The #1 think I hate about smokers. They seem to think that anyplace on the ground is perfectly fine to throw their butts. You'll see them on the ground immediately surrounding the ash can. I'm in favor of their right to smoke - like any drug - but they fall to respect everyone else's right to not have to smell it, breathe it, nor deal with their garbage.
In some countries, it means the opposite of what most people think in the comments. Something along the lines of : "By law, we are forced to put this no smoking sign, but please ignore it since this place has always been a smoking place, will always be, everybody smokes here, we smoke here, please feel free to smoke here, here is the ashtray."
Back in the day when smoking was allowed in hotels, depending on demand they would flip them quickly into non-smoking rooms with small signs cause they understood that maybe the next guest or just previous one would smoke. It was a “courtesy sign” to make the non-smoking guest feel better and less confusing for housekeeping to remove and place ashtrays
Because some idiots are going to insist on smoking anyway, and a full ashtray is handy proof when they try to contest the smoke abatement charge on their bill afterwards?
This, and also a ashtray full of ashes is way easier to clean compared to what would happen otherwise, which is people leaving their ashes on whatever happens to be handy at the moment: a paper napkin, a coffee cup, on the floor, etc
This. They'd rather someone ignore the No Smoking rule and use the ashtray than someone ignore the No Smoking rule and try and throw their ashes/butts in the trashcan or something.
I worked not so long ago in one of the biggest Premier Inns in the UK and people are that selfish that, just for a cigarette inside, they'd kick the whole damn place out at 12 at night. Rather than go a few minutes outside. I boiled my blood.
Or if they are smart, stay at a dive like where I last worked. Had smoking rooms and non smoking. Didn’t stop folks smoking in the no Smoking ones (which still smelled like a vintage ashtray). Got complaints? Went and put an ozone generator in the room and told them to stay out for a hour on the (smoke filled) casino floor. Heh…
Because they know people are going to smoke anyway and ignore the sign, and it's better for them to have somewhere for the ash to go than just flicking it anywhere.
I assume for the same reasons they keep ashtrays in airplane bathrooms. So when some asshole smokes anyways, he doesn't accidentally set anything on fire putting it out.
Related: There was at least one plane crash thought to be caused by a passenger smoking after the ban on planes. Investigators believe they put the cigarette in the bin in the toilet, but it was still smouldering and turned into an inferno. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_820#Incident
There's not much of a health difference between the smoke of them. As well, any smoke isn't ideal to be breathing. And as it's the health aspect that gets them banned, it's kind of moot thing.
50??? Think 80 at the earliest. My parents are boomers, the "stop smoking" awareness campaigns were running strong when I was in 2nd grade (and yes mom quit then).
I'm 37 and i smoke because when i was 12 my mom found a carton of cigarettes my dad was hiding, he told her they were mine, and my mom told me she was going to make me smoke every cigarette.. it was miserable, but at some point, she asked me how the smoking was.. and being a smart ass i said "pretty good" and she got mad and snatched my cigarette and put it out on my wrist.. I got addicted and i tried to quit many times, but the emotional pain and the scar i have makes it hard to quit.
Watched my grandma die a slow and painful death over 3 years after losing 90% of her lung capacity. When too little oxygen is going to your brain you get dementia too. No thanks.
Yup. As well as people who consume alcohol or cariogenic foods like grilled, fried or cured meats etc. We've all known those are bad too. Somehow people seem to be fine with those? Smoking is stupid. But so is a whole bunch of other shit.
My step dad once asked me if any of my friends smoke. I didn't think and just said yea. He said, "I can't believe anyone smokes cigarettes these days."
tbf, smoking anything is bad AF for you. and with the increasing availability of edibles for pot. idk about harder stuff and smoke vs needle, but seriously, have some respect for your lungs.
Smoking anything is likely bad for you, but what you smoke and how much you smoke matters. For me, I rarely take weed, but when I do how I take it depends on why I take it. Edibles take 1-2 hours to take effect and last for a long time, so I use them for sleeping. Vape acts quickly and gives me a light high, so I use it to help de-stress. Smoking flowers out of a pipe gives a better high, but harsher on the lungs, so that's more of a treat. ->
But even when I was smoking my most, I would smoke 1-2 joints a week, while I know cigarette smokers who smoke 3-4 cigarettes a day. Additionally, I have never found weed to be addictive. I've been able to start and stop incredibly easily. It's probably been 2-3 months since I last smoked anything. So while I wouldn't be surprised that smoking weed is bad for your lungs, to me it seems significantly less bad than cigarettes. Additionally smoking weed is a different experience than edibles
You are not considering indirect and long term effects of your actions, it seems. You are keeping alive an industry that harms other smokers and there is a high chance you will later on offload a huge amount of health costs to the tax payers.
Only 50? Smoking was identified as the leading cause of lung cancer in the early 1950s. Anyone born in 1955 or later has never lived in a world where smoking was not known to be BAD. That's 69 years. Throw an extra 10 years on that due to "not many 10 and under folks smoking" (yes, I know they exist...but not many), and we're left with everyone under the age o9f 70 who smokes being an idiot. And you read it here first: 30 years from now....
growing up in the 80s there were no warnings about smoking being bad, it was everywhere, cancer etc doesn't mean anything to a 5yo. your cool older neighbor smoked in 7th grade so you wanted to, no PSAs, just drugs are bad and DARE
I'm pretty sure they've determined inhaling anything is bad for you, people just don't like to hear that about vapes and weed. At least those aren't allowed indoors like smoking was.
What they did? They regularly pay for a poison that slowly kills them and loads society with lots of unnecessary health costs. In other words, they are idiots.
Lots of people are idiots. I wasn't aware that means we need to shame them for their choices at every turn. If we're going to do that, can we do it to all the idiots please?
I mean it does seem like if any vice were to be targeted so heavily it'd be those who drink. Because it seems 100% socially acceptable for people to get so blitzed that many of them lose their sense of reason and decide to drive around. (Not that it's socially acceptable to drink and drive, but getting drunk enough to make that choice is acceptable.)
Yeah, and it's also the drinkers that vandalize shit, kill people in traffic and just harass people, yet smokers are by default demonized for the slightest puff that drifts towards the nonsmoking crowd. I've never seen a printed picture of a destroyed liver on a bottle of Whiskey.
Apocalymon
smokers are filthy disgusting creatures that even maggots should avoid
EddyTwoLegs
It’s for temptation and suffering 😂
crookedamigo
You can just take it out and ignore it. It just means that they appreciate non smokers
Beardedgeek72
You know, you could always make it forbidden to smoke in your establishment, specifically.
RummageSaleBubbler
Easier to charge the $400, then "it smelled like smoke".
Clockworkdancerobot
A reminder? But also in case some person is a jerk, they at least put the ashes and butt someplace instead of on the floor or flamable trash
NotSomoneElse68
The #1 think I hate about smokers. They seem to think that anyplace on the ground is perfectly fine to throw their butts. You'll see them on the ground immediately surrounding the ash can. I'm in favor of their right to smoke - like any drug - but they fall to respect everyone else's right to not have to smell it, breathe it, nor deal with their garbage.
ViciousEnmoreVixen
Maybe they figured people would instinctively look for an ash tray, and when they did they would find the sign.
PhailRaptor
The other possibility is that the person who left the sign is not the one who left the ashtray
TorSverre
For their nicotine gum when they're done
littlevache
In some countries, it means the opposite of what most people think in the comments. Something along the lines of : "By law, we are forced to put this no smoking sign, but please ignore it since this place has always been a smoking place, will always be, everybody smokes here, we smoke here, please feel free to smoke here, here is the ashtray."
JackalopeElope
That's not an ashtray, it's the emergency anti-ninja discus.
Bonesy84
The answer is fires. People will sometimes choose a silly place for ash and butts when they don’t have a proper spot and it can cause fires.
Shaodyn
"We do thank people for not smoking in here, sir."
"Why? You don't know that they're not going to."
zugaga
Back in the day when smoking was allowed in hotels, depending on demand they would flip them quickly into non-smoking rooms with small signs cause they understood that maybe the next guest or just previous one would smoke. It was a “courtesy sign” to make the non-smoking guest feel better and less confusing for housekeeping to remove and place ashtrays
atthistimeonthisdate
they had extra ashtrays left from the ‘70s and your mom (who smokes after we bang at this hotel) steals them as a souvenier
pierrelaplace
That ash tray cost money. Gonna have to use it for something.
realrealluckless
Because some idiots are going to insist on smoking anyway, and a full ashtray is handy proof when they try to contest the smoke abatement charge on their bill afterwards?
Pacaruru
This, and also a ashtray full of ashes is way easier to clean compared to what would happen otherwise, which is people leaving their ashes on whatever happens to be handy at the moment: a paper napkin, a coffee cup, on the floor, etc
SteveMND
This. They'd rather someone ignore the No Smoking rule and use the ashtray than someone ignore the No Smoking rule and try and throw their ashes/butts in the trashcan or something.
lightfantasticem172
I worked not so long ago in one of the biggest Premier Inns in the UK and people are that selfish that, just for a cigarette inside, they'd kick the whole damn place out at 12 at night. Rather than go a few minutes outside. I boiled my blood.
mohavewolfpup
Or if they are smart, stay at a dive like where I last worked. Had smoking rooms and non smoking. Didn’t stop folks smoking in the no Smoking ones (which still smelled like a vintage ashtray). Got complaints? Went and put an ozone generator in the room and told them to stay out for a hour on the (smoke filled) casino floor. Heh…
androgenoide
Even if you don't smoke you need some place to safely burn the evidence.
sometimesarobot
Ashtray for decorative purposes only.
JamesAHarrod
And to crack the skull of the employee that tries to break into the room in the middle of the night
Targe0
Historical artefact only, don't touch.
unluckyandbored
Because they know people are going to smoke anyway and ignore the sign, and it's better for them to have somewhere for the ash to go than just flicking it anywhere.
Geogur
Actually, it's because someone will do it anyway, and if there's no ashtray they'll damage the furniture or floor.
StillWittyMFs
I assume for the same reasons they keep ashtrays in airplane bathrooms. So when some asshole smokes anyways, he doesn't accidentally set anything on fire putting it out.
SomeDetroitGuy
Those are there because the airplanes they are in are 40+ years old.
StillWittyMFs
The FAA still requires ashtrays on all airplanes, for the reason stated above.
khora
There are ashtrays on the wall outside the toilets on all airplanes despite all flights being no smoking.
Leaps
The plane was built before smoking was banned.
khora
Good guess, but no. It's for flight attendants to put out cigarettes when a passenger lights one.
cantbelievethisisstillavailable
It seems like they're saying, "We love it when you don't smoke, but if you're going to anyway, here's an ashtray so you don't make a mess, too."
FoosieMinotaur
Same reason there are still ash trays on airplanes, better than catching the whole plane on fire
cantbelievethisisstillavailable
What airline are you flying that still has ashtrays??
KaptainObveeus
On airplanes there is an ash tray in the bathroom even though smoking in there will get you arrested on landing.
amp99
Related: There was at least one plane crash thought to be caused by a passenger smoking after the ban on planes. Investigators believe they put the cigarette in the bin in the toilet, but it was still smouldering and turned into an inferno. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varig_Flight_820#Incident
Elkarlo77
This is the reason why most airplanes have again ashtrays on the toilets, like stated in the wikipedia article.
deckai
I almost expected the cause to be: Because they stepped out for a smoke.
onlyhalfghost
Boeing quality was higher at the time.
woodworkerf
Thank you for pot smoking.
TheRicM
I wish I was high on potenuse
Targe0
There's not much of a health difference between the smoke of them. As well, any smoke isn't ideal to be breathing. And as it's the health aspect that gets them banned, it's kind of moot thing.
HandoB4Javert
JarJarDrinks
Everyone under the age of 50 who smokes is an idiot.
demosteness
Why
UmamiMama
Or just let ppl live their lives..
Beardedgeek72
50??? Think 80 at the earliest. My parents are boomers, the "stop smoking" awareness campaigns were running strong when I was in 2nd grade (and yes mom quit then).
annnnonny
I'm 37 and i smoke because when i was 12 my mom found a carton of cigarettes my dad was hiding, he told her they were mine, and my mom told me she was going to make me smoke every cigarette.. it was miserable, but at some point, she asked me how the smoking was.. and being a smart ass i said "pretty good" and she got mad and snatched my cigarette and put it out on my wrist.. I got addicted and i tried to quit many times, but the emotional pain and the scar i have makes it hard to quit.
sharkhugs
Watched my grandma die a slow and painful death over 3 years after losing 90% of her lung capacity. When too little oxygen is going to your brain you get dementia too. No thanks.
seenunseen
Some people need a vice. Sounds like you could use one
reichstein
Or is in need of lubricant.
Thesaya
Nah, just self destructive.
Picoshi
Yup. As well as people who consume alcohol or cariogenic foods like grilled, fried or cured meats etc. We've all known those are bad too. Somehow people seem to be fine with those? Smoking is stupid. But so is a whole bunch of other shit.
Picoshi
I do all of the above just to clarify.
Merdock
My step dad once asked me if any of my friends smoke. I didn't think and just said yea. He said, "I can't believe anyone smokes cigarettes these days."
"Yes... Cigarettes."
ThomasThundersword
tbf, smoking anything is bad AF for you. and with the increasing availability of edibles for pot. idk about harder stuff and smoke vs needle, but seriously, have some respect for your lungs.
Merdock
Smoking anything is likely bad for you, but what you smoke and how much you smoke matters. For me, I rarely take weed, but when I do how I take it depends on why I take it. Edibles take 1-2 hours to take effect and last for a long time, so I use them for sleeping. Vape acts quickly and gives me a light high, so I use it to help de-stress. Smoking flowers out of a pipe gives a better high, but harsher on the lungs, so that's more of a treat. ->
Merdock
But even when I was smoking my most, I would smoke 1-2 joints a week, while I know cigarette smokers who smoke 3-4 cigarettes a day. Additionally, I have never found weed to be addictive. I've been able to start and stop incredibly easily. It's probably been 2-3 months since I last smoked anything. So while I wouldn't be surprised that smoking weed is bad for your lungs, to me it seems significantly less bad than cigarettes. Additionally smoking weed is a different experience than edibles
Hashbrown123
Nah, I just don't really give a shit about my life.
zagibu
And the lives of others, apparently.
Hashbrown123
How so? I don't smoke around other people and I mainly smoke outside. No one is getting second hand from me.
zagibu
You are not considering indirect and long term effects of your actions, it seems. You are keeping alive an industry that harms other smokers and there is a high chance you will later on offload a huge amount of health costs to the tax payers.
Sooner70
Only 50? Smoking was identified as the leading cause of lung cancer in the early 1950s. Anyone born in 1955 or later has never lived in a world where smoking was not known to be BAD. That's 69 years. Throw an extra 10 years on that due to "not many 10 and under folks smoking" (yes, I know they exist...but not many), and we're left with everyone under the age o9f 70 who smokes being an idiot. And you read it here first: 30 years from now....
Sooner70
*79
nero4ty2
growing up in the 80s there were no warnings about smoking being bad, it was everywhere, cancer etc doesn't mean anything to a 5yo. your cool older neighbor smoked in 7th grade so you wanted to, no PSAs, just drugs are bad and DARE
WJLIII3
I think the idea is more, if you're already 50, and pick up smoking, you're not exactly taking years off your life.
Sooner70
...They're going to figure out that inhaling combustion products from complex hydrocarbons is just bad, period. That will mean weed too.
whyexactly
I'm pretty sure they've determined inhaling anything is bad for you, people just don't like to hear that about vapes and weed. At least those aren't allowed indoors like smoking was.
pixelscapes
Yep. The research is already out there for both smoking and vaping. No need to wait 30 years.
BayazTheBenevolent
Of course randomly shitting on a group of strangers is fine if it's smokers. Wonder what it is that smokers did to get that much vitriol from society.
zagibu
What they did? They regularly pay for a poison that slowly kills them and loads society with lots of unnecessary health costs. In other words, they are idiots.
BayazTheBenevolent
Lots of people are idiots. I wasn't aware that means we need to shame them for their choices at every turn. If we're going to do that, can we do it to all the idiots please?
zagibu
I'm okay with this. Also means we can't omit it here, unfortunately.
LupusLilium
I mean it does seem like if any vice were to be targeted so heavily it'd be those who drink. Because it seems 100% socially acceptable for people to get so blitzed that many of them lose their sense of reason and decide to drive around. (Not that it's socially acceptable to drink and drive, but getting drunk enough to make that choice is acceptable.)
BayazTheBenevolent
Yeah, and it's also the drinkers that vandalize shit, kill people in traffic and just harass people, yet smokers are by default demonized for the slightest puff that drifts towards the nonsmoking crowd. I've never seen a printed picture of a destroyed liver on a bottle of Whiskey.
LupusLilium
Also never heard of a single story about a parent discovering a child's hidden alcohol bottle and forcing them to drink the entire thing.
BayazTheBenevolent
Admittedly, that may kill the child so I kind of get it.