As long as the USA continues to do nothing in the face of their citizens suffering then I'll continue to wait for their fascist leadership to swap over to the next dictator, who will, hopefully, be less disastrous for my country.
I mean... they got to straight up murder a bunch of innocent schoolgirls and killed god knows how many other brown people who dared defend themselves, all billed to the US taxpayers...so it's still kind of a win as far as Trump & Co is concerned.
Correct. Trump still gets paid the same even if the US is a burning trash heap. His buddies/ donors got awarded contracts to replace all the busted equipment. Then there's the misc millions he made in market manipulation and bets. The US might have lost, but Trump WON. Made off like a bandit. Cos he is one.
Iran ain't stupid. I'm willing to bet they approached Trump with their crazy demands basically being like hey you can announce this on YOUR BIRTHDAY! that's all he needed to hear.
Everybody acting like Rumpy's not gonna get a 10% cut. It ain't his or his friends' money, he didn't get bent over shit. I can only hope Iran drops their 1st nuke on MAL and their 2nd on Israel.
It never was about the war. It's about the stock market manipulation and a distraction from the Epstein files. Besides, it's not his money, it's the taxpayers, so he don't care.
Lol Oh no, no, no. As bad as Republicans tried to claim Obama's deal was, this is so much worse.
And this doesn't cover a nuclear agreement. This just agrees to TALK about an agreement... After 12 million dollars is paid Oil sanctions are removed etc
Only after that happens will thoee talks even start.
okay, but, does anyone left in the world actually think that Dorito Jackass Turd will stick to any deal he signs? He lies. He just lies. All he does is lie. Goes back on his word. His word means nothing. No promise will be kept. No word out of his fetid slur hole has any bearing on reality.
Why bother trying to make a deal with him at all. Just wait until he's dead.
Iran wants the money. 12 billion plus reparations is why they want to deal with trump. with this pedophile, its "forget the stick, just flatter the stupid son of a bitch".
As it should be - as much as Iran sucks, war should be incredibly painful for the aggressor to deter them and others from waging new ones. It's the same as what I want for Russia in Ukraine. Principles are only principles if they apply universally. Now if only both peoples held their administrations to account :/
Not just worse, SIGNIFICANTLY worse. By the end of this the US would have spent half a trillion dollars to give Iran more than what they had before the war.
Where's all those memes showing F-18s and aircraft carriers and shit with "Y'all about to find out why the US has no healthcare!"? Turns out, we have no healthcare AND a shitty military. At least under this administration.
That's not the deal Trump cares about though. You think Trump makes less money if the US burns? His salary not only stays the same, he made millions in market manipulation and betting, and giving his buddies contracts to replace all the equipment Iran busted. He made BANK at the expense of the American ppl by getting American soldiers killed and bases blown up and missiles wasted. Each loss for America is a payday for one of his cronies.
Which is why he should die and the wealth gets redistributed. Absolutely none of it is anything he has earned. Start with him and then go after others.
i see that the us and allies must come up with the 300 billion + reconstruction fine.i can see it right now: trump will try to blackmail europe saying "pay the whole thing because the us doesn't care if the straight is open" bs.
60 day windows take it into August which is mighty close to November midterms. So little time for Trump to recover from the inflation and fuel prices blowback.
There's no mechanism for him to do that, unless you assume that hundreds of thousands of elected officials on all levels of government in every single state are either on board with him doing that or so cowed by him they'll let him do that. If he already can do that, why is he even bothering with suspending elections
Iran is fucking up agreeing to not produce nuclear weapons. If this entire shit show has proven anything it's that the ONLY way to ensure your nations sovereignty these days is through access to nuclear weapons.
Nah. First, Iran's nuclear weapons program was ruinously expensive and they have a lot of conventional military power that needs rebuilding. Second, they have demonstrated that they can close the Strait of Hormuz, which is strategically more flexible and more powerful than a small nuclear arsenal. Third, they need France, the UK, China, and Russia onboard, and those four do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons.
First, you can't put a price tag on ensuring no one will ever initiate hostilities against your country every again. Second, being able to shut down the Straight won't stop someone from bombing them again. We knew this was a possibility THIS time and we still did it anyway. Third, of course no one wants them to have nukes, it would mean they can't fuck with them anymore.
"Iran RECONFIRMS its NPT commitment not to produce nuclear weapons."
So the deal confirms that the Obama treaty banned them from producing nuclear weapons. Trump just signed an agreement that shows he was lying all along.
The NPT is not just between US and Iran but international and Iran never officially left this in order to not alienate other trade partners. They probably started cheating on it but you can't really blame them for that, since the only carrot in this treaty is, that other local powers also have no nuclear weapons (which is wrong, Israel has got them them) and the few nations that have them act as arbiters of peace (which is also wrong, US and Russia are in a new Imperial age).
Don't worry! It's MUCH worse than that. The Obama deal (JCPOA) had strict caps on enrichment percentage and quantities that went much further than the NPT. Plus the monitoring was far more robust and more rigid. Iran's been asserting their right to enrich since Trump ripped up the deal. This just puts them back on the path they were on 3 months ago.
Israel and others have said Iran was x months from obtaining a nuclear weapon, but Trump tore up the agreement years ago, showing Iran wasn't trying to go all the way to nuclear weapon.
Not "and others" just Israel, no other national intelligence agency in the world ever came to the conclusion that they were making progress towards weaponization, including our own, and Especially not the repeated UN checks and inspection teams.
He made his money by "placing bets" and now he's passing the bill along to the American people. He made hundreds of millions personally and now we get to pay for it by giving 300 billion to people who are going to use it to oppress and kill women and dissenters in the area. Just a fucking clown show all around.
one that wont ever pass. Israel won't stop. will be hilarious to see if Israel not allowing the war to stop with USA would be what breaks Israel's chokehold on US politics as Trump desperately wants this war over asap as its his anchor he cant escape and bibi refuses to agree to the end of war.
None, really. Not since the pacific anyway. Vietnam? Nope. Korea? Not even close. Gulf Wars? America won a single battle, said “we won the war” then had a 20 year forever war they claim is actually three separate wars. Panama and Grenada? Nope, their CIA replacement governments turned on America immediately even though operational victory was initially secured. Afghanistan? Another 20 year forever war that ended with such overwhelming Taliban victory that they now run the country.
Iirc America has a great track record... But only when the goal is destabilising a region. If chaos and instability and easily corruptible regimes that will take your dirty money to exploit their own ppl are what you want, the US is your man. If chaos and instability are NOT what you want, too bad, cos US is the modern Zeus and they are gonna stick their proverbial duck in it anyway.
What was our goal there, first it was weapons of mass destruction, then it was find Saddam, then it was rebuild the stuff we broke, then it was stop the Fallujah rebellion, then it was try to sneak away
RetirementNoirATaleOfPruneJuiceAndMurder
As long as the USA continues to do nothing in the face of their citizens suffering then I'll continue to wait for their fascist leadership to swap over to the next dictator, who will, hopefully, be less disastrous for my country.
HypnagogicHallucinations
I'd like to congratulate Iran for winning the Iran War.
Septfox
I mean... they got to straight up murder a bunch of innocent schoolgirls and killed god knows how many other brown people who dared defend themselves, all billed to the US taxpayers...so it's still kind of a win as far as Trump & Co is concerned.
Donaldbain
No, we got bent over.
vonHoopla
Correct. Trump still gets paid the same even if the US is a burning trash heap. His buddies/ donors got awarded contracts to replace all the busted equipment. Then there's the misc millions he made in market manipulation and bets. The US might have lost, but Trump WON. Made off like a bandit. Cos he is one.
gft8gd5khn101
Wow Iran profits handsomely from this and becomes quite powerful in the region. Sounds like Iran won the war.
cloudstrife046583000
Iran ain't stupid. I'm willing to bet they approached Trump with their crazy demands basically being like hey you can announce this on YOUR BIRTHDAY! that's all he needed to hear.
backrideup9
Everybody acting like Rumpy's not gonna get a 10% cut. It ain't his or his friends' money, he didn't get bent over shit. I can only hope Iran drops their 1st nuke on MAL and their 2nd on Israel.
GrandmasterSpank
So much winning.
NoPantsOhClock
duktayp
I see FIFA War medal(s) being awarded soon 🏅🥇🏅
khora
Nobel Peace committee could award the Pakistani negotiators a prize.
mstalltree
Good for them! Take advantage of the degeneracy and get those sanctions lifted. How soon will Isra*l f*ck this up though?
Okebel
It never was about the war. It's about the stock market manipulation and a distraction from the Epstein files. Besides, it's not his money, it's the taxpayers, so he don't care.
cambriago13
We'll done, Fat Skeletor. You fucking ass clown.
rezpawner
"and allies", so US and israel then? Don't think the rest of us are considered "allies" anymore.
cgt9803
Remember when Obama released $400m of frozen Iranian funds and the Fox Dickhead Chorus screamed he was "giving taxpayer money to terrists"
Selfinflictedwounds
Lol Oh no, no, no. As bad as Republicans tried to claim Obama's deal was, this is so much worse.
And this doesn't cover a nuclear agreement. This just agrees to TALK about an agreement...
After 12 million dollars is paid
Oil sanctions are removed etc
Only after that happens will thoee talks even start.
Its so bad
thomn8r
12 *billion* dollars - with a "B"
chaylar
okay, but, does anyone left in the world actually think that Dorito Jackass Turd will stick to any deal he signs? He lies. He just lies. All he does is lie. Goes back on his word. His word means nothing. No promise will be kept. No word out of his fetid slur hole has any bearing on reality.
Why bother trying to make a deal with him at all. Just wait until he's dead.
albakSPrince
Iran wants the money. 12 billion plus reparations is why they want to deal with trump. with this pedophile, its "forget the stick, just flatter the stupid son of a bitch".
chaylar
bet he'll still fuck it up worse somehow.
lalalalsblablabal
Please sign and share this eu citizens initiative for full suspension of EU-Israel association agreement:

https://eci.ec.europa.eu/055/public/#/screen/home
Sorrontis
So, worse then where we were before it all started. Fuckin' A. USA USA USA!
Selfinflictedwounds
To be back where we started...even 1/2+ trillion deeper in debt, would be a massive win compared to ... this. Even if half of it is true.
And it hasn't even gotten to the nuclear agreement. This is beyond bad
theworldcouldbeflat
Actually better because this means Europe can totally eliminate Russian oil.
spiffylookingnerfherder
IDK why you're getting downvoted, that IS a positive possibility.
insaaanity
As it should be - as much as Iran sucks, war should be incredibly painful for the aggressor to deter them and others from waging new ones. It's the same as what I want for Russia in Ukraine. Principles are only principles if they apply universally. Now if only both peoples held their administrations to account :/
Samja192
Not just worse, SIGNIFICANTLY worse. By the end of this the US would have spent half a trillion dollars to give Iran more than what they had before the war.
Bubble181
Give'm half of Musk's holdings, just for funsies
jaecyk10
With the notable exception of all the people the US and Israel killed in Iran.
reverendbonobo
Soon he'll be bragging about how he ended the war and brought gas prices down.
Bizarkly
Don't forget the whopper topper: "I got a better deal than Obama!" (Of course not.)
delpharseven
He will absolutely use this as an example of why he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize.
OriginalAndWitty
Where's all those memes showing F-18s and aircraft carriers and shit with "Y'all about to find out why the US has no healthcare!"? Turns out, we have no healthcare AND a shitty military. At least under this administration.
DandyLion23
Art of the deal... Classic Trump
MoreOfABrewerReally
Shart of the Deal
vonHoopla
That's not the deal Trump cares about though. You think Trump makes less money if the US burns? His salary not only stays the same, he made millions in market manipulation and betting, and giving his buddies contracts to replace all the equipment Iran busted. He made BANK at the expense of the American ppl by getting American soldiers killed and bases blown up and missiles wasted. Each loss for America is a payday for one of his cronies.
Nooooooooooooooooooooo
Which is why he should die and the wealth gets redistributed. Absolutely none of it is anything he has earned. Start with him and then go after others.
BuiltonSin
Billions, even in conservative estimates. That's just personal wealth. Family, friends, donors...
copingcabana
It's okay. Trump never met a contract he didn't breach.
SeasonedCitizen
Like George Costanza negotiating with NBC for 1/3 the money they were offered.
WowThatUsernameIsSoOriginal
i see that the us and allies must come up with the 300 billion + reconstruction fine.i can see it right now: trump will try to blackmail europe saying "pay the whole thing because the us doesn't care if the straight is open" bs.
genericgelatine
Benefits: 0
This is nothing more than rebranding the Obama Agreement into the trump deal.
Costs: Countless innocent lives, massive decrease of world stability, unlimited American taxpayer dollars
PennysWorthOfTea
Now, now, lets not overlook all the benefits for those no-bid, Trump-network contractors who will be making bank to "help rebuild"
khora
Oh, no. This is way worse than the Obama deal.
eyespy95523
Which inexperienced dopes are going to be involved during the final negotiation window?
WeAreFriendsNow
60 day windows take it into August which is mighty close to November midterms. So little time for Trump to recover from the inflation and fuel prices blowback.
Good.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Or he restarts the war (or a 'new' one) and says midterms are suspended.
B3N15
There's no mechanism for him to do that, unless you assume that hundreds of thousands of elected officials on all levels of government in every single state are either on board with him doing that or so cowed by him they'll let him do that. If he already can do that, why is he even bothering with suspending elections
ExplodingPortaPotty
Iran is fucking up agreeing to not produce nuclear weapons. If this entire shit show has proven anything it's that the ONLY way to ensure your nations sovereignty these days is through access to nuclear weapons.
mohammadbinsalmon
you're 100% correct and i hope they make them secretly, but that would probably be a bridge too far for trump (publicly)
delpharseven
Nah. First, Iran's nuclear weapons program was ruinously expensive and they have a lot of conventional military power that needs rebuilding. Second, they have demonstrated that they can close the Strait of Hormuz, which is strategically more flexible and more powerful than a small nuclear arsenal. Third, they need France, the UK, China, and Russia onboard, and those four do not want Iran to have nuclear weapons.
ExplodingPortaPotty
First, you can't put a price tag on ensuring no one will ever initiate hostilities against your country every again. Second, being able to shut down the Straight won't stop someone from bombing them again. We knew this was a possibility THIS time and we still did it anyway. Third, of course no one wants them to have nukes, it would mean they can't fuck with them anymore.
IamIntoleranceIntolerant
"Iran RECONFIRMS its NPT commitment not to produce nuclear weapons."
So the deal confirms that the Obama treaty banned them from producing nuclear weapons. Trump just signed an agreement that shows he was lying all along.
Maraxus
The NPT is not just between US and Iran but international and Iran never officially left this in order to not alienate other trade partners. They probably started cheating on it but you can't really blame them for that, since the only carrot in this treaty is, that other local powers also have no nuclear weapons (which is wrong, Israel has got them them) and the few nations that have them act as arbiters of peace (which is also wrong, US and Russia are in a new Imperial age).
CabooseDM
I wouldn't worry, isreal will violate the treaty
yellowgage
Don't worry! It's MUCH worse than that.
The Obama deal (JCPOA) had strict caps on enrichment percentage and quantities that went much further than the NPT. Plus the monitoring was far more robust and more rigid.
Iran's been asserting their right to enrich since Trump ripped up the deal. This just puts them back on the path they were on 3 months ago.
CaldariBob
Surprise!
khora
Israel and others have said Iran was x months from obtaining a nuclear weapon, but Trump tore up the agreement years ago, showing Iran wasn't trying to go all the way to nuclear weapon.
JesaraB
Not "and others" just Israel, no other national intelligence agency in the world ever came to the conclusion that they were making progress towards weaponization, including our own, and Especially not the repeated UN checks and inspection teams.
neptix
Iran doesn't want the bomb, because then Israel would use theirs. Iran wants to get paid to not build a bomb.
PFMAz
I would also like to be paid to not do stuff.
There's all kinds of stuff I wouldn't do for money.
MrStealUrMeme
Man... I think your on to something
00110001001110010011100000110100
Now that is a war lost.
bourbonandbaddecisions
It was lost the min they agreed to it.
awkungen42
He made his money by "placing bets" and now he's passing the bill along to the American people. He made hundreds of millions personally and now we get to pay for it by giving 300 billion to people who are going to use it to oppress and kill women and dissenters in the area. Just a fucking clown show all around.
SpamYarBlockers
But guess whose friends’ companies will get the 300 billion in no bid contracts? With healthy kickbacks of course
SayonaraSally
Lost by who? By America, yes.
By Trump, no. Who do you think is going to get that $300 billion dollars in construction money to re-build?
MrStealUrMeme
"Trump surrenders" is what every major headline should be Tuesday
EvilOne666
True, however he would throw a tantrum, and start lobbing bombs again to show how big and strong he is
Sticklebrickk
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Neanderthalersutopiaphilandrousanteatersotherbrother
But another war ended by diaperdon
hotaru251
one that wont ever pass. Israel won't stop.
will be hilarious to see if Israel not allowing the war to stop with USA would be what breaks Israel's chokehold on US politics as Trump desperately wants this war over asap as its his anchor he cant escape and bibi refuses to agree to the end of war.
Anaphriel
What does he care? It isn't his money.
Apeofdeath
What wars have we won since WW2?
hotaru251
i we didnt even really win WW2. we joined it near end and even then fascism and nazi infected the country anyways.
TheMilliner
None, really. Not since the pacific anyway. Vietnam? Nope. Korea? Not even close. Gulf Wars? America won a single battle, said “we won the war” then had a 20 year forever war they claim is actually three separate wars. Panama and Grenada? Nope, their CIA replacement governments turned on America immediately even though operational victory was initially secured. Afghanistan? Another 20 year forever war that ended with such overwhelming Taliban victory that they now run the country.
DragonThunderUndertaking
I mean, we beat Saddam, the entire region was literally on fire after the fact so I'm not sure how much of a win you can actually count that as.
Apeofdeath
I think WW2 was cheaper
vonHoopla
Iirc America has a great track record... But only when the goal is destabilising a region. If chaos and instability and easily corruptible regimes that will take your dirty money to exploit their own ppl are what you want, the US is your man. If chaos and instability are NOT what you want, too bad, cos US is the modern Zeus and they are gonna stick their proverbial duck in it anyway.
Apeofdeath
What was our goal there, first it was weapons of mass destruction, then it was find Saddam, then it was rebuild the stuff we broke, then it was stop the Fallujah rebellion, then it was try to sneak away