I have my dad's Male Pattern Baldness and it started materializing in my early 20s. Meanwhile my husband, who's black/Mexican, still has thick dark curls in his mid 30s with just a sprinkle of grey starting to show up.
He may not be the greatest artist who ever was, but he did at least try to be the poet that we always should've sent, and in that way was infinitely better than all the other rich dipshits who've been shot up there combined.
I think Bezos superficial and dismissal attitude towards him/his experience also helped in a sense that it the experience became separate from the Blue Origin stunt itself so to speak and made him take it more to heart. (Completely speculative on my part though.)
Shatner had a powerful emotional reaction. "I wept for the Earth because I realized it's dying," Shatner said. "I dedicated my book, Boldly Go, to my great-grandchild, who's three now — coming three — and in the dedication, say it's them, those youngsters, who are going to reap what we have sown in terms of the destruction of the Earth." https://www.npr.org/2022/10/23/1130482740/william-shatner-jeff-bezos-space-travel-overview-effect
I remember the footage after Shatner landed. He was clearly having a profound moment of clarity and was trying to share that cathartic moment with the camera.
He felt something that day, but Bezos kept interrupting with nonsense billionaire noises and clearly didn’t seem to give a shit beyond “lols, I sent Captain Kirk to space, look at me, cretins!” type reactions he gave throughout. It was sad.
I remember watching that video and being struck by the juxtaposition between Shatner and Bezos. Shatner was visibly emotional, while Bezos was giving off smug "Captain Kirk rode my rocket!" vibes.
Exactly. For Bezos Shatner obviously was just a prop. But Shatner was moved, like many actual astronauts report once they've seen vulnerable Earth from above.
Here's the thing: does Shatner have a bit of an ego? Yes. Is he the raging ego monster that Takei has painted him as for 60 years? Absolutely not. Shatner gets too much work to this day for that to be true. And I've heard that he was quite gracious with fans. The fact is, NO ONE else in the cast has ever talked the way Takei does. He just sounds bitter now. He's not doing anyone any good by holding onto that animosity, especially himself.
Lots of the cast have said (to Shatner's face, even) that they didn't like how he treated them, Takei wasn't unique. And as an aside, I'm pretty sure Takei has put it all to bed and isn't hanging onto the animosity anymore.
Wil confirmed Michael Dorn offered to beat Shatner up over his treatment and acted as a protective older brother. None of this is normal on set behavior and crosses into people hate you for good reasons.
a lot of the cast has called him out over the years so I'm not getting how this is only Takei without intentional omission on your part. Shatner was forced to apologize to Will Wheaton for being a dick to a child on set. At some point live well if you want to be remembered fondly.
Uh.. I remember hearing Nichelle Nichols talk about a time Shatner asked to interview her for a book or something he was working on. She answered all his questions, he thanks her and is about to stand up to leave when she says: hold on, "now let me tell you why I hated you". Although her description made it appear he was completely oblivious to how he hurt people.
He was for sure an asshole before, but I think he's turned that around by now. Not sure if the change happened when he went to space or before that but he seems to be genuinely a better person now.
Racealistic
Glad he's not shatnering himself at least
REOJackwagon
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Hashbrown123
HandoB4Javert
Hashbrown123
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
He Shatner other ones
Audasity
that fuckin guy looks so goddamn good for being NINETY FIVE
leroy666
Genetic Lottery! He won.
ragnafrak
I like him as a person and all- but I'm still jealous of his hair.
Grapeape2000
William shatner's hairpiece https://youtu.be/AicStmOsST4?si=02Q4RhNDqFayIRTI
AtariJaguar64Bit
Jealous of a toupee?
agentcutielocks
Why? It's hair plugs.
MadamPuddifoot
So? It's a full head of hair, a lot of men can't get that either naturally or through purchase.
Rogahar
I have my dad's Male Pattern Baldness and it started materializing in my early 20s. Meanwhile my husband, who's black/Mexican, still has thick dark curls in his mid 30s with just a sprinkle of grey starting to show up.
Lucky handsome bastard. <3
IloveHockey
Why do you like him as a person? ive heard nothing but negative things about him
TexMexHex
I have heard that some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.
LuminoZero
After he took the trip up into space with Bezos, he was powerfully effected by the experience. Look at his comment on it after the fact.
I think it actually had a profound effect on him.
OmenJones
I think that trip to space really changed Shatner. In a good way.
MrAcurite
He may not be the greatest artist who ever was, but he did at least try to be the poet that we always should've sent, and in that way was infinitely better than all the other rich dipshits who've been shot up there combined.
anerdwithaknife
I think Bezos superficial and dismissal attitude towards him/his experience also helped in a sense that it the experience became separate from the Blue Origin stunt itself so to speak and made him take it more to heart. (Completely speculative on my part though.)
Karma1970
Shatner had a powerful emotional reaction.
"I wept for the Earth because I realized it's dying," Shatner said. "I dedicated my book, Boldly Go, to my great-grandchild, who's three now — coming three — and in the dedication, say it's them, those youngsters, who are going to reap what we have sown in terms of the destruction of the Earth."
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/23/1130482740/william-shatner-jeff-bezos-space-travel-overview-effect
Ree81
Ah how nice, he's one of the smart ones. Bet Bezos didn't like that lol.
Robertapril25
I remember the footage after Shatner landed. He was clearly having a profound moment of clarity and was trying to share that cathartic moment with the camera.
He felt something that day, but Bezos kept interrupting with nonsense billionaire noises and clearly didn’t seem to give a shit beyond “lols, I sent Captain Kirk to space, look at me, cretins!” type reactions he gave throughout. It was sad.
idiotsonfire
He'd been changing for the better for a long time.
stronomer
I had the profound impressions that he voiced after that trip were genuine. He seemed deeply moved.
leroy666
Actor!
endem1c
I remember watching that video and being struck by the juxtaposition between Shatner and Bezos. Shatner was visibly emotional, while Bezos was giving off smug "Captain Kirk rode my rocket!" vibes.
stronomer
Exactly. For Bezos Shatner obviously was just a prop. But Shatner was moved, like many actual astronauts report once they've seen vulnerable Earth from above.
crackajackin
Yeah he banged that green chick. I bet that was awesome
Sebastopol140
Maulbert
Shatner gets a bad wrap. One guy spent the last 60 years grinding an axe no one else cares about.
apolyton
wrap?
jridley
He means rap. (which I am assuming you know).
HFlashman
Isn’t it rep?
jridley
https://www.merriam-webster.com/grammar/usage-bad-rap-vs-bad-rep-vs-bad-wrap
jridley
Basically, "rap" is historically correct. "Rap" is a derivation/back construction and is somewhat supported. Only "wrap" is definitely incorrect.
SarcasticComment
when it's one person, it's a matter of opinion. When it's everyone, it's a well established pattern of behavior.
Maulbert
Here's the thing: does Shatner have a bit of an ego? Yes. Is he the raging ego monster that Takei has painted him as for 60 years? Absolutely not. Shatner gets too much work to this day for that to be true. And I've heard that he was quite gracious with fans. The fact is, NO ONE else in the cast has ever talked the way Takei does. He just sounds bitter now. He's not doing anyone any good by holding onto that animosity, especially himself.
herrcane
Lots of the cast have said (to Shatner's face, even) that they didn't like how he treated them, Takei wasn't unique. And as an aside, I'm pretty sure Takei has put it all to bed and isn't hanging onto the animosity anymore.
SarcasticComment
Wil confirmed Michael Dorn offered to beat Shatner up over his treatment and acted as a protective older brother. None of this is normal on set behavior and crosses into people hate you for good reasons.
SarcasticComment
a lot of the cast has called him out over the years so I'm not getting how this is only Takei without intentional omission on your part. Shatner was forced to apologize to Will Wheaton for being a dick to a child on set. At some point live well if you want to be remembered fondly.
wraith203
Uh.. I remember hearing Nichelle Nichols talk about a time Shatner asked to interview her for a book or something he was working on. She answered all his questions, he thanks her and is about to stand up to leave when she says: hold on, "now let me tell you why I hated you". Although her description made it appear he was completely oblivious to how he hurt people.
TK421isAFK
Nichelle Nichols, Leonard Nimoy, and several people who played lesser-known characters have all said Shatner was an egotistical asshole.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
From what I understand, Galaxy Quest did a fairly solid job of nailing the ST TOS cast dynamics.
GeneralAnubis
He was for sure an asshole before, but I think he's turned that around by now. Not sure if the change happened when he went to space or before that but he seems to be genuinely a better person now.
SarcasticComment
rare when Tim Allen is the perfect casting as someone equally as unlikable