Yup, and I'm sure as shit not holding my breath. That slippery fucker has way too many lawyers & sycophants for me to believe he'll face real jail time.
This doesn't mean anything, because he already has immunity by virtue of being rich and powerful in the USA, where we never punish the rich and powerful. The reason the court cases are moving so slowly is because nobody actually wants to punish him, they're stalling so he's either reelected or drops dead of old age before they have to set a precedent that the rich and powerful are subject to consequences.
Not quite moot, as they needed to go through this step to get it to the next level. I'm glad they didn't take any longer than this. And it offers some additional weight to the arguments against trump's dumb 'I can do whatever I want' permanent immunity ideas.
Yeah, the article says "If an appeal is filed, the case could ultimately go to the Supreme Court" instead of "WHEN an appeal is filed." I mean, I understand journalistic precision and all, but let's be honest: there's NO WAY Trump isn't going to appeal this.
Nope. This is a halted and somewhat false celebration right now. It’s setting a precedent that I hope will be followed. But until it is, I’m refraining from acknowledging this will change anything.
SCOTUS is going to fuck us over on the case about the 14th Amendment, not this one. This case is a no-brainer, and technically the Supremes don’t even need to agree to take it, since they’ve got more effective & less obviously insane weapons against democracy.
I know I’m probably wrong, but I thought they kicked it down to the appellate court anyway - not that it can’t be appealed back up to them, but they seem unwilling to make this decision.
I agree. Even all the Trumpers there would be stupid to take this as they can't say he is immune. If they did to be able to rule for him they might as well quit because he then a president can do anything they want including to them and their job becomes pointless. Best thing they can do is not take it, meaning it is settled.
Yeah, but his entire shtick is delay, delay, delay. The next step is to appeal to the entire DC Circuit Court of Appeals for an en banc review and then to SCOTUS
This is fucking stupid. It’s like asking if water is wet. Why the fuck would Nixon have needed a pardon if he was immune? This shit makes me angry. trump needs prison.
Pretty much. If one were in a position of literally zero responsibility, why not remove the legislative and judicial branches by force to ensure absolute power?
KlobberSaurus
OF FUCKING COURSE HE DOES NOT GODDAMET!
Jackpot7777777
But if they can prosecute one criminal for breaking laws that are in Title 18 of the US Code, they could go for ANY of us that break laws!!
ThatGuyFromJustSouthOfTheMiddleOfNowhere
PrinceOfWhales
Let's see if the 'strict originalists' of the SCOTUS decide that the cult is more important than the letter of the law.
kahooki
Datsinginguy
And in other news, water is wet. PROSECUTE THE ORANGE SHITLER!!!!
RoutemasterFlash
I'll celebrate when this fucker is in jail, or at the very least barred from running in November, if that's OK.
quade
That's so unfair! Why is the court system that applies to everyone else being so mean to him? Consequences of his actions are just mean!
literallymike
Sometimes it seems silly, but you still need the "/s"
IAmNotNSAsodonotbeparanoid
Put him in jail
Lassannn
Here are the three judges who just grabbed him by the pussy:
Gryphonosiris
MAGAt's calling them liberal deep staters in 3... 2... 1...
VibratingNipples
Today is a good day
GenshiV
Consequences for illegal actions?! How could people do that to poor poor donald trump!
Fudd0
Well, no actual consequences yet...
GenshiV
Yup, and I'm sure as shit not holding my breath. That slippery fucker has way too many lawyers & sycophants for me to believe he'll face real jail time.
digitalagriculture
This doesn't mean anything, because he already has immunity by virtue of being rich and powerful in the USA, where we never punish the rich and powerful. The reason the court cases are moving so slowly is because nobody actually wants to punish him, they're stalling so he's either reelected or drops dead of old age before they have to set a precedent that the rich and powerful are subject to consequences.
ValiantToast
Was this not proven during Watergate? And literally every other presidential scandal ever.
n0n53n53
he must be getting tired of all that winning
eugene51
A step in the right direction.
taez555
cosinewave
I'll take Shit Everyone Knew Already for 500 Alex.
fformulaa
Yeah, this was more of a how corrupt are the US courts
Broccoliman01
He does have immunity…immunity from intelligence.
bbrown1012
Ha,ha,ha. I hope he gets screwed in every court case.
FinancialRavioli
Good.
Micro2112
ShySapiosexual
GOOD.
eromitlab
Bam906
If you have to ask apparently it hasn't already been president. Fuck him arrest him
moxythree
Until the Supreme Court weighs in, this is a moot headline. Unfortunately.
whatsisname
Hopefully Chutkin puts his trial back on the schedule and proceeds in the interim instead of waiting until then.
Preincarnated
Yes and no. UNTIL they weigh in, this has legal authority and allows a lot of things to proceed unimpeded by this stupid claim.
homerinchinatown
Not quite moot, as they needed to go through this step to get it to the next level. I'm glad they didn't take any longer than this. And it offers some additional weight to the arguments against trump's dumb 'I can do whatever I want' permanent immunity ideas.
SteveMND
Yeah, the article says "If an appeal is filed, the case could ultimately go to the Supreme Court" instead of "WHEN an appeal is filed." I mean, I understand journalistic precision and all, but let's be honest: there's NO WAY Trump isn't going to appeal this.
moxythree
Nope. This is a halted and somewhat false celebration right now. It’s setting a precedent that I hope will be followed. But until it is, I’m refraining from acknowledging this will change anything.
FaecalJacksonPollock
Meh, give me a shout when SCOTUS rules on this case.
amb1021
They may just deny cert.
Mehtoes
WellIfIHaveTo
SCOTUS is going to fuck us over on the case about the 14th Amendment, not this one.
This case is a no-brainer, and technically the Supremes don’t even need to agree to take it, since they’ve got more effective & less obviously insane weapons against democracy.
Chasmann
SCOTUS is not to hear the case is my prediction.
sightlab
I know I’m probably wrong, but I thought they kicked it down to the appellate court anyway - not that it can’t be appealed back up to them, but they seem unwilling to make this decision.
FaecalJacksonPollock
That's fine too, but I'm holding off any celebration until that's confirmed.
goodtimehadbyall
I agree. Even all the Trumpers there would be stupid to take this as they can't say he is immune. If they did to be able to rule for him they might as well quit because he then a president can do anything they want including to them and their job becomes pointless. Best thing they can do is not take it, meaning it is settled.
Grenkak12
Yeah, but his entire shtick is delay, delay, delay. The next step is to appeal to the entire DC Circuit Court of Appeals for an en banc review and then to SCOTUS
amb1021
Which both courts can deny expeditiously if they wish. They don't have to write much to deny rehearing/cert.
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
This is fucking stupid. It’s like asking if water is wet. Why the fuck would Nixon have needed a pardon if he was immune? This shit makes me angry. trump needs prison.
Mikataki
Remember, water isn't wet if John Roberts says it isn't.
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Maybe, but if he rules in trumps favor, he has essentially removed his own testicles and the authority of the court.
Mikataki
Pretty much. If one were in a position of literally zero responsibility, why not remove the legislative and judicial branches by force to ensure absolute power?
tommyonodesign2
Nah. He needs a grave.
thisiswhyicanthaveanythingnice
Sure, UNDER the prison sounds good.
smegheadenergy
Water isn’t wet, it makes things wet :/
georgejimmydoodle
Doesn't it make itself wet?
Neurisko
Nobody knows, Particle Man
smegheadenergy
My mom does?
HeHeHebieJeebies
Time to find out if the supreme court wants to lose all their power to a dictatorship or rule against him.
digitalagriculture
Why would they lose all their power? They would be very useful in a dictatorship.
georgejimmydoodle
If the executive can do no wrong, and is thus, all powerful, then why have a branch of government that can serve as a check to his power?
digitalagriculture
Why would it be a check and not a rubber stamp?
georgejimmydoodle
even as a rubber stamp, SCOTUS is rendered powerless.
HootSloot
I doubt SCOTUS wants to be a rubber stamp.
digitalagriculture
If the premise is that we become a dictatorship, it doesn't matter what they "want".