Having an opinion is about liking ketchup or mustard. Being an evil shit is to think someone deserves to die because their skin colour or where they came from...
Fuck these people who've no fucking idea about the distinction... They're as evil as these Nazis...
Can someone help me understand why this is being called Political Violence? He was not a politician (yet), and I'm not sure he pushed any specific political policies. The guy was an activist for all kinds of hate speech and ideologies.
Shouldn't his death be more of a Hate Crime? Or a violation of his Civil Rights? I don't understand when hating people became a "political view."
I think the late great Sir Terry Pratchett summed it up best. Horribly misquoted but if you’re the sort of person who stands on the top of the mountain during a thunderstorm wearing copper armour shouting all gods are bastards..
We need to start saying more old time bullshit to these bad faith motherfuckers. "His mouth was writing checks his body couldn't cash. And you're doing it too." "Lay down with dogs, you're gonna get up with fleas." "He was going around throwing stones at glass houses. Then his house shattered." "Treat others as you want to be treated, and he wanted public executions." They deserve some generic shit. "Birds of a feather flock together, and fools rarely differ."
I'm so fucking sick of these "hE gOt kIlLeD foR hAviNG a diFfErenT oPinIon" rage bait arguments. He spent his life trying to turn young guys into radical right wing extremists and he was killed by a young radical right wing extremist because that's what extremists do. The entire right wing on this entire continent is spiraling out of control and blaming the damage on people who have just been trying to mind their own business this entire fucking goddamn time.
I believe no one SHOULD be shot for what they say. I believe this like I believe no one SHOLUD die from lack of healthcare. However that’s not the country we live in.
It's amazing to see in real-time how her brain goes "Hey! Remember this ridiculously bigoted thing he said? Stop wasting time talking to this disingenuous asshat!" :)
"An opinion". Go fuck yourself with that disingenuous shit. Tinyface Nothroat didn't "have an opinion" he regularly encouraged violence against people simply because they were different from him. And regularly encouraging violence WAS HIS JOB.
He’s closer to Goebbels than to Hitler. Kirk was the propagandist that convinced people human rights should be taken away from anyone who wasn’t a straight white male.
If you're just going to knowingly ask a stream of bad-faith questions, just fuck right the fuck off, especially when the only reason you're out there "just asking questions" in the first place is to promote yourself and profit off Kirk's death.
That ghoul isn't out there mourning the man, he's just using his death as a springboard for his own "brand", exactly like every other right-wing piece of shit gleefully pretending to weep over the guy's body.
No they can. They simply don't care. To them it's not a debate it's a game, and if you get mad, they win. They don't have any other goal than to "own the libs." They don't care about good or evil, right or wrong. They hate us. As long as we suffer, they're happy. That is neither an exaggeration or lie, it is simply the truth. Understanding this first is necessary preparation for any interaction you intend to have with a fascist.
Besides, several of his opinions were that people getting shot is fine and we shouldn't feel bad about it. Really, mocking his death is the best way to honor his legacy. Who are we to deny him that?
Stochastic terrorism refers to the use of the mass media to incite random, statistically predictable but individually unpredictable acts of violence against a target person or group, often through demonizing rhetoric. The violence is individual because the instigator does not target a specific perpetrator, but stochastic in the sense that the violence is statistically probable among a susceptible audience.
...just gonna go out on a limb here and say that if anyone is looking at a woman in a video on imgur and wondering if she's single, she's probably out of their league either way.
So one thing to keep in mind. Many of these people literally have not seen or heard of the horrible shit he's done. It just never gets shown to them, they see him saying family is important, that men need to find purpose, etc. but they never see him say that PoC and women should have rights stripped away, or that kids being shot is fine. Like legitimately have never seen it. Had that conversation last week. It's fucking nuts how much we're separated.
Some sure, maybe even most, but not all by a long shot. Do you really have a hard time believing that social media algorithms would show different groups totally different clips and videos and quotes?
I had to enlighten a coworker of mine about that stuff. We're german, living in germany, so naturally he didn't know. But boy was he mad about me not feeling anything bad about kirk kicking it. Prior to me explaining a few things.
Neednoggle
Love that "get outta here!" at the end
MioTaalas
Having an opinion is about liking ketchup or mustard. Being an evil shit is to think someone deserves to die because their skin colour or where they came from...
Fuck these people who've no fucking idea about the distinction... They're as evil as these Nazis...
southflhitnrun
Can someone help me understand why this is being called Political Violence? He was not a politician (yet), and I'm not sure he pushed any specific political policies. The guy was an activist for all kinds of hate speech and ideologies.
Shouldn't his death be more of a Hate Crime? Or a violation of his Civil Rights? I don't understand when hating people became a "political view."
MAN9000
Go girl!
crapybarra
Did i miss something? Who killed ol chunky kirk? Was it "for having an opinion?"
myfirstandlastpostever
I think the late great Sir Terry Pratchett summed it up best. Horribly misquoted but if you’re the sort of person who stands on the top of the mountain during a thunderstorm wearing copper armour shouting all gods are bastards..
awholelotofnothin
We need to start saying more old time bullshit to these bad faith motherfuckers. "His mouth was writing checks his body couldn't cash. And you're doing it too." "Lay down with dogs, you're gonna get up with fleas." "He was going around throwing stones at glass houses. Then his house shattered." "Treat others as you want to be treated, and he wanted public executions." They deserve some generic shit. "Birds of a feather flock together, and fools rarely differ."
zFUBARz
Oh shit, that golden rule one is great actually. Knew he just full on did it, but you're right, tying it to a known saying is eye catching.
doctorId
I'm so fucking sick of these "hE gOt kIlLeD foR hAviNG a diFfErenT oPinIon" rage bait arguments. He spent his life trying to turn young guys into radical right wing extremists and he was killed by a young radical right wing extremist because that's what extremists do. The entire right wing on this entire continent is spiraling out of control and blaming the damage on people who have just been trying to mind their own business this entire fucking goddamn time.
FaithAlone
I believe no one SHOULD be shot for what they say. I believe this like I believe no one SHOLUD die from lack of healthcare. However that’s not the country we live in.
egoAristippos
#1
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Cataleast
It's amazing to see in real-time how her brain goes "Hey! Remember this ridiculously bigoted thing he said? Stop wasting time talking to this disingenuous asshat!" :)
gnomedeplume
Hitler also wasn't in charge of a government when he had hateful opinions of marginalised people
until he wss
hwatL4bloopy
Wth I've seen this Erictastic comment with like two or three different profile pics Now
FTMCope
Muh heckin' marginalizationerinos!!!1 George Floyd was a much worse person than Charlie Kirk.
dontrike
Sure, if you're an idiot.
EchoPMIM
OwO what's this? Is the wittle baby sad that shrinking face guy popped a leak? Cope and seethe, manlet.
ThingsThatDontJustifyGenocide
George Floyd hurt less people than Charlie Kirk did.
EggEggHeSaidEgg
*Stannis Baratheon's eye twitches*
gnomedeplume
https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dGFwaGhtYzY0N21uMmI4ams0eWFnN3dobDh1MXV4ZXp5cWI4YjRkdCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/lzBY7pJFD7Op3MS8NH/200w.webp
Emjayen
-- brand new account of some loser.
pompoikpoik
she seems nice
masarian
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTY1YjkxZmJlbml5cTQzdjkxeHJqZzRuMDZodzNxeDJ5dWl3dGM4ejBvcDR6eW53cyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/y2i2oqWgzh5ioRp4Qa/200w.mp4
Dlaw25
"Hey guys, Adolf Hitler just had ideas and used his free speech. He never shot anyone himself. Should he deserve to die, hmm?" - This interviewer
SwiftyGuy
Hey… she’s pretty fucking awesome! :D
TheRedBaron8
The way you die does not redeem the way you lived.
rubypilgrim
I do not approve of this timeline.
SavageDrums
"An opinion". Go fuck yourself with that disingenuous shit. Tinyface Nothroat didn't "have an opinion" he regularly encouraged violence against people simply because they were different from him. And regularly encouraging violence WAS HIS JOB.
killergrooves85
He’s closer to Goebbels than to Hitler. Kirk was the propagandist that convinced people human rights should be taken away from anyone who wasn’t a straight white male.
SophieClockwise
"Killed for having an opinion." Fuck off.
If you're just going to knowingly ask a stream of bad-faith questions, just fuck right the fuck off, especially when the only reason you're out there "just asking questions" in the first place is to promote yourself and profit off Kirk's death.
That ghoul isn't out there mourning the man, he's just using his death as a springboard for his own "brand", exactly like every other right-wing piece of shit gleefully pretending to weep over the guy's body.
Dartfordian1
He may just be playing devil's advocate. Reporters do that.
foreverinchains
The far right only has bad-faith questions, because their entire worldview is based on hatred and bullshit.
newphonewhoodis
And they can not see it. Which is what makes explaining this to them both frustrating and almost impossible.
YouCanCallMeAnything
No they can. They simply don't care. To them it's not a debate it's a game, and if you get mad, they win. They don't have any other goal than to "own the libs." They don't care about good or evil, right or wrong. They hate us. As long as we suffer, they're happy. That is neither an exaggeration or lie, it is simply the truth. Understanding this first is necessary preparation for any interaction you intend to have with a fascist.
EchoPMIM
Besides, several of his opinions were that people getting shot is fine and we shouldn't feel bad about it. Really, mocking his death is the best way to honor his legacy. Who are we to deny him that?
lydecker17
blzrdphoto
If your opinion is that I deserve to die… then really it’s just self preservation.
literallymike
"Put himself in the arena by having and expressing those specific opinions."
gnomedeplume
He wasn't even killed for having an opinion, he was killed for being more popular than Nick Fuentes
HandoB4Javert
Shoutrr
and they you ask them "yeah, what opinion exactly ?" and watch them squirm
TanithRosenbaum
She's good. She knows how to use her brain and she knows how to talk and shut bigots and magas down too. She'll go places.
spazztastic
Charlie Kirk wasn't in charge of a government because the shooter said "inb4 you make this worse"
twoamartist
You go, girl!!!
TheRedBaron8
Stochastic terrorism refers to the use of the mass media to incite random, statistically predictable but individually unpredictable acts of violence against a target person or group, often through demonizing rhetoric. The violence is individual because the instigator does not target a specific perpetrator, but stochastic in the sense that the violence is statistically probable among a susceptible audience.
lydecker17
BenderSaysNeat
I like her
abidikgubidik
Gives me a tiny bit of hope for the future
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SomeFukinWizard
Really? Cause that stance and that passion seems extremely attractive and sane to me.
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SomeFukinWizard
Because I was late getting back from your moms house. I had to leave late because there was a line. Your father was at that back. By choice.
EchoPMIM
...just gonna go out on a limb here and say that if anyone is looking at a woman in a video on imgur and wondering if she's single, she's probably out of their league either way.
gnomedeplume
I think she's probably more focused on her education right now
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gnomedeplume
bitch I'm the life and the heart
TheFunGuyinOz
I love her.
I would be so proud if she were my daughter or my friend.
Smart, sassy and passionate.
More like her please,
adowntoearthkindofguy
People are trying so hard to sane wash Charlie Kirk, but it's not working, and we're all looking at these people as the sick weirdos they are.
MenloPart
It reminds me of this movie; a kid with problems accidentally dies and everyone pretends he had been nice and they had treated him well:
zFUBARz
So one thing to keep in mind. Many of these people literally have not seen or heard of the horrible shit he's done. It just never gets shown to them, they see him saying family is important, that men need to find purpose, etc. but they never see him say that PoC and women should have rights stripped away, or that kids being shot is fine. Like legitimately have never seen it. Had that conversation last week. It's fucking nuts how much we're separated.
Svartsinn
No one is separated. They have chosen racism. It was a choice.
zFUBARz
Some sure, maybe even most, but not all by a long shot. Do you really have a hard time believing that social media algorithms would show different groups totally different clips and videos and quotes?
minqapoc
I had to enlighten a coworker of mine about that stuff. We're german, living in germany, so naturally he didn't know. But boy was he mad about me not feeling anything bad about kirk kicking it. Prior to me explaining a few things.
adowntoearthkindofguy
To clarify, I'm talking about people who should know better like the mainstream media, political commentators and politicians.
zFUBARz
Absolutely accurate then