ProzacPhilosopher
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I really hope cooler heads prevail here. Although history teaches me otherwise.
For those of you who dislike CNN you can now find it on every major network including Iranian state news.
Fp edit: never been here before, strange most to get me most viral.
Lionchild78
As an Iranian American I’m a little nervous. Really hope it doesn’t escalate further
AlfredDPrince
RElGNMAN
motoalchemist
fucking humans, time and time again
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
I believe they're saying now that two bases were attacked. Haven't heard anything about casualties, hopefully we avoided that.
Anlurai
My comment was deleted for the tinyurl. Almayadeendotnet > translate page > "Direct Tehran..." article. Scroll to "Targeting in Erbil."
Anlurai
They say the one in Erbil was the second targeted base.
Flamboyatron
monkeyslotsofthem
Not sure if CNN pulling propaganda again or story true and not slanted for CNN's benefit..
KiyoshiInoto
They did launch an attack, no one was harmed as far as I have heard.
parismaker
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes ;-)
guyfromtn
The Estes rockets I launched as a kid are more accurate than these things. They only launched them to save face with their people.
butts4life
If you are from the US please check your voter registration and vote on Nov 3rd, 2020! Thank you and have a great day!
songsinthekeyofheck
J0ND0E297
Oh boy. Here I go killing again
Popspoppingit
My buddy says Iran twitter account was tweeting pictures of the damage. Said pictures, he says, are from old attack they did, and also 1/2
Popspoppingit
attacks/damage done to Iran itself (years ago). I have not confirmed this, I don't use twitter. grain of salt and all that guys. 2/2
FromGod1
Moab part 2?
boom1chaching
I'm no history buff, but I dont think it's common for the US to accept not having the last say in a military conflict.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
That's right. Because overall, the US has to maintain power, and the appearance of power. Iran knows this and is trying to attack that.
ThailandExpress
ILiekrocks
Constant projection
hokeyreligions
Who didn't put these in chronological order? I demand answers! Some things are still sacred dammit!
ImShocked
Two of those are the same and it really diminishes the credibility. I'd rather they just had 5.
todayok
So, if that's what "you'd rather" then remake it.
Imgerruinedimger
Don't bother. The irony is completely lost on them...
algoritham
And his believers will simply deny such tweets ever happened. You can't convince fanatics.
mosstheboss
you mean the IRAN-y?!
Imgerruinedimger
That was awful. +1
xj4low
Yep, this is the guy who questioned the authenticity of the Access Hollywood Tapes AFTER he apologized for content of the tapes.
CannibalisticHedgehog
Oh it won't stop there. At all. For a long fucking time.
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pcooper114
Years? Try centuries
MatrimsCauffin
Did it ever stop...?
chaossloth44
Mehh there has been a war or turmoil of some sort in the middle-east all my years of life. Nothing new.
wadatahmydamie
I’m even seeing the same “liberals hate America because they’re not falling for Republican lies” shit from 2003.
MadMontyMN
It'll never stop
jellybeandaddyjl
I'm glad I'm already out, so I won't have to deal with whatever operation this will be called.
Perkunas687
Update: Iran has said that after their two waves of attacks, there will be a third wave targeting other places, like Dubai and Haifa, if 1/
Perkunas687
the USA retaliates for the attacks on their bases. Thus far, no known American casualties, but Iraqis have sadly perished. Trump and his 2/
Perkunas687
advisors seemed to be rushing to make an Oval Office statement tonight (1/7/20), but instead Trump will speak tomorrow. My concern is 3/
Perkunas687
this: Trump is notorious for wanting to be the macho man. Can he bear to 'lose face' by not responding to the attacks on the bases? To 4/
Perkunas687
respond or retaliate would be to call Iran's bluff. So until tomorrow morning (1/8/20, early EST), we cannot know what will happen next. 5/5
Moominmoll
We didn't start the fire, it was always burning since the world's been turning
fbutt09
God have mercy on us all. Don’t want WW3 to start.
nate808hawaii
Its borderline necessary tho.... to clear out all the BS
RyuAzuku
Just the start, believe me.
Wankathon
Is Iran actually suicidal though? They cannot defeat the USA
CannibalisticHedgehog
Maybe Iran knows there's only so far USA will go, Iran don't care and the US has restrictions from politics and the eyes of the world
Wankathon
That's a risky fucking strategy with Trump as president
CannibalisticHedgehog
Exactly the problem, the guy can't stand to lose face so it's impossible to tell if he'll back down or find ways to retaliate
RNeao
Missiles hit areas of Al-Asad base not populated by Americans. Also had enough early warning of the attack to get people into bunkers. ---
onestepbeyondsanity
truth folks - they DID NOT DO A DAMN THING.....
RNeao
https://www.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-soleimani-tensions-intl-01-07-20/h_922d6a8e3e18831ef329936c0cfcb43f
d0o0o0d
So far, the word is 'no casualties'.
nakedasajaybird
Almost like there was an advanced advance-notice. I hate to be a conspiracy theorist, but this doesn't add up at all.
thisisanaccountlol
If you hate it, then stop conspiracy theorizing. Obviously Iran wanted to prove they have the ability to hit us and purposely took no 1/
thisisanaccountlol
Lives in fear of rebuttal, but to send a statement.
dietderpsy
Satellite surveillance
AmmoVetGuy
Drone actually. Their launch sites are under constant surveillance. We knew hours ahead of time when they started prepping the missiles.
MuresanDani
The regime had to do something to not seem weak to their people, but was afraid to provoke further aggression from the US.
RNeao
Iran gave the early warning to US and Iraq. News wasn't clear on where it came from previously, whether it was detected or told about --
RNeao
https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-soleimani-tensions-intl-01-07-20/h_ab395b3814b4e5136d1abc8fa8468787
AmmoVetGuy
Nah we have their launch sites under constant surveillance via drone. We saw them prepping the missiles hours before launch.
RNeao
We saw them moving missiles the past few days, but we were also given an early warning message according to Iraqi and US defense officials.
EightyMeterLongDong
For those interested, they didn't actually hit. They were intercepted by GBI's(Ground-based Interceptors.)
FierceAndAdorable
Whew!
Vhyson
Haha. I was only kidding when I said I was ready for the world to be burned away by nuclear fallout. I really wanted to be happy again first
Doumdidoum
Iranians attcacked with guided ballistic missiles but the warheads were conventional explosives. That's a crafty message to the Pentagon.
Muzzledreaper
Most countries now have this technology dude. Not very crafty, just the way it is now. You're thinking of ICBM's. Bit different..
Doumdidoum
Guided missiles that strikes a base but miss the american barracks? While the drone attack on the Saudi refinery in 2019 was precise? Hmmm.
Muzzledreaper
You know iran just retaliated to save face right? They know they can't take America. They even gave warning that they were going to attack.
Doumdidoum
Why not both?
Jaco365
Wait, you guys got to be happy?
EightyMeterLongDong
Iran doesn't have nukes, and they aren't worth using ours on.
Mack1986
Hopefully. But when I was in Al asad in 2007 we got hit about 42 times in one day. Fun times
orbitlives
It’s also Al Asad. It could hit “on base” and still be well away from a populated area. If Iran was smart, they would do just that. Hit the
orbitlives
base, but target low-risk casualty zones. They send the message they need to while limiting escalation (in theory).
chiggachiggawhawha
I heard it used to be horrible there. I was there in 2010, we were hit once in the 13 months I was there.
Mack1986
Yeah it was a different country betweenn 08 and 10. 08 shot at everyday. 10. Not once. (Maybe a couple IRAMs)
r1ch999999
how you holding up?
Mack1986
Alright, noise machine to sleep or else I dont
r1ch999999
Back when I was in the guys who had seen action all had noisy desk fans, or radios tuned to static. Sound machines didn't exist yet.
Mack1986
Take a desk fan. Tape paper to the blades. Makes a whirring souns
StewedTomaters
Different type of attack though, right? Not medium-range missiles from Iran itself.
Mack1986
Yeah usually mortars and shorter 4anged rockets. But daily
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StewedTomaters
Not rockets, ballistic missiles.
TroelsyTwo
It seems the Danish troops at that base are all fine according to our news.
theprincethatshallcome
It's the Iranian people that will suffer. Their leaders are crazy zealots and won't stop until they're all dead.
illbeinmybunkknockfirst
Sad to see someone so brainwashed they cannot think for themselves
MarleafChef
It is. We try to tell them not to wear those red hats and their leader isn't infallible but they just don't listen.
taroband
MuwahaHaha ! !
thatguywhohasnoname
Much deeper than all that. Will suck for all involved
LanceHol
Kind of like Trump and his cultists!
Fauxcused
We have no shortage of crazy zealots on our side right now, either.
Arkanrais
western crazed idiots: shouting about politics and being dicks. middle east crazed idiots: suicide bombings, beheadings, slaughter
Fauxcused
hey everybody, I found one!
Zipbang
Thats why diplomacy and targeted sanctions(not on medicine!) work much better.
Himser
Yes it does work better.. it also works a lot better if you stick to the agreements you made to keep things peaceful...
gtmiller
And Iraqis
bdesign7
Much like ours?
xyrax
LETS IGNORE THE PART WHERE WE KILLED ONE OF THEIR DIPLOMATS THE OTHER DAY BOYS! ALL THIS IS CRAZY IRAN'S FAULT AMIRITE?
Grudgebearingmidget
"One of their diplomats" You mean a General who, by Wiki's own sources has been viewed as funding terrorist actions since AT LEAST 2005?
Grudgebearingmidget
Please tell me you're not referring to Qasem Soleiman, the same dickhead who helped Russia organize it's offense into Syria?
flashoverride42
You mean the guy in charge of their external terrorist force since ‘98?
dingdongtittytwinkle
Could swap the word Iranian for American and still have a valid argument
Shane2017
Iran's leaders make Trump look like a saint. So if you think Trump is awful, it just goes to show how truly terrible Iran's leaders are.
Arkanrais
oh horseshit. americans aren't killed en mass for protesting. they don't have to worry about torture & death for publicly disagreeing
iamshocked
Yeah and no one's gonna bomb America
zenoshogun
Replace dead with broke and it works.
retroparkour
Yeaaaaaah I mean no one would really bat an eye if it was reversed cause well resources.
oddizee
Except the American people have a way of peacefully removing their leaders if enough of them want them gone. Iranians dont.
NiceLegsDaisyDukesMakesAMAAANOUTOFYOOOUUUU
Uh if that’s what you call what’s been going on for the past four years buddy, I’ve got a timeshare I’d like to sell you.
wadatahmydamie
Sorta. Millions more voted against this shit than for it, but our system doesn’t prioritize people’s votes.
Dorsk84
Well if you want the leaders all dead.... there is a quick and Bright way to do it, but there is also a shit ton of collateral damage.
Trowserbear
Lots of radioactive glass too
Dorsk84
And permanent shadows on walls.
Trowserbear
If there are walls left
Danmanbadman
Yeah that is a way, but the consequences for that, far outweighs the benefits
borocanuck
No, all citizens simply kill the national leaders when they get above themselves. Button on the fridge.
pc832pc832
(1) Trump didn't attack when they shot down a drone in international waters. He did nothing when they drone attacked Saudi oil fields and
Isendsecretsantagifts
The world warned President Trump not to unilaterally withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal. It was working and Iran was fully compliant. But
Isendsecretsantagifts
But Trump withdrew and imposed stringent sanctions on Iran, crippling its economy and torturing its people
Isendsecretsantagifts
Iran was backed into a corner and rightly saw Trump's action as "economic terrorism".
Isendsecretsantagifts
What followed were carefully orchestrated attacks on oil tankers and Saudi oil pipes. Iran denied responsibility but was likely involved
Isendsecretsantagifts
Trump's decision to kill Soleimani is widely seen as illegal.
pc832pc832
(2) naval ships. He did attack after they killed a US contractor in Iraq. In that strike he killed an Obama designated terrorist responsible
pc832pc832
(3) for hundreds of American deaths. He did what he said he'd always do. Kill terrorists and kill anyone who harms Americans. Be cautious of
pc832pc832
(4) known Iranian protagonists on social media attempting to divide America by making this a left right thing.
MicrosoftWizard7
He picked a target that should die, but was oblivious of the consequences. We'll see if he has the balls to take responsibility that follows
DarkSock
Meanwhile...
Livingexistence
Does this mean we can just quickly remove him from office so we can get on with this, or is the Senate going to keep dragging their heels
ImHereToGetDownvotes
Senate Republicans won't remove him, which will just deepen his ego that he's right in all things.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
The senate? Sorry chief, but it's the house of reps that won't send the articles over. This shows it's all political theatre.
oddizee
I mean if he says he wants an end to it every day does this really make it different. Is not like he was all "take your time guys " before.
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Impeachment is a farce anyways. The second article is literally them saying "We didn't like it when he used his powers as president."
PoliteButFactualCanadian
And no, I don't support Trump. I'm tired of the democrats making stupid political blunders over and over though.
Shoutrr
"i don't support trump but i voluntarily misquote and forget the terms of his impeachment because i lied when i said i don't support trump"
PoliteButFactualCanadian
I didn't misquote it. That's literally what it is. You should look into it and get some objective analysis.
Shoutrr
it's 2 articles, the first is the bribery (the quid pro quo) and the second is his refusal to abide by the constitution when inquired/1
Shoutrr
you'll be able to quote a measly 9 pages text faithfully./e
Shoutrr
about the first article. that's it. and you voluntarily failed to even get that right. you'll get to talk about objective analysis when /2
Syneios
^ Not supporting democrats is supporting Trump in the eyes of a democrat. They have black and white tunnel vision.
Shoutrr
no. but saying impeachment is a farce and only quote one article and forgetting to quote the main point of impeachment(the quid pro quo)/1
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Exactly. Many people on the left simply cannot handle the fact that their party is flawed, which is why they lost 2016.
Shoutrr
thinking that republicans support your interests is incredibly naive considering their history (the one they constantly lie about on fox)/e
Shoutrr
self contradiction and refusing to admit anything is wrong with the dude is borderline fanaticism. also ignoring facts and other /3
Shoutrr
anti democratic tactics (gerrymandering) just because "it's my party" is genuinely dishonest. democrats are far from perfect, but /4
Shoutrr
is a telltale of an obvious bias. Also taking whatever the orange man say as face value when he has an obvious history of lies and /2
AdultPersistentAngst
It's not going to stop here. This is gonna suck fucking dog balls.
JupitersWitch
It was small beans compared to what we took from them.
SuperSonicStyle
Not if the dog gets neutered. Cant suck dog balls if you cut them off and blow up 52 more targets
BQZip
The US won’t retaliate for a strike that didn’t hurt anyone.
JupitersWitch
Iran would be signing their death certificate. I don’t think Trump is scared of fucking them up.
BQZip
Never said he was scared; merely that it wouldn't be a good response.
WhyDontYouMakeMe
Metallica93
I'm going to take this as sarcasm and maybe hope you're not one of those "bomb them into glass" dumbasses from 10+ years ago.
Cheomesh
Dude it was nearly 20
Metallica93
Well, no. It /happened/ a little over 18 years ago, but from 2001-2009 was when the "Let's glass 'em!" bullshit was strongest. Hence "10+".
AdultPersistentAngst
20 is 10+ which is technically correct.
Cheomesh
True, but damn man...time flies.
Deadmanwalkn
Obviously sarcasm because no sane person thinks trump's terroristic threat is a good idea
JupitersWitch
That’s a logical fallacy. If you do this you are this. I can use that logic for all kinds of bullshit claims.
Deadmanwalkn
It was more of just a good ol fashioned insult. Allow me to rephrase, trump's threats of bombing civilian sites is terroristic by 1/
Deadmanwalkn
definition, and to support such a threat says either you support terrorism (assuming it's not against you), or you're an imbecile 2/2
bogus1983
Except the people who voted him in because he hates foreigners. They might like the idea of retaliating after provoking foreigners.
Deadmanwalkn
And committing clear cut war crimes - fair point
AdultPersistentAngst
Sixsystems
Welp a 737 just crashed near Tehran supposedly...
Callistan
Ukrainian passenger jet, unclear at this time if related to Iran-US tensions https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51029994
HenryLongfellowIII
PS752 (Ukraine International Airlines) scheduled to leave 5:15AM local time, from Tehran to Kyiv.
RiceEnema
Pretty sure Iran accidentally shot down one if it’s own planes. Strange time for a jet to just go down. Of course they won’t admit it.. yet!
Himser
Dodbthe USA murder 250 more civilians like they did in 88?
Gnosis6
Iran did it. Embarrassing
HenryLongfellowIII
290 people - "accidentally" shot down a civilian Iranian A300 Airbus airliner with a proper transponder, flying in Iranian airspace. Nice.
MyFavoriteColorIsOrange
RIP Iran
TheUpdootist
And a sizable portion of the US army. This one ain't going to be bloodless.
Frodosynthisis
"sizeable portion" yeah no, it's not going to be a large amount most fighting is going to be airstrikes i'm sure
TheUpdootist
A direct war with Iran would be no easy affair. Casualties would be high on both sides. Also, Iran has highly modernized air defense 1
TheUpdootist
Systems. Especially in comparison to Iraq and Afghanistan. Air superiority would not be a definite thing, especially in the beginning. 2
DaMummy
Just a reminder, both China and Russia are allies of Iran.
owlest
China has made a statement saying they will not be involved, "we will not be mediators" were the language used
Moosecock
And the US has none?
DaMummy
It does, but I'd be amazed if this stop at just Iran.
bogus1983
Fewer by the day. That's the problem with isolationism and being a global embarrassment.
Taxicat
Not anymore.
Zipbang
Start investing in flag draped coffins.
TroelsyTwo
Just invest in western flags. I see how many they burn on TV. There'll be a shortage.
MyFavoriteColorIsOrange
You don’t know how Trump works do you? He’s not into long drawn out wars.
MerlintheRogue
Found the troll account
Invyggle
Just like Obama he is gonna bend over to the establishment and go anyway
YouHadMeAtAsian
Doubt it Obama didn’t have the balls Trump does.
Invyggle
If anything the last week has proved that no, he is gonna follow the path of liberal hegemony. Nothing new.
GinoTheIntern
The US is.
Zipbang
You don't know how terrorism works, do you? The like long drawn out guerrilla warfare... on other peoples soil.
YouHadMeAtAsian
Not with the tech we have now. Trump is saying he’s gonna hit them hard and fast and wants to end it in less than 60 days. I believe him
MicrosoftWizard7
Christ man, that is naiive. I'm sure you believed bush and friends when he said the same huh
IZ42
Go and volunteer
TheCacklingJackal
Unless he plans on killing everyone in Iran, he likely just created more radicals who hate America.
Metallica93
Hahaha. 1) You believe him? 2) Explain how that was any different from Bush's approach that got us into this shit storm.
Deadmanwalkn
LOL, you actually believe that nonsense? Dude has lied over 13k times, but THIS is the one time he's telling the truth?
sunmanXII
A Ukrainian plane fell in Tehran just now. 180 civilians dead. Toootal coincidence. Nothing to see here.
Imalwaysready
I don't think Trump's going to go out of his way to help the Ukrainians in this, though...
r1ch999999
Well, it started with Iran attacking US troops in Iraq, the US attacked back, Iran linked people stormed the embassy, the US killed 1/2
Armouredfalcon
it started (as far as I know) after WW2 when the allies decided to basically carve up the middle east regardless of what was there before.
r1ch999999
this is probably the most accurate statement yet, although they were all killing each other prior to WWII
xj4low
The area has been fighting each other for hundreds of years. Seems convenient to blame the west. I know we haven't helped things.
Imalwaysready
It's cute that you've bought into it starting with Iran attacking US troops.
Himser
You missed where the USA murdered 240 people in 88. No one is inoccent. We hsd a deal to keep the area stable, the USA fucked that up.
thanksbutnothanksmate
you mean us troops that are in a country where they don't belong and nobody wanted them? ah
DocNando
You're all forgetting that the Iranian regime most recently went out of their way to kill 450 of their own citizens
Arkanrais
that's what I dont get. some people are acting like iran isn't that bad, and some here even argue that soleimani was a diplomat
DocNando
And injured 7000 more over having an opinion. War is nasty, but letting a government slaughter it's own population is unacceptable.
ImNotStalkingYouBTWYoureOutOfMilk
It all started when the US broke the beautiful, hand-crafted democracy that the British empire gave Iran. They were proud of it, and happy.
r1ch999999
this I have to confess I don't know much about, I should read up on it.
Uglytattoos
It started in 1956, got worse in 79, got really fucked up in 88. Pretending that all fault lies with Iran is comical
PoliteButFactualCanadian
Not all, but the lion's share. Their culture is primitive and is what is leading them down this path. They haven't advanced.
Muzzledreaper
I'm sorry, but how many conflicts have America escalated for their own gain? Very silly statement. "primitive culture" come on..
Armouredfalcon
what an idiotic statement
Shoutrr
are you a neo nazi?
dietderpsy
The Iranians voted in the Mullahs, they have been attacking US troops and allies for decades with rockets and IEDs.
Uglytattoos
You know they democratically voted in a president, right? But he wasn’t chummy enough with the US. So we overthrew him. We made this.
dietderpsy
And after they voted in the current regime on 1 April 1979.
Uglytattoos
Yeah, because the people we put in power in the fifties sucked. Nationwide repression, all kinds of shitty policy.
dietderpsy
Then when the general in charge of it gets killed they throw a fit.
r1ch999999
the Iran asshole, Iran shot more missiles back. Now what? The US levels the fuckers? 2/2
sempergumby1371
Hopefully
jbilly90
Yes
r1ch999999
I'm curious where it's going to end. I find it interesting that I get downvoted for posting the series of events.
jbilly90
Unfortunately they have made a really bad choice in attacking the bases. US has one of the most powerful military’s in the world. They -
jbilly90
Have no chance in defeating the US. Lots of innocent Iranian and American lives will be lost when war happens
Kurt1984
Pretty much... Iran's military is like an elderly Chihuahua gumming the hind leg of a Rottweiler. It won't end well for them.
Orion1453
Except not really. We would absolutely win, but it wouldn't be worth the cost in any way.
GinoTheIntern
What was the Iraqi military like?
Kurt1984
The one US and coalition forces destroyed in 3 weeks?... or do you mean Al Qaeda and Isis?
GinoTheIntern
So why was the fourth year of the Iraq War the deadliest for US troops?
CannibalisticHedgehog
Eventually yeah. Given that part of the world is covered in oil fields. What do you think the agenda has been for the past 20-30 years?
Imalwaysready
Developing renewables so we don't have to fight over oil? Just kidding! Let's claim wind turbines cause cancer & do another war instead!
Alavar
We get most of our oil ourselves or from canada/south America. So where is all this oil we are getting in the middle east going to?
r1ch999999
and yet I'm still paying to much for gas. Maybe I should have bought exxon stock.
CannibalisticHedgehog
Well yeah of course you are, how are the rich that own oil fields and gas companies supposed to get more rich off you?
drh1138
LOL, it started with the American CIA overthrowing Iran's democracy back in the 50's and installing the Shah.
r1ch999999
we can go back further, specifically I was speaking of the current events. I'm American and I have no illusions about what we've done.
drh1138
Americans always ignorantly assume that their country does and did nothing wrong, and nobody has any legitimate reason to hate them.
shedooooooooo
I find it hard to believe a country is so easily influenced by words of another. I guarantee those that you believe instilled then”shah” ->
shedooooooooo
->have never even heard that word before. America is not a babysitter. The way countries choose to behave is up to them, not America.
drh1138
America chose to interfere in foreign governments through the Cold War and prop up right-wing dictatorships. We're now feeling the blowback.
MOTHERFUCKING
No, we really don't. Don't take this asshole as the standard for the average American, he's not.
Shoutrr
you elected him (either by actually voting for him, by not voting at all and by complacency with your election system and the elected).
MOTHERFUCKING
No I voted against him.
ydwyrd
American here, I recognize that our entire history is fucked up.
SneakyEmu2
Sorry but American Congress has never chanted "dead to Iran"
Rumpocalypse
Oh no! Not chanting!
Uglytattoos
No, we just overthrew there Democratically elected government, and shot down a plane full of their civilians. Grow up
VitruviusArchitectus
No one voted for that
drh1138
No, they just fund the people who overthrow democratically elected governments.
LM127001
Iranian official response “more attacks would follow any additional US aggression”...this was a low key / face saving response to deescalate
gabble13gjgj360
Yeah they can't look weak for Killin a general but... They can't let one move drag them into war.
JupitersWitch
I honestly think the Iranian government wanted to get rid of Soleimani as well and fed our people information. There response also planned.
ProzacPhilosopher
Agreed
PoliteButFactualCanadian
I hope so. Avoiding war is great, but sometimes a message must be sent to avoid future issues. Maybe this is one of those times.
TroelsyTwo
There aren't just American troops there btw. My country has troops there.
M4Lfuncti0n
Yeah but America can't get it's idiotic Republican citizens behind a war unless they incite them. Nevermind the fact the US provoked Iran...
dietderpsy
Iran has killed an estimated 600 US troops and thousands of civilians in Iraq and Israel. This has been ongoing for decades.
M4Lfuncti0n
And was going on before we sent troops there, yet we sent them regardless... For what reason? Have we accomplished anything with them?
MrHailstone
Thats true. Germany has also about 120 soldiers there
snakeoilsalesman
I've a friend in the New Zealand army who is there.
Isendsecretsantagifts
New Zealand is talking about leaving because of trump's actions. It's been on the news.
dumalalee
Danish?
TroelsyTwo
Yes.
dumalalee
Worked with y’all on that base. Good people... i was a 5’9 brown guy in a sea of 6’+ blonde white people built like fucking Thor.
TroelsyTwo
Good thing not British. They're crazy. One came home and fucked his friends mum on my sofa. lol
MothMonsterMan
Who is this "my country" you speak of?
acid9000
Also Estonians.
TroelsyTwo
Denmark. Currently 130 Danish soldiers there.
EveryoneWhoDisagreesWithMeIsLiterallyHitler
i hope theyre okay :l i dont wanna read the news cuz i hate hearing about dead allied soldiers
jisaacs1207
So... the entire Danish military force?
TroelsyTwo
Only 5.7 million Danes so a good chunk of the population in general.
Isendsecretsantagifts
New Zealand is considering withdrawing because of Trump's actions. Maybe your country will as well
GivOsEnSocialistiskKalmarUnion
Heldigvis kom ingen af dem noget til.
Snooj
Tisofthee.
JadedDoorman
Snooj
It's west of Sweetland.
OnePriest1Nun
Of Liberty?
pleaseconsiderthatImightbejoking
PickinANameIsHard
Seriously though. I laughed out loud and about woke peeps up. Ha!
kmgj
These were ballistic missiles not rockets. In the military sense the difference is guidance and range. BMs are longer and more targeted. 1/2
AmbroseGudmaker
I bet they were rocket powered missiles so still technically rockets.
BQZip
...and they all “missed”
Slanderbeast
He said BM. Hehehe.
tuxedobob
Both things make stuff go boom, right?
thegregorious
Ballistic missiles that by and large missed highly sensitive targets and were relatively ineffective. Perhaps posturing without escalating?
alcaray
I don't believe they have the accuracy for voluntary near-misses.
NiteRhys
Probably intercepted, as in previous news articles a lot of Patriot missile batteries have been high alert for this kind of thing
dingofdong
Did they ever fix the patriot system, after it transpired that the famous "100% success rate" in the gulf was actually more like 0%?
SamanosukeOnimusha
I know my bowel movements are longer and more targeted
kmgj
Personally, I tend to “cluster strike”
SonOfKazar
I'm more of a rapid-fire, spray and pray guy, myself.
Jalopenis
Who did you kill?!
myproudburner
We're aware of these movements. We get bulletins.
romicra88
I don't think any actually did any damage. I think they're wanting to draw out retaliation
chewbakken
It’s Iran retaliating for killing General Soleimani.
Itotallygetthatreference
What could possibly make you think that? Why would they retaliate like that? What did we ever do to them?..oh wait.
ProzacPhilosopher
Nah looks like they were saving face. Minor damage and no known casualties.
juanjohneh
If the smart people in our military let slip info of an abandoned base then I say good. Let 'em safe face to prevent catastrophe
StewedTomaters
Expecting "cooler heads to prevail" is something I haven't exactly been counting on in the past few years. Trump literally doesn't know how
StewedTomaters
to negotiate when it's something longer-term agreement than getting cabinets built in a hotel. He knows distributive negotiation, but not
kmgj
2/2 The difference speaks to the level of sophistication/planning of this attack
everyoneACTUALLYlikesmycomments
Thank you for the explanation
smileyvstheworld
That and the IRGC are taking credit. Thats a pretty big deal.
PickleMorty
That being said Fox reported Iran had an estimated 2000 more in the region.
kaleldc86
This attack was designed to know it came from within Iran..they dont want to hide behind proxies or militias or anything else. This was the
kaleldc86
Iranian government attacking the american government. Maybe we can have lectures like those 'Iran in the 60s' in like 2045 when were still
kaleldc86
Occupying Persia and have brought some semblance of democracy and progress back.
feanoreldar
Like Iraq and Afghanistan?
ImANurse
Any deaths?
3crowsBeast
No, or it would have been stated, IMHO
puppysnuggles
To funny that you don’t realize that while they are ballistic missiles Iran doesn’t have a guidance system to do targeted hits
puppysnuggles
They are no more accurate than the barrel bombs that Syria used on there own people
kmgj
The DIA disagrees - it cites Iran’s ballistic missile program as one of their 3 major capabilities 1/2
kmgj
Ballistic missiles trajectories don’t need much guidance- only a little at the beginning. Gravity and physics do the rest
Imheisenbeard
Yet, we were unable to shoot down a single fucking missile. So what do.
DavidBrooker
Satellite images were released today of the target sites. Specific buildings were all hit with accuracies of ~2-3 meters. Nobody died 1/2
DavidBrooker
because Iran didn't want to kill anybody - they hit exactly what they wanted to. 2/2
kmgj
Thanks for the update - so not only was Iran looking to de-escalate, but has now demonstrated their capability to the rest of the world
rambosmurf
Iran also reported to its citizens that "dozens" of Americans were killed. I've not seen this report but one Iranian news source said 30.
rambosmurf
Perhaps they didnt want to kill anyone, but they told their citizens they killed dozens of Americans. It for propaganda points
rambosmurf
Hey: "Propaganda Upvotes" - I invented a thing!!...lol
thedarkcanuck
I've had Taliban goat fucker fire plenty of rockets at me, but they damn sure never had any ballistic missiles
ryuChronicles
did you beat the taliban yet ?
ryuChronicles
Just curious the Russians couldn't beat them and we're smart enough to get out. Hillary said we would never negotiate with them and now we .
ryuChronicles
are literally begging them for a deal
thedarkcanuck
puppysnuggles
When You fire 15 missiles and can’t kill anyone you’re not exactly doing sophisticated targeted strikes
kmgj
My guess is that the fact they didn’t kill anyoneone on base might say more to the fact that they possibly targeted less populated areas 1/2
kmgj
2/2 There are also reports that radar picked them up early enough to get ppl to cover - so could just be that. Waiting to see more reporting
Doumdidoum
It was a message. It was ballistic missiles with warhead capabilities. It means stand down, the next ones will be loaded.
MOTHERFUCKING
They just proved their capability and willingness to strike at targets outside of their borders. So.
feanoreldar
Two weeks of carpet bombing the country and they will have only small arms and rockets left.
MOTHERFUCKING
That's been enough for Afghanistan and they're winning.
TheBeerDoctor
In all honesty I think they aimed for buildings they new no one was in. To fire that many and not kill someone is intentional.
puppysnuggles
How Will they know there was not a single person in the building that nobody has claimed a hit
DavidBrooker
And consistent with what Iran wants. They don't want escalation. They want to save face, show they're 'strong', and to convince Iraq 1/2
DavidBrooker
to kick out the Americans. Killing hundreds of Americans doesn't do that. 2/2
puppysnuggles
And if the level of sophistication is so high and they didn’t kill any troops it’s proof Trump won. They be scared
UncomfortablePotato33
what did he "win" in this case? he embarrassed the us on an international stage
Absinthminded
Not sure if it's also the point that they could've but didn't or didn't have the satellite Intel. Real muslims aren't supposed to 1/
Absinthminded
Kill unless necessary 2/
DavidBrooker
Not entirely. The Iranian foreign ministry statements seem to indicate they were looking to a) save face, and b) de-escalate. They said 1/2
puppysnuggles
Exactly
DavidBrooker
Not exactly. There's no way to see a winner here yet. If Iraq asks American troops to leave, that's an unmitigated Iranian win, and a 1/2
DavidBrooker
"Iran took and *concluded*" (emphasis mine) steps to defend itself - explicitly saying it hopes this is the end of it. If they killed 2/3
DavidBrooker
hundreds of Americans they'd be obligated to attack back. If they damage buildings and planes, and maybe Iraqis, the don't, especially 3/4
Metallica93
So... worse than the headline makes it? I haven't followed any of the "World War III" news.
MOTHERFUCKING
At this time there aren't any reports of US casualties, so not necessarily any worse than what's already been stated.
DarkwingDuc
The situation is super-fucked and won't end well for anyone, but it's not "World War III". Not a lot of world-powers are gonna side w/ Iran.
Metallica93
That's why I put it in quotation marks. We're not going to see that level of fighting until we experience more prominent resource shortages.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
Just Russia. China, the UK, and France might come in because of Russia. UK with US, China with Russia, and France is the wild card.
matiman
France won't line up with anyone. We already busy getting ambushed in Sahel
deekermans31415
I'm not a history buff, but we're there "a lot of world powers" that sided with Germany? I'm guessing this won't be a WW, but it seems >
deekermans31415
< to have a lot of parallels to the last two.
Orion1453
In WW1, yes absolutely. In WW2, yes kinda. Italy wasn't a joke at the time, and neither was Japan. But while Iran isn't a pushover at all,>
belthasarthegreat
Uhh italy and the austrohungarian and ottoman empires in the first
Perkunas687
These were pinpoint weapons, not random rockets like you might see over Israel sometimes. Iran has a sophisticated military; some in the 1/
Perkunas687
US would like to think Iran would be a pushover. Iran would be no Iraq. 2/2
Metallica93
I believe "some" is a gross understatement given how ignorant the general public is regarding Middle Eastern nations. Still... God damn it.
toptrojanfan
They missed though, so it seems it could have been on purpose or an embarrassing error
JustinoRey
They didn't miss. One source said missile tracking enable base staff to escape in time. Another source claims middle defense intercepted.
NobodyWorthThinkingAbout
Either way, it's one hell of a warning shot.
Metallica93
I doubt it's an error. Proportionate response is very much a thing. Blowing up an entire airfield? That's escalation and, well... war.