who just want a wedge issue. They don't care. And the ones who want to control woman, want to cause pain.
But there are also the propaganda victims, who really belief the bullshit.
Xenarion
This, 100%. Human psychology and society is way more complex than just "good guys and evil guys"
somerandomusernamething
Those propaganda victims could spend 5 minutes researching and see that banning abortions do NOT reduce abortion rights. Right wing politics do NOT reduce abortion rates. Universal healthcare, federal 1 year maternity leave, childcare assistance, and most importantly comprehensive sex ed and free access to contraceptives all DO decrease abortion rates. If a person is pro life, but not fighting for those, their opinion is worthless.
ADDGirl
There are also people who just stop thinking once they have enough of an answer. If they gave any situation just 5 more minutes of solid thought they'd get to the answer the rest of us did, but they don't.
My uncle was pissed about the Harry Potter books. His main issue was that someone told him the main characters keep getting into trouble & kept getting forgiven and he found that unacceptable.
I pointed out that it sounded similar to another book I'd heard of & he changed his mind.