This is... Pretty tough to read.

Jul 28, 2019 2:52 PM

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I expected to feel outraged but after reading that I feel horrible for the mom and older brother.

7 years ago | Likes 55 Dislikes 3

Same. Based on the title you expect one situation but then you learn the full story and it’s just… hoo boy

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Assuming this is all true, euthanasia is more than a blessing for this kid and his family.

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

Fuck. What a difficult situation to go through. I feel for this person

7 years ago | Likes 109 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 3

Death sounds like it would be a blessing for her child. I'm well aware life matters but it doesn't like the child is alive. Im sad for both

7 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

Maybe death is better than non-life? Whats the point of keeping him alive if hes literally doing nothing?

7 years ago | Likes 485 Dislikes 5

I agree, all the situation breeds is resentment and poverty. And I say that with no malice; I would expect anyone to do the same for me.

7 years ago | Likes 63 Dislikes 0

Guilt. Most of us are raised and firmly believe in protecting innocent life. Kid didn't do this to himself. Such a tough situation.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Yeah but I would argue it's not a "kid" it's just the empty shell of one.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Easy to say from outside of the situation

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's definitely a kid. I believe the issue is if he has 'life'.

6 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 117 Dislikes 1

Honestly this is my biggest fear of becoming a parent, it would be better to have no children than one like this. Not to sound selfish but

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

This sounds like a literal hell of an existence

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

As someone who worked in a care facility this is pretty common and I really really understand her

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

Whoever originally posted this on reddit, if it is current, I hope you and you older boy have a good week.

7 years ago | Likes 110 Dislikes 2

Comment by @housevil says it's from June.

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

My fiance has already said she would abort her pregnancy if there are severe disabilities, it made me sad but she's right.

7 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 0

My cousin aborted a severely disabled fetus. They have 2 boys now they wouldn't have had otherwise. I think they made the right choice.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Over here you get to choose if you want a kid with down syndrome. And yeah people don't bat an eye if you say that you aborted one.

7 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 2

She knew he would have down Syndrome, it just wasn't cleare it would be so bad...

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Life can still be extremely tough with Downs. I think it's glamorized and sugar coated and "fetishized" to be honest.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Over where?

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

That's great but that isn't what he has. The mother chose to have a kid with down syndrome but it was a whole different disability

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

The various names she called him were extremely hard to read, but I can't imagine going through what she has gone through. She's just done.

7 years ago | Likes 91 Dislikes 2

I het why the names though. Dehumanize him and not make any connections so she doesnt regret it. Honestly, if i were in her shoe i would

7 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 2

End up doing the exact same thing.

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 1

Another reason no kids..I'm pretty sure this would happen to me and I'd have to pull all the plugs.

7 years ago | Likes 38 Dislikes 2

Same

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I have a friend who has a step son in this situation. I feel for his family and I often wonder why they don’t do the same.

7 years ago | Likes 623 Dislikes 9

Looked downed on by society. They should have done this at birth but they cant.

7 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 2

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Social stigma and personal guilt.

7 years ago | Likes 282 Dislikes 3

Mostly the social stigma. "You have to take care of x even if it destroys you."

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Personal guilt for sure. You can see in the post, she refers to him as different things to dehumanize him and make it an easier decision.

7 years ago | Likes 89 Dislikes 1

True true

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That lump of flesh is not a person though.

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

It is a person, they are still attached to her. That’s why this is difficult. I agree though w/ her and you. Not much of a person at all.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

If you're willing to listen to her story yes. Problem is some people will stop at/before "down's syndrome" to judge.

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

I’m a mom of 4 kids, and it was really hard to read this... The price is to high for the rest of the family, sorry to say, I support her:-((

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

This is why abortion should be legal worldwide. That poor kid will never have a proper life

7 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 3

Mum and older son deserve a life. I'm ethically 100% on mums side. If younger son were a different species we'd euthanize him.

7 years ago | Likes 71 Dislikes 4

That's not good ethical reasoning.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 24

He's on oxygen, tube fed and shows no reaction to anything. Without machines,m he would've peacefully passed away a long time ago. Who are 1

7 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 3

you protecting by keeping him 'alive'? 2

7 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

What does that have to do with treatment between species? Nothing. Use your own logic ffs.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 4

Quite a lot I'd argue. He's not really alive but is kept that way for no other reason than being human. Despite that everything that makes 1

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's a little weird to screencap people's post on /r/confessions and post them here for points, isn't it?

7 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 0

Lets give op the benefit of the doubt. They were trying to strike deep/thoughtful conversation & it worked

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

The day my vegitated state brother died was the saddest and happiest day of my life.

7 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 1

Damn dude. ?1

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

This is why human euthanasia should be allowed. If I had a fleshlump like that I wouldn't want it either

7 years ago | Likes 82 Dislikes 12

It's not so black and white, but I understand what you mean. I too approve of assisted euthanasia.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Yeah it's a tough subject. I'm very happy to have been able to help my kitty in this way, so I would want it too if I was suffering.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Are you serious? Who on earth could be possible able to draw the line on where this would be right and where not?

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 7

They have ethics committees for similar situations already.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

I dunno, I don't think it's ethical to let people or animals suffer in any way like this... euthanasia is about compassion for everyone

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Those who have a better understanding of the mind, body, science, and ethics than you would. Committees of doctors who understand the stakes

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

If I ever ended up being one, I'd want it ended ASAP, that's my main concern.

7 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Me too! Holy crap me too

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This. Hubby & I have an agreement, a nasty tumble will happen, down a long flight of stairs, or off a cliff while sightseeing. Do not want

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Give him to someone who is pro-life and see how quickly they'll change their perspective.

7 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 0

I think we both know those soapboxers are pro babies and not pro life. If they were, they'd be on the border helping the living.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

It's shit to call him names, but I get where she's coming from. Situations like this are a big reason I am hesitant about having a baby.

7 years ago | Likes 142 Dislikes 7

Why? I bet you anything her calling him names didn't hurt his feelings or have an effect on him at all.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Lot of anger and resentment, she'll probably regret saying it eventually. Stress and loss can screw someone up in the head. For a time.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah reading her calling him a potato and cucumber was hard to read but I wouldn't wish that situation on my worst enemy

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It May be part of her coping mechanism. It may help to separate her from her feelings for the boy and what she has to do.

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Exactly what I was thinking. In a hostage situation you do everything you can to humanize yourself to the captors. She, the exact opposite.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

We are one.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It seems harsh, but I think the reason for calling him names is to impress upon us that he is alive only in the technical sense, he's not

7 years ago | Likes 26 Dislikes 2

really a human being or a child. True, it was hard to read, but in some cases death is really a blessing. This is beyond 'special needs'.

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 1

He only had the bare minimum of autonomous functions.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I really think she has had to dehumanize him in her mind, blame him for many things, to be able to give him away.

7 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

That's a good point. Makes me sad.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Thats my exact thoughts. I feel for her

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

It is sad AF all around

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Yea, it’s one thing to agree it’s for the best to give up a child but the way she blames and dehumanizes the child is a bit over the top.

7 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 3

I felt a little uncomfortable when I read that as well. But I understand that her life has been ruined because of her son.

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Also, I don’t see why she wouldn’t tell her therapist about her feelings. Seems like something that needs to be addressed

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

She might be worried about the therapist trying to 'change her mind', regardless of how likely that really is.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's possible she's worried that it would mess up her chances of getting back the right to make medical decisions for him. At some point 1/?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

She was diagnosed with depression and at that point the state took away her right to make medical decisions for him and gave that power 2/?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Should she be entitled to make choices that affect the mother and older son so heavily? 5/5

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Necessary so that's what's happening. Personally, I think the MIL shod take a flying leap. She doesn't care for the kid every day so why 4/?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

This is why I'm pro abortion

7 years ago | Likes 293 Dislikes 21

In this situation I agree. Aborting because you "don't want the baby" which is otherwise completely healthy, is where I have issue.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 23

Hi there, I’m curious about your point of view. So would you advise the woman/couple use preventative measures or just not have sex?

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

Absolutely use preventative measures. It's cheap and there are plenty of actions an individual can take.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

But once you engage is vaginal sex, understand the possible consequences and be prepared to face them. Plan for the worst, hope for the best

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Thank you. I’ve been pro choice almost my entire life and I think the two sides have a lot more in common than some would think.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I appreciate hearing your POV. It sounds like you want women and men to have access to preventative measures just as much as I do

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It really doesn’t matter if you have issue with it. Not your organs or DNA? Then you don’t get to decide what others do with theirs.

7 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

Seeing as how individuals have opinions about various social and ethical issues, I'm voicing mine. And it matters to me.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Are you the one willing to sacrifice your own life, risk dying, destroy your finances, all for someone else’s life? How would you feel if ->

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

->you were forced to donate a kidney to someone you don’t even know so they’ll survive, all bc some random had an opinion that you should?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

As far as I'm concerned the issue is about defending those who are unable to defend themselves. That's why I hold this belief.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 2

As far as I'm concerned what makes human life worth a damn is not just unique DNA. It's consciousness. And the conscious one is the mom.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I believe life begins at conception. I believe it is better to err on the side of caution. Potentiality is what is important 1/

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

so, I'm guessing that you probably think that it's ok to go ahead and abort this kid, even at , say 4 years old?

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 74

Hell yeah brother

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Adopt the child or shut the fuck up.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

Can't answer for the poster above, but at 4 years it would be euthanasia seems like it's absolutely the moral, ethical, and kind thing to do

7 years ago | Likes 47 Dislikes 0

At that point it's euthanasia, and yes.

7 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 1

wow

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 37

Feel free to take on the responsibility to care for the child, then.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Its not abortion at 4 years old... but yes.,

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

The usual argument against abortion is life, but even pro-birthers would have a hard time arguing that this kid is alive by any measure.

7 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

A hard time logically argueing for its they absolutely tey as seen in several comments.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I doubt it. They seem to think a fetus is alive and it doesn't have a consciousness or autonomy either.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

In this case. Absolutely.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

You know how often those tests are wrong? Its a lot. Also I know some wonderful people with downs who have done more than you will.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Why should anyone get to kill them? They're not worth less than you

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

I dont think she knew how many problems the child would have.

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 1

Well she did kinda know. She was told it would have downs.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

She said she was excited. That she was prepared, because Downs kids can still have personality.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Down's people are still very much people. Not everybody is up to raising one, but she seemed to be. Can't compare to what she's describing.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Question is something like this detectable before the child is born? If so it would probably be better to terminate and try again right?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It is, but not in an ultrasound. The phenotype looks like Down's, the OP says, and the actual genetic screening wasn't covered for her.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I’m no expert, but my kids had a test very early in the pregnancy which would show a significant genetic abnormality. A choice was made here

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I have NF1. Any woman I conceive a child with and I may be faced with this exact decision. May case is about a 1/10. Some people can be 1/

7 years ago | Likes 39 Dislikes 2

What is NF1?

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

A gene mutation that causes a laundry list of cosmetic and neurological side effects varying in severity from case to case. I have a glioma

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

On my optic nerve, about 30 birth marks. A couple growths around my body. No fiagnosed developmental issues though, for which I'm thankful

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Very high on the autism spectrum, and have more severe cosmetic growths and marks, as well as nerve tumors. I've only ever had 1 that needed

7 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 2

Surgery. I would never want to risk having a child with it. Science has gotten to the stage it can be detected during pregnancy

7 years ago | Likes 32 Dislikes 2

Have you considered getting clipped yourself?

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

You are a good person, and there is always adoption.

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 1

I'm not saying it to be mean, but you should seriously considering getting a vasectomy and adopting instead of potentially forcing that 1/?

7 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 0

kind of decision on someone else / having a child with disabilities for what is "This is my genetic child" reasons. 2/2

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

Nah, that's pro eugenics. There was no way to tell that this would be that kid's life

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 19

Sadly, in this case it wouldn't have solved the problem since it was made clear she knew it would in the least have Downs and they 1/?

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 2

welcomed it. If anything, this would fall into legalized assisted suicide, which also should be a thing we have. 2/2

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

It's stories like this that make it harder to not believe in at least some level of eugenic screening. It's a slippery slope but (1

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

it has to be more humane to everyone from the victim and their family to society in general especially in severe cases like this. (2/2

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

It wouldn't help. For one, neither Down's nor what this kid has are inherited, they're random chromosomal abnormalities.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

you're pro abortion because of EXTREMELY rare circumstances like this one?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 20

There are EXTREMELY common circumstances that happen that make people pro abortion too.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I’m not op but I am, cuz extremely rare doesn’t seem fucking rare when it happens to u or someone u know. Imagine being forced to live this?

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 2

winning the lottery or getting struck by lightning doesn't seem rare when it happens to u

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

What's your point? Do lightning strike victims not matter to you because they're rare? Think we should disregard them because they're rare?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Is it murder to pull the plug? Like if a person only lives on tubes and machines can't they be taken off the machines?

7 years ago | Likes 1255 Dislikes 12

pulling the plug in this case would be salvation. send this kid home.

7 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

People put pets down for less. Chemically-assisted suicide should be 100% legal.

7 years ago | Likes 31 Dislikes 0

Pull the tubes and he lives. But in a caveman world he would never survive. Fact that he's destroying lives by being allowed to survive.

7 years ago | Likes 41 Dislikes 3

Should be enough to reason the abandonment.... If Lions were coming here would be left like a sick gazelle

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

If there's nothin in there, I don't think so.

7 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 1

It is liberating a family that lost its happines. I know one person that shares alot with OPs description of her "Son" and let me tell you 1

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

if my family/friends ever get into a state like this i promised i would kill them. It only lays around, doesnt react to anything and needs 2

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

a pain-pump to endure existing.... and i just now realized i didnt answer your question at all... I would call it relieve not murder. 3/3

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Pediatrician here: both ethically and legally, family can decide to withdraw medical treatments (tube feeds) in situations like this 1/

7 years ago | Likes 487 Dislikes 2

maybe its different in other countries but I thought you have to decide whats best for the patient, irrespective of the relatives preference

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

That’s true to a certain extent, but isn’t always cut and dry, unfortunately.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

If the patient can’t speak for themself it’s up to the family to decide what is considered a quality of life worth maintaining artificially

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Best reply on here.

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 1

And focus on comfort care/end of life. Practically, it might be hard for a parent to feel it’s okay to admit this to someone able 2/

7 years ago | Likes 398 Dislikes 0

Great info, thank you

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

To help make this actually happen. She should ask for a palliative care/hospice consult. They would be able to help make that transition. 3/

7 years ago | Likes 330 Dislikes 0

Since this is old, I’m guessing this has already been suggested on the actual thread. Fin

7 years ago | Likes 236 Dislikes 0

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7 years ago (deleted Jul 29, 2019 12:08 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

odd user name for a Pediatrician. Thanks for the info, though

7 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

In terminal settings, care can be withdrawn by family, or in some case by physicians if deemed to be "futile care", i.e. not recoverable.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Per the original thread, after she was hospitalized for depression, her MIL got medical proxy.

7 years ago | Likes 44 Dislikes 1

As an RT who has had to withdraw , thank you for educating. Despite our cultural awkwardness with death, there ARE worse things than death.

7 years ago | Likes 110 Dislikes 0

I definitely agree. Even more so after reading this.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

IM doc here. My least favorite thing is families of LTAC patients who continue aggressive everything despite no meaningful existence

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

LTAC?

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Long term acute care. Basically a nursing home for people that are usually trach/vent dependent and have pretty poor mental capacity

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Welcome to the euthanasia debate. It's morally and legally a mess and you can understand why dementia sufferers etc. have started going 1/

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

abroad to suicide clinics etc. - to preserve their dignity and die as themselves. In this case, it's a similar issue. Is he truly 'alive'?

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In the legal sense or in the ethical sense?

7 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 1

Ethically it wouldn't appear to be an issue. Tragic all the way around, anyway you slice it. But this isn't ethics, this is triage.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Ethically its mercy. If theres anything in there even deep on the inside stuck there it would be miserable and if there isn't it might as we

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

ll be a potted plant

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Both really.

7 years ago | Likes 21 Dislikes 0

For both, legal and ethics, is murder and not murder depending on where you're standing

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

The legal definition is “malice aforethought” the real question is the legal definition of alive.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

And the definitions of malice and human

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

yeah...

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

Yes

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 5

You are killing a person without their consent. So while it is murder, it's for the sake of the person on permanent life support

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 19

This would not be murder. Withdrawing life sustaining support in a person with no quality of life is a decision made by families every day.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

For someone unable to give consent, there is implied consent. There is no getting this child’s consent.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

In the US some group will stand behind it and accuse them of murder

7 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 1

They should be made to look after it.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Well Turn him over to the group and let them take care of

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

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7 years ago (deleted Jul 29, 2019 1:18 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Didnt know that but noted now

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Hang on they actually criminally prosecute people for attempting suicide? That ain't right.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Original thread, for those curious. From June if this year. >>

7 years ago | Likes 67 Dislikes 0

Whew, that picon guy sure did F up

7 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

Thank you

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Wow, that was a wild ride.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I’m in a very similar situation as you. I don’t blame you for putting him in a care facility, but you don’t have to call him degrading names

7 years ago | Likes 35 Dislikes 3

I'm sure it doesn't mind.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Especially as it’s not his fault.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

I’d be pretty resentful of anyone who stole nearly a decade of my life

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

The universe forges situations, not based off of logic, no concern for emotion, but because a chain of events leads to an outcome, and the

7 years ago | Likes 91 Dislikes 6

Nature is full of endless possibilities, and not all of them are miraculous.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Tell me about it, the universe created me, and honestly, I'm not impressed. Could have done MUCH better.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

universe feels no obligations to create situations we find amenable. I can not blame this person for their actions or feelings.

7 years ago | Likes 80 Dislikes 4

The universe in Chaos is Harmony itself

7 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

That’s such a cop out. “Everything happens for a reason” is such bs and patronizing, like they deserve this or will be better for it.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

I mean that in an absolute mechanical statistic sense, not in a "god had a plan" kind of sense. 2 gametes combined to create a fetal human

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

child and developed according to a myriad of entwined effects, stray photons from cosmic depths, random mismatch of bad DNA sequences, and

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

it's entirely likely that immeasurable quantum effects all combined to create this ultimate tragedy of creating an imperfect life form.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

*shit happens*. That was a long way of saying shit happens.

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

You know, I have to admit you've a darn good point there.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

She’s doing the right thing the kids nothing more then a brain dead lump in a chair with not sentience or awareness at all

7 years ago | Likes 768 Dislikes 21

Than

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 6

Or so we think.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I don’t get it why people dump this on others rather than finishing it. We know someone who had a kid in a coma for like 30+ years.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 13

They put him in care for the rest f his life & didn’t visit much from my understanding. It seems awfully selfish to me.

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 12

Even if my kid had some brain function I would toss him in the home.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 2

More important than that, she is doing what is right for her and her older son. We cannot judge her, because we are not her.

7 years ago | Likes 298 Dislikes 6

I only wish she had been able to do this while her husband was still alive

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Thank you. She’s put time and thought into her choice, and has chosen to do what she believes is best for what’s left of her family. Go her!

7 years ago | Likes 46 Dislikes 0

Yeah, it’s wrong to hate us cuz they ain’t us

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You can judge anyone. Can you not judge a Nazi unless you are them? Can you not judge a murderer?

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

No, you can’t. What the nazis did was sanctioned by a world respected government.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

What you can do is determine for yourself whether the action/inaction is justified in your mind, ♂️

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Can’t judge a murderer because you don’t know the circumstances of the crime.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Its a double edge sword situation. Etber decision isnt an easy one to make. I dont think shes being straight up evil or feel its a chore 1/

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

To keep him alive. We dont know her situation. Just sounds like she had a lot on her chest and needed to let it all out.

7 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

That and also she will have to care for him until the day she dies, that’s a LOT to commit to for a vegetable who has never been human

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I feel bad for people in those situations. Ether decision isnt an easy one to make. Her desicion isn't her being selfish ether.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Then he is a viable candidate for a position in the Trump Administration.

7 years ago | Likes 49 Dislikes 65

Fuck off.

7 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 3

Why do folks like you have to take every tragic story and turn it into an attack on your political opponents?

7 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 5

Because the world is still unjust

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Every story is an opportunity to bash your political opponent no matter what side. This is how it's done now

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

Opponent?!? I’ll have you know, Sir, that I am a recruiter for the Trump Administration. In Baltimore. And my job is a difficult one.

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 21

Oh, and also, try GETTING OVER YOURSELF.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 19

I'll get downvotes for this but that the way you put that gave me a chuckle.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

That kid deserves the privilege of death. If he can feel anything, he is most likely in pain.

7 years ago | Likes 3098 Dislikes 21

Yeah i feel at certain instances like this euthanasia should be allowed cause that is a terrible existence for all involved

7 years ago | Likes 54 Dislikes 1

All I could think about was "Locked In Syndrome."

7 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 2

If someone objects on religious grounds, why? He's never done wrong--"original sin" means if he could, he would, but he couldn't. Death>>

7 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 2

would free him; if there's an afterlife, he would finally be free and happy. Down's kids can enjoy life and be a blessing. This kid suffers.

7 years ago | Likes 23 Dislikes 1

Honestly i dont think he suffers, he does not seem capable of it. However i dont see the reason to keep him alive

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Omae wa mou shindeiru

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

I agree and as a parent I hope to God I am never in a situation like this bc I'm not sure I'm strong enough to either give up on a child or

7 years ago | Likes 66 Dislikes 1

Now THAT is A Name

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

make an attempt to stay strong and care for that child at home which would ruin me as well. Lose-lose situation no matter what.

7 years ago | Likes 27 Dislikes 0

Humanity has no problem 'humanely' ending an animals life's, but we force other humans to exist when it is clear that they shouldn't.

7 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

Sadly this is a big reason I worry about abortion care. Alot of places passing heartbeat bills have no clause for issues like this, you are

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

just stuck with this pregnancy to either keep the child, or pass it onto foster care to be someone elses burden. Some like this child just

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

There is clearly room for improvement on that front...

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

The kid isn’t even alive by any definition

7 years ago | Likes 115 Dislikes 9

Unless there is complex brain activity going on, its just human shaped lump of flesh

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Try telling them that in talabama

7 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

+1 for talabama

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

Or Florida in the case of Terri Schaivo if anyone is old enough to remember that clusterfuck.

7 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

I feel sorry for her and her family, but I'm thankful that the incident sparked a national discussion on the subject of vegetative states.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I remember family guy doing a song about her

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Or maybe it was South Park

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Reminds me of Jonny Got His Gun.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I feel like this to some degree but Thank God It's not that ba- GOG DAM IT WHY DID YOUR USERNAME HAVE TO BE THAT

7 years ago | Likes 342 Dislikes 12

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7 years ago (deleted Jan 27, 2020 6:59 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I Apologize

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

7 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

Oh boy, now I'm laughing at another sad post, again

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Grrr! Let's do this properly then. I lost the game.

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Ahh dam it! Why did you have to say that!?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

The game is just a mind virus designed to remind you that you're in a simulation. Wake up, buddy.

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Well the Game is infact Life meaning ending It would be Death, and Killing Myself would have Me disqualify. So naw I'll just keep Dreaming

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You deserve the privilege of death, asshole.

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 271

Why this?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Because of the username?

7 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Hey, captain cheerful. How about you shut up?

7 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 1

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7 years ago (deleted Jul 28, 2019 7:12 PM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

You sound like you do not know that death will come for all of us.

7 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Put yourself in that kid's body. If you retained any self awareness or concept of pain, would you want to be alive? Are you alive?

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

I'm not sure they're up to that level of thought experiment. But it is a good one and it really addresses the moral calculus of wilful death

7 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

This child already basically is dead. He knows nothing. He feels nothing. The only that happens if he dies is to release his family

7 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 0

He's basically dead only if you believe foids, you have no evidence of this other than the word of a woman, which is worth literally nothing

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 56

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7 years ago (deleted Jul 30, 2019 10:12 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

I’m pretty sure they aren’t trolling and are actually an incel, unfortunately.

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

We have no evidence any of this is even real, ya knob. Assuming it is factual, people are giving their opinions on what should happen.

7 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

This person is catatonic, missing neural centers to rectify that, and barring MASSIVE medical progress, always will be. Now, your turn.

7 years ago | Likes 86 Dislikes 0

What makes them an asshole for thinking someone who CANNOT INTERACT WITH THE WORLD might be better off not here, since they aren't anyway?

7 years ago | Likes 64 Dislikes 0

I lived with a potato like the one in the story. They harm everyone around them, I've watched people lose their jobs over these useless>

7 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 1

sacks of worthlessness because they felt as though they had to care for it when it's just a mount of resource consuming nothingness. When I>

7 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 1

Why? For suggesting someone with NO quality of life and NO hope for a better one should stop simply waiting to die?

7 years ago | Likes 72 Dislikes 1

What's more likely this foid throwing away a functional kids so she could fuck Chad and party or this kid actually being a vegetable?

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 78

Oh, so you're being a bitter fuck because of your own personal issues? Did you miss her having a second kid? NO quality of life? did you

7 years ago | Likes 45 Dislikes 0

Even read the story or did you just start it, form an opinion, and vomit vitriol into the public sphere because you're fucking miserable?

7 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Found the incel.

7 years ago | Likes 28 Dislikes 0

and even if it IS fake, the narrative is compelling and powerful enough to evoke very strong emotion, and you just want to shit on it.

7 years ago | Likes 19 Dislikes 0

Yes

7 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 34

I've met someone that had to make this decision and I support them as well after seeing what they had to deal with.

7 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Oh my gosh, a real life incel! I’ve only heard stories!

7 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 0

What the hell is wrong with you?

7 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In case you were wondering, women won't fuck you because even the vegetable kid has a better personality than you.

7 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0