"in the Zen district" -- experience tells me that it's not just a wacky regional thing. Let's look it up. Ah, ZEN is actually an acronym, and it's a massive slum run by a mafia because the government has always halfassed its management. (actually there are two ZEN districts, and 1's arguably doing better than 2, but the article doesn't mention which it is)
Lmao her social media post. She refused to vaccinate her child and then blamed the doctors for not magically curing her child in the ER. She killed her child and still views herself as the victim.
If she murdered her child by refusing the vaccine, that means that antivaxx parents of non-dead non-vaccinated children should be indicted for attempted murder, right?
Jeez, safe for years, discount science. This is cut and dry. People worry about killing babies before birth, what about after birth? These vaccines have been around safe and effective before the parents are born. Autism is caused by GENETICS
This is one of the main talking points people like Destiny and Dean talk about regarding Republican logic these days. Basically, to Republicans, the child is sacred and special.... until it's born. Then it's okay to be attracted to them, groom them, not vaccinate them, dehumanize them, then hide behind their DDS (Democrat Derangement Syndrome) by saying Democrats are the real problem despite all fault leading back to Republican-born policies and logic.
nice to have reminders that this stupidity isnt only in America, sure its great there are consequences for it elsewhere, but also a dark reminder the rest of the world is just a Regan or two away from becoming what we have..
I have autism and my kids are on different parts of the spectrum too. The stigma around autism is so fucking bad that people would rather run the risks of their children dying from something easily preventable than have a child be “not normal”. I’ve even had PSYCHIATRISTS refuse to say the word autism like it’s some kind of curse and just saying it will make them catch it, makes it real hard to keep my calm.
I barely take any comfort in the parents being punished after their child has already died. It's too fucking late. Maybe other anti vac parents will think twice, now.
Well if this dumb bitch gets some jail time it might put a dent in their convictions... these parents usually have zero consequences for their dumbfuckery. Social media makes it worse as all the world's village idiots pat them on the back and reinforce their stupidity.
My best friend’s ex wife was full anti-vax and got full custody of their son. She remarried and had more kids. Friend’s son got sick, she refused to get him treated and he died at 14yo. We never learned about the death until 3 months later, when authorities were involved. I 1000% believe she killed her own kid via “anti-vax” to spite my friend. And she’ll get to be the victim.
Diphteria is a non-thing by now. In principle. Because we have shots. Her then blaming doctors is absolutely not ok. Yes, diphteria still occurs a couple of 10 cases per year in larger countries of the global north, but to not vaccinate your kid is simply negligence. And she needs to be judged, both by whomever she doesn't want to get judged by, and by courts.
The "freedom" argument bugs me so much (akin to how much "parental rights" pisses me off). The children have rights, and as a parent you have a duty to protect your children to serve that end. Like when that vegan health food couple killed their baby trying to feed it on a diet of soy milk. It's a failure of your duties as a parent to refuse vaccination, not "freedom". You aren't "free" to starve your child, or any number of awful things these people often propose.
Honestly probably the case for some conservative Christian wives; those that are aware being beaten and raped ("submitting to your husband") maybe isn't so good.
But it's so unreliable. There's a reason you stick to the traditional arsenic in the coffee. You can't just wait around and HOPE the guy gets the virus. And, it takes a lot longer to work, which means more time having to put up with the 'submitting'.
Hold on. Which one had the almond taste again? Wasn't that arsenic? Or was it cyanide? Or was it something else entirely and I'm way off base with my humorous counterargument?
Diphtheria is one of the more horrible ways to die: slowly drowning/suffocating. There's no reason anybody should ever get sick with diphtheria nowadays. Please get your shots (boosters required every 10 years).
Yes. They're called DPT or Tdap vaccines. All 3 are very effective against these possibly fatal diseases/infections. Highly recommended. While you're speaking with your provider, please ask about an MMR or measles booster or vax- you got this as an infant most likely, but there are better jabs available now. This one saves you & possibly others from potentially fatal disease. Might as well throw in flu & covid vaxes for this year too. I got both of those the same day, no problems at all. SURVIVE
Yeap. The DPT (or TDaP) vaccine is only good for 10 years. But the good news is, the combo vaccine protects you from diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), and tetanus all at once!
Oooh that's what the D stands for, I had forgotten. I was a few years late on it last time, I was told I should get it on a multiple if 5 year to make it easy to remember when I need to get the booster
IAmGORT
Good I hope they get a sentence that’s comparable to manslaughter
LifeIsADanceOfMinds
It seems Darwin might help out Humanity, to the suffering of the Children.
Corrodias
"in the Zen district" -- experience tells me that it's not just a wacky regional thing. Let's look it up. Ah, ZEN is actually an acronym, and it's a massive slum run by a mafia because the government has always halfassed its management. (actually there are two ZEN districts, and 1's arguably doing better than 2, but the article doesn't mention which it is)
cactusjuiceitsthequenchiest
I love that, even were it true, the chance of getting autism is considered to be somehow on par with a chance of dying smh
BoricuaMorena
Not really on par. They seem to prefer their child dead to autistic. If not they would vaccinate.
CE0485
TheCornBanana
Diptheria? The thing that Togo and Balto ran down alaska to bring antitoxin for?
astrangehop
Thanks for mentioning togo
MenloPart
The mask goes over the nose.
Svartsinn
Lmao her social media post. She refused to vaccinate her child and then blamed the doctors for not magically curing her child in the ER. She killed her child and still views herself as the victim.
Margrave9000
If she murdered her child by refusing the vaccine, that means that antivaxx parents of non-dead non-vaccinated children should be indicted for attempted murder, right?
Svartsinn
Yes! Great idea!
Sonicschilidogs
Shame that it's reactionary and not preventative. She should've been prosecuted long ago and that child given to a proper loving family.
shanasphone350
Jeez, safe for years, discount science. This is cut and dry. People worry about killing babies before birth, what about after birth? These vaccines have been around safe and effective before the parents are born. Autism is caused by GENETICS
legobumb
This is one of the main talking points people like Destiny and Dean talk about regarding Republican logic these days. Basically, to Republicans, the child is sacred and special.... until it's born. Then it's okay to be attracted to them, groom them, not vaccinate them, dehumanize them, then hide behind their DDS (Democrat Derangement Syndrome) by saying Democrats are the real problem despite all fault leading back to Republican-born policies and logic.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Now I want to see Child Protection laws like this here in the US!
LumpPump
nice to have reminders that this stupidity isnt only in America, sure its great there are consequences for it elsewhere, but also a dark reminder the rest of the world is just a Regan or two away from becoming what we have..
Margrave9000
I think the fact that the child had died really questions the efficacy of Italian child protection laws.
Proper, effective laws would have had her have her shots (ooooooh the beauty of the English language) and never get diphtheria.
Imadethisaccounttopost
Immunizations works better if you don't want to use shots.
2074red2074
Uh... right now that's probably gonna be mandatory bleach enemas and horse dewormer...
Banjosquirrel
I've never even heard of Diphtheria except the vaccine, go get your Per-Dip-Tet!
Fuck you Andy! 🖕🖕
joshuasplinth
Well, let’s certainly show them what causes long prison sentences!
ThighsocksandKnots
I have autism and my kids are on different parts of the spectrum too. The stigma around autism is so fucking bad that people would rather run the risks of their children dying from something easily preventable than have a child be “not normal”. I’ve even had PSYCHIATRISTS refuse to say the word autism like it’s some kind of curse and just saying it will make them catch it, makes it real hard to keep my calm.
Rips4w
I barely take any comfort in the parents being punished after their child has already died. It's too fucking late. Maybe other anti vac parents will think twice, now.
Of course they fucking won't.
ZoidbergIsGreat
Well if this dumb bitch gets some jail time it might put a dent in their convictions... these parents usually have zero consequences for their dumbfuckery. Social media makes it worse as all the world's village idiots pat them on the back and reinforce their stupidity.
quade
DimwitF
Hopefully also sterilized
Djkb6718
Infect the parents and let them die too.
420supercoolusername69
https://www.unionesarda.it/en/italy/baby-girl-dies-of-diphtheria-parents-under-investigation-cousin-also-tests-positive-but-is-vaccinated-and-doing-well-odx2dctl
DonL9
"Involuntary manslaughter by omission." Good. Go right past neglect.
But here we have inanely unqualified jabbering ballsacks in charge that think vitamins can prevent measles.
dixxienormus
First. a jolly good flogging in the town square, then prosecute them.
conklin5
Ya gotta get his diptet.
Sebastopol140
And the stupid murderer mom has the nerve to whine about doctors.
iamahorriblemonsterwhodeservesdeath
Not taking responsibility for your actions is very on-brand for conservatives.
chatawillybilly
When her ignorance cannot face truthful facts she plays victim by blaming doctors.
empire161
My best friend’s ex wife was full anti-vax and got full custody of their son. She remarried and had more kids. Friend’s son got sick, she refused to get him treated and he died at 14yo. We never learned about the death until 3 months later, when authorities were involved. I 1000% believe she killed her own kid via “anti-vax” to spite my friend. And she’ll get to be the victim.
CrimeSceneShoe
Kinds bugs me that the supposed medical person in the photo is dick nosing.
stronomer
Diphteria is a non-thing by now. In principle. Because we have shots. Her then blaming doctors is absolutely not ok. Yes, diphteria still occurs a couple of 10 cases per year in larger countries of the global north, but to not vaccinate your kid is simply negligence. And she needs to be judged, both by whomever she doesn't want to get judged by, and by courts.
Cebrail
Fuck the parents, to jail for life with the murderes
SJBSavageInk
I wish they'd do that in the US. We're about to have a measles outbreak because of those morons
EMHPicardo
nclu
The "freedom" argument bugs me so much (akin to how much "parental rights" pisses me off). The children have rights, and as a parent you have a duty to protect your children to serve that end. Like when that vegan health food couple killed their baby trying to feed it on a diet of soy milk. It's a failure of your duties as a parent to refuse vaccination, not "freedom". You aren't "free" to starve your child, or any number of awful things these people often propose.
guitarfourtysix
badexampleforagrownup
oh my god.....I woke the dog
EMHPicardo
Emjayen
Honestly probably the case for some conservative Christian wives; those that are aware being beaten and raped ("submitting to your husband") maybe isn't so good.
yeahhedugit
It was God's will! We can't be happy unless we're miserable all the time, right? Right?
DukeDarkwood
But it's so unreliable. There's a reason you stick to the traditional arsenic in the coffee. You can't just wait around and HOPE the guy gets the virus. And, it takes a lot longer to work, which means more time having to put up with the 'submitting'.
Emjayen
Arsenic is a bit more than a give away. Egging on your obstinate (and probably unhealthy/obese) husband is not a bad bet.
DukeDarkwood
Hold on. Which one had the almond taste again? Wasn't that arsenic? Or was it cyanide? Or was it something else entirely and I'm way off base with my humorous counterargument?
BiomechPhoenix
It was cyanide but it was bitter almonds specifically. They're bitter because of the cyanide in them
diezl97
Diphtheria is one of the more horrible ways to die: slowly drowning/suffocating. There's no reason anybody should ever get sick with diphtheria nowadays. Please get your shots (boosters required every 10 years).
cosonfused
i haven't had a booster ever I think.
AntaNce
Maybe you have. It's a combo shot for tetanus, diphtheria, & pertussis. If not, please see if you can get it. ALL of these are horrible- ALL
cosonfused
The tetanus rings a bell, but I'll take it up with my GP to see when it's due.
AntaNce
Yes. They're called DPT or Tdap vaccines. All 3 are very effective against these possibly fatal diseases/infections. Highly recommended. While you're speaking with your provider, please ask about an MMR or measles booster or vax- you got this as an infant most likely, but there are better jabs available now. This one saves you & possibly others from potentially fatal disease. Might as well throw in flu & covid vaxes for this year too. I got both of those the same day, no problems at all. SURVIVE
bamblebimble
Wait I need a diphtheria shot every 10 years?
TinyBadger101
Yeap. The DPT (or TDaP) vaccine is only good for 10 years. But the good news is, the combo vaccine protects you from diphtheria, pertussis (whooping cough), and tetanus all at once!
bamblebimble
Oooh that's what the D stands for, I had forgotten. I was a few years late on it last time, I was told I should get it on a multiple if 5 year to make it easy to remember when I need to get the booster
ExtraDrumSticks
5 years if you get a dirty cut, dog bite, etc.