About 18 million of the 22 million comments sent to the F.C.C. during the debate over the net neutrality rules were fake…thanks to BROADBAND FOR AMERICA

May 8, 2021 2:39 AM

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Internet service providers funded an effort that yielded millions of fake comments supporting the Federal Communications Commission’s repeal of so-called net neutrality rules in 2017, the New York attorney general said on Thursday.

Internet providers, working through a group called Broadband for America, spent $4.2 million on the project, Attorney General Letitia James said. The effort generated roughly nine million comments to the agency and letters to Congress backing the rollback, almost all signed by people who had never agreed to the use of their names on such comments, according to the investigation. Some of the names had been obtained earlier, in other marketing efforts, officials said. The agency approved the repeal in late 2017.

Broadband for America’s members include some of America’s most prominent internet providers, like AT&T, Comcast and Charter, as well as several trade groups.

Supporters of the repeal regularly cited the number of comments opposing the rules. Investigators said Broadband for America had “commissioned and publicized a third-party study” of how many comments were being submitted, and then briefed F.C.C. officials on their findings as part of their push. “Instead of actually looking for real responses from the American people, marketing companies are luring vulnerable individuals to their websites with freebies, co-opting their identities and fabricating responses that giant corporations are then using to influence the policies and laws that govern our lives,” Ms. James said in a statement.

The report said investigators had not found evidence that Broadband for America or the lobbying firm it used for the campaign was aware of the fraud. But, the attorney general said, several “significant red flags” appeared “shortly after the campaign started, and continued for months yet still remained unheeded.”

The attorney general’s office said it had reached agreements with three “lead generation” services that were involved — Fluent, Opt-Intelligence and React2Media, companies that gather customers for clients as part of marketing efforts. Under the agreements, the companies said they would more clearly disclose to individuals how their personal information was being used. The companies also agreed to pay over $4 million in penalties.

In a statement, Fluent said the matter had been resolved “in a way that provides clarity and sets a new standard in the political advocacy space.” It noted that many of the changes in the agreement “were already adopted years ago.”

Broadband for America, AT&T, Charter and Comcast did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The report offers a window into how some broadband providers and their representatives in Washington tried to shape the debate over the net neutrality rules, which forbade them to block content, slow it down or make people pay more to deliver it faster.

Ajit Pai, then the chairman of the Federal Communications Commission, announced a plan to repeal the rules in April 2017. Around the same time, Broadband for America started to pay providers of lead generation services millions of dollars to generate comments at the F.C.C. and letters to Congress supporting the repeal.

Investigators said Broadband for America had acted to give Mr. Pai “cover” to repeal the broadband regulations. The internet providers have staunchly opposed attempts to regulate the industry for years, including by pushing for Congress to approve weaker rules instead.

In total, about 18 million of the 22 million comments sent to the F.C.C. during the debate over the net neutrality rules were fake, the investigation found. More than nine million fake comments were filed at the F.C.C. supporting the rules, arguing that repealing them would leave consumers paying more for a slower internet, according to investigators. A 19-year-old computer science student was responsible for more than 7.7 million of them.

The activist group Fight for the Future and several news outlets raised early concerns about the possibility that some of the comments were fake, after individuals whose names appeared on messages to the F.C.C. said they had not signed on to them.

“The public record should be a place for honest dialogue, but today’s report demonstrates how the record informing the F.C.C.’s net neutrality repeal was flooded with fraud,” Jessica Rosenworcel, the agency’s acting chairwoman, said in a statement. “This was troubling at the time because even then the widespread problems with the record were apparent.”

…this is the entire article because of paywall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/06/technology/internet-providers-fake-comments-net-neutrality-new-york.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=Technology

Check out Broadband For America’s website “To Take Action” https://www.broadbandforamerica.com/

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Someone should make a searchable list of names they used so we could sue the companies for Identity theft

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Dodgy company? Stop buying from them. Dodgy government? Stop paying taxes. If we all do that at the same time, they are fucked. Utopy I know

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yeah $4 million is about as weighty as being lightly flogged with scented show laces, I'm sure they won't subvert democracy again

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Fucking assholes at Comcast used my name for this. I received a reply from a congressman that I had never written to.

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And will any of them get jail time??

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I believe they just get a 4 mil fine. Which will stop absolutely nothing

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Disgusting

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

What are the repercussions for this

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The Industry working against the people. With how locked in people are for service choices in the US by Location, they need some punishment.

5 years ago | Likes 209 Dislikes 1

Punished by who? The wimpy democrats or the republicans the corporations own?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

*"No direct evidence." It's say even in the unlikely event they didn't know, they should have had better oversight of their ssubcontractor

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

... and should be held responsible for their actions.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I'm confused as to why this was necessary. Surely the FCC was already bought and paid for and the "public consultation" was a sham?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Ajit Pai couldn't just repeal net neutrality on a whim even though he wanted to. There has to be a veneer of legitimacy.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Your right to internet was worth 4million. These penalties should be a lot higher, at this point the laws are a speed bump not a deterrent

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I saw this, it pisses me off, will anything be done....fuck no, it isn't profitable to do so

5 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 1

Gotta push your representatives. That is what they are there for.

5 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Pushed them during the vote...wrote so many emails, actual letters, tweets. Now? Won't be fixed

5 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

Timing is everything. Also, constant pressure. Give up and it lets them off the hook.

5 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

Wasn't this news when it happened?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Nothing will be done

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Of all the distopian futures, I never would have guessed that Herbert's Butlarian Jihad might be our way out. Smash the machines!

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

So we gonna do it again and properly? No? So we know it was fraudulent but choose to accept the results anyway? Anyone getting punished? No?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

"More than nine million fake comments were filed at the F.C.C. supporting the rules ..." ??

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Yup. People are ignoring that. But we faked almost as much as the other guys. But our side was some kid, they had hundreds working on it.

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Nine million counts of fraud.

5 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

*18 million counts of fraud. 9 million of it was supporting the net neutrality rules restricting internet companies. To be a smoke screen.

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To give a legitimate reason to ignore the actual people complaining because "oh it was all a bunch of bots"

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If you read one line further, over 7 million of the comments came from one computer science student.

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Which tells me it was a kid fucking around, basically.

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He got paid.

5 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

Seems equally likely that he was a chan kid who thought he was "helping".

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I remember they had to close their comment system because they cited a flood of bot responses. My impression was bots against. Guess not.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I hope America actually does something for once. Reverse the ruling and take over the companies

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Sounds like a recipe for a massive crippling fine.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

America is a failed state and a criminal empire.

5 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

So uh, we gonna fix it?

5 years ago | Likes 121 Dislikes 0

Absolutely fucking not.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

We should fix it. I'd like to see that on a t-shirt.

5 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Fix it? Like jail for the people running the companies that paid for and directed a huge campaign of stolen identities to change laws for $

5 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 1

This would also look cool on a t-shirt

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The multi-billionaires paid the fine, so it's all good, no need to revisit old legislation, let's move on and heal,

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Doubt it

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

We should start a petition. Or maybe the democrats can set up a committee.

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

The only way the right can get their ideals enacted is by doing shit like this, because they know they don’t have support.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

$4 million is nothing to them. A slap on the wrist. Might as well shake your finger at them and say they've been very naughty.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Fuck that smug, punchable asshole with Paige's entire collection. At once.

5 years ago | Likes 486 Dislikes 2

Didn't he step down?

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Paige, no. Oh wait, yes. Definitely yes.

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5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

I forgot they made that video

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5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it took only a moment of watching that for my mind to grow that damn smile so large, it became his face.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

i simple pineapple will do

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Remember who we're talking about. Is restraint *REALLY* called for here?

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

it worked for hitler. by the devil himself

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

He s just an peon. Stop letting companies rule your own country dammit!

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

With that fucking novelty Reese’s cup.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

$ 4 mill in penalties seems a little meak for 9million cases of document fraud?

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Excuse me 18 million cases, I didn't read the headline but went straight to the text. It doesn't even qualify as a slap on the wrist.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The second Trump got elected internet neutrality was F’d no bytching if you didn’t vote.

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

...and so they got arrested for identity theft and the law is being reinstated, right?.. RIGHT?

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

looks like conspiracy and fraud, should set examples, instead just making careers. Plz return our spines.

5 years ago | Likes 24 Dislikes 0

Oh, they have plausible deniability against the conspiracy. The cable corps only told them to get comments, never told them how.

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

If anything justifies death penalty, this shit does. Conspiring to overthrow the will of the people. Antithetical to democracy.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Oh noes, big corporations did a massive crime, that would land anybody in jail for life. Report finds that nobody gets jailed or punished.

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I'd like to see this on a t-shirt

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

now you know they are going to scapegoat this shit on some middle manager

5 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"A 19-year-old computer science student was responsible for more than 7.7 million of them". I'd like to have a word with him.

5 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Yup. That kid caused *a lot* of damage.

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Their 7.7 million were in favor of net neutrality. They were, in their eyes, fighting the good fight for us.

5 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Well, half due to them. The fake comments were split between pro- and anti- NN. The actual news to it was that the anti-NN comments used

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people's names without consent, even to the point of forging consent forms.

5 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Right, so half for/half against? Does this mean we noticed what they were doing and counteracted with an equal amount of pro net-neutrality?

5 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

nope. they juse added a few pro net-neutrality just to free there hand it would be stupid for them to also flood the pro neutrality

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The whole article is about how they sourced these comments to the people who posted them. The 18 million false comments were evenly split

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

more or less betwee pro- and anti-. Those anti-NN used different methods and stole identities. Those pro-NN generally did not.

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because then they whould had achived nothing and fraud would be even easier to detect the ide was to use there larger girth to blame all on

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pro net or something like that and sweep the against net under the rug.

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Ajit was a former verizon exec, and stonewalled all attempts to investigate the events of the commenting phase. And it worked, because we're

5 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yes, to the first. To the second question, I think this issue was so important to some people, and we so expected foul play from the start,

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that people just went and did it because it was that important. Commenting was overwhelming and quickly shut down (under circumstances that

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were dubiously claimed to be technical issues), so it's unlikely that a pattern was seen to emerge and a response formed.

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