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Killer Timing
I've been at this place for over two years, doing work miles above my position. My boss and his boss both agreed that I deserved a hell of a lot more than what I was getting, and we've been discussing how to make it happen. Three days later, the company announces major personnel cuts. We run a very lean team, so we figured we were all safe, but we were proved wrong there. I was the only one cut.
While I'm happy to cut and run come the end of January, the circumstances hurt.
(To note: I don't believe I'm being laid off because I asked for a raise. I'm just a creature of bad timing)
imlexluthor
Creature of bad timing
Pynktacos
And this is why I never do more than what is required of me at work. Work smarter, not harder
RogueMachinae
I'm guessing someone decided you were too much money to keep around.
pointystick
From what I've heard, job-hopping is the fastest way to get a raise. Get referrals and use your contacts!
Dehaka
"... doing work miles above my position" So many people think that's gonna help them in their career. :/
cottageculture
Id blame the boss. Moneys gotta cone fron somewere. You get canned he gets $ and the company saves $
crazyhornedlizardlady
Ya know... For how great the economy is... I've been hearing this story a lot.
TioBala
Well, at least you're getting laid. What does 'off' mean?
shinagami091
If you’re doing work miles above your pay grade and they laid you off once you asked for a raise, it shows they were just abusing you.
Forgotmyoldaccountbutohwell
Hey, it's probably for the best. If you're not getting paid fairly for the work you do, you'd be better off elsewhere.
ender00000
Just remember, when they call you back because everything is falling apart, $300/hour, 4 hours minimum paid up front.
songbringer
I see a lot of people get bent out of shape over this sort of thing. Why do you seem so calm?
OnlyQuotationMarkModelsQuotationMark
No @OP. Companies just don't cut for no reason. The #1 reason is always costs and that is mostly the company's fault. You may have been cut
OnlyQuotationMarkModelsQuotationMark
Because there wasn't any money to provide for the increase they were trying to set you up. & that your worth was too high of a price to pay.
ImAPenguin13
I never said there was no reason. The company is cutting 10% of the US employees, myself being one of them, because of dropping profits
kwspare021
well as long as you believe...
belovedlover
I mean if you did such a splendid job, you should be getting really good recommendations from your boss and boss-of-boss.
ImAPenguin13
I am getting recommendations
LawnPygmy
You were laid off because you asked for a raise.
LawnPygmy
Don't make the mistake of thinking it's not personal. Don't make the mistake of thinking you did something wrong.
exponentiallymusical
It's not bad timing. The higher ups just don't want to pay you what you're owed. They'd rather swindle someone new who won't have (1/2)
exponentiallymusical
the stones to ask for more money.
ImAPenguin13
they aren't refilling my position. All of my duties are being integrated into the team I was in
LawnPygmy
Which means even more savings on their part since they can just force your coworkers to do what you did instead without paying them more.
obamabeenbowlin
Exactly. Which is what my company is doing now. We got triple the work when a few left. Looking for a new job now.
ImAPenguin13
I was about to inherit the work from a coworker that left, which would've tripled my work load. I don't have to worry about that any more.
finetoroastasimamarshmallow
Come to Canada, we’re running out of workers
EnduserisaJerk
Well guess you'll be spending some more time here on imgur
WyoScott
Victim not creature
blahblahblah360
I’ve been laid off twice. While it hurt at the time hindsight has shown me that layoffs are always a numbers game, not personal. (1/2)
blahblahblah360
Ie they lay off a percentage of staff and each team has to do that with little to no regard for personal performance or impact. (2/2)
TheOtherBagdad
This could be the path that gives you the raise you were asking for. Good luck.
thanatos777
You are such a fucking sucker. You're getting screwed with your pants on, and thanking them for it.
ImAPenguin13
I'm definitely a sucker getting fucked, but I don't know how I'm thanking them for it.
korbendaIIas
Brutal. Accurate. But brutal. Which might be needed by op. Higher ups always know. Hell, they probably knew while “prepping” his raise plan.
Doobiechance
This literally just happened to me as well, just before Christmas. Same talk of a raise, and deserving more. "Want us to feel like a family"
cuttysark
Things must be really tough to let you go given your level of performance.
flyinglunchbox
Or they just want more profits.
Nefel
A lot of the decision makers have no idea the value of an individual employee. When it comes to restructuring, we're all just ID numbers.
shadefang
This might just be the cynic talking, but throw on top that they might have been making noise...
grzyboslaw11
I had seen the ppl being defended from being laid off. It all depends on your project, your boss and company's direction of savings
Imacatflushingthetoilet
I think I get what they are doing. Get a new guy like you and scam them to overwork. When they realise it then scam a new one.
ImAPenguin13
They're eliminating my position entirely
starlord56
Ya they did that to me once, eliminated the chief engineer and replaced with a construction manager...was cheaper
therealbardman
How was it that your boss and your bosses boss had no awareness that a role in their team was being removed? Not normally how it works.
korbendaIIas
Yep. I’m confused by this post too. Not saying it’s fake or partially fake. Just doesn’t make much sense from a business standpoint.
ImAPenguin13
The decisions were made by our senior VPs and up. They made the calls. I don't know what they used to make these decisions
gpibambam
Especially in some startups, this can be a regular cycle where they create then permaclose a role. Hang in there man. I've been laid off 1/2
gpibambam
And it's tough. File for unemployment, grab samples of your work and get the recommends mentioned. Q1 is a good time to find jobs. Good luck
elizaeast
So all the work you were doing doesn’t require a position dedicated to it?
ImAPenguin13
They're taking away the dedicated position, so my work is being integrated into the team I'm working in
thanatos777
Yeah, and in a month or two, they'll hire someone for a new position, titled "totally not your position."
ImAPenguin13
They usually make it about a year before reviving my position, assuming they don't cut the team down even more
fitlex
Yeah it'll be different in that it will have EVEN MORE additional responsibilities they won't tell the new guy about before getting the job
Shaows
Nope, this was a direct response to you asking for a raise, especially since you were the only one in the department that got cut. 1/2
Shaows
If they really wanted to save money they would have cut one or two of the lower performers.
ImAPenguin13
My entire position is being removed because they deemed (based on my job description, not my actual work) that it was unnecessary.
DropBearAttack
So basically a lack of communication between your bosses resulted in you getting fired. Incompetence all the way up it seems.
Yamioni7
Have to agree. They didn't just see the money could save now, they saw the money they would save in the future.
Shaows
Problem is you can't prove it, so you have no legal recourse.
thanatos777
Even if they could prove it, if they're in the US, they'd have no legal recourse; you can hella be terminated for asking for more money.
shinagami091
In some states you can’t be
cadburyegg
Get letters of recommendation from your bosses to help get you into the position they were Grooming you for, not the one you left.
SaphirasSexDoll
Ugh... "Grooming" in response to humans has a really bad connotation for me thanks to pedophiles.
Ulthirm
True this, my supervisor at the school I used to clean for has always given me an amazing review no matter the amount of times he gets
Ulthirm
Called by companies verifying the recommendation. (Which is a lot if you can't tell)
ShadyEsperanto
as someone who hires, letters of recommendations are a little weird past a certain age. just have them ready as references.
ImAPenguin13
Already on that. They still want to see me succeed, even if it's not in this company
wtforero
Nice bosses are rare and wonderful things, glad you have them
ColostomyBrag
Sound like GCs to me.
PirateRubberDuck
They sound nice. Write them a nice reference on LinkedIn or something like that. They may end up following you.
KnightOfPurgatory
Your bosses sound rather nice. Hopefully things work out for you my friend.
keystotheairlock
This is most heartening to read, and noticeably rare nowadays.
Zixtank
Good people.
LawnPygmy
If they wanted you to succeed they wouldn't have fired you. Now go be a threat to someone else's position.
ImAPenguin13
I'm not fired. 10% of our US employees were laid off. I was one of them
Cats2cats
Sometimes HR or Upper Mgmt gives names not “you choose”. If a raise was discussed doubt it’s coincidence.
Gen1Optimus
Sounds like that place is about to lose a valuable member. It'll be bittersweet when they're failing without you @OP
ImAPenguin13
That's how I've been trying to see it.