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Aimlockbelch
We’re at the stage where my favorite passage becomes poignant: all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.
J3lek
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OperatorWay
That's why he covered it with a curtain.
Jamnew60
I’m up for throwing some crates of red hats into the harbor!
historycat
It's just about every complaint listed 250 years ago.
Before the end we could repeat the whole list plus some.
orp0piru
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RevRagnarok
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CandleToad
RevRagnarok
LOL more a "note to self" if I were to look at my history weeks/months/years later and wonder "WTF was I talking about?"
Kazpur81S
“From time to time, the tree of freedom….”
theworldcouldbeflat
Yeah but Americans aren't going to do that. This post is literally skipping over the independent judiciary part of the Declaration of Independence so you can blame Trump specifically for 40 years of bad decisions.
OperationBusterJangle
You mean the tree of liberty?
Kazpur81S
Yep. Maybe it was the Bush of Freedom I was thinking about haha
cuttysark
I agree with most of them, however, #2 is not correct. Technically, we voted for our representatives in Congress and therefore have representation wrt taxes.
You are right about the others though.
gesel
That goes down a rather forced rabbit hole. Enough people voted for Trump that he's president so "we voted for" all of this. that's Trump’s position. Whatever he does, we voted for him, we get him.
On the other hand, his import taxes are by decree and contradict the rules and norms of the country. Did we vote for them? I'd argue no, no more than the rest of the project 2025 agenda Trump said he knew nothing about and had nothing to do with.
Hexidimentional
Congress has been actively trying to remove the tariffs tho.
Pally01
Tariffs are a type of tax, imposed without Congressional approval.
buttcreambandit
Came here to say this. It is a tax, put indirectly on us
Fairemont
We vote between, usually, two people put forth by (usually) the very people we dont want to vote for because they (typically) do not represent us.
AgnesGooch
I take your point, but I think there is an argument to be made that by taxing us so unfairly, they are failing to represent us. They are representing the billionaires who own their souls.
OliverOtter
That was NEVER the meaning of those complaints. They were complaining about mercantilism, the idea that the homeland rules its colonies. The complaint about taxes, @cuttysark is right; the compliant was that it was imposed by Parliament, when the 13 colonies had no seats in Parliament, exclusively. "Cutting off trade" was about laws requiring the colonies to sell raw materials TO England, and buy finished goods FROM England, period. Beyond basic blacksmithing to make everyday horseshoes and
OliverOtter
nails, the Colonies COULD NOT have any sort of ironworking equipment. Nor could they shop around. The other two were about British officials being able to impose verdicts on American (but also British citizen) defendants by either holding sham trials, or if they were thwarted in that, by trying them in England before English juries. "A jury of your peers" back then meant that literally; the jury was to be made of your neighbors, and a verdict meant the prosecution had convinced your friends
OliverOtter
and neighbors you were guilty. Not strangers in a far-off land.
AgnesGooch
Well alrighty then.