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valkuma
Now that they have successfully split the vote in to as many fragments as possible, I for one welcome our new trump overlord.
iupvotekitties
It's totally about winning. I'd rather see Gary Johnson win over the ass or the bitch.
SamArt53
Voting for NON DeRps (Demos & Repubs) may be throwing a vote away, but at least I'll have a clear conscience that I wasn't a lemming voter!
awefulcrowded23
So utterly sick of the political cynicism in this country. It could be about winning if people weren't such cowards
perfectlyrics
Wouldn't it send a better message to write in Sanders than vote for someone antithetical to the progressive message?
StillNotYouTube
Write in's won't be reported, only people actually on the ballot.
curmudgeonlyoldfart
No voter gets everything they want. If you torpedo the party closest to your views by voting 3rd party, you will get none of what you want.
DystopianReality
I don't identify with either party enough to willingly support a bad candidate.
literallymike
But remember this...he has his own policies. Don't vote for him for being "Not Trump/Hilary." Do your damn research.
changedusernamecosmykiddiscoveredmyrudeone
Seriously, vote third party. They won't win but a spike in popularity will definitely make the big two pay attention.
gooplux6
Yiur vote is your vote, cant throw it away if you use it, no matter who it is.
eedoe
Thank you! What I tell people every day. I've had this argument ever since Clinton/Bush/Perot.
gweblurker
Ross for boss.
GTimgur
Nah, Jill Stein.
NZSheeps
As a non-'Mericun, Hurry up and have the damn election, already!
FckYoGrapes
We're just getting started!
BaronVonnChickenPants
Just like the Brexit protest voters who woke up shocked to find they'd voted themselves out of the EU.
RiverBear
I swear to god if trump wins b/c of u people I will get Jon Stewart & we will come to your houses & make snarky comments!! U've been warned
Csel
a good number of republicans and conservatives are considering Johnson too though.
CarolinHR
Can I come? I can be v snarky I promise
bigmacsasquatch
I'm interested if this election will be the start of us looking beyond the two parties. Because if it isn't, I don't know what it will take.
ArtMadeofYourComment
Two parties works best, just not our current BS parties. It would be better as Authoritarians/Libertarians than Dems/Reps.
StillNotYouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3M4br46s7A
V1nd1c7u5
Hitler vs Stalin probably
thanatos777
Rewriting the constitution to not make a two-party system an inevitable consequence of our system of governance.
Slim617
Do you want trump? This is how you get trump
hepcat10
I remember people saying this four years ago. Nope.
MarcelloBiafra
And 8, 12, and especially 16 years ago.
MoistMyEvilMoistureBuddy
This is exactly the mentality people should have.
Snowraptor
Voting for "not that guy" isn't an educated vote, it's voting for the next most popular person according to the internet.
MoistMyEvilMoistureBuddy
I didn't actually say anything about voting for whoever the internet tells you to.
Tinkerbellatrix
Still writing in Lemon Party.
BananaShip
Sounds like a fun party, we should join
pinkflyingelephants
Write in Bernie
lichenit
Pants party all the way
waltjrimmer
I'm in total support of Toga Party.
arcgap
look up the Lemon party you may convert
aFactIsAFact
https://media.giphy.com/media/12oQNsLa6CccDu/giphy.gif
LeCacty
#PukingDog2016
ddfitzy
Beware the spoiler effect if a 3rd party candidate is politically close to say Hillary that can split the vote and hand the victory to Trump
evilspock
Because taking advice from the Joker is a good idea.
QWTFODDBALL
Nobody will be listening. We aren't even human to them. We are things, easily manipulated and existing only to service them.
Iarry
I've seen a lot of support for Johnson recently now that Sanders was eliminated from the running. Are a lot of Johnson's supporters ex Bern?
Ch3mis7
not if they were paying attention. social dems are like a nanny state. libs favor a individual state gov the social norm, loose definitions.
Csel
Libs are socially liberal, they generally dont want government stopping gay marriage, drug control, and such. so it still appeals to liberal
Iarry
I was just confused because I know one of Bernie's big things was on free college, while Johnson wants to cut government loans for it
Csel
libertarians want gov hands off basically everything, socially and economically. everything privately run and let citizens do what they want
ah12
Fuck this post. "Hey IMGUR, let's just vote for the other person". Fuck this. Make an informed decision.
LordSupergreat
We are informed. It's nearly impossible to avoid getting informed about Trump and Clinton. The problem is that both options suck.
hearthstoneaccount3
and you think Johnson is better? His fiscal policies suck balls
LordSupergreat
Oh, not at all. Personally, I think libertarians are nutjobs. But I sympathize with the desire to not vote for Trump or Clinton.
servingmytimeinusersub
The president isn't supposed to wield power but draw attention from those that do.
Shaitara
Why would you send a message by voting for an unknown? Thats called "throwing away your vote"
letsnotandsaywemight
Its about voting for the candidate you want to be the president.
grody
In an electoral college style system, the only message it's sending is "Please ignore this vote." Sucks, yeah, but in Pres. elections, (con)
Csel
when a party gets 5% of the popular vote they get campaign finance reimbursement, and i think 10% and they get reserved spot for debates.
Csel
so even if it's not winning the election your vote for a 3rd party helps them, and maybe longterm who knows.
grody
it's a winner take all type game. If you REALLY want to make a change, you need to be voting for all of your local elections. You need(con)
grody
to vote in local district, local city, local county, local state, all of that stuff, vote for the party you support. A party with no (cont)
grody
representation at a state or national level will have LITERALLY ZERO PRESENCE on the Electoral College and will be ignored. Change the(cont)
grody
foundation first, change the building blocks, vote in months other than Nov. and vote often, and THEN, you might crack the 2 party system.
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
But Libertarians are assholes, so that message sucks too
MidgetRacer8192
no, it LITERALLY is about winning. its too polarized anymore. its almost where either you love or hate a candidate, theres no in between.
ThatWillBuffOut
The message being '5% of people are willing to vote for some plausible looking dude in a suit if he gets mentioned on the internet a bit.'
Mimsey
The fuck? That applies to the mainstream candidates much more. Few people are voting Johnson or Stein without doing research.
wmort
First it's 5%. Then it's 7%. If we keep voting, more money will be given to these parties, and money is what makes a viable party.
DystopianReality
Or, maybe, that centrist voters aren't satisfied with the main party alternatives for the last four or five cycles running?
thanatos777
Centrist voters are basically completely in control of the two parties.
DystopianReality
If this is true, then why do we keep pandering to the fringe elements on the right or the left?
IveBeenSlackingMyWholeLife
We don't... They pay them lipservice and that's all
thanatos777
Neither Donald Trump nor Hillary Clinton have extremely conservative nor extremely liberal views. Donald trump has some crazy racist 1/2
thanatos777
shit going on, but given that his party is full of racists, that's not unexpected. 2/2
DuggFunnie
Also, you're literally pushing DNC propaganda with the "Trump is le racist" meme. https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/757081823235244032
DuggFunnie
Prove that Donald Trump is remotely racist. I'm sick of that accusation with no proof.
iospace
If voting third party sent a message, Green Party and Reform would still be relevant. They're not.
SquirrelyTunic
Voting for a third isn't about creating another major party, but getting rid of them.
nightfly04
Yup
nopespidersnope
Right, because the 90's in America was a time when we were really unhappy and needed another option
Corrodias
I'm not sure whether you're trying to be sarcastic here or not. The 90's were nice enough but not exactly "glory days".
ThisUsernameIsTotallyUseless
Yeah. Till they get a decent showing in the lower races, 3rd parties will still fail to be a mature organization
vocalminority
This. You don't build a viable 3rd party running for president. You do it winning local races and building up. Get a senator first.
ArcaneConjecture
The Green Party *did* send a message. The message was: "Bush gets Florida's electoral votes". End of message.
iospace
Yes, but is it still relevant now? That's the big question.
DJGnarly
(1/2) The Libertarian party is moderate offshoot of a progressively more close minded and dangerous Republican Party.
MeowWoof
The Libertarians are more moderate on social issues, but are more extreme on fiscal/small government.
daelith
I wouldn't call them "moderate" on social issues. They're extreme left socially, extreme right fiscally. Average = moderate.
SeriousBusinessman
That's not how it works haha
DJGnarly
(2/2) It stands a chance because it is a moderate party with more appeal on both sides of the aisle.
thehandsomedoctor
It has zero appeal (and it's pretty scary tbh) to anyone even moderately left wing.
daelith
Except for all of the socially left policies.
thehandsomedoctor
politics is mostly economy, and the social issues are more "non regressive" than "left-wing" by any standard
vocalminority
Those don't outweigh the 'pay for college yourself' and 'healcare for nobody' fiscal attitudes though.