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This post (let's call it part 1) only covers dogs with life expectancy under 15 years.
Sauce and more info: https://www.familyminded.com/s/dog-breeds-with-shortest-lifespans-5497a1ef327b4fb3
BunnyGoesHopHop
Need to add "Fragrant" to the basset hound description.
Vortaka
“Loud” as well. Years ago I moved to a different unit within my apartment complex to get away from my neighbor’s basset.
Spuduck
I want to know if it has 20 stone pulling power cos my shoulder aint making that mistake again..hello squirrel-goodbye arm
CaptainFlow
Not at all helpful for people looking to adopt, as breed characteristics and individual personality matching the family is most Important
CaptainFlow
It's neatly presented information, can't argue with pictures of dogs! Just not useful or helpful
CNNBRFIINF
This seems like a chart for breeders. Why else put litter sizes? There are much better charts for people wanting to adopt.
angryregistrar
Inaccurate litter sizes at that.
RednapxpandeR
You lost me when they said Boxers are “bright” lol
FredeFuppe
They have big tongues though
itcamefromthesea
I don’t like the green man standing there judging all these good boys. What is wrong with him? Get in there and give them a pet.
BaWitda
Life Expectancy: Never long enough.
thisguy79
Boxers are great dogs but they are certainly not bright. They are such lovable goofballs and idiots, I love them. But they are not smart.
YokkoKurama
Dog by dog basis. I had a GD that was very calm& intelligent. My current GD is slightly hyper and instinctual& sadly more than a bit dumb.
YokkoKurama
Total goofball but sometimes I'm awed by how stupid he can be. (Love him to death though. Thick head, no thoughts)
dtallen243
You don't needs brains if you are cute
Cooter961relaxitsakindofturtle
They can be incredibly smart (my buddy) but are betrayed by the fact that they are perptual kids
YokkoKurama
Big dogs are like big 5 year olds :)
upthehillandtotheright
A lot of these dogs are bigger than shown
BukkakeRider3000
Yeah, my neighbors have black russian terrier. That thing is huge, his head is above my waist.
Ikindawantsoup
A lot bigger
UrbanHerbalist
Just zoom in
bluejolt
Every spinone I've ever seen is significantly taller than the height listed there too. This whole post seems inaccurate
WarlockSniper
Definitely. I had a Bull Mastiff, Boerboel and currently a Mastino Napolitana. Especially the last one. OOF. Fucker is TALL.
onesharedmoment
Agreed. I imagined the green shadow man was Conan o'Brien to put the dogs in perspective more accurately.
atleastfourcharactersinlength
It's still all over the place from dog to dog. Just take out the guy and give a big pic of the dog.
vpdp0001
my male French Mastiff topped out at 167, female was 135
VelvetElvis
Our 8 month old Greater Swiss Mountain Dog weighs 85 lbs already.
toucat
I knew I had to comment when I saw how under represented the Borzoi and Ovcharka were on a standard human outline.
GloriousCoco
I was coming to say that, I live down the street from a saint Bernard owner and his a big boy. Much bigger than pictured
SirrelSquirrel
Black Russian Terrier for one
theywereconesss
My immediate thought when I saw the picture!
SteelyDad
Especially the Presa Canario
pritolus
Bernese Mountain Dog and St. Bernard
squidmissle
It took entirely too long to realize "Family MINDED" was a watermark. My autopilot brain is like "Aww, they're family minded too!"
reverendbonobo
The vast majority of dogs in shelters are mixed breed. I got me a scruffy-faced tripod mutt, and I've never been happier.
jeips
We have a Newf and there's one thing in here that isn't mentioned. Its the drool that gets flung all over teh house, walls, ceiling, curtai
addiemoonbeam00172718
Yup. And if there’s water within a mile radius they WILL find it. My Newfie is usually at least damp
SociallyAwkwardCanadianMoose
Wet dog smell is perpetual i take it?
addiemoonbeam00172718
Always
Haahkis
115 pounds for a bernese mountain dog male is a bit on the low scale... I have a small one and he's heavier than that
TheHyruleWarrior
The Leonberger cannot live more or fewer than 7 years.
fArhUlt
Mine's 11 yrs
AngerMike
More focus on appripriate climate for the dog, i think adopters overlook this alot, like huskies are not well adapted to live in Florida.
Fenrari
The life expectancy is making me sad
CVStp
I wonder if from a dogs perspective we seem immortal. Imagine if our lives would depend on creatures that live 800 years.
Barkinsons
Take a mutt, small-medium size. Less congenital diseases and longer life
YokkoKurama
Is a tiny dog really a dog though? Might as well get a cat if its something under 20 lbs. Ankle biters at best if you're being robbed.
Catterverse
To be fair. These charts are under the average... I have worked in a lot of shelters and can report a lot of these make it well to 14-15
4forensicExpertsSayHiToEveryoneWhoHasBeenWorkingHard
Here for a good time, not a long time.
bobyran
I got teary eyed reading them, then I went back and read the temperament for each one and it made me smile.
stja
Take a mutt. They are almost always healthier and live longer.
forgetthisnoise
My boy's breed only has about a12 year life expectancy but he will be 15 in December.
blubberingbastard
Especially #1 5 years is nothing
Panfake
That‘s what I thought,too.My Mutt is four now...I cannot imagine him dying at only 5 years old oh god that is such a short time!
mopfmopf
me too! I only picked up my friend last year and she's already 10 now :( was her first boat ride today :)
cyborganism
Right? When you're young it doesn't look that short. At ~40 you realize how short that is. I lost a couple of pets already and it's so hard.
md22mdrx
Any dog larger than toy-size is around 10 years. Some a touch over, some a touch under ... but mostly hovering around 10. REALLY large dogs
md22mdrx
are more like 6-8, but you’re talking Irish Wolfhound or Great Dane sized dogs.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
My GSD is 8-10
Kilphd
Not true, plenty of medium to large breeds live 12-15 years
toxichorsepucky
Everyone knows someone who had a 15-18 year old dog and they assume theirs will live just as long but in reality thats almost never the case
md22mdrx
Not many medium sized dogs at 15. 12 is the “touch over 10” that I was talking about. English bulldogs are worse on the lower end too.
md22mdrx
Always an exception to any rule.
AzgarOgly
The thing these charts are missing are typical health problems and typical behavior problems. And man, that is important when you adopt.
earlgirl
Agreed, I thought they were being generous with the English bulldog; so many health problems!
AzgarOgly
That chart looks like advertisement. All goodies are here, every potential problem is a smallprint. On the backside. Of another paper.
earlgirl
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
They definitely are sugar-coating the temperament.... Sharpei, Cane Corso...
AzgarOgly
Or plain lying. Beaurceron, Caucasian Ovcharka are plain dangerous to the family if you are not an expert and really paying attention.
AzgarOgly
Sugar-coating is a right word here. Despite what certain people say, some breeds typical specimen is very far from a family dog //
AzgarOgly
and needs lots and lots of effort and understanding to keep on tracks.
zAllLucky7s
Rhodesian Ridgebacks are great working dogs, but can be bat shit crazy. I mean they used to use them to hunt lions... dog’s are mental
BockrockerX
I can attest that they can have very different temperament. Our female was the biggest sweetheart of a dog. Her rhodie best friend is a nut
BockrockerX
I have noticed that they, like many dogs, very much feed off the personality of their owner.
ThisIsTheBestICanDo
What I need is a chart of the negatives: how loud are they, how difficult to train, prone to health complications?
fluffy4000
Most of these scales are way off. The Rhodesian ridgeback, Harry Potter dragon, is way bigger
DarkSock
I tried picking up one of these big meaty bois once but wound up hunched over yelling “oh Mastiff back!”…
CableGuyLover
If you don't already have kids, I would suggest your girl take a pregnancy test, cause that's some high level dad joke right there
DarkSock
4 kids...
CableGuyLover
mycatToastwasafatasshole
Protip: Unless you live an active lifestyle and have a lot of time for training, don't adopt a 'working group' dog.
YokkoKurama
Then Great Danes shouldn't be in the working group because they're very low energy. GDs don't need a lot of space or constant exercise.
YokkoKurama
They're formerly mastiffs used to hunt boar. But that changed with their temperaments.
CMackthe3rd
No Corgi?
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RadiationNation
I should've clarified that this list covers dogs that live under 15 years
InvalidUserCreator
Hey @op what happened to the Borzoi in the picture? He looks weird...
spazzygc
These temperament descriptions are rather useless, aren't they? And the groups. And the weight variation being up to 2x the min weight..
FlamingDeathGoat
Yes. How the hell is "majestic" a temperament? Some of these are NOT dogs that do well with little kids.
OtterlyMagnificent
I'd like to add, my sister's Wolfhound is not what I would describe as 'Calm'. I would describe him as lethargic. Also a secret teleporter.
Uhxohr
"regally dignified"
spaceraptorbutt
Yeah, gentle is not how i would describe a Great Pyrenees. Gentle to their flock? Sure! Gentle to anything else? Nope!
beaglefeatures
They sound like they are describing victims of crime or people who did something heroic like saving someone from a housefire.
CNNBRFIINF
Some are flat-out incorrect, such as “bright” for Boxers. Sweet, energetic, playful, but so dumb.
Bigtime365
#wethepeople want the DACHSHuND!!! Where my little weiners at?!?!?!
Harryteeters
If you cut open a Neopolitan Mastiff you'll find pink, brown, and white inside
bullshit
I mean, you're not wrong.
reduglie
You’ll never find brown. Somebody else has already taken it.
TimmyTimm
But please don't
surefang
Everyone knows the humble mutt is clearly best.
Ninjainslippers
Me and my herding dog mutt would agree!
MithridateEupator
Definitely the best option if you want a chill dog that's just down for whatever.
lRogueShadow
Temperament - Dependent on owner & upbringing. They CAN all be good dogs Brent !
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wherearemytesticles
Who let the dogs out?
AxisBond
Yes and no. Obviously upbringing and individual dogs can be different, but different breeds will normally trend certain ways.
displacedgothamist
My #bernese_mountain_dog is definitely not calm. And he’s 118 lbs.
YokkoKurama
My neighbor has one and it is batshit crazy whenever someone comes near the house. Not calm at all.
displacedgothamist
I love my berner beyond belief, but he is definitely territorial. I pity any robber who tries our house.
displacedgothamist
They are not an ideal first dog, they require a lot of training, and it takes three years for them to mellow out. Incredibly loyal. 1/2
displacedgothamist
I liken their temperament to a Rottweiler ... big beasts, lovely dogs, but big presence and protective and territorial.
excepttheoneswhoaredead
Or you could adopt a mutt who will live twice as long
Flutterbutt
Adopting my lil mutt was the best decision I've ever made. No idea what she really is. Rescue said she was dachshund/pit.
anderssondaniel264
Agree. It should be illegal too breed pure dogs with known defects.
mustardburp
Dude, most of these dogs are gourmet dogs, like Michelin starred dogs. Like you'd be obliged to wear a tie to pet one or something.
SuperJusticeWarrior69
My pitbull/lab mutt is about to turn 16, and he is in amazing shape, can still jump into the back of my car and run at dog park
sitchka
And be three times as smart AND be free of species-specific diseases
YokkoKurama
Specific yes, but you trade that for unknown conditions.
strugglebunny3
And unknown temperament.
YokkoKurama
Unknown temperament can come from anywhere. Dogs (from shelters) that suffered abuse I've adopted had issues also.
YokkoKurama
And they don't always tell you if they are abuse cases or have triggers.
SlicedCoffee
I always thought great Danes had exceptionally short life spans, but they're about the same as most of those large/giant dogs.
YokkoKurama
Their lifespan average is skewed by the ones that die from bloat, an issue which can be prevented. All large dogs can get bloat.
Ninjainslippers
My first thought was how short the life expectancies were. I've always had mutts, they regularly get 13-15 good years.
strugglebunny3
Dogs this big have shorter life spans, mutt or purebred!
stja
My pup is 16 and going strong...ish. She had a torn ligament recently, needed her spleen removed a couple years back, her eyesight is [1]
stja
not very good any more, and I'm about 90% certain she's deaf in one ear as she no longer can locate sound reliably. She sleeps most of [2]
stja
the day, sometimes can't hold her pee - but with all that, she's still happy. Will play fetch (for a few minutes at a time), run around [3]
stja
(not very far, fast or long), (try to) jump atop the bed (and succeed with help), go wild(ish) greeting my mom, act like a (tired) puppy [4]
oftenly
Your pup sounds like a total joy!
stja
at weirdest times. The lady may be old, but she aged with style. [5]
Flashezz
Or just adopt overall. Have two rescues myself, but I have no idea what the hell they are.
LuthierVandross
You know exactly what they are. They are special fuckin’ doggos.
Ssemo
Good doggos?
Frostbreaker1
Yep. Title says adopt but you dont adopt these you spend thousands on one from a breeder. Mutts also have way fewer health issues
arauld1976360
I adopted a full blooded Boxer 10 years ago from a rescue. I also have a rescue mutt.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
there are easily dozens to hundreds of breed-specific rescues for any given breed throughout the US
Frostbreaker1
Ah, whoops. I live in Canada. Seems like those are exceptionally rare up here. Never knew they even existed and I've had dogs all my life
Weentit
yeah, basically there are rescues of almost every breed
TeacupCannibal
I adopted my purebred St Bernard from a shelter for $90. She was 2 years old at the time. She's super healthy. My youngest, a full mutt 1/
TeacupCannibal
/2 has the most health issues unfortunately. Allergies and skin problems. I know what you say is typically true, but not always.
Goonit
It happens, but it's kind of the exception on that case. We adopted our GSD from a shelter. She was amazing, but also an exception.
TeacupCannibal
I guess it depends on how far you're willing to go. Apart from really uncommon breeds, you can almost always find a rescue of whatever you/
moondog98
I know a landscaper who adopted from a shelter i volunteer at. Dog is allergic to most grass/flowers/plants. Wonderful dog 10/10 would pet
TeacupCannibal
I am waiting on blood test results on mine. I hope it's not plants!
angryregistrar
People forget unhealthy dogs make unhealthy pups, purebred OR mongrel. And a whole lot of unhealthy mutts get bred too. Love my dogs, but
angryregistrar
they are very expensive trainwrecks of muttness.
IAteTheUnicorns
These photos give no real information. At the very least include energy level since I feel that's the reason people cant handle their dogs
pleaseuseotherdoor
It listed French bulldogs as "smart". I don't trust it.
OtterlyMagnificent
Yep. Especially Great Danes. I had a renter with one. He never walked her, no dog-door so she couldn't get outside to run around in the1/
OtterlyMagnificent
yard, and then wondered why we charged him for the clawed up floorboards and window shades.2/2
CgnCalling
With Great danes Its not low excercise that makes them act up. But lack of social interaction and neglect will do that. -->
CgnCalling
They are extremely family oriented and lack of that will make them sick. Its torture for any dog, but danes truly suffer.
EltaninDracoPwc
I had a neighbor who left their gd alone for a few days, the cries broke my heart.
CgnCalling
Makes my blood boil to even hear that...
MayaMacabre
Each one should have the corresponding health issues and costs. Remember everyone, don't buy from breeders. ADOPT.
knuckledeepinachicken
Remember that adopted dogs frequently came from similar backgrounds and can have massive health issues and costs, too.
Ninjainslippers
My family has had two purebred dogs and they were both problematic. I've loved the mutts I've had as an adult, including now.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Yeah, pugs die by slowly suffocating because their breathing apparatus is so fucked up. And they can't give birth vaginally IIRC.
cattywumpus
some can. But they're a hot mess. French Bulldogs too. A+ personality, D- bodies
Holdmyhectocotylus
There's a huge difference between reputatable breeders who health and temperment test their dogs and backyard breeders who pump out puppies.
Holdmyhectocotylus
I have papers for health screening on my boy for five generations. No elbow or hip dysplasia, no laryngeal paralysis, no eye issues.
Holdmyhectocotylus
Comfort in knowing he will be healthy his whole life barring accident. Adoption and BYB can't guarantee that peace of mind.
Holdmyhectocotylus
I'm not saying don't adopt, I'm all for adoption, but you can't lump all breeders together as bad apples. And a good breeder would never let
Holdmyhectocotylus
One of their dogs enter the system anyways. Good breeders have contracts and if contract is broken they take the dog back home with them.
AzgarOgly
As much as I agree with the first half, so much I disagree with the later. Yes, abandoned dogs should be adopted. But if it is about //
AzgarOgly
looking from the owners perspective, it is absolutely better to take a puppy from the good breeder you know background of. Especially //
AzgarOgly
when it is your first dog. Adoption is always more complicated and you better know what you are doing when you adopt a dog.
SoupFace
My adopted mutt just passed. I’ve always adopted. My boyfriend really wants a bloodhound. He had one before that he adopted from a
SoupFace
Bloodhound rescue. But now we are thinking of getting a puppy from a breeder. I’ve always been against it. Is there a way to know which
bicuriositykilledthiscat
Reputable breeders are working to get the breeds back to full health again by weeding out the bad genetic traits. We've had 5 rescues in /1
bicuriositykilledthiscat
/2 in 11 years. 2 we lost to cancer at 8yrs, 1 to severe hip dysplasia, & 1 to Addison's. Our last of 5 is 7 w/ end-stage lymphoma. We just
bicuriositykilledthiscat
/3 adopted another pup who came from a bad situation but still too young to see health issues. If we do another dog down the road it will
bicuriositykilledthiscat
/4 be from a reputable breeder. We have spent over $60k on dogs in 11yrs & I'd like an opportunity to have a healthy one:(
Holdmyhectocotylus
You're a good person and you deserve all the healthy well mannered dogs :) there's nothing better than knowing your family is healthy
absoluttalent
I don't really have an issue against breeders if they are reputable. But puppy mill breeders are what you should avoid
md22mdrx
This. Breeds & diversity would die out if it weren’t for breeders & those who support them. No issues with breeders though most should adopt
GankSinatra
I more or less stole my dog from a puppy mill.
Evenmorehorrifying
Rescued my ragdoll cat from a mill. It's taken me a year to get him to understand what affection is
Fishwranglergirl
Backyard breeders are a problem too, since they don’t tend to do a lot of research into matching up their dogs.
Fishwranglergirl
Health testing and good genetic lines are extremely important.
Unholytrashpanda
Breeding as a practice is built on inbreeding ? even the best breeders are causing the lines to become too close. Look at comparisons of
Unholytrashpanda
Your favorite breeds today compared to 100 years ago. The differences are startling and health problems are becoming more and more frequent.
PimpinKen
I would argue that the inbreeding issue is more of the AKC and other bodies that set rules on what 'purebred' is for each breed and push >
PimpinKen
for certain traits. Breeders will mostly follow those guidlines to get the most for their dogs
Bobbutnotthatbob
You're getting downvoted not for being wrong, but because people don't like this true thing you pointed out. Inbreeding is bad.
KillerTofu615
Even some reputable breeders are scum, selling sub breed quality animals for hundreds or thousands of dollars.
Outforalark
If they're selling sub breed dogs then they shouldn't be seen as a reputable breeder
KillerTofu615
Unless you're considered a breed expert you can't know what traits are considered a scratch. I've seen animals from shops marketed 1/2
KillerTofu615
as pure bred. My expertise is with Bengal cats as I lived with a breeder and worked with the bloodline. We stopped in a pet shop on a whim2/
PimpinKen
Or they just dump them so they don't hurt the breeders rep. Thats how I got my ridgeback. He was born ridgeless and probably the runt as he>
PimpinKen
Is currently at 75 lbs fully grown and eats 4 cups of food a day. But yea, found the little guy unchipped without a collar on the side of >
PimpinKen
The road at 8 weeks old. Best guess was dumped by a breeder