The only reason Elon moved so hard to the right was the Left held him accountable for his decisions and his behavior... He used to be pretty moderate. Now he's hard right because his lunacy and stupidity is embraced.
A political ideology that is hostile toward science and education.... doesn't appeal to those who practice those? HOW CAN THAT BE? MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!!
Republicans just don’t believe in science. Eg: My dad (a Republican but former expert electrician) is a flat earther, young earth creationist, climate change denialist, etc with every conspiracy theory against science you can imagine. They don’t want to learn anything. They want a one line talking point that explains everything, even if it isn’t true.
So, I will never stop telling my anecdotal example of this. I was raised in a conservative, bible thumping home. Then I got educated, met lots of people from different places, learned unconditional empathy, and just like that, Im a liberal. It rarely goes the other way, which means conservativism needs to breed to grow their numbers, unlike liberalism which just exists and people move to it.
Note 95%+ of religious professors lean Democrat, because they know and understand how religion can be corrupted and used for political manipulation through sheer bullshit. Case in point: Hitchens, Tyson, Sagan...
Sauce:Mitchell Langbert’s 2018 study, "Homogenous: The Political Affiliations of Elite Liberal Arts College Faculty", published through the National Association of Scholars, found an overall Democratic-to-Republican (D:R) voter registration ratio of 10.4:1 across 51 elite U.S. liberal arts colleges
Not 100% true, but close enough. There is money in being a professor, but requires ungodly hours of work, and poverty until you make it past the associate stage.
For most, its far less as a professor than elsewhere. My wife would probably triple her salary if she moved from professor of finance to work for one of the big banks that keep trying to recruit her.
Also, reality has a lefty bias and professors tend to be interested in the truth and science and stuff. Which repudiates much of the right-wing ideology.
i'm damn near 50 and i'd fucking kill him, literally, i'd just hope for an understanding jury and after i took the stand i'm sure they'd let me off for it...
As an atheist who did a lot of courses in the religion department for his anthro degree almost everyone there was a "person of faith" in one way or another. Instead of using the texts for confirmation bias (like an evangelical) they were trying to understand the teachings.
You should read or listen to literally any theologians or religious scholars if you're even slightly interested. They're woke af and understand exactly how the sausage is made
even if it isn't that it is theology, even if you took only christian theologists, i think they would come out as "democrat" because republicans don't want to study the bible, they already know it supports everything they believe, their pastor told them so
That’s not even as shocking as economics being bluer than engineering. I work at a university and that feels 100% bullshitty. Predictably, the closer the concentration is tied to money, the more conservative the faculty. Science and Art have the opposite effect. I doubt this graphic is accurate or the study itself is a big bias bomb.
Unless they work at Trager or Liberty U the clichés would have trouble getting a position. Tenure Committee: Tell us about your prior studies, what you plan to add to the university and knowledge you can share with students. GOP "scholar": I study both kinds Baptist and American.
i wondered if the republicans not being very into studying religion would skew the dem/rep bias, i haven't met a republican who discusses and debates theology
That's because theological republicans are absolutists. As far as they're concerned what they say is absolutely the truth regardless of any evidence to the contrary, so why would they debate it with anybody?
I like to say the problem with certain kinds of religious people is they treat their good book as a GPS and not a compass. That is they follow it literally instead of bringing their own map and using it to merely help them stay on course.
obarey
There are two dots to connect here, just two.
genericanamoly
My mom has a PHD and is a republican. She is that small little red part on the bar labeled "English"
IDoNotWantAnAccount
Intelligence and reality have left wing biases.
EscalatorCongestion
The only reason Elon moved so hard to the right was the Left held him accountable for his decisions and his behavior... He used to be pretty moderate. Now he's hard right because his lunacy and stupidity is embraced.
Starfox5
Smart people don't join the morons who ignore science, facts and reality itself.
sirbartonslady
A political ideology that is hostile toward science and education.... doesn't appeal to those who practice those? HOW CAN THAT BE? MUST BE A CONSPIRACY!!
Nanntuckett
Republicans just don’t believe in science. Eg: My dad (a Republican but former expert electrician) is a flat earther, young earth creationist, climate change denialist, etc with every conspiracy theory against science you can imagine. They don’t want to learn anything. They want a one line talking point that explains everything, even if it isn’t true.
tzahtman
What the hell is happening in Engineering that leads so may to such a shitty ideology?
Filanwizard
I bet that 40% in engineering is largely the fossil fuels industry. ;)
flexstar
And 90% of all scientists are democrats.. strange ..
SpectrumRabbit
DonaldTrumpsFlaccidHairpiece
So, I will never stop telling my anecdotal example of this. I was raised in a conservative, bible thumping home. Then I got educated, met lots of people from different places, learned unconditional empathy, and just like that, Im a liberal. It rarely goes the other way, which means conservativism needs to breed to grow their numbers, unlike liberalism which just exists and people move to it.
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
"Wow"
IrrationalNumber
Should I be surprised that the party of anti-intellectualism isn't well represented among intellectuals?
randomhero13
engineers? mathematicians? chemists? hm..
DrNicholasRivierA
Note 95%+ of religious professors lean Democrat, because they know and understand how religion can be corrupted and used for political manipulation through sheer bullshit. Case in point: Hitchens, Tyson, Sagan...
16KTS
Oof
CaptSchmidtGaming
"just follow the science"
"hold up... when I follow the science I always find democrats!!! IM CALLING HOAX!!!"
landisfloatingrock
“Annnd therefore? …she’s a witch! Gooood” -MP and the HG
kubi
I'm actually surprised Economics (business) isn't more red.
Delathi
Right leaning Economists go into politics to try to make more money than professors.
Thetas
When they brag about "ending DEI in America" and experts are still mostly Democrats, that says everything you need to know.
CasionProjects
Who could’ve guessed that starting a wave of anti-intellectualism to distract from dangerous business practices was a bad idea?
MeeseOnABeam
elon musk went to college and look how he turned out. abc, always be welding. or something.
foxpotate
Just gonna leave this here.
SleazyBijou
Fuckin engineers think they’re smart
gmonkey129
Sauce:Mitchell Langbert’s 2018 study, "Homogenous: The Political Affiliations of Elite Liberal Arts College Faculty", published through the National Association of Scholars, found an overall Democratic-to-Republican (D:R) voter registration ratio of 10.4:1 across 51 elite U.S. liberal arts colleges
evilspock
Professors are educators, and are educated.
They also don't make a ton of money, so are not commonly motivated by money.
Of course they're left wing. If they were right wing they'd have gone into politics or business.
Professors are mostly what's left over when you get rid of the financially motivated.
LittleAzie
Not 100% true, but close enough. There is money in being a professor, but requires ungodly hours of work, and poverty until you make it past the associate stage.
ButImNoExpert
For most, its far less as a professor than elsewhere. My wife would probably triple her salary if she moved from professor of finance to work for one of the big banks that keep trying to recruit her.
nopenopittynope2806
Exactly this.
ChippinStrata
Also, reality has a lefty bias and professors tend to be interested in the truth and science and stuff. Which repudiates much of the right-wing ideology.
sochilln
The last demographic is not surprising. Its disappointing but not surprising and looks valid in my experience.
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
Elon Musk is so stupid he doesn't realize he is stupid. Also he won't fight me.
SlamCampbell
Get in line. Ive been calling him out to foster fight me in a Denny's parking lot for months. Coward hasn't responded.
DSREX
He also has an entire layer of people around him that prevent him from learning it too. Because their position at his foot might be at risk.
Sebastopol140
I wouldn't hit him with somebody else's fist. ew!
Frencheeseater
What do you think clubs are made for ?
veedubfreak
I can clean my boots after
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Zuck? Is that you?
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
Nah fuck that "guy" too. I use "guy" in quotes cause if he's not an alien pretending to be a human being, he sure as shit acts like one.
Lampmonster
God I'd love to fight him. I'm fifty and haven't been in a fight for about twenty five years but I wouldn't hesitate.
jojoyojimbi
i'm damn near 50 and i'd fucking kill him, literally, i'd just hope for an understanding jury and after i took the stand i'm sure they'd let me off for it...
Baalzak
Don't take it too personally. He wouldn't fight Zuckerberg either.
DinosaursCameFromSpace
He would have but his mom said it was time to come in for dinner
TheGriffin
His mom's twitter account which he runs
Sebastopol140
Wut??
EroticZombiePants
There's a difference between academic teaching on religion and what the religious teach themselves.
JoeMalmsteen
People who study the religions of the world and their impact on history, not necessarily people who are religious.
VictorDenn
As an atheist who did a lot of courses in the religion department for his anthro degree almost everyone there was a "person of faith" in one way or another. Instead of using the texts for confirmation bias (like an evangelical) they were trying to understand the teachings.
andaraven
And often, the more they understand, the harder they lean away from their faith.
Beasag
Evangelicals don't study religion. They just make it up as they go along.
Arbitrarynamehere
You should read or listen to literally any theologians or religious scholars if you're even slightly interested. They're woke af and understand exactly how the sausage is made
bobbobbybobbington
even if it isn't that it is theology, even if you took only christian theologists, i think they would come out as "democrat" because republicans don't want to study the bible, they already know it supports everything they believe, their pastor told them so
TimeFoDat
That’s not even as shocking as economics being bluer than engineering. I work at a university and that feels 100% bullshitty. Predictably, the closer the concentration is tied to money, the more conservative the faculty. Science and Art have the opposite effect. I doubt this graphic is accurate or the study itself is a big bias bomb.
TSeventhSon
Most religions are liberal, the problem is the conservatives who try to warp the teachings into conservative practices.
Madalchemist2018
Unless they work at Trager or Liberty U the clichés would have trouble getting a position.
Tenure Committee: Tell us about your prior studies, what you plan to add to the university and knowledge you can share with students.
GOP "scholar": I study both kinds Baptist and American.
Bohrdumb
I mean... ALL of my professors in seminary were extremely liberal. It was a a school in DC, to be fair, but still...
nikinnorway12
the more you learn about it, the more you understand the problem
CoqRoq
The pope is literally beefing with the US president right now... why do you think that is?
Sebastopol140
tHE PopE iS wOKe!
ThailandExpress
Jesus is a socialist
killerwhaleindisguise
As my great-grandmother used to say.
Filanwizard
I hate to regurge this link because its been brought up so many times and its now 3yrs old. but, https://www.newsweek.com/evangelicals-rejecting-jesus-teachings-liberal-talking-points-pastor-1818706 this is very telling of how parts of the religious right are going in the USA.
DrewThe3DPrinterGuy
They probably mean Theology, the study of religion.
dorpjorp
B-b-b-bingo!
Professors, not priests.
xeoxion
Most likely religious studies. Encompassing more than one religion.
Sebastopol140
Ah yeah, makes sense.
bobbobbybobbington
i wondered if the republicans not being very into studying religion would skew the dem/rep bias, i haven't met a republican who discusses and debates theology
HighSorcerer
That's because theological republicans are absolutists. As far as they're concerned what they say is absolutely the truth regardless of any evidence to the contrary, so why would they debate it with anybody?
Filanwizard
I like to say the problem with certain kinds of religious people is they treat their good book as a GPS and not a compass. That is they follow it literally instead of bringing their own map and using it to merely help them stay on course.