Why are Americans so upset that America has to pay for the shit they destroyed? That’s the way it’s supposed to be and good on Iran for pushing trough with this.
Yeah, this is normal when you lose a war. I don't see what all the fuss is about. USA started a war, realised they couldn't win, surrendered, and agreed to terms benificial to Iran, who won.
ending hunger and homelessness doesn't generate kickbacks on military contracts and 300 billion dollars worth of rebuilding money to produce maybe couple billion in actual rebuilding after all the kickbacks. Trump construction co, just formed in Iran today, will be the only contractor qualified to bid on the work
Fortunately unlike Iraq, the US has absolutely no control inside Iran whatsoever after this debacle of a war, so it will be Iranian companies doing all the rebuilding.
The hilarious thing is that it'll go towards rebuilding oil infrastructure, and Russia won't get any help rebuilding theirs and they'll be a worldwide shortage of it for the next couple of decades.
Always has been...US mil/Intel/industrial contractors will get paid premium rates too...they'll call it good for the GDP. Members of trump's cabinet, family and donors will get many of the contracts too. Remember Bush investing/paid by the Carlyle Group $12b? $billions in no-bid contracts to Cheney's Halliburton? $40b all told; Jeb Bush grift? https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/halliburton-contra">balloon/">https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/halliburton-contracts-balloon/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-feb-19-oe-scheer19-story.html 1
And get paid to build and stockpile BRAND NEW MISSILE, DRONES, PLANES, HELICOPTERS, LAND MINES!!! ALL THE THINGS!! no, not healthcare. Fuck you people wanting healthcare. /s
could you provide a citation? this is the first I've heard of it and can't imagine any reason Mexico would pey except to keep the MAGAs out of mexico since the walmard scooter people can't dig or climb
So, this is certainly appalling. But I have to push back on "solve hunger and homelessness" (let alone do this three times.) 50 million Americans routinely experience food insecurity, and 800 thousand are homeless. So if we tackled each problem separately (while another 100 billion greases the wheels of bureacracy.) That is $2000 per hungry person and $125k per homeless person. Actually that second one might work...
This I so agree with. If nothing else, a country with a $1.8 Trillion budget deficit (half of that payments servicing existing debt) shouldn't be lowering taxes. I think we, here, all agree, tax increases should come from the rich and the corporations, but I can see this being a debate for the economics majors. That taxes can't be slashed should be obvious to high school dropouts
The first one too. You just think way to straight forward. Nobody says just give them the money. That would be stupid. You build proper institutions with proper subsidies to both grow and distribute food to people in need.
Everything spend for the Iran war alone would've easily be enough to fix that and properly rework the education system. It's not about the missing ressources it's deliberate neglect.
Not enough soldiers in countries with no desperate undereducated hungry people.
Agree that it's deliberate neglect. (And the military recruitment angle.) Disagree on the rest. You can build a state-run farm (or a public–private partnership? I hope you're not suggesting just chucking more cash at Cargill, because that hasn't worked out so far,) but who is going to pay the operational costs? Now, obviously, Uncle Sam borrowed this money at ~4.5% APR and if they hadn't, there would be $4.5 billion extra, that are currently lost. Is that enough? (Probably not, but don't know)
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Still fighting symptoms rather than cause, but yeah therefore this money could've helped millions out of hunger and poverty.
There is a study that shows that especially working poor mothers are more likely to accept SNAP benefits than direct cash, but that has a whole rats-tail of general societal flaws, on why thats even the case behind it. So I agree.
Stop bombing Iran, free palastine, support ukraine, tax amazon, provide general basic income, save society.
SnowpersonHitInTheFaceWithALackOfCreativity
Will this make fuel prices come down? Probably not
fartharder
This was always going to be the case. Only you can't resurrect the dead.
willpostanything
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lalalalsblablabal
Why are Americans so upset that America has to pay for the shit they destroyed? That’s the way it’s supposed to be and good on Iran for pushing trough with this.
mward1984
Yeah, this is normal when you lose a war. I don't see what all the fuss is about. USA started a war, realised they couldn't win, surrendered, and agreed to terms benificial to Iran, who won.
terryjohnson56
Iran should bleed the US dry and destroy isntreal for the good of the world
yikesaroni
holy shit what a colossal failure
rbudrick
As designed.
PunnyTiger
ending hunger and homelessness doesn't generate kickbacks on military contracts and 300 billion dollars worth of rebuilding money to produce maybe couple billion in actual rebuilding after all the kickbacks. Trump construction co, just formed in Iran today, will be the only contractor qualified to bid on the work
FortifiedWhine
Fortunately unlike Iraq, the US has absolutely no control inside Iran whatsoever after this debacle of a war, so it will be Iranian companies doing all the rebuilding.
StarmineRendezvous
Those are war reparations being reframed.It's accepting you lost the war and are taking responsibility, at least a little bit,to fix things.
thatwoodguy
The hilarious thing is that it'll go towards rebuilding oil infrastructure, and Russia won't get any help rebuilding theirs and they'll be a worldwide shortage of it for the next couple of decades.
EstoyPoopis
The little bitch is paying war reparations already. Merica is so great, so strong.
duktayp
🇺🇸 MISSION ACCOMPLISHED 🇺🇸
MassiveCollisionY
Dolenmorgul
No worries, Musk and Bezos and Zuckerberg will probably chip in ;)
Macwalrus
The shart of the deal
BJWTech
How have I not seen this before!!! Stolen! :)
Macwalrus
Spread the word
Rapbot20
But the DOW....you people think the poor millionaires
UnattendedDeviant
And that's just the deal to discuss getting a deal done in 60 days..lol
Frothington
I can't believe they're trying to frame this as a win.
DrKonrad
Trump does not care. It's not his money, it's your money.
Toqom
Yup,. he's never paid taxes, just stolen tax money
Bundalicious
Amerikkka!!! Fuck yeah!!!
lightfoot2
yep
PhloydPhan
Which doesn't include the US tax dollars that I'm sure will end up being sent to re-build and re-arm Israel....
AgamemnonsMemes
Israel is going to keep bombing lebanon. Part of the agreement is no more bombing lebanon. So the deal is going to fall apart immediately.
michaelfire
Always has been...US mil/Intel/industrial contractors will get paid premium rates too...they'll call it good for the GDP. Members of trump's cabinet, family and donors will get many of the contracts too. Remember Bush investing/paid by the Carlyle Group $12b? $billions in no-bid contracts to Cheney's Halliburton? $40b all told; Jeb Bush grift? https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/halliburton-contra">balloon/">https://publicintegrity.org/national-security/halliburton-contracts-balloon/ https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2002-feb-19-oe-scheer19-story.html 1
Randomice
Don't worry, the rich people will get a tax break for this.
awkungen42
No, not that one, or that one.. nope not that one either, nor that one. Yeah, that one.
75townecoupe
And get paid to build and stockpile BRAND NEW MISSILE, DRONES, PLANES, HELICOPTERS, LAND MINES!!! ALL THE THINGS!! no, not healthcare. Fuck you people wanting healthcare. /s
SheepySleepySmuggler
So Whiskey Pete gets his ED treatment and rich people get a tax break?
YpsilantiRomani
& ownership of the rebuilt property
TheDoctorCrankenstein
Capitalism working as intended.
PunnyTiger
and Mexico will pay for the wall.
azgrak1
Mexico did pay for the wall. But it was under Biden. 1.5 billion and I’m still pissed it wasn’t thrown in cheetohs face every day.
PunnyTiger
could you provide a citation? this is the first I've heard of it and can't imagine any reason Mexico would pey except to keep the MAGAs out of mexico since the walmard scooter people can't dig or climb
VladimirsKacs
So, this is certainly appalling. But I have to push back on "solve hunger and homelessness" (let alone do this three times.) 50 million Americans routinely experience food insecurity, and 800 thousand are homeless. So if we tackled each problem separately (while another 100 billion greases the wheels of bureacracy.) That is $2000 per hungry person and $125k per homeless person. Actually that second one might work...
ignotoCiResto
now add the money of the various tax breaks the ultra rich assholes got and see how much it raise per person.
VladimirsKacs
This I so agree with.
If nothing else, a country with a $1.8 Trillion budget deficit (half of that payments servicing existing debt) shouldn't be lowering taxes. I think we, here, all agree, tax increases should come from the rich and the corporations, but I can see this being a debate for the economics majors. That taxes can't be slashed should be obvious to high school dropouts
NussKnuspermix
The first one too. You just think way to straight forward. Nobody says just give them the money. That would be stupid. You build proper institutions with proper subsidies to both grow and distribute food to people in need.
Everything spend for the Iran war alone would've easily be enough to fix that and properly rework the education system. It's not about the missing ressources it's deliberate neglect.
Not enough soldiers in countries with no desperate undereducated hungry people.
VladimirsKacs
Agree that it's deliberate neglect. (And the military recruitment angle.) Disagree on the rest.
You can build a state-run farm (or a public–private partnership? I hope you're not suggesting just chucking more cash at Cargill, because that hasn't worked out so far,) but who is going to pay the operational costs? Now, obviously, Uncle Sam borrowed this money at ~4.5% APR and if they hadn't, there would be $4.5 billion extra, that are currently lost. Is that enough? (Probably not, but don't know)
VladimirsKacs
I also want to push back strongly on the Father Knows Best bullshit of "you can't just *give* them the money". You can, and unless there are additional complications (such as them being an addict,) you should. Studies show it's one of the most efficient ways of lifting people out of poverty (this, incidentally, is the whole idea behind UBI.)
https://community.solutions/research-posts/learning-brief-on-direct-cash-transfers-types-of-programs-emerging-evidence-and-future-directions/
NussKnuspermix
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Still fighting symptoms rather than cause, but yeah therefore this money could've helped millions out of hunger and poverty.
There is a study that shows that especially working poor mothers are more likely to accept SNAP benefits than direct cash, but that has a whole rats-tail of general societal flaws, on why thats even the case behind it. So I agree.
Stop bombing Iran, free palastine, support ukraine, tax amazon, provide general basic income, save society.