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gerbilfury
And I'd be sitting 3 feet from it đ
yomammyboy
afambelafonte
If it's the best wood stove maybe don't put coal in it
SixFingersOnMyRightHand
Tragic schmelting accident
Jonnoatpeace
But....how? Coal?
jaakkopaakkonen
Lessons learned from winter military camps in Finland. Strawberry red=hot enough. Shape shifting starts=too hot
BaloneyBob
2cRaZy2TiReD
That boy ain't right
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
Is that just two old beer kegs welded together?
ChristopherHallett
Awwww she's cookin', bud! I bet your shed's nice and warm!
underfundedorgan23
djl74
Let me show ya somethin!
StewedTomaters
I wonder how many young people who upvote Fire Marshal Bill have any clue who the character is/was...
Herfloness
Let me show you something!
cardinal29
tiptoeingthru
Frogblender
Title says wood stove. Corner of picture says coal. Keg stove glowing like the sun says it's coal also.
somnif
I wonder if that's the problem, putting non-wood fuel in a stove meant for wood.
somnif
(or, ya know, it's just a couple kegs stuck together and set on fire)
NeverDownvoteMelBrooks
Hypercolor is back, baby!
Dawall
they are though. https://geckohawaii.com/collections/gecko-hyperflash
slidewhistlesymphony
Glowing metal is glowing, meaning danger!
dudethisbetternotbetaken
Depending on the wood you're burning, you fire could reasonably get up to 1,000 degrees C. Especially if you're burning stuff like ironwood, hornbeam, or rock maple. That moron is going to burn down that building some day with that sort of stupidity.
zertmaster
FrozenMojo
Soon it will all be clean.....
Come2Japan
counciler05
with the oily rags and bag of coal nearby too. like something out of a fire safety pamphlet... yikes
ILikeFood2000
Someone soaked their wood in logs instead of soaking their logs in wood
hiphophypotenuse
ProxyPlayerHD
and it doubles as mood lighting!
fcib
Up to 11.
bladderinfection
This would be awesome to paint a bbq this way. That said, people, please do not paint your bbq.
Juttypants
That sumbitch throwin some BTUs!
ChelVanin
What does it taste like?
baconandmorebacon
I won't fall for vif again.
squigglebaketerraform
It tastes like burning.
LariCheltsy
Grandma
BeardyBomb
You're losing a lot of heat in the chimney, need a heat exchanger
Seggs
or even just a box fan to blow across the oven into the room
mikeatike
Looks like it's a house exchanger. Exchanging it for hot ashes, as Mr Floyd would say.
MaximusUltima
I donât think they need to worry about not having enough heat thereâŚ
CompletelyUniqueUsername
And a gasifier
Totalwombat
Thats a flu not a chimney.
IceWeaselX
A flue is part of a chimney.
Totalwombat
Nope
cloverleafbane
No bud it's not. Chimneys contain a flue and some may contain more than one but a chimney is not a flue and a flue is most definitely not a chimney.
FeChefImgur
In theory a wood fire shouldn't get hot enough to be able to melt steel, but if you give it the right conditions then there is a chance that it would. That is assuming the above is a wood fire and not coal (coal burns a lot hotter). The red/orange glow is fine. The yellow/white at the bottom indicates temp of around maybe 1000-1200C. Melting point of stainless is 1500C. Flying a bit close to the sun for me, but looks worse that it probably is.
nemocares
What? The theory (adiabatic flame temperature) tells us an air-breathing wood fire can reach nearly 2000°C ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adiabatic_flame_temperature#Common_flame_temperatures ). Iron melts at 1538°C and steel at less (the exact temperature depends on the steel's chemical composition).
FeChefImgur
That is combustion under ideal conditions. I was talking about a "wood fire" meaning what's in the picture, a bunch of wood stuck in a stove and lit. Now do a web search for "common temperature of wood fire" and tell me any results that are even close to suggesting 2000C. Yes you CAN get a wood fire up to that temp (blacksmithing is a great example) but your plain old wood fire isn't going to get that hot.
nemocares
So when you wrote "in theory" you meant "in practice".
Gover57
it shouldn't as a rule, but a wood fire can definitely make it glow, saw it once at a hunt camp ... one of the guys kept feeding the fire as his bed area was drafty and another guy kept closing the air intake because his bed was close to the fire and was too warm. The conditions were just right that it was glowing and everyone stayed up to make sure nothing nearby caught fire from the radiating heat. One guy lost a pair or boots that melted. Both those guys lost their fire privileges that week.
AllTheGoodOnesWereGone
How abouts if we blow pure oxygen in its general direction?
omgzwtfs
Think the bag next to it says "smokeless fuel" so I'm guessing charcoal. Would the insulating bricks and shielding be to keep extreme heat from spreading to anything touching that wall?
FeChefImgur
Yes, insulating bricks will stop the wall from heating up as well as helping to radiate the heat back into the room, which is the same reason it's got that curved plate behind it, to help radiate the heat back into the room. No point heating up the wall, which will in turn just heat up the outside environment. Given this looks like a tin shed/garage then it will be cold normally and pretty much once the fire is turned off will rapidly drop back to outside temperature.
OdinYggd
Wood absolutely CAN melt steel, it just requires the correct combination of fuel, air, and geometry. I'm a blacksmith, and I have done this.
FeChefImgur
Yep, which is why I said "in theory a wood fire shouldn't get hot enough to melt steel". You CAN make one hot enough to melt steel if you want to (as you allude to). Just putting some wood in a stove and letting it burn probably won't meet those conditions though.
poopgood
I think the white is just because the camera is over exposing
shakefu
Itâs mostly due to the camera having limited range - itâs dark, the red is very dim and relatively speaking the âyellowâ is blown out. Also might be an older type of digital camera that is sensitive to IR, increasing the âbrightnessâ. Otherwise the yellow portion would the âforge hotâ which means itâd be soft enough to deform fairly easily and this would be moments from disaster. Barrels are thin and that chimney is oversized pulling a large draft. But a barrel will glow from just a wood fire.
FeChefImgur
Very true, I didn't even think of camera distorting the colours, was mostly taking at "what I'm seeing is what is actually happening".
RabidNutria
This helps me understand what is happening so much. My experience as a sculpture student (with welding and bronze/iron casting), and my experience with wood stoves (Iâve lived in 3 houses mainly heated by would stoves over the last 15 years), is all telling me that the firebox is way too small to produce the heat (with wood) to turn a proper wood stove those colors. Itâs not 1/4 thick steel, and those colors arenât âtrueâ on the visible spectrum.
shakefu
Yeah you can see where the rim is doubled up thereâs no color at all. Itâs thin. The other hint itâs very brightened (long exposure maybe?) is the shadows are very low contrast despite there being only one main light source. The lower stove window does shed light - you can see it on the floor and the via beam shadow on the floor. We notice that despite the lower 1/4th being the âsameâ yellow, the beamâs shadow is relatively sharp. If it was all glowing that bright, the shadow would be soft. So /
shakefu
/ we know the yellow must be blown out overexposed, because the lower window is much brighter than the barrel itself despite the photo making them look identical.
shakefu
Lastly the blue and green items in the photo look very washed out, which can be the lighting or camera but more likely is post processing to adjust the hue/tint of the image and saturation to bring out the colors of the barrel which would otherwise be much less intense.
dustygamedev
Even if it doesn't melt isn't the structural integrity of the metal greatly compromised? I would be more concerned with it collapsing and starting a fire more than it melting.
nemocares
Yes. Metals as a rule weaken as they get hot, and a rough rule of thumb is that the strength is effectively zero when you've reached 80% of the absolute melting point (ie using Kelvin or Rankine, not Celcius or Fahrenheit). So for iron that'd be about 1450K (â1180°C), whereas steels can probably start going mushy as early as around 1100K (â830°C). If the stove here is as hot as it looks (digital photos aren't very reliable) then it may in part be over 1300°C.
FeChefImgur
Given that it's a beer keg and the walls on them are typically only 1.5mm thick steel, yes, I would tend to agree with you. It will be fine, right up until it's not fine and then you have a 1000C angry mess on the floor.
TheFakeCraigFerguson
I enjoy the descriptor of fire/melted slag/what have you as "An angry mess" thank you.
server1a
Please leave your 9/11 theories out of this.
Greymalum
Too much of the hot. Less hot, less.
rbudrick
DeadeicPrints
Alright I'll go grab some cold water and dump it on the barrel. That'll make it less hot.
Macewindow54
Broke my first fireplace doing that đ
Itslukus
How many have you broken?
Macewindow54
One, I never replaced it
Itslukus
Oh, sorry the wording to me implied that this was an occasional occurrence for you or you somethin
Suomijuusto89
It's not a sauna heater
NationalistCanadianMooseWarrior
I mean it would be if you dumped water on it
MaximusUltima
That will probably also make it less barrel.
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
I am once again asking to be able to favorite comments
GamermanRPGKing
Holy shit I can barely breathe I'm laughing so hard
somegmrgrl
right?!
TheGriffin
sturmhauke
If you too close, make you skin less skin too.
MrRareza
Also, possibly less life
ahorseelbowdeepinme
What is that chimney pipe? I could use something like that!
OdinYggd
Stainless steel chimney liner, sold for use in retrofitting fireplaces to accept inserts. HVAC supply places can usually get it.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Hmm, sounds expensive
champagneave
flexible exhaust pipe for trucks or heavy equipment
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Is that a thing?!?
SixSixxtySix
The finest dryer hose available.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Yeah, that has to be near melting if that's what it is, right?
tiptoeingthru
... kinda, uh... looks like plastic???
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I thought more like dryer exhaust
bamcobra
Most solid things will show plasticity at some temperature unless they combust or sublimate first.
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Semi-rigid ducting. If you intend to use it for something like this, don't. It's for cold to warm air, not "fires of Mount Doom."
ahorseelbowdeepinme
I need it for my rocket stove experiments but that can get pretty hot too
soniclettuce
you want chimney pipe to be smooth for airflow and not building up huge amounts of creosote that will start a fire and burn your house down... or so I've been told ÂŻ\_(ă)_/ÂŻ
ahorseelbowdeepinme
It's freestanding so no house-burning issues. The over all design is portable and collapsible so buildup isn't an issue. Still, seems like this isn't a solution
aThingWithTheStufAndTheJunk
Yeah, it's made out of aluminum, so it's not an ideal choice for high temperatures.
ahorseelbowdeepinme
Boo. Back to the drawing board
o0Tektite0o
Trustrup
Weirdly wood doesnât burn that hot, it burns around 600 C, but with right conditions can reach 1100 C, but that requires air.
PanNonOpticon
Doesn't work with digital cameras. Especially if that picture was taken with one missing IR-filter.
DdCno1
It would also look different depending on the film being used - and you can use filters with analog cameras as well.
lospaturno
It also depends from the metal heated.
CapitalNick
A lot of this has to do with the camera's exposure settings as well. I assume this chart is based on in-person observation and ambient lighting in the room.
whatbuttondoipush
Most kegs are aluminum, and that chart is for steel... soooooo....
lospaturno
aluminium drop liquid before turning red hot, IIRC
PosthumousExile
Maybe they're trying to smith some armour for the water wars đ¤ˇ
joshuasplinth
Didnât THE Planck guy come up with this? Or heated metal was where the idea for âquantaâ came from..
genbadger
Metals are not all the same. This chart looks like maybe steel. The color at a specfic temp depends on the electrons in the metal
JustSomePersonThere
My soldering iron hits 650°, how come I donât see the tip glowing dimly?
theskepticinme
Depending what youâre soldering and type of solder 650 may be too low.
gettingtwelveblueshellsinarow
In a dark room, your cellphone camera MIGHT be sensitive enough to pick up the infra red! Try it out.
JustSomePersonThere
Waaaaait, I just checked the manual and see thatâs 650° F, myyyy bad!
pritolus
Yeah I was wondering what you were soldering at 650C, at that point it's probably more like ineffective welding
The3rdwheel
this! just because it doesnt look hot.. it deff can be. my metal tech teacher told us this day one... he said " always assume whatever metal is laying on a table or in a vice is hot enough to melt your hands "
Ryebread91
That's actually a great tip.
prosper020
I tell people to assume everything in my blacksmith shop is both sharp and hot. Also the number of times Iâve grabbed metal that I know is hot but isnât glowing is too damn high. Get some fun burn patterns down your fingers/hand though. Weird digital lines that look kinda random until you start closing your hand.
Ryebread91
You should touch it just to make sure it's actually at 650. /S
The701
more like /sssssssssssss am i rite??
turdswindler9000