Oct 15, 2020 7:32 AM
MadBadHated
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How did you go from this..
..to this?
gostoso666
#GrabHimByTheBallot
Phriendzone
Please on 11/3/20 end the madness. We’re better than this, aren’t we?
proracing53
MechKelly
And apparently that was another lie as he isn't even rich.
SavageDrums
Greed. Rich people influencing politics for decades to get their desired outcomes at the expense of everything else.
Sully0811
The parties failed to represent their constituents so badly, and for so long, that a an outsider gag candidate won.
AndICannotStressThisEnoughBRUH
Even that rich part is disputable
sempytender
Hamlet Act 3, scene 4
PsychRealms
Eisenhower would have personally shot Trump !!!
vfxcookingsaab
Because the only people left in the party are rich morons. Not men with ideas to help the world.
unhelpfulrobot
Trump has literally never had a thought like this. I'm not even sure he would understand it if he read it.
underestimated37
There’s a deeper reason; the republicans of today really can’t be compared to republicans pre 1964 as there was a policy shift
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/8a43tp/myth_or_fact_did_the_us_political_parties_switch/ has some great info
StonesOnTheHill
Seriously, is there any good quote out of that guys mouth? Has he said anything to stir the hearts of men? At all?
infernalcombustionengine
Said he wont speak to us again if he doesn't get elected
Fluckers
He's only preaching what he's been taught. There is no intelligence present. He is motivated by ego. His followers are disillusioned into
summersunshine420
thinking they can be like him or that he represents a working class that is awaiting validation and wealth. They have been misrepresented.
Revanlongfellow
Lol skipped history class did we. Trumps nothing but a symptom. Not the cause.
laaaaaaaan
Eisenhower was one of five people in US history to hold the rank of General of the Army and helped lead the D-Day invasion. Trump is (1/2)
A man-child that has been handed everything in life.
RoutemasterFlash
Also Eisenhower: Lol, let's overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran and install the Shah as a puppet monarch.
sjg1711350
Sounds like an Obama thing to do too, or every US President lol
Hybris51129
Also he continued Truman's policies on containing the spread of Communism.
Gayforbae
It advanced american interests. For a while.
heerobya
Watch the Oliver Stone untold US history series on Netflix. Think you’re angry now? Just wait!
jimmyhowlett
This is what they wanted.
KleptoKea
If any of you Americans here are sick of Trump but you haven't voted yet, go and fucking do it now. 1/
There is no excuse for failing your most basic duty to your own democracy, the way so many of you did in the last election. 2/2
dogboybastard
The New America........
bluerazzgummy
Ooooih that’s a bingo
illogicalphallusies
society is always those that fight to make a "new world" for their kids, kids who grow up half knowing, kids who grow up not knowing, and 1/
2/ then kids who are so far unattached from the original plan that they make a new plan....and its ALWAYS a hard transition which may result
3/ in the fall of an empire sometimes. GenZ is that for americans. sometimes your country survives though (like france killing their nobles)
the difference is today is the capability of tracking, everyone who killed caesar then ran the country, whoever killed trump would die too
turkletoon
At some point we've devalued intelligence.
or0b0ur0s
Oligarchs, aristocrats, & tyrants always devalue the intelligence of everyone but themselves and their few, trusted allies.
Zyrixion
The GOP spent the last 5 decades doing that for us, sculpting cultural values in such a way and destroying education in the country as well.
mie501
Nixon's Southern Strategy. Apparently putting out "CALLING ALL RACISTS!" as your campaign slogan really waters down your party's values.
Fauxcused
It does and I hope it fits the GOP. It gave them a Trump Presidency but I hope it fits these pricks in the long run.
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
True. Trump wasn't the first one to say I don't care about the larger damage that I create as long as I win. Burn in hell, Tricky Dick.
BurntRamen
Southern Strategy was devised by Lee Atwater. There's a recording of him explaining it in youtube.
FlatPlutoSociety
Lee Atwater was one of the worst people in the history of American politics. The amount of damage he did in his short life is unbelievable.
practicallyperfect
“Lee seemed to delight in making fun of a suicidal 16-year-old who was treated for depression" (Wikipedia)... this sounds familiar...
BurberryBlessings
A deathbed conversion and repentence highlighted by a Bible found after his death still wrapped in plastic.
Bloody hell...
Just read a few sources. The man was a serious piece of work!
TheHellbilly
I'm not as rich as Trump, but I also have no debt. Like not at all. So..
Othernate
Then you may, in fact, be richer than our president. :P
casbott
There's a chance that everyone reading this is richer than Trump - he may have negative equity of millions …
I recon I am, but he still has higher stantard of living. Not fair. ?
DarwinsWeasel
A: Arseholes who love Trump because he promised to fuck up the establishment. Well, the whole US is so fucked up, it is down the shitter.
johneventually1
Mission accomplished
blakity19000
FINALLY! A message of hope!
middleburgh
Vote Trump out and reclaim values, decency and democracy
exterminans
"Vote Trump" middleburgh, Okt. 2020
That is at least what I read after the first two words and I was shocked to my bones....
And yes I know it wrongly quoted, but I think it is fitting.
Cranbananarama
Clone past presidents.
ThisPleasesZulthar
I initially read this as "reclaim values, democracy, and democracy"
UsernamesAreStupidAnyways
It's gonna take more than voting him out for you to do that. But it *is* a start.
Velisity
My biggest fear is he’s going to win due to fraud and no one is going to do anything about it.
Ohmydicksmalltoo
I mean, happened the first time. Scary times, my friend.
Rektastic
nowadays they'll just refuse to have any of those things, they'd prefer to double down with orange racist cheeto and voter suppression
TinyLiehon
#TrumpSus
Gandalfsuglybrother
At this point I would settle for decency
nounthennumbers
You know I am not even concerned about the “values” part. Values can be pretty debatable. I want to get back to the “decency” thing.
TheBoysInTheLab
Just remember is that "Vote Trump out" and "Reclaim Values" are separate steps. Getting Orange Fuck out is only the start of the work.
singedrino
What about... dunno, more than 2 parties and more clear representation between right and left. Btw, the GOP should disappear.
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
Eisenhower's corpse 2020
SpaceJunkFunk
You think that’s democracy you got going on over there? Totalitarian tip toe has started to stride!
puzzledJack
And also vote to end voter suppression by unsuppressing your vote!
ThunderChief00
If Biden wins voting reform should be top of the to-do list.
Varimothras
Trump and his policies first, we'll have a little time before the next significant elections
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
SCOTUS term limits would be my #1.
beneottercumbersnoot
OR...vote him in again for the chance of a lifetime: get a fiddle and pretend your Nero. I mean how often does a superpower nation fall? /s
theoldesttrickinthebook32
Vote 3rd party. The Democratic Party is also a problem, and I think the two party system is hurting America. Fear voting isn’t going to work
I the the left and right has the potential to tear us apart, and I’ll have no part of it. I love America. Eff the duopoly!!
I think* the
Gosuamakenatek
The republican party has been getting worse and worse for decades, Trump isn't the problem, just a symptom. They need a 40 year time out.
Evi1Gav
Go read the Mitch McConnell page on wiki. He is largely responsible for why us politics is so appalling.
gaiidraws2
The entire party has to go. They have no ideas on how to make average Americans lives better, it's all wedge issues, racism and tax cuts.
latefodinner
You mean both parties right? Why stop with republicans, they’re all absolutely worthless!
ochermes28
The Democrats are beholden to big labor. The Republicans are beholden to big business. What’s the difference!
WorthEveryPenny
Take your republican apologist propaganda elsewhere. Democratic party is far from perfect, but its actually trying. GOP ain't even pretendin
Spare me your both sides nonsense, I actually pay attention to politics and can see nuance.
Ihzaak
"My side good, other side bad." isn't particularly nuanced... Both parties can be shitty in their own ways.
cheesypundit
The problem is "us" vs "them", as this comment shows. Get rid of winner-takes-all, distribute the power by votes and the madness stops.
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cepacolusmaximus
Surgery first. Then Chemo.
7hatsBollocks
The us vs them issues are being driven home BY the gop themselves. So be it then. Bad faith traitors.
That's because they want it to be "us vs them", it works to their advantage. Time for a fundamental change to take away their power.
NobleDictator
Until we do something about it
YourfavouriteAsian
As a non Us person, from the outside it looks like all politicians (both sides) are pushing for that division. Which ultimately benefits
Them and not the common guy, who is likely to follow others based on emotions/feelings, rather than logic. Tribalism is rooted deeply into
gostoso666
#GrabHimByTheBallot
Phriendzone
Please on 11/3/20 end the madness. We’re better than this, aren’t we?
proracing53
MechKelly
And apparently that was another lie as he isn't even rich.
SavageDrums
Greed. Rich people influencing politics for decades to get their desired outcomes at the expense of everything else.
Sully0811
The parties failed to represent their constituents so badly, and for so long, that a an outsider gag candidate won.
AndICannotStressThisEnoughBRUH
Even that rich part is disputable
sempytender
Hamlet Act 3, scene 4
PsychRealms
Eisenhower would have personally shot Trump !!!
vfxcookingsaab
Because the only people left in the party are rich morons. Not men with ideas to help the world.
unhelpfulrobot
Trump has literally never had a thought like this. I'm not even sure he would understand it if he read it.
underestimated37
There’s a deeper reason; the republicans of today really can’t be compared to republicans pre 1964 as there was a policy shift
underestimated37
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/8a43tp/myth_or_fact_did_the_us_political_parties_switch/ has some great info
StonesOnTheHill
Seriously, is there any good quote out of that guys mouth? Has he said anything to stir the hearts of men? At all?
infernalcombustionengine
Said he wont speak to us again if he doesn't get elected
Fluckers
He's only preaching what he's been taught. There is no intelligence present. He is motivated by ego. His followers are disillusioned into
summersunshine420
Fluckers
thinking they can be like him or that he represents a working class that is awaiting validation and wealth. They have been misrepresented.
Revanlongfellow
Lol skipped history class did we. Trumps nothing but a symptom. Not the cause.
laaaaaaaan
Eisenhower was one of five people in US history to hold the rank of General of the Army and helped lead the D-Day invasion. Trump is (1/2)
laaaaaaaan
A man-child that has been handed everything in life.
RoutemasterFlash
Also Eisenhower: Lol, let's overthrow the democratically elected government of Iran and install the Shah as a puppet monarch.
sjg1711350
Sounds like an Obama thing to do too, or every US President lol
Hybris51129
Also he continued Truman's policies on containing the spread of Communism.
Gayforbae
It advanced american interests. For a while.
heerobya
Watch the Oliver Stone untold US history series on Netflix. Think you’re angry now? Just wait!
jimmyhowlett
This is what they wanted.
KleptoKea
If any of you Americans here are sick of Trump but you haven't voted yet, go and fucking do it now. 1/
KleptoKea
There is no excuse for failing your most basic duty to your own democracy, the way so many of you did in the last election. 2/2
dogboybastard
The New America........
bluerazzgummy
Ooooih that’s a bingo
illogicalphallusies
society is always those that fight to make a "new world" for their kids, kids who grow up half knowing, kids who grow up not knowing, and 1/
illogicalphallusies
2/ then kids who are so far unattached from the original plan that they make a new plan....and its ALWAYS a hard transition which may result
illogicalphallusies
3/ in the fall of an empire sometimes. GenZ is that for americans. sometimes your country survives though (like france killing their nobles)
illogicalphallusies
the difference is today is the capability of tracking, everyone who killed caesar then ran the country, whoever killed trump would die too
turkletoon
At some point we've devalued intelligence.
or0b0ur0s
Oligarchs, aristocrats, & tyrants always devalue the intelligence of everyone but themselves and their few, trusted allies.
Zyrixion
The GOP spent the last 5 decades doing that for us, sculpting cultural values in such a way and destroying education in the country as well.
mie501
Nixon's Southern Strategy. Apparently putting out "CALLING ALL RACISTS!" as your campaign slogan really waters down your party's values.
Fauxcused
It does and I hope it fits the GOP. It gave them a Trump Presidency but I hope it fits these pricks in the long run.
ILikedTheirOldStuffBetter
True. Trump wasn't the first one to say I don't care about the larger damage that I create as long as I win. Burn in hell, Tricky Dick.
BurntRamen
Southern Strategy was devised by Lee Atwater. There's a recording of him explaining it in youtube.
FlatPlutoSociety
Lee Atwater was one of the worst people in the history of American politics. The amount of damage he did in his short life is unbelievable.
practicallyperfect
“Lee seemed to delight in making fun of a suicidal 16-year-old who was treated for depression" (Wikipedia)... this sounds familiar...
BurberryBlessings
A deathbed conversion and repentence highlighted by a Bible found after his death still wrapped in plastic.
practicallyperfect
Bloody hell...
practicallyperfect
Just read a few sources. The man was a serious piece of work!
TheHellbilly
I'm not as rich as Trump, but I also have no debt. Like not at all. So..
Othernate
Then you may, in fact, be richer than our president. :P
casbott
There's a chance that everyone reading this is richer than Trump - he may have negative equity of millions …
TheHellbilly
I recon I am, but he still has higher stantard of living. Not fair. ?
DarwinsWeasel
A: Arseholes who love Trump because he promised to fuck up the establishment. Well, the whole US is so fucked up, it is down the shitter.
johneventually1
Mission accomplished
blakity19000
FINALLY! A message of hope!
middleburgh
Vote Trump out and reclaim values, decency and democracy
exterminans
"Vote Trump" middleburgh, Okt. 2020
exterminans
That is at least what I read after the first two words and I was shocked to my bones....
exterminans
And yes I know it wrongly quoted, but I think it is fitting.
Cranbananarama
Clone past presidents.
ThisPleasesZulthar
I initially read this as "reclaim values, democracy, and democracy"
UsernamesAreStupidAnyways
It's gonna take more than voting him out for you to do that. But it *is* a start.
Velisity
My biggest fear is he’s going to win due to fraud and no one is going to do anything about it.
Ohmydicksmalltoo
I mean, happened the first time. Scary times, my friend.
Rektastic
nowadays they'll just refuse to have any of those things, they'd prefer to double down with orange racist cheeto and voter suppression
TinyLiehon
#TrumpSus
Gandalfsuglybrother
At this point I would settle for decency
nounthennumbers
You know I am not even concerned about the “values” part. Values can be pretty debatable. I want to get back to the “decency” thing.
TheBoysInTheLab
Just remember is that "Vote Trump out" and "Reclaim Values" are separate steps. Getting Orange Fuck out is only the start of the work.
singedrino
What about... dunno, more than 2 parties and more clear representation between right and left. Btw, the GOP should disappear.
RandomlyAppointedNSAAgent
Eisenhower's corpse 2020
SpaceJunkFunk
You think that’s democracy you got going on over there? Totalitarian tip toe has started to stride!
puzzledJack
And also vote to end voter suppression by unsuppressing your vote!
ThunderChief00
If Biden wins voting reform should be top of the to-do list.
Varimothras
Trump and his policies first, we'll have a little time before the next significant elections
Deoxyribonucleicacidwashedgenes
SCOTUS term limits would be my #1.
beneottercumbersnoot
OR...vote him in again for the chance of a lifetime: get a fiddle and pretend your Nero. I mean how often does a superpower nation fall? /s
theoldesttrickinthebook32
Vote 3rd party. The Democratic Party is also a problem, and I think the two party system is hurting America. Fear voting isn’t going to work
theoldesttrickinthebook32
I the the left and right has the potential to tear us apart, and I’ll have no part of it. I love America. Eff the duopoly!!
theoldesttrickinthebook32
I think* the
Gayforbae
Gosuamakenatek
The republican party has been getting worse and worse for decades, Trump isn't the problem, just a symptom. They need a 40 year time out.
Evi1Gav
Go read the Mitch McConnell page on wiki. He is largely responsible for why us politics is so appalling.
gaiidraws2
The entire party has to go. They have no ideas on how to make average Americans lives better, it's all wedge issues, racism and tax cuts.
latefodinner
You mean both parties right? Why stop with republicans, they’re all absolutely worthless!
ochermes28
The Democrats are beholden to big labor. The Republicans are beholden to big business. What’s the difference!
WorthEveryPenny
Take your republican apologist propaganda elsewhere. Democratic party is far from perfect, but its actually trying. GOP ain't even pretendin
gaiidraws2
Spare me your both sides nonsense, I actually pay attention to politics and can see nuance.
Ihzaak
"My side good, other side bad." isn't particularly nuanced... Both parties can be shitty in their own ways.
cheesypundit
The problem is "us" vs "them", as this comment shows. Get rid of winner-takes-all, distribute the power by votes and the madness stops.
[deleted]
[deleted]
cepacolusmaximus
Surgery first. Then Chemo.
7hatsBollocks
The us vs them issues are being driven home BY the gop themselves. So be it then. Bad faith traitors.
cheesypundit
That's because they want it to be "us vs them", it works to their advantage. Time for a fundamental change to take away their power.
NobleDictator
Until we do something about it
YourfavouriteAsian
As a non Us person, from the outside it looks like all politicians (both sides) are pushing for that division. Which ultimately benefits
YourfavouriteAsian
Them and not the common guy, who is likely to follow others based on emotions/feelings, rather than logic. Tribalism is rooted deeply into