No, and neither can you, unless you can imaging having two feet of blubber around your entire body, living in the cold ocean, and being able to withstand 500 times higher pressure than we do? Of course not. You're not a whale. Questions like that are stupid and distort objective understanding of the world around us.
Humpback whales formerly were subjected to heavy commercial harvest, primarily for oil; a very small harvest for local use still occurs in the Lesser Antilles. Generally, people don't eat humpback whales.
Once upon a time there was a whale swimming along with his parents. A whaling ship came by, killed his mother and father, and hauled them back to shore. The whale never forgot this, even 20 years later when he had found a new pod and a mate, he never forgot that whaling vessel.
One day, the whale and his whale wife were swimming along the coast when the whale saw something on the surface of the water. It was a whaling ship, the very same whaling ship that had killed his own parents. >>>
The whale thrashed in anger, and called to his whale wife, "We must destroy this ship! We must avenge my family! We must protect our pod from these monsters!"
"But how?" asked the whale wife, "the hull is too strong, and they will kill us if we get too close."
"We will use our blowholes," said the whale, "by exhaling beneath the ship, we can fill the water with air and they will sink."
They took in as much air as they good, swam below the ship, and blew as hard as they could, forcing so much air into the water below the ship that as the bubbles rose, the ship fell. It listed portside, and sea water began rushing over the railings and filling the deck.
The men aboard scrambled, shouting as they ran. Attempts to bail were fruitless, and the whaling ship had taken in too much water to save. It began to sink, and the men abandoned ship. >>
I went on a charter fishing trip for salmon and we hit a whale as it was starting to surface from underneath us. Can definitely happen by accident, and we felt terrible about it.
A whale watching boat is nowhere near big enough to have done this. The boat I went on in June had jets, no propellers. In BC, the captain is legally required to shut down the engines if there is a whale within 30m.
Here's a small Minke whale we saw last week off of Newfoundland. I have no idea how big the propellers were, but the boat was a fair size. It might depend on how much zoom was used with the camera in the above picture.
I think about stuff like this all the time. Like our pet cats and dogs, if they got a toothache or a headache, something we can go to pain pills for, they have no real way of letting us know and even if they did, what could we do? We can't give them Tylenol or something. Vet trip for tooth problems obviously, but its once you know about it. How long are they crunching away on teeth that hurt and they don't know why but hope you can help them out.
If you don't have pain killers you tend to handle pain a bit better. My greatgran refused anesthetics at the dentist and I've seen my grandpa fall fully in spikey bushes (this was summer, just a speedo) and getting back out himself without a sound
While I understand the statement, I think the reason you are being downvoted is cause this isn't about toughening up, its about creatures we deem to be pets under our care which have little means of telling us that they are in pain and would prefer relief if it was available rather than tough it out.
My cat would let me know if he was hurting. Like when I accidentally stepped on his foot because he catted into me and I stumbled. He later limped over to me on three legs, hopped up on my couch, and whacked me in the face before angry plopping into my lap.... my cat was very expressive
If you pay attention to your pets, it's easy to tell when something is off because they act differently. They get slower, sleep more, aren't as eager for food. Favour one side over another. It's not hard to see when something is wrong.
Vet once told me that often people bring their cats to the vet because they had a "weird feeling". No signs of any pain or change in behavior they could explain. Just owner having a weird feeling. And often it was a tooth problem or something similar. Trust your gut.
We had a Chihuahua/Fox Terrier cross named Chico. White smooth-coat with a few brown accents. Over 12 years old when he passed away. He ate primarily soft hamburger and chicken. Only crunchy things were occasional dog biscuits. I would periodically see him pawing at his mouth. A vet finally told me that Chico probably had a toothache. Never even occurred to me. When he finally had his teeth addressed, he ended up with five left, out of 42! 1/?
He ended up with urinary issues from the bacterial transfer from his dental problems to his genitals when cleaning himself. Medication for that caused heart problems. Eventually, his lungs filled with fluid, and we had to put him down. Domino effect from lack of dental care. After that, I vowed to never let that happen again. Last dog and current one have (had) dental kibble, chlorhexidine chews, brushless toothpaste, chlorhexidine topical, tooth-brushing, and water additive for... 2/?
gingivitis/plaque/tartar, and teeth cleaning under anesthetic when necessary. Please note - non-anesthetic cleaning can't work properly, because a dog won't allow you to clean below their gum-line with sharp instruments. Humans know what's going on, and put up with the discomfort. Non-anesthetic just gives a false sense of security; meanwhile, the teeth are deteriorating below the gum-line, until they either fall out or require extraction, along with infection, etc.. 3/3
One day I noticed my cat's fang was broken and I was seriously torn up about it. The poor beast probably lost it ... and I have no idea how. I dunno if she needed to see a vet, or.. what to do. She didn't seem hurt or otherwise annoyed, but she had a broken fang, and it broke my heart that I never knew, noticed, or realized how long it'd been missing. Or if she was in pain.
Regular vet visits can catch a lot of issues (incl. dental), but also observing your pets & taking any changes seriously really helps. It could be behavior changes (like hiding/sleeping more, peeing where they shouldn't, reacting weird to pets in certain areas, etc.), weight/physical changes (like fur texture), loss of interest, not eating/drinking... If your pet is doing something different, maybe look into that. It could be benign, or maybe a subtle sign of a medical problem.
Though, "peeing where they shouldn't" isn't always a health issue. My dog has start to pee inside but only on cold and rainy days. And I can't fault it, it's the logical thing to do. Why go outside in the cold to pee when you can just stay inside where it's warm. And on days It's not cold or wet, goes outside no problem. My Dogs made a decision based on an accurate, logical assessment of the situation.
Sure, likewise with cats, they might not like the litterbox setup you have (bad location, bad litter texture, not cleaned often enough, bad shape/size of box, not a fan of lid on/off, etc.). But the important thing to know is that it CAN be a health issue, so you should look into it and figure out why they're doing that. If it ends up not being a health issue, great!
Yes, was just saying it so that people don't default to it as a health problem. But to seek out the actual reason. As a Vet bill can be costly just to find out your pet doesn't like to pee in the rain. But if you can't find a non health issue problem, then to the vets.
Yeah, I agree. That's why I said to look into it. I definitely didn't intend for that to mean to rush to the vet first thing, unless it seems really dramatic, like they won't eat or something. Then you should probably rush to the vet. I'll try different things out based on my understanding of my pet (or of their species in general), including just waiting it out for a day or so to see if it goes back to normal, and I'll do a web search (with a grain of salt). If no luck, it's time for the vet.
Constant vigilance, that's how you find out. Cats and dogs express pain to a degree, they can yelp or cry out. Prey animals, like our aging house rabbits, won't show any pain whatsoever until it's so unbearable for them that they hide, become lethargic, or stop eating/drinking. We watch their behavior and check them physically every day to look for symptoms, and even then sometimes it takes a vet visit to find the problem. Always keep their needs in mind and you'll do right by them, every time
Cats are predators but also prey animals. They hide pain as much as they can, just like rabbits. They will yelp to communicate, like if you step on them. If they hurt themselves, it'll probably be quiet.. All you said about rabbits is absolutely true of cats, too.
My experience of cats sounds like your description of rabbits. Outside of a sudden intense pain like stepping on their tail, a cat just doesn't tell you they're in pain until they're hiding and not eating/drinking.
Yeah, was going to say the same thing. Cats are solitary and territorial hunters (who occasionally have family groups) and would actively avoid being seen by other cats to avoid one of them taking advantage of their weakened state... like my cat growing up and my parents can when she was feeling ill and their cat took the opportunity to attack my cats tail before derping into a whale as it skittered away
combatkillaz
Bro needed a pilot whale
Carlislesamson
Poor thing must bled soooo much! It probably was also stalked and attacked by predators who could sense the blood
Timmysteve
why not "blade rudder"???
Sanivia
we need more orcas
pablozzyzzk
No, and neither can you, unless you can imaging having two feet of blubber around your entire body, living in the cold ocean, and being able to withstand 500 times higher pressure than we do? Of course not. You're not a whale. Questions like that are stupid and distort objective understanding of the world around us.
meconopsia
Oh? I thought it had been beef hooked for the whale oil.
yakboy
It is almost impossible to see a Manatee in Florida without prop scars
FrozenMojo
Two kind of people
daverbeans
He’s seen things you people wouldn’t believe.
joot
Damn, it’s horrible, though.
FireSolvesProblems
Do I see Bite Me on its tail?
Grimmrog
luckily it was mostly blubber, that saved it's Life
Blakeadelic
Imagine getting all those cuts…and having to live IN SALT WATER
ChimkenDumplin
My pleasure japan does not rely on the ribbedness of whales.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
UnapologeticTeaEnjoyer
Unfortunately, these are three different whales. Boat strikes are the leading cause of injury to humpbacks.
roxannesugarhill
Those wounds were in salt water. Poor bb
Zack194
-insert either a Harrison Ford or Ryan Gosling reference-
TheUsernameIWantIsNotAvailableAnymoar
woozle
cunninglinguist85
NuclearGradeIrony
"Pain Heals. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory Lasts Forever."
ErniesWidow
Join the Orcas. Start damaging the boats.
executivedisfunction
You don't seem to know over 1/3rd of human diet protein comes from fishing?
zimirken
I fear for what the ocean claims in place of what we take.
ErniesWidow
Humpback whales formerly were subjected to heavy commercial harvest, primarily for oil; a very small harvest for local use still occurs in the Lesser Antilles. Generally, people don't eat humpback whales.
thefreshjedi
They’re both right though, fuck whale hunters.
CanadianLadyMoose
Once upon a time there was a whale swimming along with his parents. A whaling ship came by, killed his mother and father, and hauled them back to shore. The whale never forgot this, even 20 years later when he had found a new pod and a mate, he never forgot that whaling vessel.
One day, the whale and his whale wife were swimming along the coast when the whale saw something on the surface of the water. It was a whaling ship, the very same whaling ship that had killed his own parents. >>>
CanadianLadyMoose
The whale thrashed in anger, and called to his whale wife, "We must destroy this ship! We must avenge my family! We must protect our pod from these monsters!"
"But how?" asked the whale wife, "the hull is too strong, and they will kill us if we get too close."
"We will use our blowholes," said the whale, "by exhaling beneath the ship, we can fill the water with air and they will sink."
The whale wife agreed, and they set to work. >>>
CanadianLadyMoose
They took in as much air as they good, swam below the ship, and blew as hard as they could, forcing so much air into the water below the ship that as the bubbles rose, the ship fell. It listed portside, and sea water began rushing over the railings and filling the deck.
The men aboard scrambled, shouting as they ran. Attempts to bail were fruitless, and the whaling ship had taken in too much water to save. It began to sink, and the men abandoned ship. >>
CanadianLadyMoose
"Look at those cowardly humans, trying to swim away and escape their doom. Kill them all!" shouted the whale.
"How shall we kill them?" Asked the whale wife.
"EAT THEM!!!" he cried.
"Woah woah woah," said the whale wife, "a blowjob is one thing, but I draw the line at swallowing seamen!"
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rightcalf
I went on a charter fishing trip for salmon and we hit a whale as it was starting to surface from underneath us. Can definitely happen by accident, and we felt terrible about it.
thedarkcanuck
FUCK YOU WHARE! FUCK YOU DARPHIN!
DwayneTheCrackJohnson
People oblivious of South Park downvoting you
Baggsy13
Could have been random, could have been whale watchers wanting to get closer.
jac1
A whale watching boat is nowhere near big enough to have done this. The boat I went on in June had jets, no propellers. In BC, the captain is legally required to shut down the engines if there is a whale within 30m.
Baggsy13
Here's a small Minke whale we saw last week off of Newfoundland. I have no idea how big the propellers were, but the boat was a fair size. It might depend on how much zoom was used with the camera in the above picture.

UltimateEnemyTemmie
I think about stuff like this all the time. Like our pet cats and dogs, if they got a toothache or a headache, something we can go to pain pills for, they have no real way of letting us know and even if they did, what could we do? We can't give them Tylenol or something. Vet trip for tooth problems obviously, but its once you know about it. How long are they crunching away on teeth that hurt and they don't know why but hope you can help them out.
JustSomePersonThere
That kinda shit keeps me up at night.
stewgru
No Tylenol. Aspirin is okay. My 50 lb dog can get about 350 mg aspirin for its pain. Just do the proportional math if your dog is smaller or bigger.
stewgru
Wait. Dogs aspirin. Very little for cats, if any.
TinyLiehon
If you don't have pain killers you tend to handle pain a bit better. My greatgran refused anesthetics at the dentist and I've seen my grandpa fall fully in spikey bushes (this was summer, just a speedo) and getting back out himself without a sound
UltimateEnemyTemmie
While I understand the statement, I think the reason you are being downvoted is cause this isn't about toughening up, its about creatures we deem to be pets under our care which have little means of telling us that they are in pain and would prefer relief if it was available rather than tough it out.
TinyLiehon
Thank you
BossVarriack
My cat would let me know if he was hurting. Like when I accidentally stepped on his foot because he catted into me and I stumbled. He later limped over to me on three legs, hopped up on my couch, and whacked me in the face before angry plopping into my lap.... my cat was very expressive
jetact12
Vets best. 1 am 1 pm
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Targe0
If you pay attention to your pets, it's easy to tell when something is off because they act differently. They get slower, sleep more, aren't as eager for food. Favour one side over another. It's not hard to see when something is wrong.
Neilikka
Vet once told me that often people bring their cats to the vet because they had a "weird feeling". No signs of any pain or change in behavior they could explain. Just owner having a weird feeling. And often it was a tooth problem or something similar. Trust your gut.
marcnoel1052
We had a Chihuahua/Fox Terrier cross named Chico. White smooth-coat with a few brown accents. Over 12 years old when he passed away. He ate primarily soft hamburger and chicken. Only crunchy things were occasional dog biscuits. I would periodically see him pawing at his mouth. A vet finally told me that Chico probably had a toothache. Never even occurred to me. When he finally had his teeth addressed, he ended up with five left, out of 42! 1/?
marcnoel1052
He ended up with urinary issues from the bacterial transfer from his dental problems to his genitals when cleaning himself. Medication for that caused heart problems. Eventually, his lungs filled with fluid, and we had to put him down. Domino effect from lack of dental care. After that, I vowed to never let that happen again. Last dog and current one have (had) dental kibble, chlorhexidine chews, brushless toothpaste, chlorhexidine topical, tooth-brushing, and water additive for... 2/?
marcnoel1052
gingivitis/plaque/tartar, and teeth cleaning under anesthetic when necessary. Please note - non-anesthetic cleaning can't work properly, because a dog won't allow you to clean below their gum-line with sharp instruments. Humans know what's going on, and put up with the discomfort. Non-anesthetic just gives a false sense of security; meanwhile, the teeth are deteriorating below the gum-line, until they either fall out or require extraction, along with infection, etc.. 3/3
kamenhokage
One day I noticed my cat's fang was broken and I was seriously torn up about it. The poor beast probably lost it ... and I have no idea how. I dunno if she needed to see a vet, or.. what to do. She didn't seem hurt or otherwise annoyed, but she had a broken fang, and it broke my heart that I never knew, noticed, or realized how long it'd been missing. Or if she was in pain.
MissNY
https://youtube.com/shorts/6xFdOUNy0kI?si=sIABO46rt2-Xl1-p
Salticido
Regular vet visits can catch a lot of issues (incl. dental), but also observing your pets & taking any changes seriously really helps. It could be behavior changes (like hiding/sleeping more, peeing where they shouldn't, reacting weird to pets in certain areas, etc.), weight/physical changes (like fur texture), loss of interest, not eating/drinking... If your pet is doing something different, maybe look into that. It could be benign, or maybe a subtle sign of a medical problem.
Targe0
Though, "peeing where they shouldn't" isn't always a health issue. My dog has start to pee inside but only on cold and rainy days. And I can't fault it, it's the logical thing to do. Why go outside in the cold to pee when you can just stay inside where it's warm. And on days It's not cold or wet, goes outside no problem. My Dogs made a decision based on an accurate, logical assessment of the situation.
Salticido
Sure, likewise with cats, they might not like the litterbox setup you have (bad location, bad litter texture, not cleaned often enough, bad shape/size of box, not a fan of lid on/off, etc.). But the important thing to know is that it CAN be a health issue, so you should look into it and figure out why they're doing that. If it ends up not being a health issue, great!
Targe0
Yes, was just saying it so that people don't default to it as a health problem. But to seek out the actual reason. As a Vet bill can be costly just to find out your pet doesn't like to pee in the rain. But if you can't find a non health issue problem, then to the vets.
Salticido
Yeah, I agree. That's why I said to look into it. I definitely didn't intend for that to mean to rush to the vet first thing, unless it seems really dramatic, like they won't eat or something. Then you should probably rush to the vet. I'll try different things out based on my understanding of my pet (or of their species in general), including just waiting it out for a day or so to see if it goes back to normal, and I'll do a web search (with a grain of salt). If no luck, it's time for the vet.
mistermiggs
Constant vigilance, that's how you find out. Cats and dogs express pain to a degree, they can yelp or cry out. Prey animals, like our aging house rabbits, won't show any pain whatsoever until it's so unbearable for them that they hide, become lethargic, or stop eating/drinking. We watch their behavior and check them physically every day to look for symptoms, and even then sometimes it takes a vet visit to find the problem. Always keep their needs in mind and you'll do right by them, every time
JustSomePersonThere
Cooooorrect!
AllTheKitties
Cats are predators but also prey animals. They hide pain as much as they can, just like rabbits. They will yelp to communicate, like if you step on them. If they hurt themselves, it'll probably be quiet.. All you said about rabbits is absolutely true of cats, too.
Salticido
My experience of cats sounds like your description of rabbits. Outside of a sudden intense pain like stepping on their tail, a cat just doesn't tell you they're in pain until they're hiding and not eating/drinking.
BossVarriack
Yeah, was going to say the same thing. Cats are solitary and territorial hunters (who occasionally have family groups) and would actively avoid being seen by other cats to avoid one of them taking advantage of their weakened state... like my cat growing up and my parents can when she was feeling ill and their cat took the opportunity to attack my cats tail before derping into a whale as it skittered away
AllTheKitties
Cats are social animals, but solitary hunters. Most of them live in family groups. Cat colonies are extremely common.
Cats hide their pain to be safe from larger predators.
BossVarriack
Yes... As I said...