Did Val invent a gutter?

Aug 16, 2016 1:48 AM

maxthyme

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See the bit of web running down to the bottom right of the frame?

It is completely non-structural, not even linked to the rest of the web, it connects to a few points on the underside of the roof there, in front of her web, and runs down to a nearby bush.

The reason it struck me that this might be a gutter is because it is centered right on her location, but if anything it would just hinder prey heading towards her, as it wouldn't trigger the "caught food" vibrations due to not being linked to the rest of the web.

It was raining last night and today while she was weaving this web, I thought I saw a similar structure the day before after I had to reposition her again (she set up in front of the door, didn't get a picture while handling her this time, my camerawoman was asleep) but didn't quite process what exactly was going on.

Then it hit me that if she was trying to weave and kept getting hit by rain, or after weaving if she had rain hitting her web it would make it more visible and trigger false signals, so a bit of webbing to lead runoff away would be very convenient, and indeed a minimal gutter design would probably resemble this structure... but that means she either came up with it on her own, or that her species carries a similar sort of contingency knowledge for dealing with runoff, doesn't it?

I mean, I guess a web-gutter falls under science and tech, right? I know the investigation of whether this is actually a thing spiders know to do does, but yeah, thought it was pretty fascinating.

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You burned down the house right?!

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

While still inside even! Nah, I've actually handled her four times now, the missus would like to try as well if I have to move her again.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Amazing. Good on you for letting it do its thing. I wish people weren't afraid of spiders and appreciated their pest removal tendencies.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Thanks, I like to encourage people to check her out, making use of the control over her location and reminding them "don't scare her."

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argiope_aurantia

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup, I also like the spiders.us site for identification purposes.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

That's a magnificent nope.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

Isn't she pretty? Had to move her back to that spot a couple times, she's great at killing pests for us, and fun to look at.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

orb weaver. they are great.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I wish I could find a way to build like a large enough shadowbox in the house and toss chilled flies in there to feed her.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

get a banana covered in fruit flys in a box, that works a treat.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wish I had your courage. Spiders (in real life) are a big nope for me. And then I complain about moths.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Eh, she's basically a little old lady: wobbly on her feet, likes to knit, hangs out on the porch eating flies.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Little old ladies creep me out, too.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's pretty cool. Now quick, yell for the neighbor's kid to come see the puppy on the other side of the web!

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I actually keep her there so she isn't easy to walk into. :D She's set up down at the end of the porch before, bad for her and us.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's really interesting

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I've checked a couple of spots and don't actually see it being suggested, maybe need to think of better search terms.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Saint Andrews Cross Spider https://animalcorner.co.uk/animals/st-andrews-cross-spider/

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Didn't know they called them that over there, neat.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Great observation. I used to catch these as a kid but most spider give me heebie jeebies now. From a distance, I love to watch them.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That's why I love having these gals around, great ambassador species since they just hang out in place so YOU can approach or hang back.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I rarely see them anymore. There used to be lots in the marshes of Cape Cod. I just see the brown garden spiders. I toss them bugs to eat.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yup, I think we had her mother in the same spot last year, I backhanded a wasp into her web once, she snapped it right up. :D

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

How does one go about moving a spider so that it makes it's web where you want?

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

...then I like to handle them so I move her by hand, but you could also just leave the rake in an appropriate spot and they'll set up. 2/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The next time I have to do this I will document the method, actually, I use a large rake to scoop the web up so it remains taut, and 1/2

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Zig Zag spider! Used to see them a lot in NC.

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

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10 years ago (deleted Oct 21, 2024 11:41 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Well that answers a lot of questions I had originally. ????

10 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Yeah, I tried to edit it in just now, not sure if it delays or something since I shared it.

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