Feb 21, 2017 12:05 PM
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First time. Wiring my own house.
DoseOfScience
Dude, there's no such thing as well labeled enough.
ElecTech
Do those wires bend radius meet IPC?
mafia690
Oh also, just noticed this but the amount of romex coating you left in the box isn't up to code, At least where I live.
Most it can be is 1/4 inch
hiaruss1
Nice work.
tinnerz58
Two points, first:earth sleaving!! Second, are those bacolite trips? If so they have been illegal in the UK since the 80s... get rcbos!
Fooman45
Nice and clean
TheFonzAyy
Beaker box.
Angaram
Is this US? I have so many questions. The colour coding seems really weird.
Yes, it's the US. Red/black are hot legs, white is neutral, ground in Romex is bare copper. Would be green if sheathed but not required here
The US has only 2 phases? No 3-phase current? Ok. Didn't know that.
I'm quite obviously not an electrician, but if I recall correctly there is three phase, usually in Commercial or Industrial not residential
Mudboss
Going to have to call you on running branch ccts through the consumer service portion of the panel.
I honestly have no idea what that means. Expound on it a bit please? Branch Ccts I understand but not the last part.
Is the top of the panel where main bkr is. Keeps home owner from sticking fingers in to live parts. Also bundling like that is not a good
The wires in the middle of the bundle can't displace there heat
TheBlackob
I dont know that much about wire management outside my country, i dont know what each color means, but i guess the left ones, that are 1/?
going up are the earth.. If so, are they isolated with a clear coat or are they unisolated? If they are unisolated, that this 2/?
makes me feel uncomfortable...
Unisolated but we are on 120v.
sorrowharvest
I can't tell from your picture, but the neutral (white) and your ground (bare copper) need to be bonded together as well.
If this is the first point after the service.
It's bonded in the service transfer switch for the generator. Good lookin' out though, thanks!
poorwhitetrash
I feel like wiring a panel isn't something best suited for a DIY'er regardless of of how 'neat' the wiring is. The house burns down and 1/
/2 your homeowners insurance will not cover it because it wasn't done by a licensed electrician. Also, people could get hurt.
To be fair, I'm a licensed general contractor. This happens to be my own house and my County allows homeowners to do their own wiring 1/?
I am also a licensed general contractor. Being one actually puts your license at risk (at least in FL) since it's outside of the scope 1/
/2 of your license. Just be careful and don't rely on Imgur comments to verify your main breaker panel work.
Nah man you guys are my pretest so I can make adjustments to pass the final
It just has to be cleared by the electrical inspector. I have called him on numerous occasions along the way with questions 2/2
Slendernorris1983
In England your ground or earth conductors are supposed to be sleeved not left bare.
I'm 90% certain they are in he US too!!
Sololikehan
In Chicago they must be sleeved in green to identify them as ground. I don't know if bare ground wire is code anywhere, or a good idea?
maimedai3x
In US, bare wire is legal as a source for ground. It all depends on the specs of the job. And to the AHJ if there's reasons otherwise.
DrJoint420
Not in CHI or New York. Inspector would rip you a new asshole for that.
jargonmon
Gonna say this right now...those earth grounds are TOO close to the breakers.
majorcovert
Agreed. That is the first thing I noticed
This is the kind of feedback I wanted! Thanks, I'll fix it today.
You might wanna install a surge protector since you have 2 open slots
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I Googled photos of neat breaker boxes to find out how to make it look nice. I did keep the yellow coatings but kept them up where the 1/2
wires enter the box. 2/2
Also an electrician and I would never put those earths that close to the breakers. It's all backwards!
SleuthGluth
I'm not an electrician, but that was my first thought too.
Thanks, will fix it today
Yeah, I like to keep the grounds with their neutrals, so the next person who works on it can make easier changes.
Cause it's usually me
Well shoot, do you mean I didn't have to split the grounds and neutrals two opposite sides? Man that would have made my life so much easier
Have to? Absolutely not. I don't. But many of us see the box as their only shining moment and some go crazy for perfection. It "looks" neat.
Tomfromaut
Ist this an american Box? I'am a electrian from Austria and the Boxes look complitly different by us
FireBreathingStockBroker
Really?? Now I want to see an Australian box.
I' am working now on a new one.
A come from Austria, WE have Beer, Lederhosen and no kangoroos here in the Mountains. Ich sende you a pic, from a Box
Hahaha I missread! I'd love to see an Austrian box too
This ist for a big Flat with 250m²
Thank you! That is very interesting
DoseOfScience
Dude, there's no such thing as well labeled enough.
ElecTech
Do those wires bend radius meet IPC?
mafia690
Oh also, just noticed this but the amount of romex coating you left in the box isn't up to code, At least where I live.
mafia690
Most it can be is 1/4 inch
hiaruss1
Nice work.
tinnerz58
Two points, first:earth sleaving!! Second, are those bacolite trips? If so they have been illegal in the UK since the 80s... get rcbos!
Fooman45
Nice and clean
TheFonzAyy
Beaker box.
Angaram
Is this US? I have so many questions. The colour coding seems really weird.
iNarrateYourReply
Yes, it's the US. Red/black are hot legs, white is neutral, ground in Romex is bare copper. Would be green if sheathed but not required here
Angaram
The US has only 2 phases? No 3-phase current? Ok. Didn't know that.
iNarrateYourReply
I'm quite obviously not an electrician, but if I recall correctly there is three phase, usually in Commercial or Industrial not residential
Mudboss
Going to have to call you on running branch ccts through the consumer service portion of the panel.
iNarrateYourReply
I honestly have no idea what that means. Expound on it a bit please? Branch Ccts I understand but not the last part.
Mudboss
Is the top of the panel where main bkr is. Keeps home owner from sticking fingers in to live parts. Also bundling like that is not a good
Mudboss
The wires in the middle of the bundle can't displace there heat
TheBlackob
I dont know that much about wire management outside my country, i dont know what each color means, but i guess the left ones, that are 1/?
TheBlackob
going up are the earth.. If so, are they isolated with a clear coat or are they unisolated? If they are unisolated, that this 2/?
TheBlackob
makes me feel uncomfortable...
iNarrateYourReply
Unisolated but we are on 120v.
sorrowharvest
I can't tell from your picture, but the neutral (white) and your ground (bare copper) need to be bonded together as well.
sorrowharvest
If this is the first point after the service.
iNarrateYourReply
It's bonded in the service transfer switch for the generator. Good lookin' out though, thanks!
poorwhitetrash
I feel like wiring a panel isn't something best suited for a DIY'er regardless of of how 'neat' the wiring is. The house burns down and 1/
poorwhitetrash
/2 your homeowners insurance will not cover it because it wasn't done by a licensed electrician. Also, people could get hurt.
iNarrateYourReply
To be fair, I'm a licensed general contractor. This happens to be my own house and my County allows homeowners to do their own wiring 1/?
poorwhitetrash
I am also a licensed general contractor. Being one actually puts your license at risk (at least in FL) since it's outside of the scope 1/
poorwhitetrash
/2 of your license. Just be careful and don't rely on Imgur comments to verify your main breaker panel work.
iNarrateYourReply
Nah man you guys are my pretest so I can make adjustments to pass the final
iNarrateYourReply
It just has to be cleared by the electrical inspector. I have called him on numerous occasions along the way with questions 2/2
Slendernorris1983
In England your ground or earth conductors are supposed to be sleeved not left bare.
tinnerz58
I'm 90% certain they are in he US too!!
Sololikehan
In Chicago they must be sleeved in green to identify them as ground. I don't know if bare ground wire is code anywhere, or a good idea?
maimedai3x
In US, bare wire is legal as a source for ground. It all depends on the specs of the job. And to the AHJ if there's reasons otherwise.
DrJoint420
Not in CHI or New York. Inspector would rip you a new asshole for that.
jargonmon
Gonna say this right now...those earth grounds are TOO close to the breakers.
majorcovert
Agreed. That is the first thing I noticed
iNarrateYourReply
This is the kind of feedback I wanted! Thanks, I'll fix it today.
majorcovert
You might wanna install a surge protector since you have 2 open slots
iNarrateYourReply
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iNarrateYourReply
I Googled photos of neat breaker boxes to find out how to make it look nice. I did keep the yellow coatings but kept them up where the 1/2
iNarrateYourReply
wires enter the box. 2/2
jargonmon
Also an electrician and I would never put those earths that close to the breakers. It's all backwards!
SleuthGluth
I'm not an electrician, but that was my first thought too.
iNarrateYourReply
Thanks, will fix it today
mafia690
Yeah, I like to keep the grounds with their neutrals, so the next person who works on it can make easier changes.
mafia690
Cause it's usually me
iNarrateYourReply
Well shoot, do you mean I didn't have to split the grounds and neutrals two opposite sides? Man that would have made my life so much easier
jargonmon
Have to? Absolutely not. I don't. But many of us see the box as their only shining moment and some go crazy for perfection. It "looks" neat.
Tomfromaut
Ist this an american Box? I'am a electrian from Austria and the Boxes look complitly different by us
FireBreathingStockBroker
Really?? Now I want to see an Australian box.
Tomfromaut
I' am working now on a new one.
Tomfromaut
A come from Austria, WE have Beer, Lederhosen and no kangoroos here in the Mountains. Ich sende you a pic, from a Box
FireBreathingStockBroker
Hahaha I missread! I'd love to see an Austrian box too
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Tomfromaut
This ist for a big Flat with 250m²
FireBreathingStockBroker
Thank you! That is very interesting